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The Force is Strong With This One
I posted some of my history of dietary experiments previously under 'The vegetarian Myth' section. I wanted to give consideration here to a fruitarian diet for healing, and share a bit about my experiment with it.
Last year I ate mostly ketogenic, based on research and learning from a few books (Man 2.0, Four Hour Body, Grain Brain), and as a last resort to heal a few things, and to build some muscle. For the years before, I'd eaten vegetarian some years, and moderate meat other years, mostly fish. Paleo type diets for certain years, and the Specific Carb Diet, which is a diet to heal the bowels, which consisted of no refined carbs and meat, some vegetables and fruit, and no starches of any kind. That and water fasting / master cleanses. I didn't get to the root of the healing, though I felt best on certain days on the master cleanse (lemon, maple syrup liquid fast). I’d tried about 50 other dietary approaches, with varied levels of success. (That would be pages of writing).
Anyway, the Ketogenic diet had me achieving some of my health goals, but a few chronic conditions worsened (cough and nasal mucus), which I'd had since infancy. Ok. Also, I hadn’t cut out dairy, though I’d cut it out in other years.
What I do agree with:
Vegetables are not ideal food
Grains and beans are not ideal food (and certain modified grains are damaging)
Dairy is damaging generally, though perhaps fermented or raw in tiny amounts could be healing in certain circumstances
Certain grass fed meats may be more suitable food for humans than the above.
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At the beginning of the year, I’d switched to the most healing diet I could find at the time, Gerson Therapy. Some healing, though slow and plodding. So I was reading in the bath, coughing, doing that thing where I ask for guidance, and then I open a book, and in a book on Buddhism, I turned to a chapter and it suggested using only medicine made of urine. Then I researched urine therapy and read 'The Water of Life: A treatise on urine therapy.' The written experiments of a practitioner who supported his clients in healing Cancer and other ailments on urine fasts, just drinking one's own urine, and massaging with it. I tried it. It had a medicinal effect. Too much, actually, so I entered a 'healing crisis' that was a bit intense. Profound headache and nasal discharge. What was interesting is that I could taste in the urine what the body used and what it ejected. For instance, meat, dairy, and vegetables, produced bitter, unpalatable urine. And fruit / fasting produced sweeter urine.
The Gerson Therapy advised cutting out all protein rich foods, even nuts and beans. Which was a far leap from ketogenic / paleo. Research Gerson… you’ll discover it does have a fairly steady track record and good success rate. Not only for healing of the cancers but also for healing of prolapsed disks and such. Anyway, I found that it aligned fairly well to the sweet urine thesis. Except for the hourly green juice, which was bitter. I’d assuming the urine was ejecting nutrients that were superfluous to the system at that time. The urine therapy thesis is that urine acts as a sort of homeopathic remedy, and that wastes go out through the other system, and excess nutrients leave through the urinary tract, so they are ‘re-usable’, in a sense.
So this, using urine as a sort of bio-feedback device, lead me into researching fruit diets as healing, which I'd already done somewhat because of the Master Cleanse, on which I felt great for one of the few times. (though the results weren't steady). I came upon late 19th and early 20th century naturopaths, including Arnold Ehret. At the same time Dr. Morse on youtube.
Anyway, I’ve been eating mostly fruit and fruit juices for 7 months, with occasional green juice or salad, and virtually no protein rich foods, and have experienced more healing than on the other diets. This also coupled with various herbal teas.
I’ve experienced: improved clarity, and iris of the eye lightening, and the brown eyes turning slightly greener. Less back pain. Less foot pain on waking. More mobility in upper cervical area (which I injured in the past). Reiterated pains from previous traumas, and then clearing of those. Much discharge of mucus from head and bowels, and lungs. 20 year skin condition cleared. I also never need to drink water on days when I’m eating all fruit. Also, some days I hardly need any fruit. And I am able to dry fast quite easily on certain days. No body odor. Skin healthier. Hair slightly thicker. No need to use lotions or oils for dry skin. More energy. More positive outlook. Lunulas on nails returning. Acne scars healing (60% thus far).
Dr Morse and others (Ehret, Lovewisdom) talk about the fruit diet launching them into out of body experiences frequently. I haven’t experienced that yet.
