2020 US Election - Let The Games Begin!

Wait, it's very possible some VERY SERIOUS stuff is in the works. Trump still has the military. The military has their own complete communication system including satellites, and equipment to jam anybody else's communication system. Meaning, they can shut down/turn off all broadcast television, cable networks, broadcast radio except HAM radio (i.e. patriot radio), and the entire internet if necessary. And they can broadcast their own t.v. and radio to inform citizens as to what's going on. In fact, they can easily sequester/take over an entire cable network and use it for their own broadcast purposes.

One of the advantages of a media monopoly is that it's easy to take over and just run it yourself.

And it's the military that owns the satellites, and they have the ability to shut down the private satellites.

If they have to, the military will take over every transmission facility: every t.v. tower, cell phone network. Take it all over.

THIS IS WAR.

Trump: YOU'RE shutting ME down? Uh, no, WE'RE shutting YOU down!

You think people like Flynn and Trump are just going to give up when they have every lawful avenue to use the military to put down a coup?

And when/if they encounter unlawful resistance on the ground, for example, by Sheriff, Police, National Guard, etc., the military will not ultimately lose in that confrontation -- they will just keep sending in more troops and equipment -- although it will be ugly, the way war is ugly; and a lot people will assuredly be killed. But even if you had air to air combat between National Guard units and Air Force units, the military will ultimately win because they have more support and supplies.

Oh, and also: it's declassification/military tribunal time. Those asleep will be forced to look at some pretty uncomfortable truths. They may be screaming all the way, calling Trump a dictator, etc. But they will have to sit with some pretty indicting evidence, which Trump has been sitting on. JAG Corps will go into full operation.

Oh, also: retired generals have indicated that Trump has a cult like status in the military. Might be helpful to keep that in mind.

The real question I have has to do with Continuity of Government Deep State operatives -- the ones who threatened Trump with a coup only weeks ago should he declare Marshal Law. What kind of confrontation would that mean? Given the hysteria on the left right now, perhaps they're outgunned. In any case, I would imagine such confrontation would be seriously ugly -- unless they really ARE outgunned. Also: what are the internal loyalties regarding the nuclear arsenal? Might be good to check into that aspect of things but quick.

In any event, as we've all be saying for some time now, we're in for a seriously bumpy ride. Time to check on personal supplies.
You mean the military that has been happily invading and bombing country after country since forever? Trump does not have the military. No way. The military is the long arm of the deep state and Trump could only get himself, and the few generals that might support him, killed. Even if he does have all this power over the military, I sure hope he never uses it. Only someone who has never felt war on their own skin can call for such a tragic turn of events. Americans have been fortunate enough so far to avoid war on their own soil, which maybe means that that’s the lesson you guys ned to learn now, though. I hope not.

I said it before, Trump needs to let it go and regroup with his base towards leading a parallel society of the deplorables.
 
You mean the military that has been happily invading and bombing country after country since forever? Trump does not have the military. No way. The military is the long arm of the deep state and Trump could only get himself, and the few generals that might support him, killed. Even if he does have all this power over the military, I sure hope he never uses it. Only someone who has never felt war on their own skin can call for such a tragic turn of events. Americans have been fortunate enough so far to avoid war on their own soil, which maybe means that that’s the lesson you guys ned to learn now, though. I hope not.

I said it before, Trump needs to let it go and regroup with his base towards leading a parallel society of the deplorables.
I'm taking my talking points from Trump himself. He has not given up, just said as much through Epoch Times.

No one wants war on our soil. No one wants a totalitarian state either.

I think you're right that Trump is not insane. He would only act militarily if it was absolutely necessary, and if he had the majority of the military backing him up.

I already asked the question regarding Deep State factions/intentions. They already signaled a coup. I already asked what manner of confrontation this might entail.

None of us have all the answers. This is a place to look at what we know so far and lay it all out. That should not be a reason for your censure.
 
I would not be surprised if tomorrow Trump (the incumbent president for at least another 10 days!) Is stripped of his American citizenship or accused of Nazism (or something similar). With such frenzy (manic) and speed his opponents act.

BUT, I see that this guy's shares only grow (every hour), although many (too many even on this forum!) Think that he is rolling down into the abyss. After all, "they (opponents) will go too far and everything will collapse" - the guys from Cassiopeia.

