4D STO principles

daddycat

The Living Force
FOTCM Member
What are 4D STO principles?
(daddycat) Networking and mental blocking are 4D STO principles. Respect of free will, expansion of being, and going with the natural flow are other principles that can be discerned from the sessions. Can you please give us another 4D STO principle?

(L) Well, I don't think you've extracted all you could from the sessions. I mean, I think there's plenty of others that are already there. So let's set that one aside and bring that up for a discussion because I think... Do any of you right off the top of your heads at this moment, can you think of some other STO principles that are apparent from the sessions?

(FOTCM Member) Networking.

(L) And serving others and feeling the pain of others.

(Andromeda) Mental blocking.

(L) Yeah, so I think that that can be built without necessarily getting into trying to discuss it now.

(Aiming) Is there a difference in healing methods used between 4D STS and 4D STO?

(L) I think that's also answered in the sessions, kind of in an oblique way, but it is there and I remember it was, I think it was in the June 21st or 22nd late nineties, and it was in the June 21st or 22nd session. I'm pretty sure that the C's were talking about how STS manipulates for outcomes and how STO goes with the natural flow of things and I think that would apply to healing methods as well. Is that true?

A: Yes

Q: (Joe) STS heals by taking energy from others.

(L) Yeah. STS heals by taking energy from others. Is that part of it?

A: Yes

Networking is a 4D STO principle explicitly stated by the Cs.
A: Always "Network". Networking is 4th Density STO concept seeping into 3rd density with upcoming realm border crossing.

Mental blocking is a 4D principle.
Q: (L) In a previous reading you stated that the Lizzies tried to abduct my eldest daughter and that I "stopped" it. At the time I should have asked, and am asking now: how, specifically, did I stop that activity? {The situation and what I did is described in “Amazing Grace”.}

A: Mental blocking, i.e. using 4th density principles.

Q: (DM) Was it just her presence that led them to believe that they should go find somebody else to abduct?

A: Pay attention to self-explanatory answers.

Q: (L) Okay, so, a mental block is a 4th density principle?

A: Bravo!

Q: (L) So, mentally blocking is our defense?

A: One of them.

Going with the natural flow is a STO tendency.
A: STO tends to do the process within the natural flow of things. STS seeks to alter creation processes to fit their ends.

Expansion of being is a STO tendency.
Q: (J) You have also said that about 4th density STOs it is difficult for them to maintain in 3rd density. (T) No, STS. (L) STS. (J) What's the difference?

A: The difference is an STO orientation tends to expand one's state of being, STS tends to contract one's state of being.

Free will is not straightforward. Determining the needs of another is not STO.
Q: How does it come that you are taking energy from someone by giving them love when not asked?

A: Because an STS vehicle does not learn to be an STO candidate by determining the needs of another.

Q: I don't understand how that means you are taking energy?

A: Because the act is then one of self-gratification. If one "gives" where there is no request, therefore no need, this is a free will violation! And besides, what other motivation could there possibly be in such a scenario?!? Think carefully and objectively about this.

Q: My thought would be that, in such a scenario, that if one gives love to someone who has not asked or requested, that it seems to be a desire to change the other, i.e. a desire to control.

A: You got it!!
However, maybe 4D STO can protect us from 4D STS attacks and thereby violate the free will of 4D STS?
(T) What are the incorrect thought patterns?

A: That we protect.

Q: (T) Well, you said that Knowledge protects. You have been providing knowledge. (J) Uh uh. (T) No?

A: Indirectly.

Q: (J) They are not really giving it to us, they are helping us to draw it out of ourselves.

A: We are providing invaluable information which becomes knowledge, but you are under attack, therefore, you could maybe use some direct power from the same density as the attack is coming from.

Q: (F) But, until you have total knowledge... (L) You don't have the kind of power we are talking about needing. (F) Right. We would would need 500,000 pages of transcript to have that kind of knowledge, to get to that point. (L) Okay, what is the phone number of the Orion Federation? (S) Laura! (T) That's what I was going to ask. {Laughter.} (L) How do we get ahold of them?

