Why the secrecy?

Belibaste said:
In addition to this Mouravieff excerpt maybe a simple analogy can illustrate this "secrecy" thing.

Thanks, Belibaste. That is an excellent analogy. I can apply that to the reading frustration as well. I guess maybe part of the "Faith" aspect is having faith that I will understand more if I continue to work and work harder.
 
...The man who decides today to enter the track in search of the Way has, in principle, become another man; but in fact he remains as he was yesterday: weak, drowsy and pitiful. In this state, how can he overcome the resistance of the General Law and so finally reach the Way? It is impossible. To attain this aim, he must first accumulate strength. That is why we insist on the necessity of silent progress in esoteric work, so as not to provoke greater pressure from the General Law. This would quickly drain the new reserves of strength, which had been accumulated at the price of sustained efforts in the fight against this same law. One must therefore gain time and as much as possible delay the reaction of the General Law.

Because the Work requires a shift in the level of Being a certain secrecy is necessary. Even the knowledge one accumulates through study can not be transmuted to wisdom if the level of Being does not increase.

It seems to me that the the need for secrecy is not so much to protect sacred information from people who would not understand it in any case, but to protect the vessel that is carrying that information - the seeker on the path.

Given that The General Law will attack any and all who call attention to themselves, and in some cases in such a way that the "attacks" may not seem like attacks at all, but rewards in the guise of publicity, money, fame, praise, it is quite easy to become distracted and lose one's way. To lose one's way seems to me to lose the accumulated energies that one has begun to store while doing the Work.

In all the myths, Perseus for example, a hero has to travel beyond the boundaries of the familiar - and sometimes the known world - to bring back the gift that would free his kingdom. In Edith Hamilton's Mythology this comes about because Perseus has come to the tyrant Polydectus' betrothal to Perseus' unwilling mother Danae without a gift.

Each guest, as was customary, brought a gift for the bride-to-be except Perseus alone. He had nothing he could give. He was young and proud and keenly mortified. He stood up before them all and did exactly what the King had hoped he would do, declared that he would give him a present better than any there. He would go off and kill Medusa, and bring back her head as a gift.

As I see it, Perseus is a lot like each of us: he is alone, he had nothing he could give. He was young (in the Work),and proud and keenly mortified. He had to leave his home and set off on a journey.

There must have been something in Perseus to make the gods want to help him in his quest. (It didn't hurt that his mother was a princess and his father was Zeus). He was aided by Hermes and Athena, but only after he proved himself by setting off alone and traveling everywhere to find out where Medusa could be found.

Hermes is his guide, and he tells him that he must travel to lands beyond the known world where he will obtain the information he will need to find Medusa. The information would not come easily - Perseus had to pass a series of tests, the successful completion of one led to the next until he finally found Medusa and slew her.

It was only after that he had accomplished this, that he was able to return home (with a princess he met under unusual circumstances along the way), free the kingdom from the evil dictator, release his mother from the impending marriage and live happily ever after.

Perseus' story is, I think, a blueprint for the Way. He has nothing to give until he journeys, confronts his own despair, fears, and loneliness, and crystallizes his essence and resolve to carry out his Aim which frees his kingdom. Before his journey, he tells no one his plans, not even his mother, who would have, of course, tried to talk him out of it.

But he isn't able to accomplish this without the god's help. It's like Laura and the Cs. The Cs provide the clues, but Laura, Ark and QFS and the rest of us have to do all the work.
 
webglider said:
Even the knowledge one accumulates through study can not be transmuted to wisdom if the level of Being does not increase.

I notice silence about new spiritual experiences and spiritual insights increases the temperature of the crucible, as the vanity of the personality wants to claim credit and attract attention to its superiority and desirability. The strength of Being is increased as the desire of the proud personality is refused. This is the "invisible struggle" and a practical use for secrecy.
 
MrGullible said:
I would like to share more with my wife and brother especially.... I'm Frustrated because I care very deeply about them and the rest of the family and I want them to understand and open their eyes some....

There you are dealing with a common problem, our desire to do what we think is "best" for those we care about. While on the surface it seems to stem, simply and innocuously, from "love", if we follow through with that impulse it is in fact a violation of our loved one's free will. As the C's remind us, it is not STO to determine the needs of another. You have to work on getting to the point of being able to see that person as being MORE, so much MORE than who/what you currently see them to be, to see them as a unique soul who has their own lessons to learn -- in quite distinct separation from you -- and has freely made their own choices to be who and what they are at this moment in time.

MrGullible said:
I feel "future-guilty" that I might make some progress but leave them behind "in the masses".