The point of no return was crossed that day at the Capitol, when, after the rally, Trump was not allowed to speak in the Senate. Most likely, if he (his supporters) were given to demonstrate "evidence" in the Senate, then Biden would have been approved as president-elect. And that was the worst-case scenario for Trump, since this whole idea of "proving in court" failed (this is an illusion of justice - self-deception) and had a 0% chance of success.
But instead, Trump's opponents decided to mock (trample) him and organized this insane (and bloody) storming of the capitol! Yes, his supporters also took part there, but it is obvious that the provocateurs simply manipulated the crowd of angry people (who were at the rally).
And with this act (storming the Capitol) and further persecution (blocking and other things), Trump's opponents gave him a chance to succeed (they did not actually leave him a choice).
Again, with the peaceful transfer of power in the Senate, Trump had a 0% chance of proving something.
But now the chances of it are non-zero (and they rise as the situation develops). And for success, he only needs to wait calmly, remain calm, until the situation escalates to the limit (and only after that intervene!). Perhaps this is what the C's meant, whether this impulsive guy (Trump) can NOT BE YOURSELF (but will allow his opponents to fully expose themselves during these last days). Now is the best time to discover who is a friend and an enemy (since the enemies are so confident in their success that they do not even hide). Perhaps, in the last 3 days, he learned more about his enemies than in the 4 years of his presidency.
So, Don has 10 days (while he is still president) - this is the window of opportunity. I hope he now has the full support of his family, as well as wise advisors who will help determine the RIGHT MOMENT to intervene and prevent chaos (not too early, but not too late - both are bad options). Believe me, all these blockings in the media are nonsense for him (but not for ordinary voters!), Since he is still the current president and completely controls the army and navy.


PS Those were my 2 cents on this topic.
 
Even if there was no violence this week, bringing crowds of supporters to DC was still an affront to democracy and perceived as an intimidation. With violence on top of that and the storming of Congress, and human lives lost, God help us...

Ah, so mbww you must also mean these affronts to democracy and intimidatory acts? Because of course the people marching on Washington has never ever played a role before in recent American politics and all the below (a fraction of the total) never ever happened in your world...

1963 March on Washington for Jobs and Freedom
Major civil rights march at which Martin Luther King, Jr. delivered his "I Have a Dream" speech from the steps of the Lincoln Memorial. 250,000 gathered for the event.

1965 March on Washington for Peace in Vietnam
An estimated 250,000 attended.

1969 National Mobilization Committee to End the War in Vietnam
600,000 gather and demonstrate - the largest march in the history of the United States at that point.

1970 Kent State/Cambodian Incursion Protest
100,000 demonstrators converged on Washington to protest the shootings and President Richard Nixon's incursion into Cambodia

1971 May Day Protests
200,000 march for end to Vietnam War.

1978 March for the Equal Rights Amendment
Drew 100,000 feminist women and men

1979 Anti-Nuclear March
125,000 people opposed to nuclear power and weapons following the Three-Mile Island accident

1981 People's Anti-War Mobilization
March to protest Reagan Administration Central American and domestic policies; 100,000 march.

1981 Solidarity Day
260,000 protest march against Reagan Administration labor and domestic policies

1987 Second National March on Washington for Lesbian and Gay Rights
500,000 march to protest for equal civil rights action in the fight against AIDS.

1989 March for Women's Lives
Attendance estimated at 500,000.

1990 Rally for Life
According to National Park Service estimates, over 700,000 people attend.

1991 March against the Gulf War
250,000 attended the march.

1992 Save our Cities! Save our Children!
Protest of 150,000

1993 March on Washington for LGB Equal Rights
D.C. Police Department put the number over 800,000

1995 Million Man March
Boston University study put the number at 835,000

2003 Anti-war Demonstration
200,000 in attendance.

2010 March for America
200,000 people call for comprehensive immigration reform.

2010 Rally to Restore Sanity and/or Fear
National Park Service calculate well over 200,000" people

2017 Women's March on Washington
estimated 1,500,000 protesters marched in the Nation's Capital

2017 March for Truth
100,000 protesters participated in the to demand a fair and impartial investigation of the 2016 election

... It's not only the knee-jerk reaction we see right now, but I am afraid this will have even longer-time reaching implications and although I am confident that in the new decade and era to come we'll be more tolerant and less inclined to stigmatize, judge and antagonize and prone to acceptance of any foe's action - it takes and is needed a change of consciousness and heart from him too to be rehabilitated, just thinking in terms of black and white doesn't cut it anymore...