A: Off the hook!

Q: (T) Uh oh! (L) They're busy? (T) Getting a lot of calls. (L) Okay, guys, what do we need to do here?

A: Find a "Nordic." They are on Earth posing as humans.

Q: (T) They are 4th density. I thought they...

A: Yes.

Q: (T) I thought that 4th density couldn't hold the frequency that long and that is why the Lizards have so much trouble. (J) They're STS.

A: Not STO!

Q: (T) Very good, Jan hit it as they said it. The STS can't stay, only the STO.

A: Yes.

Q: (T) So, we need to find a Nordic, do we know one?

A: Have seen them at meetings and such.

Q: (L) What kind of meetings. (J) MUFON meetings?

A: MUFON.

Q: (T) I guess that means we are infiltrated over there. (L) Was there one at last weeks meeting?

A: ?? Discover, remember these are among your protectors and Laura and Frank know what level one attack is like, Terry, Jan and Susan are perilously close to finding out!

Q: (T) And we are working hard to not get attacked. We have a Nordic coming to our meetings? (J) Did we meet one today? (L) They gave a question mark to that one. What about this big conference in May?

A: Discover.

Q: (L) Well, should we wear something special like a red scarf so they can find us in the crowd? (T) Wait, wait...

A: Not needed at all, just be open and aware!!

Q: (L) Is this there anyway we can get any help or power from these 4th density good guys prior to that so that we can put a period to this attack we have been undergoing?

A: Start to call them, maybe.

Q: (L) How do we call them. (T) They said "discover!" They don't usually say that in regard to the project awareness meeting. (L) Yes. Okay.

A: Hint!

Q: (T) Thank you! (L) How do we call them? (T) We are calling them, we have our information packs out. (J) On the board?

A: No.

Q: (L) No, not on the board. (T) They'll come to us.

A: They are 4th, not 6th.

Q: (T) We can't contact them through the board because they are only 4th density? Is there a problem there?

A: Not conventional. It would be like using a FAX to contact Fido.
3 April 1995
{…}
Q: (L) Okay guys, you are telling us we are under attack, you are telling us it is going to get worse, you are telling us that maybe some of these other guys can help us out, what can we do in the meantime?
A: Prayers help but more is needed.
Q: (T) More than prayers is needed. So, we are on our own until we get contacted?
A: Find an Orion!!!
Q: (J) How? (L) What do we do, go out to the beach and say: "Orions, come here?" …
A: That is all we can tell you, because it is the limit of informative arena, any further would interfere with free will, so discover.
we and all other STO beings can only act through you (pause) in the collective sense.

Answering calls for assistance with knowledge is STO. Abduction is not STO.
Q: Can you abduct yourself in an STO manner and help yourself in this way? Can that be STO?

A: It is not, because that is not STO.

Q: So, when that is happening, and if it is happening, it is occurring in the STS parameter?

A: Yes.

Q: How do the STO manage?

A: They do not concern themselves with such things.

Q: Well, if the STS guys are genetically tweaking themselves to have some kind of different outcome for some reason that we do not perceive, don't you think there should be a balancing action on the STO side of some sort?

A: You are thinking in STS terms. But that is natural, since human 3rd density is STS.

Q: You say they don't concern themselves with that. What do STO individuals coming back from the future into the past concern themselves with?

A: Answering calls for assistance with knowledge.

Anticipation seems to have a place in preparation and defense.
Q: How many days will we be out of communication?

A: Not point. Just remember that anticipation is the "mother of preparation," and defense.

Sense of humor is STO impulse.
(Ze Germanz) Does 4D STS have a sense of humor?

A: No. If you have one it is because of STO impulses.
 

