AndThe authentic crop circles have been always much more abstract
Trying to answer the question, I looked for sources and Crop Circles The greatest mysteries of modern times by Lucy Pringle, has some silhouette images of circles from the early years before the Cs came online in 1994.When you say, "have always been more abstract". Is there any evidence for this claim if one reviews the history of crop circles, going back to the ones from the 1980s- 90s and even before?
Crop circle artist quits after alien fanatics drag sick patients to them for cure
Dene Hine, 49, has a talent for carving stunning designs into farmers' fields but he's now thrown in the towel after growing sick of the amount of people convinced it's the work of aliens
He has created about 100 crop circles using planks of wood and a surveyor’s laser. Dene, of Glastonbury, Somerset, said: “Someone wrote a book about how crop circles can heal people and that’s when it started getting a bit weird.
Interesting that the paper will publish this without asking why this dude was never put before a court and asked about his use of planks of wood in farmer fields? Or never had to leave the act half done?Dene added: “There are some people pretending to be researchers who push the mystery and then sell pictures, books and give talks all over the world. There was a couple of these researchers who were stealing my artwork.”
Another reason for Dene quitting is that he’s getting fewer commissions due to farmers feeling the pinch. Dene’s designs could be seen on Google Earth and have drawn visitors from around the world.
June 24th 2022 Session
Q: (L) Okay, so was this crop circle that appeared that looked like it was shaped kind of like the Cassiopaea star formation, was it genuine or was it man-made?
A: Genuine! It was us sending message. Playing field will be leveled soon.
…………………
A: Nothing lasts forever.
August 17th 2024 Session
A: By design. STS sources can be "starkly accurate" when it suits their agenda.
June 11th 2011 Session
Q: (L) ………. What size is Comet Elenin?
A: 5km on the short axis and close to 10 on the long axis.
Q: (L) What I did is I messed it up when they were trying to do 5 by 10………. "Why have this year's crop circles been so lame?" ……………..
A: 6D has begun to withdraw from the fray.
Q: (L) Well, what do you mean by, "withdraw from the fray"?
A: As we have pointed out before, the crop circles were an almanac. The last page is soon to turn.
October 16, 1994 Session
Q: (L) The other parts of chapter 13... Verse one says, “I stood on the sandy beach I saw a beast coming up out of the sea with ten horns and seven heads. On his horns he had ten royal crowns and blasphemous titles on his heads...” What does this verse mean?
A: Many meanings. Monetary control. 10 represents universal control of whole units of value.
…………………
A: You are slipping a bit. Refer to Literature “Bringers of the Dawn”. Challenge will be ecstasy if viewed with proper perspective which is not, we repeat: not of third level reality, understand?
August 9, 1997 Session
A: See Bible, “Lucid” book, Matrix Material, “Bringers of the Dawn,” and many other sources, then cross
reference...
…………………
Bringers of the Dawn, B Marciniak
The five-sided figure represents the figure of the human being in its most unlimited state —the totally free human…………………… It is the human being able to fly, which is something that a large majority of you do not think you can do.
August 17, 1996 Session
Q: (L) Do the tetrahedrons spin within the sphere? Do these power points of the tetrahedron spin?
A: Energy fields flow in balance.
…………………
(T) Is there………. a direct relationship here to the real Hebrew Star of David, to these tetrahedrals?
A: Yes.
…………………
Q: (T) It describes a physics that transcends the densities.
A: So is pentagon.
August 8, 1998 Session
A: …………..Why is the “pentagon” a pentagon?
…………………
A: Answers are within your grasp.
…………………
(L) What is the connection between the pentagon and hexagon?
A: Discover.
August 22, 1998 Session
Q: (L) I want to ask if you ever told us to do something with a Tesla coil which I failed to record or got lost somewhere?
A: Maybe. Gravity waves, pentagon is the foundation; hexagon is the conclusion.
February 5, 2000 Session
A: Remember, you do have cycles but that does not necessarily mean cyclical. 3 Dimensional depiction of loop, seek hexagon for more. Geometric theory provides answers for key. Look to stellar windows. Octaon, hexagon, pentagon.
May 27, 2000 Session
A: Ark, are neutrinos related to the concept of a bridge into pure energy in some way?
…………………
(A) Are neutrinos the fundamental building blocks of everything? The most fundamental particle, so to speak?
A: More like a midpoint with spherical outward expansive quality. Tetrahedron, pentagon, hexagon.
July 4th 2020 Session
A: Tetrahedron in 3D is what in 4D?
…………………
A: Lethbridge.
Q: (Pierre) Coral castle.
…………………
(Gaby) I think it was pentagons that he drew in 3rd density, and that was triangles in 4th density.
