2024 US election: A Kennedy presidency? Trump again? Will it be rigged?

I think theres a good chance Harris is replaced before election day. If they do decide to keep her, they will flood the ballots right from the start. They cant afford another late victory like 2020. They are so arrogant, they may want riots and violence erupting. To have reason to clamp down even more.

There can be no half measures anymore...its close to go time. We only need 3% to make it happen. We wont have to wait long.
After the debate on September 10, when the world sees her lack of emotional maturity at the hands of Trump. I mean, she can’t answer questions under the best circumstances, combined with her insecurity, against Trump’s infallible confidence? It might be worse than Biden. Biden was mental failure. Kamala is mentally a child. Whatever will they do after they get her to stop crying?
 
I think theres a good chance Harris is replaced before election day.

Unless Harris dies in some "freak accident", there's no legal way for her to be replaced before election day. Assuming such an event were to occur, Walz automatically becomes the nominee and there's no chance they can pretend like he's a black woman, so they'll have an even harder time getting him in office than Harris.

Like it or not, they're stuck with her.

If they do decide to keep her, they will flood the ballots right from the start. They cant afford another late victory like 2020. They are so arrogant, they may want riots and violence erupting. To have reason to clamp down even more.

There can be no half measures anymore...its close to go time. We only need 3% to make it happen. We wont have to wait long.

They did rig the 2020 election from the start. The reason for the sudden spike at 2AM that we saw in 2020 was because they underestimated Trump's appeal. When it became clear they undershot how much to rig the election to make Biden win they had to resort to a more obvious form of rigging to make up the difference caused by their underestimation.

I'm betting they do the exact same thing this time around and for the same reason. They're going to rig it from the start but they'll still be forced to make an obvious move to rig the numbers once Trump pulls farther ahead than they projected. Leading to even more turmoil, chaos, and so on.

Reason I think they're still planning to keep Harris and rig the election is that they made Harris into their best shot and I just don't see TPTB taking the risk of a Trump/RFK/Gabbard presidency undoing plans that are vital to their desired future.
 
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I think theres a good chance Harris is replaced before election day. If they do decide to keep her, they will flood the ballots right from the start. They cant afford another late victory like 2020. They are so arrogant, they may want riots and violence erupting. To have reason to clamp down even more.
This sounds credible in view of events playing out in US, UK and globally. The real October Surprise that will also serve to prevent the Presidential election:

As stated in the vid, law enforcement is being used to arrest free speech dissenters in the UK and law enforcement in the US has and is being trained to do the same and worst in opposition to the people's Constitutional rights. These police persons are traitors of the highest degree. I have to think wide exposure of these plans is one way to disrupt and counter what they are planning to do. We've already experienced the first phase of their "pandemic" emergency action attack upon the populace. And we can see they are gearing up for phase two with warnings about monkeypox, West Nile virus and eastern equine encephalitis. Plus, covid's not out of the picture either. He makes a good point about the proliferation of roundabouts, too - natural choke points that can be policed to stop exit of citizens.

Since Kamala's contrived support is eroding more and more particularly after her pathetic CNN interview, maybe the Deep State realizes not having an election at all is the best bet to retain their grip on the country. The Covid emergency proved they can get away with locking down and curtailing normal functioning on any number of levels and you'd have to be deaf, dumb, and blind not to see the virus fearmongering ramping up. Certainly as before, it served to ensure Biden became President. It also ensured vast numbers of adults and children got the mRNA injections. Are they afraid their methods used previously won't fly this time and so will resort to using law enforcement to round up lockdown and vax resistors - it's not like that hasn't already been done to some degree here in the USA and full out in other countries.

If this scenario is actually in the works, can it be exposed before the trap is sprung?
 
After the debate on September 10, when the world sees her lack of emotional maturity at the hands of Trump. I mean, she can’t answer questions under the best circumstances, combined with her insecurity, against Trump’s infallible confidence? It might be worse than Biden. Biden was mental failure. Kamala is mentally a child. Whatever will they do after they get her to stop crying?
Shes totally out of her depth...at least Biden has an excuse, hes senile...Harris is a moron...with Marxist ideology...no morals or integrity....not electable nationally....no one will believe she's won, everyone knows the rigging is there in place...agree the 9/10 debate will determine their path. If she has a biden level crash and burn, they will somehow revamp this ticket....Newsom...Mikey O...Whitmer...even Killary could make a comeback.
 
"(...) pigeons (...)" wait, there's still birds left in china ?