:rotfl::cheer: :rotfl::cheer: :rotfl::cheer: :rotfl: :cheer::rotfl::thup:
 
Right now, the situation is, indeed seem like hopeless but when I looked through the information from the transcripts I am sure that eventually everything will be change towards to Trump’s victory. And that leads to reveal the “man behind the curtain.”
Just wait and see!

June 14th 2014

Q: (L) Okay, so let's ask the obvious question: Why are they controlled and being driven to act in these warmongering ways?

A: Cosmic justice is coming.

Q: (L) Alright then. Um...

A: They feel it like the hound of hell

A: As the changes approach, they feel the pressure but do not understand what it is. They only feel an insatiable hunger and fear that they will be left with nothing. Thus the drive to grab and destroy.

Q: (Pierre) So there's a kind of feedback loop. Those leaders feel the earth changes growing, so they become even more destructive, which in turn increases the cosmic reaction

December 29th 2009

A: We once said that 4D STS will become desperate for control as the changes approach. They perceive that control is being undermined thus making them more desperate.

Q: (L) What's undermining their control?

A: Why you, yes! Collectively, that is.

Q: (Allen) So we do it by things that we're publishing, or just by being who we're being and working on things for ourselves?

A: All and more coming down the creativity pipeline.

Q: (L) Could it be said that what we're doing is actually inducing these controlling actions?

A: Yes but that is actually good because it means that their desperation is being driven and they will make more mistakes and turn the masses against them sooner

October, 22 1994

Q: (L) How can you be so sure it will fail?

A: Because we see it. We are able to see all, not just what we want to see. Their failing is that they see only what they want to see. In other words, it's the highest manifestation possible of that which you would refer to as wishful thinking. And, wishful thinking represented on the fourth level of density becomes reality for that level. You know how you wishfully think? Well, it isn't quite reality for you because you are on the third level, but if you are on the fourth level and you were to perform the same function, it would indeed be your awareness of reality. Therefore they cannot see what we can see since we serve others as opposed to self, and since we are on sixth level, we can see all that is at all points as is, not as we would want it to be

November 12th 2016

(L) I know that we're gonna have a cosmic event during his presidency. The Trump of the Apocalypse. I mean, how much more obvious does it have to be?

A: Close!
.......
Q: (Joe) Is one of the main reasons that Trump and every other president who comes into power immediately goes and makes nice with Israel, has that got a lot to do with this Epstein guy and others like him who blackmail everybody? Essentially, does Israel control by blackmailing? It's not so much that Israel's our best friend, but...

A: Close. Watch closely for events that will reveal the "man behind the curtain

January 18, 2003

A: The situation looks bleak indeed. But remember the Achilles heel of STS: Wishful Thinking.

Q: In this case, how is wishful thinking going to help?

A: There will be a big miscalculation made. It will reveal the "Man behind the curtain."

Q: So, we just keep doing what we are doing. And just like Bridges, they will make a mistake and reveal themselves for what they are. Is there anything else we need to know that we haven't asked?

A: Just keep on the path. You are doing well! Goodbye.
 
GEO, you sent me a "laugh" in my last post and I laughed with you because I know I'm a little dithyrambique when it comes to Trump (I had to be seduced by his superman side lol) In reality I think that given the elites we have, in the USA as in France, Trump deserves much more of consideration and respect. Should I say the least worst of them? That seems to me to be far too harsh.
If Scottie's analysis is entirely plausible and it is reasonable to think that this may be the reality, admit that it is very difficult to uncover the true from the false. Like me, you also, thought thatTrump was going to win, even if you don't usually seem particularly optimistic. Like me, you didn't see the trap, did you? (if trap there is indeed as described by Scottie) I want you to know that I appreciate your interventions, which often give me pause for thought. Thank you for that Geo.
 
Call me a hopeless optimist, and maybe imagination is running wild but I do still hold out hope.

I keep going back to the fact that Trump is a business man and there are a number of ways of going about business, but where there is money to be had there is also the likelihood of grand con schemes. I don't know if Trump has been involved in cons, but at the level that he operates he certainly has been exposed to them and knows how to negotiate them. He's been both a very successful and unsuccessful business man and the possibility that he has been rubbing shoulders with deep state or their puppets his whole life is good.

