Carlisle said:
andreidita said:
Nancy2feathers said:
I guess I`m more of a straightforward kind of person. Okay,maybe "New Agey" wasn`t the right choice of words to describe andreidita`s post. It was thought provoking. :)
i'll try to rephrase the point i was trying to make in a clearer way.
1. The cosmic change has happened. As it is stated in the glossary: "The Ra, Plaeaidian and Cassiopaea channeled materials point to
a cosmic change in the 2012 timeframe."
2. before this event Secrecy was needed for STO groups, due to the fact that STS groups had the upper hand, and tried to infiltrate by any means STO groups.
3. After 1, the scales have turned, and STO groups have the upper hand, and the moment for coming out in the open has arrived
4. i was making also a point about the two types of Secrecy. That used by STS who rely on a 'hidden code', and that used by STO who use the 'code which is out in the open' as gdpetti said.
5. until we have completely removed ourselves from the inertia of the past, and moved completely in the now, there is a chance to still relate to 'truths' that applied in past times, but do not apply anymore (i.e. the attitude towards secrecy)
Hi andreidita, I'm having trouble making any kind of sense out of what you've written here. Do you have any information to back this up? What kind of cosmic change has happened? Who are the other STO groups, where are they gaining the upper hand? Which ones are coming out into the open? How do you know that this group doesn't suffer continuous attacks by "Sts Groups" (which it does)? What's a hidden code? In short, can you back up anything that you've just said with logic or evidence?
regarding the other STO groups names like Castaneda, Osho, Gurdjieff, Reich or Roerich are individuals who promoted and tried to set-up such STO groups.
All these endeavors were given hard times by the STS polarized mass humanity, believing in ancient half-baked thought systems (e.g. conservative american christianity)
regarding to the change which has happened, it was pointed out in many independent sources, Ra, Plaeaidian and Cassiopaea materials being among them. This is not, as of yet, an objective 3rd density fact, and as such i can not point to you 'this' or 'that' fact to back it up.
As of yet, it is a subjective fact, that many experienced or are in the process of experiencing.
it comes down to the commitment one undertakes at a deep level, regarding the point we, as Humanity, have reached in the scale of Cosmic Evolution.
if one believes we are not past the threshold, or that there is no such threshold all i'm saying is just pure speculation. and there is no problem with that.
otoh, if one is committed to the fact that we are past the threshold, then one can look for signs pointing to where exactly we are in the process. Most of them are still subtle facts, like more and more Souled children being born, who are very awake from early age and so on
regarding the 'coming out in the open' i was referring to the individuals/groups of STO orientation, who should assume more plainly the position they have in regard to Humanity, and let go of idiosyncratic beliefs and co-operate in One Collective Endeavor. This One Collective Endeavor is described by Leonid Andreev in "The Rose of the World"
" But here or there, in this country or another, a decade earlier or later, the interreligious, global church of the new age the Rose of the World will appear as the sum total of the spiritual activity of many people, as the joint creation of people standing beneath the shower of heaven-sent revelation it will appear, emerge, and embark on its historical journey.
Religion, interreligion, church I cannot render the idea with the necessary exactitude using those words. Its many fundamental departures from previous religions and churches will in time require new words to be coined for use in reference to it. But even without them, it will be necessary to introduce such a large vocabulary of new words into the pages of this book that now, at the beginning, I think it best not to run to the aid of those words but to rely on a descriptive definition of the distinguishing features of what will be called the Rose of the World.
It will not be like any restricted religious faith, whether true or false. Nor will it be an international religious order like the Theosophists, the Anthroposophists, or the Masons, composed, like a bouquet, of various flowers of truth eclectically picked from every imaginable religious glade. It will be an interreligion or pan-religion, in that it will be a teaching that views all religions that appeared earlier as reflections of different layers of spiritual reality, different sets of variomaterial facts, and different segments of our planetary cosmos ("Planetary cosmos" refers to the sum total of planes of differing materiality, dimensions, and time streams that are necessarily linked to the Earth."
in regard to the attacks upon this group from Sts factions, i am sure it still applies. But you have to take into account the possibility that the 'War is Over', and the leading Sts factions already accepted the Law of One, but there are still some isolated sts factions which due to inertia still continue their tactics. I can't present a hard fact to prove this of course. You and anyone else has to refer to his own intuition on such matters. In my case it is a fact backed up by various subjective experiences and acknowledgment of defeat from the Sts factions.
through 'hidden code' i was referring to the secrecy tactics of sts factions, like masonry members, who in the open behave like regular people, but behind the doors they just co-operate to leech off the community of large
Hope that this clears it up somewhat what i was saying
p.s.
as a side note, do you think is EC to begin a reply by implying that what the other just wrote is non-sense? :) Because if you say that you're "having trouble making
any kind of sense", it logically implies that all i said is plain non-sense. I mean, you did not say that some things are not clear, or that some points you disagree with, but that you had trouble making any kind of sense :)
Oh wait, those eyes... I remember that line from Chronicles of Riddick, right? That didn't turn out too well, let's hope this time is different, though the 'language' itself really doesn't change, does it? Isn't the entirety of creation simply the language of the Creator's self-expression? IT doesn't need language in any code, we do. 