Re: Julius Caesar

Session 19 July 2014​


(L) Worse. I was reading some things about different opinions about Caesar from the period when he lived, and immediately after - I think a couple of generations. It's pretty clear that in spite of the defamation and propaganda by the oligarchy that killed him, he was absolutely famed for his gentle nature, for his compassion his mercy, his forgiveness, and his courtesy. I mean, he was literally famous for them. It's only defamers who have tried to blot that out, but it survives in some written texts that we still have. Okay, anybody else? I mean, we don't want to talk to Caesar right now because we have other questions. I guess we don't want to bother him unless we have really important questions. And I'm assuming we can ask questions about Caesar through this source, through the Cassiopaeans, without having to necessarily disturb Caesar on too many occasions. Is that correct?
 
Just to make sure, if you feel pain for someone or empathy who doesn't want to be part of your life is that also violation of their free will or not? Without trying to give them love or imposing anything on them, just accepting that they don't care about you. If someone tells you something about them that makes you sad and you feel sorry for their pain but they leave you afterwards like you never existed for them, isn't that a form of manipulation from their side? Who is then violating free will in that case and who drains whose energy?
What if you can't let go of feeling sorry for someone even if they hurt you? What if a person who still feels bad because of this other person's pain, can't have such a compassion for other people, because has opinion that other people didn't suffer as much and can't relate to pain of others who are more caring?
If you are a person who wants some compassion and understanding from someone who says that they can't understand you and can't relate with you like they did with other person, is that also a violation of the free will of a person who decided that can only feel pain of this other person that is no longer the part of their life? And what if that person is convincing you to be part of their life with a condition that they won't share such feelings for you?
 
Just to make sure, if you feel pain for someone or empathy who doesn't want to be part of your life is that also violation of their free will or not? Without trying to give them love or imposing anything on them, just accepting that they don't care about you. If someone tells you something about them that makes you sad and you feel sorry for their pain but they leave you afterwards like you never existed for them, isn't that a form of manipulation from their side? Who is then violating free will in that case and who drains whose energy?
What if you can't let go of feeling sorry for someone even if they hurt you? What if a person who still feels bad because of this other person's pain, can't have such a compassion for other people, because has opinion that other people didn't suffer as much and can't relate to pain of others who are more caring?
If you are a person who wants some compassion and understanding from someone who says that they can't understand you and can't relate with you like they did with other person, is that also a violation of the free will of a person who decided that can only feel pain of this other person that is no longer the part of their life? And what if that person is convincing you to be part of their life with a condition that they won't share such feelings for you?

I think the answer is to act in favor of your own destiny.
Q: (L) Why is it that it seems to be one of the primary things about us that prevents us from acting against such situations, is our fear of hurting another person? That was the chief thing that kept me in my marriage for so long. And, only when I knew that it was hurting the kids more to stay, did I have the power to get out. Why are we so afraid of hurting someone's feelings if they are hurting us?

A: Not correct concept. You do not need to "act against them," you need to act in favor of your destiny.
 
Just to make sure, if you feel pain for someone or empathy who doesn't want to be part of your life is that also violation of their free will or not? Without trying to give them love or imposing anything on them, just accepting that they don't care about you.
Though I suppose it depends a lot on the exact context of a given situation from a general standpoint, I don’t think feeling empathy for those who want nothing to do with you is a violation of their free will. In the same vein, I don’t think having love in your heart for someone (not giving love) like a child wouldn’t be a violation of their free will if for some reason they grew up to hate you. Note there may be further leniency in a family scenario due to some level of planning/agreeing to be part of the family in 5D before incarnating.

If someone explicitly didn’t want you to empathize with them and you naturally empathize anyway even without expressing this to them, I suppose this is a free will violation of a kind. But you might say in denying you your right to empathy they are denying your own free will to feel and process your emotions. When worrying about violating free will remember also not to violate your own.

