2020 US Election - Let The Games Begin!

These hearings have been a dog and pony show. Does this mean that it is over? Sounds like the Supreme court is sanctioning civil war. Or are Republicans going to object on January 6th?


Trump still has case against the election fraud. And then there is Sidney Powell. Other than that, I don't know what the options are. Unless Trump declares martial law and orders a revote. But that's extremely risky.
 
Trump still has case against the election fraud. And then there is Sidney Powell. Other than that, I don't know what the options are. Unless Trump declares martial law and orders a revote. But that's extremely risky.

What shook me is who signed on to support it, including 106 Republican (196 in total) House members and 18 (or more, not sure) States.

The US is a Rebel Nation. I wish Biden and his ''Great Reset'' best of luck.
 
What shook me is who signed on to support it, including 106 Republican (196 in total) House members and 18 (or more, not sure) States.

The US is a Rebel Nation. I wish Biden and his ''Great Reset'' best of luck.

SCOTUS voted 9-0. Not a single vote for the Texas election lawsuit. When it comes down to it. The Deep State controls all.

More cases are heading towards SCOTUS. If they suddenly vote in favor for Trump. You know it's all have been a set-up. But right now, I think that the US is officially lost. This was the last battle. If this is how it ends then there is only one option left. And that's 1776.
 
What shook me is who signed on to support it, including 106 Republican (196 in total) House members and 18 (or more, not sure) States.

The US is a Rebel Nation. I wish Biden and his ''Great Reset'' best of luck.
This morning I was thinking about who will grant the supreme court judges protection, knowing how the Killary Gang likes to execute anybody not dancing to their tune? What favorable decision will any judge dare to make - with the full knowledge of a highly possible retaliation from Democrat-hired assassins? In a country that freely murdered any president the Criminals In Power didn't like in the past.. I figured, from the part of the judges it would be signing their own death sentence.
 

Who Will Be the Fraud Deniers?​



"These are just anomalies. They happen in every election."

Well folks, anomalies cease to be anomalies when they all go in one direction. When every outlier favors Biden, we enter the realm of prima facie fraud.

Fraud.

It's an ugly word.

It does not have a pretty synonym. Too bad.

Election fraud at the industrial scale perpetrated in the 2020 election is a crime most Americans will remember all their lives. Books and movies will come out. Retired math PhDs exiled to the basement by their spouses will continue to find statistical patterns that simply do not happen in straight data sets.

Like all great crimes, the 2020 election fraud will have a diffusion curve with early believers and early deniers, later adopters and fewer deniers and finally, only the ideologically blind will deny.

Diffusion curves happen in nature, in technology, in disease spread, in the understanding of any popular idea. In early stages only the really committed dig in. Over time, a realization makes its way into popular culture and eventually most have generally seen the data. We are departing the early adopter stage of 2020 election fraud understanding.

The all-in media is double timing to convince the later adopters there is nothing to see here.

It isn't working. Too much stuff is coming out from too many places and there are just too many alternative web sites publishing fraud examples on such a scale it cannot be denied by any but the willful.

We are about to move out of the early adopter phase and more into the later adopters, the early mainstream. Evidence of this is the hardy groups of state legislators inviting Rudy and the Excellent Adventure Team to make sure they are not on the wrong side of this gnarly problem.

Some of the Atlanta folks who took advantage of a fake water main break are hiring lawyers. Seemed like a slam dunk only a month ago. What happened?

Formerly anonymous people, now public witnesses to election fraud, are coming forward and their personalities, magnified by television - quirky, innocent, naïve, immigrant, feisty are having a pronounced effect. Some are gathering fans. This is not how it was supposed to be.

Trump MAGA voters appear to be driven by only one issue: Trump got screwed and any Republican politico who denies it is in for tough sledding. Politicos are starting to get it. The Trump voters do not appear to be getting on with the program.

Fox News ratings plummeted in just a week or two because they seemed to be in on it and later doubled down by not reporting it. 'It,' that is, being industrial scale election fraud – against Trump.

Erwin Rommel told his generals that if they did not stop the Allies on the beach, the war was lost.

Similarly, the media needed to extinguish the 2020 election fraud story in a week or two, or this multi-headed demon would be too big to stop. It is getting too big.

It was easy for Governor Ducey or Kemp, the hapless Georgia Secretary of State and Lt. Governor to be above it all and deny fraud for the first couple of weeks. These are the good guys, elections are honest, this is America. Let's move on.

But we aren't moving on. Things are getting sticky. There is that video of the suitcases. Yuk! So inconvenient. Then that Trump rally, masses of committed voters all with one voice. "Stop the Steal!" shouted together does scare guys like Kemp in a very existential way. This was not supposed to happen.

