2024 US election: A Kennedy presidency? Trump again? Will it be rigged?
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Debra
The Living Force
Knowledge is important, and part of that may be gained by wanting, trying to help, etc, and seeing what happens. Life experience in 3rd density STS. Knowledge may also mean developing additional 'moral taste buds' as one matures. I am reminded of the saying about first removing the mote from one's own eye so that one can see better to remove the mote from another's eye.
About the moral taste buds - it seems like the article explains that liberals/conservatives not only favor certain ones over others, but also apply them to different things. I don't think they're fully unaware of how the other expresses their morals, they just don't prioritize those things. It's like the abortion debate. Both sides generally understand, on the surface, what the other side cares about. But they can't put themselves in their shoes to try to really understand it viscerally. You may still ultimately pick one or the other, but you at least would stop acting like the other side simply wants to "kill babies" or "hates women's bodily autonomy" which mischaracterizes their concern. It would at least allow a conversation to happen, instead of just yelling over each other. But the benefits of sincerely putting oneself in someone else's shoes is gaining knowledge of their perspective. It may or may not be a flawed perspective, but you can't decide that without understanding it fully first, and you'd at least understand where they're coming from and why they got their panties in a bunch over it.
And I agree about the mote - I can imagine myself being a leftie for example. I used to watch John Steward make fun of Bush Jr back in the day, and had I never found SOTT and Cass, who knows, maybe I could've found myself sliding more left if I wasn't paying attention to the rug being pulled under my feet. A lot of things had to happen and come together "just right" for me to even be on this forum today. So in that sense I'm very lucky that I found material and a community that kept me "sane", or moving in that direction anyway.
But still - I have so many things I know I should be doing better and more often that I struggle with. It's easy to say oh look at those libtards crying, but it's harder to say "where am I being unreasonable or stubborn or blind in my life right now" that might frustrate someone who is a few steps above me and sees me waste my potential the same way I get frustrated with others?
I said earlier in the thread that that I feel frustrated that the leftists are such easy tools of the PTB and refuse to wake up and end up dragging the rest of us into their mess. But honestly, I can be just as frustrated with myself if I do an accounting of all the things I'm not doing that I know I could and should be. So maybe part of the lesson here, besides working to improve those things in myself, is to not feel so frustrated or beat myself up either.
I can understand and be at peace with why someone else is falling for some propaganda that I can see through, and accept that they're simply doing the best they can given their current understanding. If they knew better, they'd do better (maybe). I don't have to be frustrated that someone else isn't living up to my expectations of them. Everyone is doing "what's in them to do" to the best of their knowledge and ability at the moment. How could I expect anything else?
And I could maybe forgive myself, or be less frustrated with myself for not living up to my own expectations. Otherwise I might as well be frustrated with half the universe for being STS while I'm at it. And I doubt 4D STO, who are many steps above us, are looking at all of us in frustration because we all could theoretically be doing more. And 6D is looking at 4D being frustrated with their lack of progress too, and so on. It's just a chain of frustration all the way up, and it would be silly if that was the case.
So maybe it is a balancing act of seeing the evil in the world, seeing the "lack" in oneself, and somehow being more or less at peace with it all by understanding why things are the way they are. But not quite so much at peace that you don't keep pushing yourself upward to improve, or striving for a better world at the same time. Too much peace doesn't seem conducive to putting in effort to grow.
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This is how I am feeling tonight.
How could Trump win the election?
So many people were fed up with the corrupt Western Empire blob.
They recognized that Trump, and his team, were standing up to it.
Trump & co are not angels, but quite imperfect people with flaws and blind spots (and some quite severe blind spots!).
That is pretty much like normal people.
But they looked into the face of evil, and did not back down.
I think it is ok to savor this moment, a small useful step in the right direction.
There are still very tough days ahead.
Be strong, vigilant, and eyes wide open.
How could Trump win the election?
So many people were fed up with the corrupt Western Empire blob.
They recognized that Trump, and his team, were standing up to it.
Trump & co are not angels, but quite imperfect people with flaws and blind spots (and some quite severe blind spots!).
That is pretty much like normal people.
But they looked into the face of evil, and did not back down.
I think it is ok to savor this moment, a small useful step in the right direction.
There are still very tough days ahead.
Be strong, vigilant, and eyes wide open.
I'd still caution that Trump and his super team (plus all patriotic Americans) will need to come to Terms with multipolarity.
The truth is Americas dominance on the world stage and monopoly on global governance will continue to be challenged. The question is, will Trump (plus patriotic Americans) accept a world where there are multiple poles of power as opposed to just the one?
China and Russia aren't going anywhere!