Every time you say "yes" to someone who doesn't deserve it, and go against Yourself and what you value the most, you kill a small part of your essence. ~ LKJ

This can be further complicated by people not always meaning what they say. Sometimes those who desire help may push others away. In respecting free will, we should take into account people’s words and not force help where it is unwanted. However, there are nuances to situations that may only be perceptible to those in close relationships with a more intimate understanding of one another. Such complicated scenarios feature in some of the romance literature discussed in the Romance Novel thread. Perhaps there isn’t always an easy yes or no answer in some situations, but by trying to observe reality as it is and praying for guidance we may gain understanding of what course of action may best be in accordance with free will of those around us.
 
Just to make sure, if you feel pain for someone or empathy who doesn't want to be part of your life is that also violation of their free will or not? Without trying to give them love or imposing anything on them, just accepting that they don't care about you. If someone tells you something about them that makes you sad and you feel sorry for their pain but they leave you afterwards like you never existed for them, isn't that a form of manipulation from their side? Who is then violating free will in that case and who drains whose energy?
What if you can't let go of feeling sorry for someone even if they hurt you? What if a person who still feels bad because of this other person's pain, can't have such a compassion for other people, because has opinion that other people didn't suffer as much and can't relate to pain of others who are more caring?
If you are a person who wants some compassion and understanding from someone who says that they can't understand you and can't relate with you like they did with other person, is that also a violation of the free will of a person who decided that can only feel pain of this other person that is no longer the part of their life? And what if that person is convincing you to be part of their life with a condition that they won't share such feelings for you?
I think you may be conflating a few things that may not necessarily go together.

Feeling pain for someone who doesn't want to be part of your life, just feeling it. It's not a violation of free will. Even if you wish things to be different, so long as you do not interfere, I don't think there's a violation.

If someone tells you something, and then leave. It depends on what the outcome was of that, maybe they were feeding on your pity, or maybe they got something from you feeling sorry for them. in that case, the person with the story may have manipulated the situation to get what they want. But it depends on the actual details of the story, because the listener could also get something from the dynamic of being the "better one" in the interaction. I think the details of the story can help clarify that.

If you can't let go of feeling sorry for someone, then perhaps you're missing out the bigger picture in that person's life, they have their own path and as the C's said once, determining the needs of another isn't really STO nor is it compassionate, it's self considering. On the other hand, if someone shows up and claims they refuse to feel compassion for another, because of their own suffering being the greatest on earth, then that person is just too biter and self centered.

Wanting your needs met by another, depending on the nature of the relationship, is natural and healthy, it is the opportunity we give to each other of growing together. If they refuse to do it to you, but have admittedly done it for someone else, and still want you to be part of their life, then it's up to you to decide if it's worth your time to enter a relationship where you already know your needs won't be met. Don't know if it's violating of free will per se, because both partners are aware, but it does sound like a case of self deception and an out of balance feeding dynamic. Think of the story of the scorpion and the frog.
 
On the topic, from 10 December 1994, sharing what you have is an STO principle

Q: (F) You are not keeping up with the program, Terry. (L) What do you want from us?

A: We don't want when pure STO. We came because YOU wanted. But that is STS until you share with others.

Q: (L) So, it is necessary that we share this information?

A: Up to you, it is a free will choice.
 
The Free Will in the Shadow of Manipulation
The principle of free will, a cornerstone of the STO philosophy, rests on the inviolable freedom of every human being to make their own decisions. But how is this freedom to be judged when a person is under the influence of hidden forces?
Don Juan, the wise shaman, once spoke in enigmatic words: “Do they whisper all this to us in our sleep?” With a smile, he denied it: “No, they do not proceed so crudely. That would be foolish!” Instead, he explained, the predators—those invisible powers that steer the human mind—are of immeasurable cunning and organization. “To keep us compliant, meek, and weak,” he continued, “the predators devised a maneuver of monstrous scope—a maneuver that, from the perspective of those who suffer under it, is horrific. They gave us their mind! Do you understand? Their mind becomes our mind. This mind is baroque, contradictory, sullen, filled with the fear of being discovered at any moment.”