One very large element of Deep State is business - the acquisition of property and resources for profit and gain - and that's right up Trumps alley. Where con artists are dealing with other con artists where one is trying to take the other down, there's usually also a sting that can involve very elaborate planning. Part of a sting can involve a feint where the impression is given that the opposition has won or won't be caught out, and they then relax, refocus elsewhere and get a bit too cocky in their euphoria at having seemed to prevailed and risk more.

I dunno, but with the above in mind I'm leaning towards a bold move still being up Trump's sleeve - either that or I've read or watched too many detective or spy books and movies in my youth.
 
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Yikes! I just read the Sott article of the 4 vets who were at the Capitol:


Now I understand how three people died from "medical emergencies" and why there's been no real reporting on this!

"The streets were jam-packed, of everyday people: grandmas, children, families, lawyers, doctors, people from all walks of life. This was an American crowd," said Bill.

They Were Hitting Old Men and Women

"These families moved to the interior barricades, it wasn't aggressive, just peaceful. This is where the cops came in and used overwhelming force. We were on the line with the barricade and out come the metal batons and they started hitting Trump protesters as hard as they possibly could. They were hitting old men and old women, people who for some reason brought their families to the event. I couldn't believe that there were young kids walking in this crowd, but the police were targeting the kids and hitting them with a baton across the head. It was vicious." according to Charles.

"They were regular police at this point," said Bill.

This action by police brought the crowd to a fever pitch, where they were demanding that they be treated respectfully, but instead, the police began either pepper spraying or tear-gassing the crowd. They then fought their way through four layers of barricades.

As they were storming the Capitol, "There was one guy who climbed up a tower and could oversee the entire battle, he knew exactly what to say, and he was steering people into the Capitol. It was straight out of the movie 'Enemy at the Gates' when the Soviet Commissars were shouting at people to move ahead. He was super old, this guy was clearly a combat vet. I can still hear him, 'if you don't move forward, Biden moves in!' - This guy was a real pro, and was shouting at people that "every step forward" and to "close the gaps" and that turning back was turning our backs on Trump. He said if we didn't move forward, that Pence was going to give us Biden Communism. He was 50 feet in the air and commanding the whole scene. He was telling people to pass bottled water ahead and other resources." said Charles.

I saw one older woman bleeding profusely, it looked like her eye came out of the socket.

"We could tell that the 200 riot police were being very careful to stay behind the barricades, so we thought that denying that to them would cause them to be less vicious. There were metal connectors that we grabbed and then threw back at them like javelins. That then caused the barricades to come loose and by then, people were so angry that they started beating up the cops for attacking the kids and grandmothers. There was one very obese cop in particular, he was shooting people on purpose in the eyes with pellet pepper packs that was causing horrible injuries. I saw one older woman bleeding profusely, it looked like her eye came out of the socket. We were coming for that asshole when we tore down the barricades, but later when they saw that it turned into a fair fight, they fled," said Bill.

"They tried to gas us. I've experienced tear gas before, and this wasn't normal. It smelled different, its color was different in the air, and it stung a lot more. You couldn't breathe. But what was happening was that it was just windy enough where it was kind of hitting the front line guys hard but then dissipating through the crowd and not having the intended effect," said Bill.

This was when, according to the small group, protesters started disassembling the metal barricades to protect the police.

The pandemonium of the police running away from the crowd and being attacked by some, revealed that a larger force was 'flanking' them on one side, expecting to come in and trap the large group of angry protesters whipped up by police brutality. Just then, they were hit by repeated concussion grenades or 'flash bangs' of some type that stunned them all.

"It was coordinated on all sides, the cops were hitting us with six cans of tear gas at once, and multiple grenades. They were shooting at the same time. It felt like a shooting gallery, and they were the aggressors. They were shooting into the crowd several rows back really for no reason," said Charles.

After the barricades came down and one of the last grenades exploded, "It caused me to kind of reset and wake up, and my ears are ringing and then in the sunlight, you see the Capitol right in front of you and you realize what has to happen next," said Adam.

The police were moving forward and advancing, and about to take control of the protesters.