Vance has spoken about the need to change American foreign policy to address this issue, so they're aware and looking to adapt!
The second clip is from the Vance's interview with Tim Dillon. I'm sharing that interview starting just a few minutes before the above clip because the lead up to it really drives home how Vance sees and understands the Deep State Uniparty that runs the US.
I very much agree - yesterday I felt as though I had awakened to a new world, cautiously optimistic, and knowing the perils that lie ahead. But I am basking in the feeling that a giant boot of oppression has been thrown asunder.
It has occurred to me that the 'balancing' that the C's said the Quorum program change was meant to do may result from the 'Blob's' reaction to this - while they will attempt to thwart the changes, that in its turn will cause more resistance. And, judging from the reaction of people in other countries, I suspect the PTB in various countries are planning something nefarious as they are no doubt terrified that their populations are going to get 'uppity ideas' in response to Trump's win. Which of course will anger the populace even more, thus resulting in more resistance! Things are going to get really interesting in the months to come! We have our work cut out for us!!
Ketone Cop
Jedi Council Member
I'm sorry for not checking in on this thread for some time.
I've related here some of my discussions with my mother, who is a die-hard Democrat who hates Trump with a passion.
Since the election results became available showing that Trump won, she told my brother she was quitting her job with him and cut off all communications with him and me except via e-mail - even though doing so could result in her losing her home and her car with the loss of income.
I've just sent a message to her reminding her that what really matters is our shared common humanity, and to let go of all the crap that TV programmed her to believe over the last dozen years (which is all she does now with her time as she is almost completely immobile).
No word since. I'm starting to wonder if this is one of the "soul-smashing" events the C's talked about, and if this is the suffering Pierre saw coming from his 5D perch in the latest session. There's also this:
This election certainly smashed a lot of souls on it's own.
I've simply shared with my mom my thoughts on humanity having to decide to come together in communal love and a recognition of our shared humanitarian values that can continue our species...or, let your own misplaced emotions that caused you to forgo reason lead you over the cliff like a lemming. She's chosen the latter.
I pray that no one else here has to deal with what I and my brother am right now - or that if you are, that you have enough spiritual guidance to help. That's my path at the moment.
I've related here some of my discussions with my mother, who is a die-hard Democrat who hates Trump with a passion.
Since the election results became available showing that Trump won, she told my brother she was quitting her job with him and cut off all communications with him and me except via e-mail - even though doing so could result in her losing her home and her car with the loss of income.
I've just sent a message to her reminding her that what really matters is our shared common humanity, and to let go of all the crap that TV programmed her to believe over the last dozen years (which is all she does now with her time as she is almost completely immobile).
No word since. I'm starting to wonder if this is one of the "soul-smashing" events the C's talked about, and if this is the suffering Pierre saw coming from his 5D perch in the latest session. There's also this:
This election certainly smashed a lot of souls on it's own.
I've simply shared with my mom my thoughts on humanity having to decide to come together in communal love and a recognition of our shared humanitarian values that can continue our species...or, let your own misplaced emotions that caused you to forgo reason lead you over the cliff like a lemming. She's chosen the latter.
I pray that no one else here has to deal with what I and my brother am right now - or that if you are, that you have enough spiritual guidance to help. That's my path at the moment.
ApotheosisMMC.
Jedi Council Member
I think that in part it may be simpler and it was not before because the tiredness and difficulties of life were not enough yet, but it is increasingly more difficult to even aspire to have a house of one's own and to form sustainable families, to say something basic and notorious, and it is also in recent times that totalitarian agendas and their different forms of control are taking their toll on mental and physical health, all this led to people (normal people included) aspiring to more social policies that seek to ease day to day living, then came the next phase where these policies became mere slogans, to degenerate into things that the normal population would not accept as moral and the progressive branches infected with individuals related to ideologies that focus on minorities and environmental issues left the problems of the bulk of the mass of individuals in the background, I saw enough democrats with enough brains or capacity to see the current situation even in part; accepting defeat and calling for reform of the democratic party, they don't talk about abandoning the current minority-centered policies, but about not forgetting those that help the majority of the population, it is stupidly obvious that this would happen and they would lose, they proclaim.
But continuing because the root of the current suffering is not identified, the population after suffering at the hands of the "left" has shown rejection and returned to the "vile right" that was only interested in the money of the rich, maybe it is not so after all, individuals tell themselves, maybe it is so to a certain extent, but we can accept that certain individuals become rich as long as the economy improves again and our quality of life improves, it is not a perfect model, but it works better than the dysfunctional left... plus it will improve security and the immigration problem!