I recently learned that China has a goal of becoming what they call an Ecological Civilization. In the midst of their impressive industrial development, they have also harkened back to their Taoist ancestors and are busily taking care of nature in their corner of Creation. Which is interesting because it disproves the bogus green agenda claim that you can only have healthy nature and a destroyed economy OR a healthy economy and destroyed nature. It the West, it's either people OR the planet. Why not aim for both? It's not perfect, as there is plenty of climate change BS and UN Agenda SDG stuff in it, but looks pretty genuine to my eye. Here's the highlights:

China launched large-scale national ecological restoration programs, such as the Three-North Shelter Forest Program in 1978, and then two of the largest conservation programs in the world: the Natural Forest Protection Project (1998) banned logging, and the Grain to Green Program (2000) incentivized afforestation. In addition, regional and local ecological restoration and afforestation projects contribute to the ‘greening’ of China. Together, these restoration and afforestation projects have greatly increased forest coverage and ecosystem carbon sequestration, and improved ecosystem services [7]. Recent satellite data (2000–17) shows that China is leading the increase in greening on Earth (25%) with forests contributing to 42% of greening in China [8].

Promoting biodiversity conservation​

While China rapidly industrialized and pursued numerous development projects, it also learned of the need to mitigate developmental impacts on biodiversity [9]. China has rolled out a number of programs to address the biodiversity issues, and the mainstreaming of biodiversity conservation has been embraced throughout all levels of government. In order to strengthen the effectiveness of its Protected Area (PA) system, which covers ∼18% of the country's land, China has initiated reforms to establish a system of protected natural areas with national parks as its mainstay. Other accomplishments include the promulgation of laws, establishment of nature reserve networks, creation of national catalogues of species, assessment of threatened status of vertebrates, higher plants and macrofungi and setting conservation priorities for them; and use of in situ and ex situ strategies to conserve genetic, species and ecosystem diversity [10]. Many threatened species such as the giant panda, Père David's deer and crested ibis have begun to recover and will likely avoid extinction.

The Ecological Conservation Redline​

A focal point of EC is a national ecological conservation system called the Ecological Conservation Redline (ECR). The ECR was first proposed in 2011, formally adopted in 2017, and the national delimitation on land is expected to be finished by 2020 while efforts to extend it into the marine realm are underway. ECR is designed to constrain human activities in areas important to maintaining national ecological security and which provide essential ecosystem services, including water and soil conservation, biodiversity maintenance, windbreaks and sand-fixation, along with ecologically fragile regions that are prone to soil erosion, desertification and salinization. ECR will expand China's protected area system to cover about 25% of China's land. The completed ECR system is expected to protect more than 95% of China's most valuable ecosystems, 100% of animal and plant habitats under state key conservation, 95% of the best natural landscape resources and 210 important river headwaters, all ecologically fragile areas and important for maintaining ecological function [11].

Fighting pollution​

China's rapid industrialization and urbanization have given rise to pollution problems that affect both human health and biodiversity. Concerted efforts have been made since 2013 to improve air, soil and water quality. The Chinese government has issued the Air Pollution Prevention and Control Action Plan, Water Pollution Prevention and Control Action Plan, and Soil Pollution Prevention and Control Action Plan, in 2013, 2015 and 2016, respectively. Specific targets by 2020 and 2030 and specific measures were adopted for each Action Plan. A target of zero growth in chemical fertilizer and pesticide use by 2020 was set in 2015. Better definition of roles and responsibilities across levels of government have improved management and coordinated implementation. With the implementation of these Action Plans, air, water and soil quality in China have improved. For example, 157 of China's 337 prefecture-level cities have met the air quality standard in 2019, and these 337 cities on average enjoy 82% of days with good air quality [12].

Implementing green development​

China has proposed a comprehensive economic-ecological production framework called ‘Gross Economic-Ecological Product Accounting’ (GEEP) in its evaluation of local governments, which will help spark an industrial transformation and shift the economy to resource-saving and recycling, renewable energy and low-carbon emissions. Another approach recently adopted is to transform ecological advantages into economic advantages. The Kubuqi Desert Eco-Economy embodies this new ecological business model. Market-based mechanisms, with cooperation between government and private enterprises, are employed to achieve sustainable development goals, including restoration of degraded land and improvement in the provision of ecological services and products.
 
well see, i guess , sounds rather a more balanced approach ( especially adding in consideration the suppressed tech ) , but recall a few years back watching some vids of a chinese city , air pollution was apocalyptic ( serpentza @ youtube , back when he still lived there ) , as so bad it was dark during the day . edit ( and also that a large part of if seems to drift into Taiwan as well )
 