None of us knows what the future holds. It is important to live and experience things as much as possible in the present, in the now, and resist the temptation to visualize and project dire future scenarios. Try to accept the idea that you do not necessarily know what you think you know. You think you "know" your wife and brother, and what they are all about. But consider the possibility that as you learn and grow in the Work you may in fact find that you have been viewing them in a distorted fashion, and that as you uncover unknown aspects of yourself, you may also discover unknown aspects and qualities in them. Consider the possibility that simply observing the changes occurring in you may also prompt changes in them, stir questions and dissatisfaction, and a desire to seek answers. We must neither over-estimate nor under-estimate the people in our lives. We must be prepared for negative eventualities, but at the same time remain open to possibility.

MrGullible said:
The loneliness is related to not having close ones that I can share in person with as I'm going through inner difficulties.

Alas, loneliness seems to be an inevitable part of spiritual work. It inevitably leads us to the realization that no matter how many people we are surrounded with, ultimately we are alone when it comes to facing ourselves.

You may find the following threads helpful/relevant:

Can doing the Work in a non-collinear relationship be True Love?

Marital conflict, children and the Work
 
Anart said:
I suppose the simplest way to find out, viscerally, why it is so important to 'keep silent' is to not keep silent and see what happens. I would NOT suggest this, simply because every example of this I have ever personally seen has resulted in enormous damage that was not possible to reverse.

I agree with Anart. Unfortunately, when I was starting to “wake up” I think I may have made such a mistake. I had the naive notion that by inserting myself into circumstances in which I could direct a conversation towards esoteric concepts and/or about information concerning the reality of this world I would actually be doing something and be of service to others. In essence, I suppose I was incorrectly doing the following (though at that time I hadn’t read a word of Boris Mouravieff’s Gnosis):

Gnosis I – Exoteric Cycle by Boris Mouravieff said:
The hero, while working on
himself, must apply himself to create new circumstances around him, which
will enhance the unfolding of the action towards its originally intended
conclusion. His exterior efforts must above all be directed towards the
creation of these circumstances, not towards seeking direct influence over
people: this kind of influence often seems opportune, but in the great
majority of cases it is an error. Instead of unravelling the situation, the
influence creates karmic debts which complicate things all the more. One
must be very prudent and circumspect. Yet new circumstances must be
created in a way that effectively helps those interested to act in the direction
desired. Once again, man should seek to serve, not to impose himself.
Patience, perseverance and faith are qualities of great practical value in this
work.

At the time I genuinely felt that what I was doing was in the best interest of not only myself but also to those whom I divulged such information, I now realize that my actions were manipulative and only complicated the matter. I was forcing information onto my friends and family that had no interest in the information I was manipulatively giving to them. I feel the following may also apply:

Gnosis I – Exoteric Cycle by Boris Mouravieff said:
In our actions in the milieu in which we live, we must take care not to believe that those around us automatically follow our evolution stage by stage, and that they are at
each moment at the level we have reached by following conscious and
sustained efforts which they have not made. Such an idea would certainly
be absurd; but does not man live in the absurd?.........

I have spent a large portion of my life in introspection with the desire to understand not only myself but also to understand the gulf that exists between what the world could be and what it is actually. I think it is possible that in some ways I may perceive the world on a level different than my peers as an effect of these efforts. But at the back of mind I always had the thought, “You never know, maybe he/she has thought similarly, is open and may think like I do…..and the only way to find out is to give it a shot and see what happens.....I want so much for someone else to realize the state of our situation for him/herself …” This, of course, was only a lie to myself based on false assumptions under the false guise that I was somehow serving others when I was actually just serving myself. In other words, my subjective love was in overflow and all I wanted to do was talk to ears that would listen:

Gnosis I Exoteric Cycle by Boris Mouravieff said:
The feeling of liberation, even though partial, and the joy felt after each victory over oneself, surpass the limited and weak understanding of exterior man; and he feels the need to express them. This need is in a certain
way legitimate. We must nevertheless be prudent. The Tradition's rule on this subject is explicit; it prescribes: 'keep silent' But it would be an error to think that it requires a true vow of silence. To keep silent, in the esoteric sense, means to talk, but to talk within well defined limits: man must say what must be said, when it must be said, and to whom it must be said. This naturally
excludes all gossip and loquacity………… Nevertheless, people whose magnetic centres have made their appearance and are developing feel the need to talk about it. 'It is out of the abundance of the heart that the mouth speaks.' But let them only share their joys and
experiences with those who, like them, have undertaken esoteric work.
Besides, the rule of keeping silent is not obligatory, except at the beginning
of esoteric training. Soon, by virtue of his conscious efforts, man starts to
evolve and perceives the futility of most mundane relations. To mix the
fruits of evolution with this life is always erroneous.
.