Of course this is still a simplification and since threats and the perception of fear have not been reduced, people in their limited black and white thinking tend to polarize (obviously many still believe in the lies of the radical left and have strengthened themselves in that pole) others have moved to the right, the interesting thing, although it remains to be seen if it happens in the short or long term is when the right undergoes a change due to a similar infestation process and acts with totalitarian measures in pursuit of protection and survival, at the present time there seems to be a greater interest in increasing and respecting true freedom, but as we know traps can be set to put pressure on power and end up cutting back on freedoms. Let's not forget about the
climate either, it should worsen considerably, I will not go into this point any further because you already know that it is possible that before people know the truth about this business, it can be used to blame the "climate change deniers", even so if it is known before the deception, perhaps sufficient policies will be taken to do more than stop something impossible, help people survive without resorting to resource rationing and psychopathic carbon footprint policies.
Ps: regarding the conversation you had with SD about helping without being disappointed, I can say briefly (I may end up going on too long) that in my experience in a general way without paying attention to each specific case, is that you should not help intensively individuals who are immersed in excessive self-pity or whose words sound loaded with emotional dilemmas and excessive gratitude towards you at the same time that their life is a disaster, I think that what works well in a general way is that they start with the basics in terms of ordering their life and observe how they evolve in this, see how their relapses are and if they manage to handle basic things better like money, but above that see if they have a spirit-vision of wanting to continue learning and improving genuinely instead of talking to you ONLY to hang out and feel good or to have someone to socialize with due to their state of loneliness without having a genuine interest deep down as I said in changing or rather leading their life to the service of others (often They may talk to you about helping their families, but they won't go beyond that level without saying that this is bad of course).
As for talking about "deeper things" it should be words dosed in small doses and closer to their reality so as not to overwhelm them, keep in mind that individuals who are too broken need a lot of dedication, so even if you can have them close you run a certain risk of doing work in vain... watch how they move, it's normal for it to be slow at first, but if it's too slow and the little that comes out of them after a while is empty cordiality and a degree of submission in speech just as empty, most likely you will only suffer a drain of energy, life will continue sending you individuals who will disappoint you until you improve your internal radar, also notice if that individual you "help" makes you move forward, when they are really advancing, your advance should also be more accentuated to the level that you notice a relatively marked difference compared to previous experiences.
Just a note that that video is from 2023 or thereabouts.
Trump as a person is much less important to me than the seed he has sown. He brought the light and, through his actions, made it possible for the darkness and evil to be illuminated for all to see. I was very touched by the strength with which he resisted, how great his courage and will was to plant this seed in all citizens. Now the individual is responsible for how this seed works and changes them. People are much less important than the messages they convey. Maybe Trump will not live to see his inauguration, maybe the dark forces will try to open the gates of hell. But the spiritual seed that has been sown here can no longer be eradicated.
It was very moving for me to hear his supporters spontaneously sing the song “How great thou art” at the rally after the election.
It is much less about what we see - what is important is what we feel and I felt great gratitude, awe, hope and love during this song.
Oh Lord, my God
When I, in awesome wonder
Consider all the worlds Thy hands have made
I see the stars, I hear the rolling thunder
Thy power throughout the universe displayed
Then sings my soul, my Savior God to Thee
How great Thou art, how great Thou art
Then sings my soul, my Savior God to Thee
How great Thou art, how great Thou art
When Christ shall come, with shout of acclamation
And take me home, what joy shall fill my heart
Then I shall bow, in humble adoration
And then proclaim, my God, how great Thou art
Then sings my soul, my Savior God to Thee
How great Thou art, how great Thou art
Then sings my soul, my Savior God to Thee
How great Thou art, how great Thou art
And when I think that God, His Son not sparing
Sent Him to die, I scarce can take it in
That on the cross, my burden gladly bearing
He bled and died to take away my sin
Then sings my soul, my Savior God to Thee
How great Thou art, how great Thou art
Then sings my soul, my Savior God to Thee
How great Thou art, how great Thou art
How great Thou art, how great Thou art
Just to note that the 'Deep State' talking points at every 'press conference' and appearances of Kamala, Biden etc. that I've seen so far, they are stressing and emphasizing 'peaceful tranfer of power', 'respect for the new administration' and especially 'the will of the people/the people have spoken'.
Maybe they're just covering their own ***es, trying to appear righteous and honest. However, these talking points usually have a (pathological) strategy behind them, so who knows, maybe they're 'setting the scene' for the next PSYOP.
Maybe they're just covering their own ***es, trying to appear righteous and honest. However, these talking points usually have a (pathological) strategy behind them, so who knows, maybe they're 'setting the scene' for the next PSYOP.
Esote
Dagobah Resident
Would you mean that this is a one way thinking forum ?