"So we see this happening, and we realize what's about to happen, these vicious cops are about to hurt all these people and then likely arrest us all and there's no way to retreat without being trampled, so I turn to the guys around me and yell out, 'Mama didn't raise no bitch' and so we threw the barricades aside and rushed the Capitol. We had them on the run and we knew they couldn't stop us. We used the scaffolding from Biden's inauguration platform to get into the complex," said Doug.

I remember as I was watching Newsmax that day that someone was expressing outrage that a cop pepper sprayed a little girl! I really didn't get a sense of this other terrible stuff going on. And of course, those facts will not see the light of day on MSM or social media.
 
They pulled off almost the exact same thing during the major anti-Covid protest in Berlin: a (small) bunch of a fringe rightwing group protested in front of the parliament, and then tried to enter, and they almost succeeded because miraculously, it was only a few policemen there. The group is infiltrated by domestic intelligence, if not downright created by it. Then the media organized a massive shitstorm calling what happened "the Reichstag storm", even though nothing happened, and even though this fringe group was in no way connected to the organizers of the anti-Covid protests. All to slander the movement and justify persecution, obviously. Always the same silly tactics.
It's kind of an obvious move with so many versions of the same thing. Would it take much foresight to know this would happen being on Trump's team?
 
None of us have all the answers. This is a place to look at what we know so far and lay it all out. That should not be a reason for your censure.

Wait, what? What censure exactly? I believe what @Revolucionar has said is 100% accurate, namely:

Excuse me for saying so, but I’m seeing a huge amount of wishful thinking going on here. It’s been around since election day and has only been increasing in magnitude, reaching a crescendo in these last few days.

I mean, this should be a place of critical thinking and emotionally detached analysis.

Their stuff read like something I would expect from a run of the mill conspiracy nut and yet we kept hearing about their newest nonsense posts day in, day out with very little balancing comment from the people posting their garbage utterances.

It's what I called for a few pages back - an analysis of why you think what is being posted serves a purpose, as in, "what evidence do you have, personally, that any of it is anything more than wishful thinking?" The answer is none, because there is no evidence.

Besides, do I have to remind you that the US of A, the passing of which you’re currently mourning, and obviously going through all the stages of grief, NEVER existed? It’s a fairy tale. Trump was just a blip that got everyone’s hopes up, which is kind of understandable, but I think we all expect more from ourselves here.

In case one needs reminding, The five stages of grief are:
  • denial
  • anger
  • bargaining
  • depression
  • acceptance
A large majority of the global population believes the lies, and there’s very little that we can do to change that. Ou[r] job is to stay alive and anchor the frequency in case a time ever comes when enough people realign themselves with the truth or when the Cosmos decides to call it a night.

Right. Unless you are ready to get out in the streets with arms. In which, by all means, go right ahead - play the part. See how far it gets you. Self defense is one thing, but seriously, how is military rule by one guy better than another? You think it will go as smooth in reality as it does in your head?

Wishful thinking and emotional hope (G reference here) only serves to align us with the STS paradigm.
Leave it out. This world is in its death throes and another one is in its birthing pains, it’s up to us to decide which one we align with.
You mean the military that has been happily invading and bombing country after country since forever? Trump does not have the military. No way. The military is the long arm of the deep state and Trump could only get himself, and the few generals that might support him, killed. Even if he does have all this power over the military, I sure hope he never uses it. Only someone who has never felt war on their own skin can call for such a tragic turn of events. Americans have been fortunate enough so far to avoid war on their own soil, which maybe means that that’s the lesson you guys ned to learn now, though. I hope not.

As was said, the idea of what the US represents is solid and worth fighting for, but what the US actually represents is far, far removed, and much worse. We, as a country, are not the good guys. Sorry it hurts to hear that, but we aren't. We are the Empire, which has been striking back for a long time.

Not only are the posts lately an emotional reaction, but so too are the ones in response for some critical analysis. We are better than this, or so I would think. If we want to engage in wanton posting of whatever suits the mood, there's a place for that. It's called Twitter.
 
A capital policeman has reported at 10:00 am he and fellow officers were told to take the day off and go home, which he thought was odd given the massive crowd of protestors gathered to hear Trump speak at noon. Apparently this was done so that only a small contingent of officers were left on duty with orders to facilitate the Antifa infiltrators/agitators as part of the plan to smear peaceful protestors as "domestic terrorists" being directed by Trump.


 

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