Corona Pandemie
These words resonate when we recall the time of the coronavirus pandemic. Those who recognized the danger of manipulation by such “predators” sought to warn their fellow human beings. In forums, in conversations, in passionate appeals, they tried to protect others from a supposed trap. But was this action in harmony with the universal order? Did it violate the law of free will? May one intervene when people—deceived by a manipulated mind—make decisions that put them in danger?

The question becomes especially urgent when it concerns children. If a mother realizes that her child is being influenced by such predators, that foreign thoughts are putting it in peril, must she then, in the name of free will, stand by idly? Or is she permitted—perhaps even obliged—to intervene?When considering free will in the light of a universal law, it seems as though one must never interfere, even when people, driven by a clouded will, place themselves in mortal danger. But does this not lead to a cold principle of looking away, of “moving on,” of non-interference? Would such behavior not rather reflect the STS principle, which prioritizes indifference over compassion?
 
Or is she permitted—perhaps even obliged—to intervene?
Cannot intervene in the lives of adults because intervention without being asked is STS control.
A: Because the act is then one of self-gratification. If one "gives" where there is no request, therefore no need, this is a free will violation! And besides, what other motivation could there possibly be in such a scenario?!? Think carefully and objectively about this.

Q: My thought would be that, in such a scenario, that if one gives love to someone who has not asked or requested, that it seems to be a desire to change the other, i.e. a desire to control.

A: You got it!!
 
Cannot intervene in the lives of adults because intervention without being asked is STS control.
I don’t share your view. An example from my practice: A patient in a nursing home, once full of life, until a stroke confined him to a wheelchair. His spirit remains unbroken; he wants to stand, move, be free. But his body betrays him, and his attempts have already led to a femur fracture. I’ve warned him that his plans are dangerous, but he ignores my words. His free will drives him, yet I see the danger he doesn’t recognize.

I face a difficult decision. If I respect his wishes and let him proceed, I risk him falling and seriously injuring himself. This could not only harm him but also put me in trouble—a lawsuit for failure to assist if someone observes that I didn’t provide help or protection, or even a professional ban if the nursing home reports the incident to the insurance company. Yet, if I restrain him, I take away his free will, which means so much to him.

I’ve been reflecting on the concept of free will you mentioned: It cannot be absolute. When someone, like my patient, can no longer clearly assess the consequences of their actions, I, as a therapist, have a duty to protect them. I see this in other areas of life: Children don’t go to school voluntarily, people in psychiatric clinics are protected from themselves, prisons safeguard society. These limits on free will exist to ensure safety and well-being. I believe I must intervene in such moments—not to patronize, but to prevent harm, guided by care and responsibility.

In my profession, I balance autonomy and protection. I think of ethical principles like the duty of care and harm prevention that guide me. If my patient doesn’t understand the risks, I must act, perhaps through clear communication, consultation with superiors, or safety measures that preserve his dignity. I see free will as precious, but not as a blank check that puts people in danger. True freedom, I believe, means being protected to remain human.
 
A: Because the act is then one of self-gratification. If one "gives" where there is no request, therefore no need, this is a free will violation! And besides, what other motivation could there possibly be in such a scenario?!? Think carefully and objectively about this.

Q: My thought would be that, in such a scenario, that if one gives love to someone who has not asked or requested, that it seems to be a desire to change the other, i.e. a desire to control.

A: You got it!!

Cannot intervene in the lives of adults because intervention without being asked is STS control.

I think that love for another is a real slippery slope. What defines giving love? Saying I love you to someone who didn’t ask for it to be said, even though they say it to you? Giving someone a birthday present who didn’t ask for gifts? Giving cash or food to a homeless person while they’re just sitting there doing nothing?

All of those things can be rejected of course and may be that’s where we cross the line of freewill, if we offer but they decline or we’ve specifically been told to take our love elsewhere.