There are these websites, talk radio people, MIT statisticians, all-too-human witnesses on the Rudy Show. This is having an impact and the narrative is no longer being controlled by the media. The fraud story is spreading to the early mainstream.

There is the growing understanding that vote machines should not count in fractions. No black and white denial that they were spawned in some very bad places. Compelling evidence accumulates, from crew cut, straight backed military types, showing election night internet packet traffic from voting machines that are not connected to the internet. Oops.

Packets went to Iran, Serbia, Germany. Why? People are noticing there is no Dominion CEO coming forth, under oath saying "not so."

Even the most computer illiterate understands this is not as it ought to be.

There is a universal characteristic to really bad news. It never comes out early. It drips out, a bit at a time, and there is always one more painful point coming.

This narrative is coming apart and it will only escalate, move quickly, get more colorful, people will turn.

Who then will be the 2020 election fraud deniers?

Hey Ducey, Kemp, RINOs, it's all downhill from here.
 
Unless Trump declares martial law and orders a revote. But that's extremely risky.
I wrote somewhere on here that the office of president has incredible powers that are never used, and Trump can declare martial law (suspending civil law) for all kinds of reasons. All such options, I agree, are very risky because they've effectively never been used and would probably set off a powder keg.
Q: (Joe) How likely is it that there will be some major public chaos or civil chaos if Trump wins?
A: Very likely and will lead to martial law.
The case asked about here regards a Trump win first, martial law second. I'm not sure how it will be possible the other way around. Maybe it wouldn't be a presidency that is won.
 
I wrote somewhere on here that the office of president has incredible powers that are never used, and Trump can declare martial law (suspending civil law) for all kinds of reasons. All such options, I agree, are very risky because they've effectively never been used and would probably set off a powder keg.

The case asked about here regards a Trump win first, martial law second. I'm not sure how it will be possible the other way around. Maybe it wouldn't be a presidency that is won.

Well let's put it like this. If they really want to re-elect Trump then this scenario would be most ideal. It's literally the ultimate powder keg. Trump could declare martial law and the Deep State will not intervene by choose. He wins the revote. And Boom.

Trump should just let this slide. Most often what is most important is not that you win but how you win. If the riots starts, aka civil war. Deep State military units will just dispose of him later. By force if neccesary.

When it comes down to it. Trump doesn't stand a chance. He will be walking into a trap.
 
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He wins the revote.
There's no precedent for a re-vote and I've not heard or seen anything that would suggest such a possibility, not to mention that elections are not secure (thus pointless), so I discount that completely. As far as remaining legal courses of action, the state legislatures still hold the real, direct power over their electors, and can recall them if they decide to. Beyond that, who knows?
 
Just throwing this in here.

I think it's important to note that appearances matter more than anything else when it comes to such things.

The US must appear to be a certain way. Its core principles can't ever be challenged, let alone by its own institutions like the SCOTUS.

It's the bastion of democracy. It can do no wrong. It's infallible.

Trump lost. It can't be changed. It won't be changed - see the above for why: appearances.

The Democrats know this. Republicans have been checkmated. It's sad but it's the game.

Let's see what happens next.
 
There's no precedent for a re-vote and I've not heard or seen anything that would suggest such a possibility, not to mention that elections are not secure (thus pointless), so I discount that completely. As far as remaining legal courses of action, the state legislatures still hold the real, direct power over their electors, and can recall them if they decide to. Beyond that, who knows?

If they can get SCOTUS to vote 9-0 I think they can direct this show in almost every way they want. Let's wait and see.
 
It's also worth noting that clearly they now have the means to direct any future elections as they wish.

Democracy in America is officially dead in the water. I doubt anyone like Trump would ever be allowed to get to a position where they could win the presidency, let alone win the actual presidency given the effectiveness of the vote rigging they can now achieve. I think the PTB have taken a lot of learnings from Trump.

I'm not sure where Americans, at least the ones who are awake go from here.

It's also worth noting that no such thing as a civil war will ever happen for one main reason. War is dirty business and very few are made for it, especially those within the ranks of the most pampered civilian population in modern history!

The civil war will be fought on twitter, not on any fields withing the USA. Also, the military complex can quickly move in to maintain order and put civilians firmly back in their place. Also, it's worth noting that the military won't / can't break rank. Like everything else, they are there to uphold the appearance of the system. They serve the PTB, not the people.

All the above is sad but you know, it doesn't really matter because it is what it is. We're just here for the ride!

But lets wait and see...
 