A: Yes
…………………
A: Double tetrahedron in 3D is hexagon in 4D.
Martyrology of Oengus Culdee by W. Stokes
In a little boat, from the
east, over the pure-coloured
sea, my Domnoc brought
—vigorous cry!— the gifted race
of Ireland's bees.
…………………
The feast of Mark who
has been crowned: my Maedóc
great and treasurous: my
Domnoc, a triumphant diadem:
the feast of Bran the Little,
from Cláined.
Hard to say how it works; these people are getting into something that makes it possible for someone else to knock them over, or try to. Anyway, by Steve and Karen Alexander, there is Crop Circles, Signs, Wonders and Mysteries, Arcturus Publishing 2006, though the edition where the images are from, has 2014. In it they have ordered some of the themes according to geometric appearance. Below are a few examples, mostly about pentagrams, but the first one has a simple design. (It was hard to take images because book pages fold.)This wordpress page, is dedicated, it seems, to taking down Steve and Karen Alexander who have take many photos of crop circles and published books.
Sept. 14, 2002 Session
Q: (Atriedes) ……….. I'm talking about when STO creates a crop circle do they have a physical...
A: Real crop circles represent thoughts from 6th density unified thought realm.
Q: (Atriedes) Okay, and so that's why they don't disrupt the growth; because they're using thought forms as opposed to STS technology, either the 3D or 4D or what not. Have any crop circles been made by 4th density STS directly?
A: Very few and quite ineptly up to this point.
November 2, 1994 Session
Q: (L) Who or what group is responsible for crop circles?
A: Us. You bet.
Q: (L) What is the purpose of the crop circles?
A: Messages to world. All.
Q: (L) Do these crop circles mean an idea, an energy, a concept; how do they transmit messages?
A: Translate; it can be done.
…………………………….
Q: (L) Well, that is all the pictures I have...
A: Need more soon.
Q: (L) In the Library?
A: Maybe. This is of the utmost importance.
December 3, 1994 Session
Q: (V) Has there ever been a crop circle that looks like this? It looks like one I saw.
A: Precisely. All are interrelated.
July 8, 1995 Session
(T) ………..But what does a crop circle look like in fourth density?
A: “Look” is not point.
Q: (L) What is the point?
A: You need visual stimuli in order to remember.
July 8, 1995 Session
Q: (L) Why crop circles?
A: The answers to all the questions are, or will be there.
Now… indeed, on 2011 the C’s stated that their almanac of cropcircles was finishing. Well, maybe then another phase could come afterwards? Well… As per definition an almanac is a calendar in particular focusing on lunar phases for a farmer’s use. And later they told us:June 24th 2022 Session
Q: (L) Okay, so was this crop circle that appeared that looked like it was shaped kind of like the Cassiopaea star formation, was it genuine or was it man-made?
A: Genuine! It was us sending message. Playing field will be leveled soon.
…………………
A: Nothing lasts forever.
Anyway, it is not really necessary that all cropcircles must be made by 6th density. Useful informative cropcircles can be made by STO 4D, or even by STS 3D since they follow a STO orientation. Indeed, remember, the members of this forum are told of STS polarity but with supposedly a STO orientation. So, under sto orientation and filled with knowledge, any of us hypothetically could spread deep information either by way of cropcircles or whatsoever. Moreover even STS 4D cropcircles targeted for “mudding” the waters should bring mixed in it some information, or else nobody would pay attention to them. The question again is, is one capable of unravel the information from the weed?August 17th 2024 Session
A: By design. STS sources can be "starkly accurate" when it suits their agenda.
June 11th 2011 Session
Q: (L) ………. What size is Comet Elenin?
A: 5km on the short axis and close to 10 on the long axis.
Q: (L) What I did is I messed it up when they were trying to do 5 by 10………. "Why have this year's crop circles been so lame?" ……………..
A: 6D has begun to withdraw from the fray.
Q: (L) Well, what do you mean by, "withdraw from the fray"?
A: As we have pointed out before, the crop circles were an almanac. The last page is soon to turn.
Now, most of the posts seen in this thread seem to have relevant comments. And so, at this point would be possible we sorting and aggregating these relevancies like some posts already meant in this thread, nevertheless this time thinking out of the box? So, trying to use this voiced intention follow some suggestions for meditation or contemplation:
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Meander, Greek designsee middle image at the top
The word “meander” —i.e. the “Greek” border as seen in the July 20th 2025 cropcircle— really derives from the mythological river Meander, son of the Greek god Oceanus. A river, by the way, that used to be called “Returner.” The thing is, studying the myth (e.g. see Plutarch) may bring much more insights, but still we can see next a little more on this.
