2020 US Election - Let The Games Begin!

I do not agree with some here. If Trump has a military card in hand sure it's better that he uses it. Some here seems not to understand that in this case this would be for a defense purpose, to protect 80M+ US citizen who voted for someone who should have been elected since the 7th November.

I gave my opinion on this but more important, it's based on something remaining POSSIBLE. Thus, of course then that i'm still hoping that he'll do something and reverse the situation. I finally don't care if some would say that i'm wishfull thinking, because i would answer "and you, are you fearful thinking ?"

It's rather a test for our patiente and our faith here, and until we do not have/see a definitive move going in one direction or in another, we just express, on one side, our fears, and be pessimistic, and on the other side, our hopes, and remain optimistic.
 
I'm taking my talking points from Trump himself. He has not given up, just said as much through Epoch Times.

No one wants war on our soil. No one wants a totalitarian state either.

I think you're right that Trump is not insane. He would only act militarily if it was absolutely necessary, and if he had the majority of the military backing him up.

I already asked the question regarding Deep State factions/intentions. They already signaled a coup. I already asked what manner of confrontation this might entail.

None of us have all the answers. This is a place to look at what we know so far and lay it all out. That should not be a reason for your censure.
The disapproval I expressed was not aimed at evidence backed discussion, but wishful thinking exhibited many on this thread. I didn’t see any of the reports you’re referring to. Could you provide some links, please? This thread is getting a bit unwieldy.
 
Lt. General Thomas McInerney, spoke informally at the White House yesterday. He says special forces embedded in the crowd got Nancy Pelosi's laptop during the breach of the Capitol on Wednesday. He says this is why she's frantically pushing to impeach Trump. He also says that recently-publicized affidavit by that Italian IT guy is definitive evidence of foreign interference in the election.


 
Wait, what? What censure exactly? I believe what @Revolucionar has said is 100% accurate, namely:







It's what I called for a few pages back - an analysis of why you think what is being posted serves a purpose, as in, "what evidence do you have, personally, that any of it is anything more than wishful thinking?" The answer is none, because there is no evidence.



In case one needs reminding, The five stages of grief are:
  • denial
  • anger
  • bargaining
  • depression
  • acceptance


Right. Unless you are ready to get out in the streets with arms. In which, by all means, go right ahead - play the part. See how far it gets you. Self defense is one thing, but seriously, how is military rule by one guy better than another? You think it will go as smooth in reality as it does in your head?




As was said, the idea of what the US represents is solid and worth fighting for, but what the US actually represents is far, far removed, and much worse. We, as a country, are not the good guys. Sorry it hurts to hear that, but we aren't. We are the Empire, which has been striking back for a long time.

Not only are the posts lately an emotional reaction, but so too are the ones in response for some critical analysis. We are better than this, or so I would think. If we want to engage in wanton posting of whatever suits the mood, there's a place for that. It's called Twitter.
I am not emotionally attached to what I posted.

I pointed out potential outcomes. If you have a problem with that, look to your emotional attachments.
 
If you want to throw up in your mouth a little, peruse these screenshots of redditors delightedly snitching out friends and family who attended the rally to the FBI.
If this is true - It looks worse than communism times in Poland. Mostly people (if they were doing so) snitched only their neighbours.. not family. Additionally, censorship was also present. People stopped critically thinking.
Looks like programing is complete.
We should keep to the ones who can critically thinks, even if they think differently. This is how we can learn and be closer to the truth;) thanks guys, that you are here and buckle up, cause I feel that this is only the beginning of the rollercoaster! All the best!
 
I do not agree with some here. If Trump has a military card in hand sure it's better that he uses it. Some here seems not to understand that in this case this would be for a defense purpose, to protect 80M+ US citizen who voted for someone who should have been elected since the 7th November.
But that's the million dollar question: does he? Do you have proof that the military is fully on his side? And can you explain to me where, under such "organized chaos," the defense ends and offensive begins?

Yes, the rank and file are sure to follow him, but let me ask, do you live in the United States? We are a very large a spread out country, sometimes hundreds of miles between cities with literally nothing in between. Texas alone is bigger than most countries around the world. So is California, and so is Alaska, which is cut off from land from us by Canada. What are the logistics of enacting such a thing and being able to realistically protect anyone? That is why states have their own police force, peace corps, etc, that are very much separate from the army. The army cannot do it all, so it relies back on the states to protect themselves in such a situation.

I gave my opinion on this but more important, it's based on something remaining POSSIBLE. Thus, of course then that i'm still hoping that he'll do something and reverse the situation. I finally don't care if some would say that i'm wishfull thinking, because i would answer "and you, are you fearful thinking ?"

No, I'd say I'm engaged in critical thinking. Fully aware of the facts on the ground and what it entails as far as the reality of the situation. Do I have any or all of the answers? Absolutely not. But I'm not fooling myself that military action would be the best thing. Nor am I laying down and conceding defeat, or whatever. I'm pretty emotionally detached from all of this, as one will need to be to provide any help to people whatsoever.
 
Thanks, @psychegram.

My computer came with Microsoft Edge, as well as Firefox. I started using Firefox since I'd used it in the past.

.. now I'm wondering about Edge. So far so good since I was able to connect to Epoch.
You can download a portable version of Brave at this link
Portable means that it'l install in one directory without installing other things somewhere else than in the directory. This allow you to have multiple time the same browser (im using 6 variants of different browsers, among them 2x Brave in portable mode)
Chromium is another possible browser, Maxthon too is another one.
 
If you want to throw up in your mouth a little, peruse these screenshots of redditors delightedly snitching out friends and family who attended the rally to the FBI.