This ’feeling good’ happens in between bouts of ‘detoxing’, which were constant for the first few weeks, and are now sporadic and rare. Cold and flu like symptoms, among others.
A word about fruit is that the diet does not necessarily include vegetables. The human system does not seem to be evolved to digest the cellulose in raw vegetables.
So I just wanted to point this out as another potentially viable healing strategy, in case the modified paleo diet doesn’t work for some.
Perhaps there are genetic differences in people that account for this?
This journey was also inspired because my mother tried Wahl’s paleo protocol for MS without much success for the past 3 years, and I’d tried it in various forms for different years of my life (because the research aligns), but I knew I needed to try something else.
Ehret treated mental and physical patients at his Sanitorium for Fruit and Fasting with seemingly great results.
For optimal athletic performance, on the fruitarian diet (which I have not experimented with), I read the 80/10/10 diet and the fruitarian.com, both of whom advocate adopting a fruitarian diet solely for performance (and both acclaimed athletes in their own right). They say it is the best for athletic performance. I find that impractical, since the fruitarian.com person is an acclaimed marathoner and ultra-runner, but needs 6 full sized fridges to keep enough fruit around.
I think of fruit as an ideal food in many ways. It is palatable as is. Water rich. Complete for the human system in that it contains the fiber needed to move through. Cleansing. Minimal digestive effort required. High energy. Enzyme rich. Portable. Not requiring seasoning or cooking or water in the processing. Contains less radioactive waste than vegetables or meat (purportedly). Since that settles on the shallow root plants and the animals eat those.
Though I do not much trust genetic studies, they’ve found that we are only 2% removed from Chimps and Bonobos genetically, who subsist on a frugivorous omnivore diet (like 50-60% fruit). Perhaps this is an ideal diet for some humans? Or engaging in it for a time activates healing and regeneration?
I don’t know about living on a fruit diet long term. I haven’t tried it, nor do I feel compelled to currently. Ehret and Morse basically state that a fruit diet may be ideal, but we are not at a place where we can handle it. As soon as Ehret seems to have mastered it, he mysteriously diet at 53, after giving a lecture, when a woman lured him around a corner with a glass of orange juice, and he was found with a bludgeoned head. (I’d like to ask the C’s about this because it is curious).
I am accumulating great evidence of the fruit diet being profoundly healing in the short term, and aiding in the process of detoxification. And I consider myself a challenging case, being a cystic fibrosis ‘carrier’ (and though genetically it shouldn’t be possible, many carriers seem to exhibit some of the symptoms), and having been dealing with congestion issues since infancy, exacerbated by feeding of formula, antibiotics regularly, standard american diet, etc.
The tropical scenario would make it easier for our ancestors to subsist on fruit, whereas other environments would make it easier not to. So perhaps there were some humans that evolved in tropical climates, and some that evolved outside of them? I also think a lot about this in relation to ‘the fall’ and the expulsion from paradise. That and the fact that most fruits have been hybridized over the years, though Dr. Morse has mentioned that even on Walmart Grapes ( a low quality grape), he has seen massive healing. Perhaps this was the diet of humans before global cataclysms, or destroyed landscapes due to agriculture (‘introduced by the gods’)?
I’ve read / heard of bodies healing (on fruit / herbs): broken bones, MS, cancer, parkinson’s, arthritis, skin conditions, paralysis, brain damage, AIDS, HIV, Lyme’s disease, all bowel diseases, tumors, hair loss, teeth issues, etc etc. One person’s teeth ejected their cavities and re-mineralized.
Ehret and Morse talk about their cuts not bleeding on the diet. Ehret traveled where there were deadly viruses and never contracted them. Because the lymph system is operating fully?
Any thoughts? It’s hard to bring up to any group of people, paleo or vegan, because it challenges belief systems about nutrition. But my personal experience is that it is healing thus far, and that most of what we know about 'nutrition' seems to be wrong.
Also, I was reading that Gurdjieff ‘suffered with bronchitis for 30 years’. Somehow reading that inspired me not to do the same.
Anyway, I thought I'd share, and hope to update more in the coming months, as / when / if more healing happens.
***
Do the C's say anything about fruit diet? I remember reading once that they recommended a woman who was experiencing a health challenge 'eat more fruit', and then in other lines about needing to eat meat or vegetarians being doomed. And I did read the Vegetarian myth... I found it interesting, though not related to the above topics, per se.