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Reason I think they're still planning to keep Harris and rig the election is that they made Harris into their best shot and I just don't see TPTB taking the risk of a Trump/RFK/Gabbard presidency undoing plans that are vital to their desired future.
I'm not so sure about that. IMHO we are in that part of the end - "game" where the only rule is there are no rules. This guy sees one potential avenue that I've considered (among many others):

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"Poor Kamala Harris is the blob's wholly inadequate instrument to fend off this fate. If she continues to perform badly, the blob might not hesitate to try getting rid of her. That may be the blob's last chance of stopping the election from happening altogether. The nation has never been in the predicament of having the head of a ticket resign or die in the homestretch of an election campaign. There is no provision in the Constitution for it because there are no provisions in the Constitution for political parties per se. It would all be a kind of improv.

And then, of course, America would be stuck with the unfit and incapable "Joe Biden," heading the government, at least until something else can be worked out. Maybe that working out would just be the final stage of the coup that has been in motion, really, since 2016 when John Brennan, Barack Obama, and James Comey attempted to oust Mr. Trump with RussiaGate. Some kind of "interim commission" might be formed to "solve" the problem of the cancelled election. They'll look for someone with "proven ability" to serve as provisional president — maybe, someone who has already been president. . . say, Mr. Obama. Voila and fait accompli! If he finds himself appointed rather than elected, he would not be in defiance of the 22ndAmendment. Okay, now try re-thinking how scared Kamala Harris must be."
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I personally expect anything and everything to happen between now and November. World war, civil wars, revolutions - maximum chaos deliberately created in order to allow all things. If the rulers become sure they can't get their world-wide communist utopia through ballot box shenanigans, then I think they'll pull out every pin from every grenade they own. They are all-in at this point and really have no other recourse since so many now see them for who they truly are.

Maybe enough people will finally wake up and opt out of this madness and create something new and beautiful. Remember the C's said the future is "open". There's probably going to be a lot of unexpected twists and turns on the way there though, I would guess. Time to break out that old "Twister" game and get the joints loose again. Be ready for anything.
 
Since Kamala's contrived support is eroding more and more particularly after her pathetic CNN interview, maybe the Deep State realizes not having an election at all is the best bet to retain their grip on the country.

The chance they'll pull a Ukraine and suspend the election is near zero as there's no need. They're still capable of rigging the election so the situation isn't so dire as to require an overt move like cancelling the election. Especially when doing so would open the door for Trump to make a legitimate attempt at an actual insurrection. Which there's no guarantee he'd lose if he tried. Better to stick to means by which one already knows they can control the outcome.

The more strategic move is to have Trump lose yet again and use that loss to take all the wind out of the MAGA sail. Then once MAGA falters they can try bringing the Republican party back into line. Not that it's likely to work but they could try.

Certainly as before, it served to ensure Biden became President. It also ensured vast numbers of adults and children got the mRNA injections. Are they afraid their methods used previously won't fly this time and so will resort to using law enforcement to round up lockdown and vax resistors - it's not like that hasn't already been done to some degree here in the USA and full out in other countries.

If this scenario is actually in the works, can it be exposed before the trap is sprung?

I don't think they're going to release disease X until after the election. They need Harris and Biden's reign to seem to have the mandate from heaven with no major pandemics that could mar the image of joy they're using for Harris' campaign.

Shes totally out of her depth...at least Biden has an excuse, hes senile...Harris is a moron...with Marxist ideology...no morals or integrity....not electable nationally....no one will believe she's won, everyone knows the rigging is there in place...agree the 9/10 debate will determine their path. If she has a biden level crash and burn, they will somehow revamp this ticket....Newsom...Mikey O...Whitmer...even Killary could make a comeback.

Harris won't have a Biden level crash and burn because she can actually speak and the media will run interference for her. Only reason Biden crashed like he did was because the controllers wanted him out.

They've chosen Harris and they're sticking with her.

I'm not so sure about that. IMHO we are in that part of the end - "game" where the only rule is there are no rules.

There are always rules. Even now the games they play have rules.

We are sure to be surprised before the year is out but I don't think it'll have anything to do with removing Harris or stopping the election. They need the veneer of legitimacy of an election, even if it's just as blatantly stolen, in order for their plans to have a chance.

