Thanks Scottie for your perspective on our situation in the US. I'm afraid I have a very negative opinion of it however. I'm daring to express in a way that's rather raw and perhaps unkind, so please indulge/forgive me as I think it's important to say. You know I love you all, but I can't let this pass as is. OK - letting 'er rip:
The more I think about it, the more I see that this 'Q' thing and its associated 'leaders' were a stroke of genius.
Here you have Trump, who claims he's gonna get rid of the deep state. He quickly discovers as president that his power is very limited. Eventually, you get BLM and Antifa and all these 'progressive' movements that literally turn into riots involving looting, pillaging, murder, etc. Except the official story is Peaceful Protests. This has the effect of terrorizing normal people who support Trump.
It all also makes people who can see that Trump is NOT the demon he's made out to be want to find another source of information as the MSM and social media are controlled.
They turn to Q. When the election is stolen, they turn to Powell and The Kraken, Lin Wood, etc. Every day, there's a new story: Trump is masterminding a secret operation to FINALLY take down the Deep State... 24 hours remaining... STAY TUNED!
24 hours passes, and nothing happens. So these same people go back to the source and the story has changed again. He DID do something, but it's gonna be even BIGGER now! Please wait 7 days.
And on, and on, and on it goes...
The fact is, Trump probably could have won if his supporters hadn't been neutered by all the Q/Kraken/Lin Wood nonsense that reads like a super-dramatic Netflix TV series - always keeping us hanging for the next exciting episode! But the writers don't have an actual story in mind; they're just making it up as they go along in an effort to keep people hooked to the idea that they don't have to do anything. Trump will do it - just wait a LITTLE while longer...
End Result: Biden wins.
They took Trump and turned him into The Man Who Was Gonna Get 'er Done using the same techniques that addict people to TV shows.
What if all the majority of Trump supporters had written to their representatives? Spoken out intelligently on social media? Instead, everyone sat around waiting for Trump to do everything. If they did say something, it was to push the craziest-sounding ideas, which made it very easy for other people to totally ignore them as completely insane. Add to that the consolidation of censorship, and it was bad news.
Trump COULD have won with the support of other Republicans, but they weren't gonna do anything without the support of the people. Yes, they're in it for themselves, but they can still be swayed. Too many people thought that it was enough to just vote. The past 4 years made them afraid to do any more than that, and on top of it they didn't have to! 1776 will rise again! I just have to sit back and watch the show unfold...
Even now on social media, I'm still reading comments that Trump is in a secret location in Texas, planning the Real Insurrection. At any moment, he'll declare that the real revolution is on and things will finally change! At this rate, we're still going to be reading this stuff 3 years from now.
So, in the end, I think if we want to blame anyone, we should blame ourselves. It was very difficult not be taken in by the nonsense, and a large part of that was because Trump himself is so boisterous and boastful (and even a bit nutty) that the 'Q stuff' almost sounded like it could be real.
In a sense, the deep state used Trump's strength against him. Take the thing that makes him appeal to so many people, crank it up several notches, and feed it back to them. Turn him into Superman for them while bashing him endlessly in the MSM for the Dems.... all the while working in the background to rig the election, knowing that they are the Deep State, whereas he is constrained to business + legal routes.
The fact that so many officials and reps are distancing themselves from Trump, resigning, and kissing the rears of the new rulers is pretty obvious evidence that he never had the support he needed to effect real change... or at least he didn't have it anymore by the time the election came around.
On the plus side, we've had 4 years of 'peace' in terms of allowing other nations to strengthen themselves. I'm not convinced that it will be business as usual in terms of invading other countries. Too much has changed on the global playing field.
For crying out loud - give me a f***ing break! What a bunch of sanctimonious claptrap! Please, by all means, write a treatise about how you in the UK have ripped off your masks and told your leaders to shove it! I want to hear all the details of kicking your pols/royals/MI6 to the curb! How'd that Brexit thing go for ya? Furthermore, Q may have a presence but probably not as widespread as you think! My husband never heard of him/it or anyone I associate with ever mentioned it at all. I imagine the majority of Americans don't know anything about Q. How many of the 75 million who voted for Trump were aware of Q - maybe a lot but the majority? I doubt it.
What if all the majority of Trump supporters had written to their representatives? Spoken out intelligently on social media?
Did you not read this on Sott:
Reason isn't working at all! Imagine that!
Trump COULD have won with the support of other Republicans, but they weren't gonna do anything without the support of the people. Yes, they're in it for themselves, but they can still be swayed.
Been there, done that:
I watched a documentary about the events of 1968 with a couple of my kids last night to help explain the events that shaped me. The modern generations are so video related that spoken words are not enough to convey. The video of the napalm, the bloody faces sMashed by truncheons, the assassinations of MLK And Bobby Kennedy, the student uprisings and subsequent State repression opened their eyes at least to their dad’s cynicism. For me, watching it opened many old wounds. The anger, And the grief under that. The sickening turmoil
Sorry Scottie but just like BHelmet, I lived through this and years later saw that documentary which clearly showed how much effect real people doing real protesting and pushback could have - ZERO! NOTHING CHANGED!!! If you can locate that doc called 1968 (the authentic one), I recommend you watch it. It had a tremendous impact on me.
Too many people thought that it was enough to just vote.
And isn't that the case in the UK as well? And isn't that precisely what the PTB have worked so hard to inculcate into the people's minds - that if they just vote their candidate in, things will change for the better (OBAMA CHANGE - ha ha!)?
But now the people are seeing for the first time that this totally isn't so - that their vote didn't do sh*t because it was cancelled! Such a very rude awakening! And yes, some are thinking the rescue Q has promised is going to happen any second now . . . any second . . . now . . .
Maybe the exposure of injustice against the Trump will trigger disintegration of United States, thus spoiling the 4D STS plans.
If, and it's a big if, the regular Trumpers as well as the Q believers can get beyond their emotional hysteria and actually see and comprehend what's really happening, there will be a real uprising to take back our country. Alas, it will not be a Ghandi's gentle as doves civil disobedience action. The blood will flow and since all resisters are already known thanks to 24/7 cyber surveillance, the problem people will be eliminated. The real PURGE - not just a TV show anymore - has begun. Total 4DSTS feast!
Two thousand years back, Cassius Dio wrote about Roman democracy as " Politicians betting on people, people betting on Politicians". Nothing has changed. Politicians need dedicated cadre, offices, promotion material and so on for all this. Either candidate has to put it from his pocket ( mean needs to fill it back one way or other) or take it from whoever had. the ideal of "Elected by People, for the people" itself never really existed whether one calls democracy or communism or other variations.
To start, there is no freedom, it is an illusion of freedom(I mean it's all over the world). No body can tell that better than George Carlin.
What a great post seek10 and that George Carlin compilation excellent!
Sadly, just as the Cs said, it's going total Nazi now. They also said, Scottie, that we humans COULD NOT change what's meant to happen - that only manifesting in 4D would level the playing field. I'm thinking that includes what's occurring with the contested election - all of it.
Just to reiterate:
The fact is, Trump probably could have won if his supporters hadn't been neutered by all the Q/Kraken/Lin Wood nonsense
So spare me the guilt trip, um,
perspective of us gullible Americans - by believing in Q and the other nonsense - torpedoed Trump's win!
C'mon man!
End of my rant, um,
perspective and apologies for bluntness which I'm rather loathe to express. Still love you and appreciate all you do, even to agree to disagree. It is important to express all angles of thought - that what makes this network viable.
OK - here's goes nothing - hitting post.