If they can get SCOTUS to vote 9-0 I think they can direct this show in almost every way they want. Let's wait and see.
I guess the legal explanations will come out later, why these are not being heard, but it seems that there has been a directive, do not accept any of these filings, do not let them get off the ground, do not let evidence be presented.

It is their job to hear cases like this. They are there to uphold the constitution. And to hear and rule on disputes between States. And they are not doing it.

...And it allows the media to continue to crow that there is no evidence of voter fraud.
 
Ocean, your enthusiasm for finding information is appreciated; gems can be found anywhere. But it would be more externally considerate to put long articles into a quote box. Other forumites can see the opening paragraphs, then decide whether or not they want to read the whole thing. This also allow more posts per pages. See the example below. The whole article was pasted into preview, then highlighted with the quote button above. Voila! A teaser with an efficient use of forum resources. :thup:


Who Will Be the Fraud Deniers?​

"These are just anomalies. They happen in every election."

Well folks, anomalies cease to be anomalies when they all go in one direction. When every outlier favors Biden, we enter the realm of prima facie fraud.

Fraud.

It's an ugly word.

It does not have a pretty synonym. Too bad.

Election fraud at the industrial scale perpetrated in the 2020 election is a crime most Americans will remember all their lives. Books and movies will come out. Retired math PhDs exiled to the basement by their spouses will continue to find statistical patterns that simply do not happen in straight data sets.

Like all great crimes, the 2020 election fraud will have a diffusion curve with early believers and early deniers, later adopters and fewer deniers and finally, only the ideologically blind will deny.

Diffusion curves happen in nature, in technology, in disease spread, in the understanding of any popular idea. In early stages only the really committed dig in. Over time, a realization makes its way into popular culture and eventually most have generally seen the data. We are departing the early adopter stage of 2020 election fraud understanding.

The all-in media is double timing to convince the later adopters there is nothing to see here.

It isn't working. Too much stuff is coming out from too many places and there are just too many alternative web sites publishing fraud examples on such a scale it cannot be denied by any but the willful.

We are about to move out of the early adopter phase and more into the later adopters, the early mainstream. Evidence of this is the hardy groups of state legislators inviting Rudy and the Excellent Adventure Team to make sure they are not on the wrong side of this gnarly problem.

Some of the Atlanta folks who took advantage of a fake water main break are hiring lawyers. Seemed like a slam dunk only a month ago. What happened?

Formerly anonymous people, now public witnesses to election fraud, are coming forward and their personalities, magnified by television - quirky, innocent, naïve, immigrant, feisty are having a pronounced effect. Some are gathering fans. This is not how it was supposed to be.

Trump MAGA voters appear to be driven by only one issue: Trump got screwed and any Republican politico who denies it is in for tough sledding. Politicos are starting to get it. The Trump voters do not appear to be getting on with the program.

Fox News ratings plummeted in just a week or two because they seemed to be in on it and later doubled down by not reporting it. 'It,' that is, being industrial scale election fraud – against Trump.

Erwin Rommel told his generals that if they did not stop the Allies on the beach, the war was lost.

Similarly, the media needed to extinguish the 2020 election fraud story in a week or two, or this multi-headed demon would be too big to stop. It is getting too big.

It was easy for Governor Ducey or Kemp, the hapless Georgia Secretary of State and Lt. Governor to be above it all and deny fraud for the first couple of weeks. These are the good guys, elections are honest, this is America. Let's move on.

But we aren't moving on. Things are getting sticky. There is that video of the suitcases. Yuk! So inconvenient. Then that Trump rally, masses of committed voters all with one voice. "Stop the Steal!" shouted together does scare guys like Kemp in a very existential way. This was not supposed to happen.

There are these websites, talk radio people, MIT statisticians, all-too-human witnesses on the Rudy Show. This is having an impact and the narrative is no longer being controlled by the media. The fraud story is spreading to the early mainstream.

There is the growing understanding that vote machines should not count in fractions. No black and white denial that they were spawned in some very bad places. Compelling evidence accumulates, from crew cut, straight backed military types, showing election night internet packet traffic from voting machines that are not connected to the internet. Oops.

Packets went to Iran, Serbia, Germany. Why? People are noticing there is no Dominion CEO coming forth, under oath saying "not so."

Even the most computer illiterate understands this is not as it ought to be.

There is a universal characteristic to really bad news. It never comes out early. It drips out, a bit at a time, and there is always one more painful point coming.

This narrative is coming apart and it will only escalate, move quickly, get more colorful, people will turn.

Who then will be the 2020 election fraud deniers?

Hey Ducey, Kemp, RINOs, it's all downhill from here.
 

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