This guy sees one potential avenue that I've considered (among many others):

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"Poor Kamala Harris is the blob's wholly inadequate instrument to fend off this fate. If she continues to perform badly, the blob might not hesitate to try getting rid of her. That may be the blob's last chance of stopping the election from happening altogether. The nation has never been in the predicament of having the head of a ticket resign or die in the homestretch of an election campaign. There is no provision in the Constitution for it because there are no provisions in the Constitution for political parties per se. It would all be a kind of improv.

And then, of course, America would be stuck with the unfit and incapable "Joe Biden," heading the government, at least until something else can be worked out. Maybe that working out would just be the final stage of the coup that has been in motion, really, since 2016 when John Brennan, Barack Obama, and James Comey attempted to oust Mr. Trump with RussiaGate. Some kind of "interim commission" might be formed to "solve" the problem of the cancelled election. They'll look for someone with "proven ability" to serve as provisional president — maybe, someone who has already been president. . . say, Mr. Obama. Voila and fait accompli! If he finds himself appointed rather than elected, he would not be in defiance of the 22ndAmendment. Okay, now try re-thinking how scared Kamala Harris must be."
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For the past four years they've had a walking corpse pretend to run the country, so actual ability doesn't much matter. They rigged both the 2016 and 2020 elections against Trump and none of the reforms necessary to prevent such a thing from happening again have been implemented so there's nothing stopping them from doing it again.

I personally expect anything and everything to happen between now and November. World war, civil wars, revolutions - maximum chaos deliberately created in order to allow all things. If the rulers become sure they can't get their world-wide communist utopia through ballot box shenanigans, then I think they'll pull out every pin from every grenade they own. They are all-in at this point and really have no other recourse since so many now see them for who they truly are.

But, again, there's been no reforms to prevent the election rigging we saw in 2016 and 2020 so there's no reason to suspect that they can't or won't rig the 2024 election in the same way. They also need to be able to give their agendas an appearance of legitimacy in order for those plans to avoid outright rejection from the populace.

Maybe enough people will finally wake up and opt out of this madness and create something new and beautiful. Remember the C's said the future is "open". There's probably going to be a lot of unexpected twists and turns on the way there though, I would guess. Time to break out that old "Twister" game and get the joints loose again. Be ready for anything.

I agree that there's likely to be much more suffering ahead before any kind of new reality can take shape and that we should be prepared mentally, economically, physically, spiritually, emotionally, socially, and so on for anything until that time.

I'm just not seeing anything that convinces me the PTB can't or won't rig the election like they did last time and use Harris as a puppet with the media running interference like they've been doing the past four years.
 
I'm just not seeing anything that convinces me the PTB can't or won't rig the election like they did last time
I think it depends on how much their election rigging relied on the covid mail-in ballots. The current attempt at "mpox" hysteria again just before the election suggests that they want to play that card again.

There is also the question whether Trump made some sort of deal with the PTB this time. His closeness with the Blackrock and JP Morgan CEOs, in addition to Musk, may be a sign that at least parts of the deep state may be okay with him.

Both RFK jr and Tulsi also seem to be controlled to some degree, not just by the Zionist lobby. The seemingly amateurish attempt on Trump's life seems to have come not from the very top of the PTB, but one of the lower layers.
 
Another reveal on Harris (and a possible alternative outcome of the election)



Lex Fridman interviews Donald Trump.

0:00 - Introduction
1:09 - Psychology of winning and losing
3:51 - Politics is a dirty game
5:28 - Business vs politics
8:04 - War in Ukraine
9:53 - Kamala Harris interview on CNN
10:36 - Trump-Harris debate
13:33 - China
15:47 - 2020 election
24:03 - Project 2025
24:52 - Marijuana
27:13 - Joe Rogan
30:54 - Division
41:36 - Power
43:36 - UFOs & JFK
44:16 - Jeffrey Epstein
45:55 - Mortality and religion

47:25 - Lex AMA

Meanwhile:
 
I'm just not seeing anything that convinces me the PTB can't or won't rig the election like they did last time and use Harris as a puppet with the media running interference like they've been doing the past four years.
Same here, although... do you think it would be more outrageous this time? that is the sense I am getting this time around, last time Trump did not have the momentum he has right now, so there was a plausibility to the rigging that I am not sure they have this time around.
 
Same here, although... do you think it would be more outrageous this time? that is the sense I am getting this time around, last time Trump did not have the momentum he has right now, so there was a plausibility to the rigging that I am not sure they have this time around.
LOL, the sense I get: (from Treasure of the Sierra Madre) “Plausibility? Plausibility?!! We don’t need no stinking plausibility! Ja Ja Ja.”
 
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