2020 US Election - Let The Games Begin!

[psychegram]

Trump will be speaking live in 78 minutes, i.e. at 1:30 pm EST.

Postponed to 15:15 EST.

 

[BHelmet]

The fact that you have to ask the question says everything about the state of affairs in the alternative news community, I think.

I only asked because little boxes of text can be misinterpreted without hearing vocal inflections or facial expressions and sarcasm is not always obvious. No big.

 

[Nević Nenad]

Anyone want bet some monopoly money on what it's gonna be about?

My bet is that it'll be all conciliation and 'move on', and no kraken, not even a calamari, although probably some references to understanding people's anger at a less than transparent election process.

accepted. ten thousand monopoly dollars that he will announce martial law insurrection act blablabla. If we are having fun already, so why not
Ten minutes to go.

 

[Heather]

Trump will be speaking live in 78 minutes, i.e. at 1:30 pm EST.

It got pushed back 2 hours.

This is nerve-racking!

 

[Mark7]

Insurrection vs insurrection - Kunstler.

In the dark hours of Sunday, the BigTech-government alliance showed its hand in its massive purge of the public square — which is what social media became in a nation of strip-malls, parking lots, and nonstop propaganda — shutting down all voices countering the constructed narrative-du-jour: that the Democratic Party stands for defending Americans’ liberty against a rogue president. There have been many “shots” fired so far to kick off a civil war, but that action was an artillery blast.

Remember, the Left’s playbook is to accuse their opposition of doing exactly what they are doing. And so, of course, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has launched a last-minute impeachment on grounds of the president inciting “insurrection.” By a strange coincidence, reports on as-yet-still-live web channels say that the president has actually invoked the Insurrection Act against seditionists in our government, including, perhaps, Ms. Pelosi. If it is true — and I can’t confirm it — then the nation has blundered into an epic political battle.

Some facts may suggest the truth of the situation: The Washington DC air-space was shut down for hours on Sunday afternoon, and 6000 national guard troops have been moved into the District of Columbia as well as other cities controlled by Democrats with Antifa/BLM mobs at their disposal. What does that signify? The news media couldn’t be troubled to find out. Mr. Trump is reported to be in “a safe location.” As of last week, that was Dyess Air Force Base outside Abiline, Texas. Maybe he is somewhere else now. The New York Times, WashPo and CNN would like you to think that Mr. Trump has been pounded down a rat-hole. That’s one possibility. Another possibility is that the Democratic Party is unnerved and desperate about what’s liable to come down on them in the days ahead, which resembles a colossal hammer in the sky.

Mr. Trump is still president, and you’ve probably noticed he has been president for four years to date, which ought to suggest that he holds a great deal of accumulated information about the seditionists who have been playing games with him through all those years. So, two questions might be: how much of that information describes criminal acts by his adversaries — most recently, a deeply suspicious national election based on hackable vote-tabulation computers — and what’s within the president’s power to do something about it? I guess we’ll find out.

Or, to state it a little differently, it is impossible that the president does not have barge-loads of information about the people who strove mightily to take him down for four years. At least two pillars of the Intel Community — the CIA and the FBI — have been actively and visibly working to undermine and gaslight him, but you can be sure that the president knows where the gas has been coming from, and these agencies are not the only sources of dark information in this world. Also consider that not all the employees at these agencies are on the side of sedition.

By its work this weekend, starring Jack Dorsey (Twitter), Zuck (Facebook), Tim Cook (Apple), and Jeff Bezos (Amazon and The WashPo), you know exactly what you would be getting with The Resistance taking power in the White House and Congress: unvarnished tyranny. No free speech for you! They will not permit opposing voices to be heard, especially about the janky election that elevated America’s booby-prize, Joe Biden, to the highest office in the land.

Now there’s a charismatic, charming, dynamic, in-charge guy! He’s already doing such a swell job “healing America.” For instance, his declaration Tuesday to give $30-billion to businesses run by “black, brown, and Native American entrepreneurs” (WashPo). Uh, white folks need not apply? Since when are federal disbursements explicitly race-based? What and who, exactly, comprise the committee set up to operate Joe Biden, the hypothetical, holographic President? Surely you don’t believe he’s spirit-cooking this sort of economic policy on his own down in the fabled basement.

And so, here we stand at the start of what’s liable to be a fateful week for the United States. There is a lot of chatter on the lowdown that the current president — that would be Mr. Trump, for those out there who are confused — is about to act to take down the scurvy party that enabled and condoned six months of rioting, arson, and looting in at least a dozen cities — cadres of whom may have actually instigated that incursion into the US Capitol building on Wednesday. The president appears to understand his duty to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic. He had plenty of opportunity to be a quitter from 2017 to 2021 and he hung in there, against every cockamamie operation the Deep State threw at him. Odds are he’s not quitting now.