So, furthermore… did someone notice the “Celtic cropcircle” at the top of this post?!! Well... notably many Pictish stones bring the meander as a common motif. A particular interesting stone —for it kind of works like a Rosetta Stone to many other mysterious Celtic carvings— is that originaly from St Madoes parish church, now in the museum of Perthshire and alleged c. 8th century AD.
Then, as seen above, the ancient Celtic cross shows at its center 13 circular spirals —one central and 12 around it, in turn all within a square. The cross is surrounded by 8 living animals. Now, remember, directions are optional. Anyway… in the vertical axis there are 2 sets —short upper part and down in the longer part— with many meanders of which most are squared “Greek-like”, and a few with triangular shape. Maybe the 2 sets (up and down) could be regarded as one mirroring the other? Or even stretching this stuff a bit: and if each of these 2 parts represents a different density? Which densities? See?
Then regarding the horizontal axis: right and left (or east-west), we see 5 intertwined “curved meanders.” So, together right and left we have 10 entangled “curved meanders”. So what? Here follow some possibilities: the 13 spirals may denote a lunar aspect as earlier mentioned for another supposedly related cropcircle:
Right. See, the 5 entangled meanders within the Celtic cross may perhaps relate to the 5 pointed star, i.e. Isthar/Venus, like some posts have insisted on… However other option, instead of the mesmerizing “star shape,” could be the numeral 5 linked to a pentagon? So, 10 “curved meanders” could symbolize 2 pentagons? Is “5” the number of man?
But then we can see 10 horns in the right above cropcircle, yes? Well, is it not only featuring the power over mankind, but also something else? See?!!October 16, 1994 Session
Q: (L) The other parts of chapter 13... Verse one says, “I stood on the sandy beach I saw a beast coming up out of the sea with ten horns and seven heads. On his horns he had ten royal crowns and blasphemous titles on his heads...” What does this verse mean?
A: Many meanings. Monetary control. 10 represents universal control of whole units of value.
…………………
A: You are slipping a bit. Refer to Literature “Bringers of the Dawn”. Challenge will be ecstasy if viewed with proper perspective which is not, we repeat: not of third level reality, understand?
August 9, 1997 Session
A: See Bible, “Lucid” book, Matrix Material, “Bringers of the Dawn,” and many other sources, then cross reference...
…………………
Bringers of the Dawn, B Marciniak
The five-sided figure represents the figure of the human being in its most unlimited state —the totally free human…………………… It is the human being able to fly, which is something that a large majority of you do not think you can do.
Anyway, still in the “cross” notice how all of the here drawn looks interlaced around the center; so again we have an notable aspect seen in the Falkner cropcircle. Ah, research also for specific oriental sculptures —like “prayer-wheels”— the “Greek” meanders are over there as well. Then back to the pentagons:August 17, 1996 Session
Q: (L) Do the tetrahedrons spin within the sphere? Do these power points of the tetrahedron spin?
A: Energy fields flow in balance.
…………………
(T) Is there………. a direct relationship here to the real Hebrew Star of David, to these tetrahedrals?
A: Yes.
…………………
Q: (T) It describes a physics that transcends the densities.
A: So is pentagon.
August 8, 1998 Session
A: …………..Why is the “pentagon” a pentagon?
…………………
A: Answers are within your grasp.
…………………
(L) What is the connection between the pentagon and hexagon?
A: Discover.
August 22, 1998 Session
Q: (L) I want to ask if you ever told us to do something with a Tesla coil which I failed to record or got lost somewhere?
A: Maybe. Gravity waves, pentagon is the foundation; hexagon is the conclusion.
February 5, 2000 Session
A: Remember, you do have cycles but that does not necessarily mean cyclical. 3 Dimensional depiction of loop, seek hexagon for more. Geometric theory provides answers for key. Look to stellar windows. Octaon, hexagon, pentagon.
May 27, 2000 Session
A: Ark, are neutrinos related to the concept of a bridge into pure energy in some way?
…………………
(A) Are neutrinos the fundamental building blocks of everything? The most fundamental particle, so to speak?
A: More like a midpoint with spherical outward expansive quality. Tetrahedron, pentagon, hexagon.
July 4th 2020 Session
A: Tetrahedron in 3D is what in 4D?
…………………
A: Lethbridge.
Q: (Pierre) Coral castle.
…………………
(Gaby) I think it was pentagons that he drew in 3rd density, and that was triangles in 4th density.
A: Yes
…………………
A: Double tetrahedron in 3D is hexagon in 4D.