Last year I ate mostly ketogenic, based on research and learning from a few books (Man 2.0, Four Hour Body, Grain Brain), and as a last resort to heal a few things, and to build some muscle. For the years before, I'd eaten vegetarian some years, and moderate meat other years, mostly fish. Paleo type diets for certain years, and the Specific Carb Diet, which is a diet to heal the bowels, which consisted of no refined carbs and meat, some vegetables and fruit, and no starches of any kind. That and water fasting / master cleanses. I didn't get to the root of the healing, though I felt best on certain days on the master cleanse (lemon, maple syrup liquid fast). I’d tried about 50 other dietary approaches, with varied levels of success. (That would be pages of writing).
Anyway, the Ketogenic diet had me achieving some of my health goals, but a few chronic conditions worsened (cough and nasal mucus), which I'd had since infancy. Ok. Also, I hadn’t cut out dairy, though I’d cut it out in other years.
What I do agree with:
Vegetables are not ideal food
Grains and beans are not ideal food (and certain modified grains are damaging)
Dairy is damaging generally, though perhaps fermented or raw in tiny amounts could be healing in certain circumstances
Certain grass fed meats may be more suitable food for humans than the above.
***
At the beginning of the year, I’d switched to the most healing diet I could find at the time, Gerson Therapy. Some healing, though slow and plodding. So I was reading in the bath, coughing, doing that thing where I ask for guidance, and then I open a book, and in a book on Buddhism, I turned to a chapter and it suggested using only medicine made of urine. Then I researched urine therapy and read 'The Water of Life: A treatise on urine therapy.' The written experiments of a practitioner who supported his clients in healing Cancer and other ailments on urine fasts, just drinking one's own urine, and massaging with it. I tried it. It had a medicinal effect. Too much, actually, so I entered a 'healing crisis' that was a bit intense. Profound headache and nasal discharge. What was interesting is that I could taste in the urine what the body used and what it ejected. For instance, meat, dairy, and vegetables, produced bitter, unpalatable urine. And fruit / fasting produced sweeter urine.
The Gerson Therapy advised cutting out all protein rich foods, even nuts and beans. Which was a far leap from ketogenic / paleo. Research Gerson… you’ll discover it does have a fairly steady track record and good success rate. Not only for healing of the cancers but also for healing of prolapsed disks and such. Anyway, I found that it aligned fairly well to the sweet urine thesis. Except for the hourly green juice, which was bitter. I’d assuming the urine was ejecting nutrients that were superfluous to the system at that time. The urine therapy thesis is that urine acts as a sort of homeopathic remedy, and that wastes go out through the other system, and excess nutrients leave through the urinary tract, so they are ‘re-usable’, in a sense.
So this, using urine as a sort of bio-feedback device, lead me into researching fruit diets as healing, which I'd already done somewhat because of the Master Cleanse, on which I felt great for one of the few times. (though the results weren't steady). I came upon late 19th and early 20th century naturopaths, including Arnold Ehret. At the same time Dr. Morse on youtube.
Anyway, I’ve been eating mostly fruit and fruit juices for 7 months, with occasional green juice or salad, and virtually no protein rich foods, and have experienced more healing than on the other diets. This also coupled with various herbal teas.
I’ve experienced: improved clarity, and iris of the eye lightening, and the brown eyes turning slightly greener. Less back pain. Less foot pain on waking. More mobility in upper cervical area (which I injured in the past). Reiterated pains from previous traumas, and then clearing of those. Much discharge of mucus from head and bowels, and lungs. 20 year skin condition cleared. I also never need to drink water on days when I’m eating all fruit. Also, some days I hardly need any fruit. And I am able to dry fast quite easily on certain days. No body odor. Skin healthier. Hair slightly thicker. No need to use lotions or oils for dry skin. More energy. More positive outlook. Lunulas on nails returning. Acne scars healing (60% thus far).
Dr Morse and others (Ehret, Lovewisdom) talk about the fruit diet launching them into out of body experiences frequently. I haven’t experienced that yet.
This ’feeling good’ happens in between bouts of ‘detoxing’, which were constant for the first few weeks, and are now sporadic and rare. Cold and flu like symptoms, among others.