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It is a chilling prospect that your own kids will report to FBI for political views. They killed family values, then marriages ( i.e. families), then they killed basic gender types and now they are making your own kids kill you. Where is the limit?

These people who argue that breach of barricades into Capitol building is serious attack on democracy and constitution, where are they when Antifa planned to attack on White house very recently and destroyed the shops and buildings. There no point in arguing with these mindless zombies or hoping that they will change with logic . It is even risky with the force they are going with As Laura posted it is does seems 'The Night of Long knifes'

Starting to look like a "Night of the Long Knives" is in the cards.
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I listened to the press interview of the Tennessee speaker in the above link. They sent 4 state employees on leave because federal government mentioned that they are in investigation. Is Federal government saying that they are in investigation is good enough to put them out of work without any details? If the State Govt. can do this without asking questions, what about the businesses in these states? Private companies doesn't bother to answer as they are feared so much of Govt. by default. They will fire first and hire somebody else, end of the story.

Damn Scary situation overnight even to contemplate. Once blood is on the hand, fear of getting caught itself fuel them much more atrocities until their demise. It looks like we landed in hopeless situation overnight.

This purge of Trump's media account while still president is insulting to watch for the rest of the world. Sure, witch hunting happens all the time under different disguises. Not to this level. With what face, US can still maintain its dictates on World Reserve currency? Saudi Arabia that is sustaining US dollar status in turn for its royalty position must be rethinking of all this. We are in deep doo doo.

If they have to, the military will take over every transmission facility: every t.v. tower, cell phone network. Take it all over.

THIS IS WAR.

Trump: YOU'RE shutting ME down? Uh, no, WE'RE shutting YOU down!

You think people like Flynn and Trump are just going to give up when they have every lawful avenue to use the military to put down a coup?
This narration of "Something will become positive magically" is classic trade mark of New Age and very effective Psyop that disarms the observers/readers. Worked well in this election.
 
I am not emotionally attached to what I posted.

I pointed out potential outcomes. If you have a problem with that, look to your emotional attachments.

My "problem" is that you accused those of us asking for critical analysis of engaging in censorship, which is far from what is being asked.

Anyone who is using their brain can determine potential outcomes, and the point is that we are a network who is supposed to be analysing information, and it's not happening at the level some have come to expect from this forum. That this would be framed as "censure" as you said is worth pointing out.
 
It is a chilling prospect that your own kids will report to FBI for political views. They killed family values, then marriages ( i.e. families), then they killed basic gender types and now they are making your own kids kill you. Where is the limit?

These people who argue that breach of barricades into Capitol building is serious attack on democracy and constitution, where are they when Antifa planned to attack on White house very recently and destroyed the shops and buildings. There no point in arguing with these mindless zombies or hoping that they will change with logic . It is even risky with the force they are going with As Laura posted it is does seems 'The Night of Long knifes'


I listened to the press interview of the Tennessee speaker in the above link. They sent 4 state employees on leave because federal government mentioned that they are in investigation. Is Federal government saying that they are in investigation is good enough to put them out of work without any details? If the State Govt. can do this without asking questions, what about the businesses in these states? Private companies doesn't bother to answer as they are feared so much of Govt. by default. They will fire first and hire somebody else, end of the story.

Damn Scary situation overnight even to contemplate. Once blood is on the hand, fear of getting caught itself fuel them much more atrocities until their demise. It looks like we landed in hopeless situation overnight.

This purge of Trump's media account while still president is insulting to watch for the rest of the world. Sure, witch hunting happens all the time under different disguises. Not to this level. With what face, US can still maintain its dictates on World Reserve currency? Saudi Arabia that is sustaining US dollar status in turn for its royalty position must be rethinking of all this. We are in deep doo doo.


This narration of "Something will become positive magically" is classic trade mark of New Age and very effective Psyop that disarms the observers/readers. Worked well in this election.
Once again, I am using Trump for my talking points. He is not giving up.

Why people are getting "personal" here when we are all just trying to put out the various outcomes is beyond me. I don't understand it.

I am anything but "new agey." Give me a break.
 
But that's the million dollar question: does he? Do you have proof that the military is fully on his side? And can you explain to me where, under such "organized chaos," the defense ends and offensive begins?
It's funny because it was the first think I asked in response to a Revolutionar's previous post, but finally shorten my answer. But posted it already:
The key information we are missing is this one : does he have the army on his side ?
But my question was inversed , I was asking : do you have the proof that he does not have the hand on the army !? (and if yes, then i'll fully agree that the game is over).

In regard to US country, you seems to misunderstood what I meant : by protecting his citizen, it's more in regard to incoming totalitarism if he does nothing. I see this more globally : if Trump uses the army it's to protect the country on a whole scale.

No, I'd say I'm engaged in critical thinking. Fully aware of the facts on the ground and what it entails as far as the reality of the situation. Do I have any or all of the answers? Absolutely not. But I'm not fooling myself that military action would be the best thing. Nor am I laying down and conceding defeat, or whatever. I'm pretty emotionally detached from all of this, as one will need to be to provide any help to people whatsoever.
Who is fooling himself saying that military action would be the best thing ? By applying also critical thinking as you do, it seems obvious that when someone is in front of you and want to kill you and that you have no other option than fighting for your life, if then someone comes to you and tell you that violence is not the good option, what do you answer him ? Still a few days before we could figure out other possible scenario, but it seems that, criticaly thinking, the number of options are shortening, and as bad as it can be to use the military card, what else could be done (and still supposing he has this card in hand)

Simple question : what would be for you the BEST scenario, knonwing the actual situation at this moment ?
 

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