What can we expect? Anything is possible. To those who seemingly quantify their predictions with statements like "I am 99 percent sure that..." such and such will happen... that's ok... However, did you do any actual quantitative analysis? Even if you did, you are basing your predictions on 'posterior probabilities' - to use a Bayesian reference. Therefore, new data may prove your current model inaccurate, or out of date, or at least scaled wrongly. We are dealing with systems of non-linear dynamics within systems of non-linear dynamics. Models of non-linear dynamics like the weather are quite accurate these days, but they are based on decades of data. What we have here is much more complicated and the limited, new data we have is enveloped in a "fog of war". Funny that people who are saying that the 'Insurrection act has been implemented' and other lies are still on YouTube while more careful analysis like that which was being done on Steve Bannon's War Room has been banned.

What I intuitively expect is an imminent false-flag, Trump supporters will be basically blamed for every bad thing that has ever happened throughout recorded history. What I doubt right now is that Trump will activate some aspect of the insurrection act - (would it do more harm than good?) But anything is possible and there may be possibilities that we are not even considering.

Also, I really appreciate Laura's recent input into this thread. She is the Grand Lady here and she has an uncanny ability to be right. We need your insight Laura.

What should/could we possibly do? Is there anything we can do besides parsing out the truth from the mountain of lies?

Some suggestions, feel free to object or add:

A massive general strike - they are going to make it difficult for Trump supporters to keep or gain employment anyway.

Another "Letter to Putin" - This time to ask/(beg) for advice and support.

Liquidate any investments related to Wall Street - buy gold or other precious metals, tools, and/or supplies.

Boycott Amazon, Comcast, Wal-Mart, etc.

Get active in your local communities.

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[psychegram]

It got pushed back 2 hours.

This is nerve-racking!

For me not so much. But I'm not expecting him to say or do anything remarkable at this point.

 

[Revolucionar]

So if he doesn't, no carnage? ??????
Edit: you dropped from 100 to 80 pretty quickly...

Taking into account that you are the only person to officially dislike two of my comments (I don't really care, but it's indicative of something), it seems that you have an axe to grind. I didn't drop to 80%. In my initial post I said he had nowhere near 100% of the regular soldiers, and he would have even less than that amongst the high ranking officers.

Indeed. Caesar started the civil war with a small number of very loyal legions, but was outnumbered by Pompey's forces.

For a more recent example, at the beginning of the Spanish Civil War, Franco did not have all - or even, I believe, a majority - of the Spanish military on his side.

Both Caesar and Franco also began their respective conflicts with no or greatly inferior naval support.

Historically, the generals usually side with the establishment. They tend to be political appointees.

That doesn't necessarily translate to much benefit for the establishment if a civil war breaks out. Again, the example of Spain is salient. The generals sided with the Republicans, while the captains and majors took the side of the Nationalists (with the exception of, I believe initially, two generals).

Having the generals on your side means nothing unless they are genuine strategic geniuses. Which seems unlikely in the current crop.

I think it's not a great comparison, because in the 21st century, with all the high tech gadgets like drones and comm systems, a small number of people could be able to cause very disproportionate damage. Another thing is that in this case, people aren't really forced to take sides like in those historical conflicts, which just means that most will go with the status quo, i.e. not with Trump.

 

[Heather]

For me not so much. But I'm not expecting him to say or do anything remarkable at this point.

I know, it's hard to imagine him doing anything too dramatic -- especially on Fox News.

But what will he say?

He may be focusing on the Twitter censorship, at least in part. Its illegality, possibly even unconstitutionality.

Actually, we should be looking into this: there are contracts the media has to sign with the FCC that stipulate their allowing for the president of the United States to have access to the American people through their networks. I would imagine that goes for Big Tech as well.

 

[Revolucionar]

As far as the impending Trump address goes, I hope he doesn't concede in the real sense. I hope he says that the election was stolen and he does not accept the results as legitimate and neither does he accept Biden as a legitimate president, but to make sure that ordinary Americans don't experience any more unnecessary hardship, he will step down peacefully and take on the role of the opposition.
That's the most I expect from him anyway. I'm almost completely certain there will be no proclamation of martial law or anything like that.
And pardon Assange and Snowden already, FFS!

 

[SOTTREADER]

For me not so much. But I'm not expecting him to say or do anything remarkable at this point.

He's going to bend the knee because he has no backbone when push came to shove. This is VERY sad!

Ps, I hope I'm wrong but sadly I feel Trump is going to be a footnote in history if he bends that knee.