A word about fruit is that the diet does not necessarily include vegetables. The human system does not seem to be evolved to digest the cellulose in raw vegetables.
So I just wanted to point this out as another potentially viable healing strategy, in case the modified paleo diet doesn’t work for some.
Perhaps there are genetic differences in people that account for this?
This journey was also inspired because my mother tried Wahl’s paleo protocol for MS without much success for the past 3 years, and I’d tried it in various forms for different years of my life (because the research aligns), but I knew I needed to try something else.
Ehret treated mental and physical patients at his Sanitorium for Fruit and Fasting with seemingly great results.
For optimal athletic performance, on the fruitarian diet (which I have not experimented with), I read the 80/10/10 diet and the fruitarian.com, both of whom advocate adopting a fruitarian diet solely for performance (and both acclaimed athletes in their own right). They say it is the best for athletic performance. I find that impractical, since the fruitarian.com person is an acclaimed marathoner and ultra-runner, but needs 6 full sized fridges to keep enough fruit around.
I think of fruit as an ideal food in many ways. It is palatable as is. Water rich. Complete for the human system in that it contains the fiber needed to move through. Cleansing. Minimal digestive effort required. High energy. Enzyme rich. Portable. Not requiring seasoning or cooking or water in the processing. Contains less radioactive waste than vegetables or meat (purportedly). Since that settles on the shallow root plants and the animals eat those.
Though I do not much trust genetic studies, they’ve found that we are only 2% removed from Chimps and Bonobos genetically, who subsist on a frugivorous omnivore diet (like 50-60% fruit). Perhaps this is an ideal diet for some humans? Or engaging in it for a time activates healing and regeneration?
I don’t know about living on a fruit diet long term. I haven’t tried it, nor do I feel compelled to currently. Ehret and Morse basically state that a fruit diet may be ideal, but we are not at a place where we can handle it. As soon as Ehret seems to have mastered it, he mysteriously diet at 53, after giving a lecture, when a woman lured him around a corner with a glass of orange juice, and he was found with a bludgeoned head. (I’d like to ask the C’s about this because it is curious).
I am accumulating great evidence of the fruit diet being profoundly healing in the short term, and aiding in the process of detoxification. And I consider myself a challenging case, being a cystic fibrosis ‘carrier’ (and though genetically it shouldn’t be possible, many carriers seem to exhibit some of the symptoms), and having been dealing with congestion issues since infancy, exacerbated by feeding of formula, antibiotics regularly, standard american diet, etc.
The tropical scenario would make it easier for our ancestors to subsist on fruit, whereas other environments would make it easier not to. So perhaps there were some humans that evolved in tropical climates, and some that evolved outside of them? I also think a lot about this in relation to ‘the fall’ and the expulsion from paradise. That and the fact that most fruits have been hybridized over the years, though Dr. Morse has mentioned that even on Walmart Grapes ( a low quality grape), he has seen massive healing. Perhaps this was the diet of humans before global cataclysms, or destroyed landscapes due to agriculture (‘introduced by the gods’)?
I’ve read / heard of bodies healing (on fruit / herbs): broken bones, MS, cancer, parkinson’s, arthritis, skin conditions, paralysis, brain damage, AIDS, HIV, Lyme’s disease, all bowel diseases, tumors, hair loss, teeth issues, etc etc. One person’s teeth ejected their cavities and re-mineralized.
Ehret and Morse talk about their cuts not bleeding on the diet. Ehret traveled where there were deadly viruses and never contracted them. Because the lymph system is operating fully?
Any thoughts? It’s hard to bring up to any group of people, paleo or vegan, because it challenges belief systems about nutrition. But my personal experience is that it is healing thus far, and that most of what we know about 'nutrition' seems to be wrong.
Also, I was reading that Gurdjieff ‘suffered with bronchitis for 30 years’. Somehow reading that inspired me not to do the same.
Anyway, I thought I'd share, and hope to update more in the coming months, as / when / if more healing happens.
***
Do the C's say anything about fruit diet? I remember reading once that they recommended a woman who was experiencing a health challenge 'eat more fruit', and then in other lines about needing to eat meat or vegetarians being doomed. And I did read the Vegetarian myth... I found it interesting, though not related to the above topics, per se.