In essence, I had not realized this “well defined limit” (and possibly still don’t). By speaking I was only doing it for myself while mistakenly believing that I was doing it for the sake of others. In other words, a “conversation of the deaf” as mentioned by Mouravieff:

Gnosis I – Exoteric Cycle by Boris Mouravieff said:
Another prescription, which we must force ourselves to respect from
our first step in esoteric work, is added to the rule which prescribes silence.
If we observe people who participate in a conversation or general discussion,
we will constate that, instead of listening for themselves, in order to
learn, and speaking/or others, each speaks for himself, and listens to others
out of politeness to them. We do not escape this rule. Everybody wants to
insert his ideas somewhere, and searches for the most suitable occasion to
do this. While waiting for our chance, we listen with patience and more or
less attend to what is being said. When a conversation is being led in such a
way, it is of course a conversation of the deaf, where we can rarely learn,
and where generally we learn nothing. When they separate, each participant
takes back the luggage with which he came, with this difference, that
this sort of conversation provokes a considerable loss of fine energies.


By “creating circumstance” in this way I thought I would increase the possibility to learn something useful about the action of the General Law (4D STS at that time). I thought with full confidence that by making observations of the vectors presented to me via the General Law I would somehow be able to more effectively discern the various "tactics" used to keep me in my place and avert such vectors successfully. I realize now the foolishness of this type of thinking.

He who
studies esoteric science must not naively oppose 'A' influences. That would
only succeed in bringing catastrophe. This was Don Quixote's instructive
experience —so wrongly understood. 'A' influences play a positive role in
the economy of the Universe. They combine with devastating force to
oppose anyone who tries to attack them directly in their ensemble. The
task of the seeker is different. Instead of trying to annihilate the 'A' influences,
or to carve out a path between them for himself by his exploits,
while continuing his esoteric education, he should instead escape their grasp........

To say that the following statement (emphasis mine, "I would NOT suggest this, simply because every sample of this I have ever personally seen has resulted in enormous damage that was not possible to reverse", is haunting would be a severe understatement . I have indirectly written of such possible effects both here and here. I hope the damage incurred thus far is not of a nature such that my current efforts are in vain. I understand more fully now what Boris Mouravieff may have been alluding to in the following excerpt from Gnosis I - Exoteric Cycle:


Though logic tends to formulate clear definitions on the
intellectual plane, it remains no less true that the working of intelligence is
controlled by Illusion, which distorts our judgment in many situations.
On the emotional plane, the situation is even more muddled, as it is very
difficult to orient ourselves and in a clear cut way —to differentiate — that
which is born from ourselves from that which is the result of exterior
impressions; in other words, it is difficult to know what is and what is
not me. The easy differentiation between object and subject in the physical
world, already less easy in the intellectual world, is particularly difficult in
the emotional world, but the emotional life is the primary object of esoteric
work. That is why we attach so much importance in esoteric teaching to
the development of a critical spirit directed towards ourselves, that is to
say, towards the phenomena of our inner life.

In retrospect, I sincerely wish I had only studied the material related to The Work in much greater detail and not subjected myself to the "invisible combat" with only an arsenal of good intentions and introspection without the proper armor of knowledge. I realize more than ever the frightening gravity of truth within the proverb "the road to hell is paved with good intentions". Thus, whenever I find my heart finding its way to my lips I bite my tongue and remain silent.
 
Thank you for relaying your experiences, SeekingtheTruth. Reading and rereading parts and all of this thread several times has given me some "grounding" on this issue.
 
Laura said:
There is also an obvious reason why certain so-called esoteric groups do NOT get "attacked." Can anyone come up with the answer to why that might be?

Because of the stone wall
 
PepperFritz said:
Pryf said:
Because of the stone wall

Hi Pryf. I'm afraid I don't understand your reply. Could you elaborate?

I think pryf missed the clue in laura's question. The clue was "so-called esoteric groups"
 
Perceval said:
PepperFritz said:
Pryf said:
Because of the stone wall

Hi Pryf. I'm afraid I don't understand your reply. Could you elaborate?

I think pryf missed the clue in laura's question. The clue was "so-called esoteric groups"

Yes I did...Ok," so-called", then I think people here gave a good number of good responses :huh:
 
PepperFritz said:
Pryf said:
Because of the stone wall

Hi Pryf. I'm afraid I don't understand your reply. Could you elaborate?

Hi PepperFritz, I'm going to start a thread on this item in the forum wich will be about a book I am reading now "The mistery of Belicena Villca" and will explain my reply. :)
 
The necessity for secrecy might have been important in the past. But in our times it is surely a false dilemma.
Those who have experienced the wave, have recourse to an inner key that can be used to interpret the code of the abstract language, on a higher point of convergence.
As such all Truth can be spelled out at a high enough level of abstraction. It will be at the same time complete and available only to those who 'have eyes to see'.
There is no need for a code at the level of language anymore, or at the level of withholding for stating certain truths.
This time the code is the consciousness itself who had seen and understood the wave.
This consciousness can follow the right thread of itself mirrored in other localized bodies easily.
The capacity of language to sustain multiple meanings does not even need to use special language codes, if one is rooted at a high enough level of abstraction.
The code is in plain sight this time :)
 
Hello andreidita,
Simply put, the way you came across sounds "New Agey" to me. I don`t think it needs to be that complicated. FWIW.
 

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