Many Celtic steles —with meanders or not— are quite detailed and informative not only as if they were “6D cropcircles,” but remarkably within our grasp once one can connect the dots. Besides, for 1 to 2 minute videos on St. Madoes stone can be seen for example here, here, here…
…………………Ah, another peculiar thing: “Madoes” name refers to a mysterious saint. The Catholic registers say that he may be actually the 4th century AD Irish St. Modomnoc,frienddisciple of Saint David. As such also he was a beekeeper, and there are curious citations on him:Martyrology of Oengus Culdee by W. Stokes
In a little boat, from the
east, over the pure-coloured
sea, my Domnoc brought
—vigorous cry!— the gifted race
of Ireland's bees.
…………………
The feast of Mark who
has been crowned: my Maedóc
great and treasurous: my
Domnoc, a triumphant diadem:
the feast of Bran the Little,
from Cláined.
December 4, 1999 Session
Q: Okay, Philip K. Dick wrote this book called V.A.L.I.S., meaning Vast Active Living Intelligence or Information System. Some of his information was strikingly similar to the information we have received through this source. He obviously wasn’t prepared for this in the same way that Don Elkins was not prepared for the Ra Material, and it caused a lot of problems in his life. Was Philip Dick channelling something like a Sixth Density source?
A: Not much of the time, but in part.
Q: Was he being abducted by aliens?
A: Interaction.
………………………………
Q: Why did he have these memories of having lived in another time and then...
A: Genius is next to insanity.
Q: So, he was a genius in his ideas, but they unbalanced him?
A: Close.
Q: He claims to have had a couple of experiences very similar to some I have had; and in these experiences he claims to have actually seen the underlying reality matrix... he saw the universe as it really is, in its nature of flowing lights and colors and so forth, as it reformed, so to speak... was he seeing 4th density?
A: Close.
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Valis, Dick Philip (Appendix)
Real time……. began again in 1974 C.E. The intervening period was a perfect spurious interpolation aping the creation of the Mind. ………"The Empire never ended," but in 1974 a cypher was sent out as a signal that the Age of Iron was over; the cypher consisted of two words: King Felix, which refers to the Happy (or Rightful) King.
The two-word cypher signal King Felix was not intended for human beings but for the descendants of Ikhnaton, the three-eyed race which, in secret, exists with us.
The Hermetic alchemists knew of the secret race of three-eyed invaders but despite their efforts could not contact them. Therefore their efforts to support Frederick V, Elector Palatine, King of Bohemia, failed. "The Empire never ended."
The Rose Cross Brotherhood wrote, ……"From God we are born, in Jesus we die, by the Holy Spirit we live again." This signifies that they had rediscovered the lost formula for immortality which the Empire had destroyed. "The Empire never ended."
Martyrology of Oengus Culdee by W. Stokes
Maedoc of Ferns, i.e. my Aedoc, i.e. of the Fir Luirc of Lough Erne was he.
………..……
Fifty bishops of the Britons of Cell Muine came on their pilgrimage to Maedoc of Ferns. They came [to him] because Maedoc of Ferns was a pupil of David of Cell Muine. From David's time flesh was not brought into the refectory of Cell Muine until Maedoc's successor brought it, and hence is David's strife and contumacy towards the successor that brought it, and remaining in the refectory, i.e. in the abbacy of Cell Muine, with his feet not touching the ground so long as he was alive.
So they came in pilgrimage to Maedoc. They were taken into the guest-house in the Lent of spring. There was brought to them for dinner 50 cakes and leeks and whey-water. "Why has this been brought?" says the bishop. "For you to consume it," says the house-steward. "Take it away," says the bishop: "nought thereof shall be consumed until there is a pig and an ox there."
The house-steward relates this [to Maedoc]. "Permission,” says Maedoc. It is brought to them. "'Tis well," quoth he ; they eat the meat. They are there till the morrow. Maedoc salutes them. "Well," says Maedoc: "it is not too much to reprove you for eating the meat in Lent and refusing the bread." "Not from study hast thou delivered that, O Maedoc," says the bishop. "Well?" says Maedoc. “Easy [to say]," quoth the bishop, "the pig drank its mother's milk, and the ox which was brought us ate nothing save the grass of the earth. But in the cake there were 365 weevils; therefore we consumed it not."
these came to mindFrieding, Nr Andechs, Germany.
Reported 20th July
A ten-spikes ball surrounded by what looks like a greek maze pattern...
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Despite numerous theories—ranging from surveying instruments and candle holders to knitting spools and gaming pieces—no definitive purpose has been established, and they remain one of antiquity's greatest mysteries.
At the top, very well remembered. So, could be like the ““Golden Milestone” of “All ways lead to Rome”?these came to mind
Roman dodecahedrons are small, hollow, 12-faced objects made of bronze or stone, featuring circular holes and knobs on each corner of their pentagonal faces,…………