 

[psychegram]

I think it's not a great comparison, because in the 21st century, with all the high tech gadgets like drones and comm systems, a small number of people could be able to cause very disproportionate damage. Another thing is that in this case, people aren't really forced to take sides like in those historical conflicts, which just means that most will go with the status quo, i.e. not with Trump.

No question that technology means that when/if a war happens, its tactical development will be quite distinct from previous wars. But that can cut both ways.

On the one hand, over-reliance on technology worked to the detriment of imperial forces in the Middle East, where after two decades they remain bogged down in the same countries they invaded at the outset and have not been successful in achieving the stated strategic objectives.

On the other hand, the procurement and development arms of the MIC is as corrupt and sclerotic as any other part of the American state. Weapons development programs are seen as an opportunity to extract wealth from the bottomless tax trough first and foremost, and those opportunities are controlled by entrenched interests. In concrete terms, this is how the US has ended up with the problem-plagued, still-barely-functional, and astronomically expensive boondoggle of the F-35 ... a brilliant solution to the last century's wars. Meanwhile, smaller, nimbler countries with much more limited defense budgets have put their scarcer resources into leveraging emerging technologies in much more creative ways. A clear example of this is the drone swarms the Iranians (or rather their Houthi proxies) used to attack Saudi oil infrastructure; or the highly successful surveillance drone/infantry movement tactics employed by Azerbaijan against Armenia.

Point being that technology isn't always the answer, and when it is it isn't necessarily the answer you were hoping for.

 

[psychegram]

He's going to bend the knee because he has no backbone when push came to shove. This is VERY sad!

Not to mention low-energy, and very disrespectful

When the Universe was sending us political saviours, it wasn't sending their best.

 

[Lucius]

Anyone want bet some monopoly money on what it's gonna be about?

My bet is that it'll be all conciliation and 'move on', and no kraken, not even a calamari, although probably some references to understanding people's anger at a less than transparent election process.

Oh Lol Now the link to "President Trump speaks after the Big Tech shutdown." direct - > to vaccination of Biden "live" :))) They have me... there will be no craken, no octopus or blue tie. But this is BIden.

 

[Laura]

Insurrection vs insurrection - Kunstler.


<snip>

Also, I really appreciate Laura's recent input into this thread. She is the Grand Lady here and she has an uncanny ability to be right. We need your insight Laura.

What should/could we possibly do? Is there anything we can do besides parsing out the truth from the mountain of lies?

Some suggestions, feel free to object or add:

A massive general strike - they are going to make it difficult for Trump supporters to keep or gain employment anyway.

Another "Letter to Putin" - This time to ask/(beg) for advice and support.

Liquidate any investments related to Wall Street - buy gold or other precious metals, tools, and/or supplies.

Boycott Amazon, Comcast, Wal-Mart, etc.

Get active in your local communities.

...

What we see on the outside is Trump and Melania as conciliatory peace makers... stepping back, and preparing to concede.

Why? I can think of one main reason: threats from the Deep State and an agreement to NOT toss Trump in Gitmo the instant he is no longer president; or at least not to sue him into bankruptcy.

On the other hand, if there were to be some kind of serious action against the Deep State and its minions, it would certainly be kept secret until it was executed. Such an action would actually be easiest at the inauguration where all the players would be out and about and on stage. If something like that were to happen, it would be a tremendous event.

A lot of people attribute all kinds of insights to Trump and it is true, he has many. But, his insights are mainly based on "doing business." Sure, there are a lot of psychopaths in business, but I'm not sure that Trump really groks psychopaths in a pathocracy so he may underestimate the opposition. It appears to me that they have a sort of "Night of the Long Knives" on their agenda. IF - and that is a big if - Trump actually does realize this, then he would be better served by taking some swift and decisive action for his own preservation as well as that of his family (not to mention the republic). One cannot trust the word of a psychopath if they are promising not to harm you if you just give in quietly.

But does Trump understand this?

I guess we'll see.

 

[SOTTREADER]

This is so sad. We had people like Nelson Mandela who never bent their knees, spent countless years in prison before finally delivering that victory to their country and people.

There's been so many GREAT leaders who've led by example and showed great courage but Trump is too coddled up in luxury he can't stand the thought of not being allowed to visit one of his golf courses.

He knows he has a mandate. He knows the majority voted for him, by vast numbers. He knows all these yet he's going to play this pathetic games and appease the likes of Pelosi who's turning out to be the true ruler of the US.

Very sad! I hope I'm wrong but I just don't think Trump has the backbone for it. He likes the adulation and now he's going to betray his base which is essentially the American people.

I pray I'll be eating my words after his speech... Yet another speech...