I’m dealing with someone right now who has no idea where to start in trying to help them self with their illness. I offer suggestions of things to try without them asking, they can accept them or not, it’s up to them. Then on the flip side when they’re having an extra bad day I get scolded for not doing or caring enough, so I try harder to help, then I get scolded again about how I don’t care… and get told to leave them alone, so I do, only to get told I don’t care again, it keeps going around and around for the last 1.5 years.
Sometimes people have no idea what is or isn’t good for them and don’t have any effective ways in asking for help, love, care, support or whatever, just yell, demand, cry, try to blame others and totally dissociate . In my situation with said person I really don’t know what I’m supposed to do when they’re all over the place, so I keep on researching and offering advice anyhow, even when I get told to F off because I know next week I’ll get told that they think I don’t care.
 
I think that love for another is a real slippery slope. What defines giving love? Saying I love you to someone who didn’t ask for it to be said, even though they say it to you? Giving someone a birthday present who didn’t ask for gifts? Giving cash or food to a homeless person while they’re just sitting there doing nothing?

All of those things can be rejected of course and may be that’s where we cross the line of freewill, if we offer but they decline or we’ve specifically been told to take our love elsewhere.

I’m dealing with someone right now who has no idea where to start in trying to help them self with their illness. I offer suggestions of things to try without them asking, they can accept them or not, it’s up to them. Then on the flip side when they’re having an extra bad day I get scolded for not doing or caring enough, so I try harder to help, then I get scolded again about how I don’t care… and get told to leave them alone, so I do, only to get told I don’t care again, it keeps going around and around for the last 1.5 years.
Sometimes people have no idea what is or isn’t good for them and don’t have any effective ways in asking for help, love, care, support or whatever, just yell, demand, cry, try to blame others and totally dissociate . In my situation with said person I really don’t know what I’m supposed to do when they’re all over the place, so I keep on researching and offering advice anyhow, even when I get told to F off because I know next week I’ll get told that they think I don’t care.
A grueling dynamic of contradictory signals: on the one hand, your help is rejected; on the other, you are criticized for a lack of care. This ambivalence highlights how difficult it is to act appropriately when the other person’s needs are unclear or inconsistently communicated. I know this scenario from the context of gaslighting and contradictory messages from narcissists. To break free from this cycle, I eventually found my own solution: instead of continuing to offer unsolicited advice, I set clear boundaries. I refused to let myself be confused any longer and posed a direct question: “I want clarity, so can you tell me clearly what you want, and that will hold lasting value for me.” Questions like “What do you need from me right now?” or “How can I best support you?” proved entirely futile. At the same time, it’s crucial to recognize your own emotional burden and practice self-care to avoid being trapped in a spiral of guilt and overwhelm. This approach respects the other person’s free will while allowing me to offer support in a targeted and respectful way. If this cycle shows no end, the only options are to endure it or to walk away to protect yourself.Compassion also has a dangerous side— is this behavior truly altruistic, or is it unconsciously driven by personal needs (e.g., for recognition or control), which could point toward STS? Love is knowledge—love is not about demanding or giving. Love is a feeling of connection and has nothing to do with manipulation. If I give something without expecting anything in return, I offer a gift to bring joy. If that gift is rejected, I state clearly that gifts are not wanted, and there will be no more gifts in the future. That is a firm decision.
 
I think that love for another is a real slippery slope. What defines giving love? Saying I love you to someone who didn’t ask for it to be said, even though they say it to you? Giving someone a birthday present who didn’t ask for gifts? Giving cash or food to a homeless person while they’re just sitting there doing nothing?

All of those things can be rejected of course and may be that’s where we cross the line of freewill, if we offer but they decline or we’ve specifically been told to take our love elsewhere.

I’m dealing with someone right now who has no idea where to start in trying to help them self with their illness. I offer suggestions of things to try without them asking, they can accept them or not, it’s up to them. Then on the flip side when they’re having an extra bad day I get scolded for not doing or caring enough, so I try harder to help, then I get scolded again about how I don’t care… and get told to leave them alone, so I do, only to get told I don’t care again, it keeps going around and around for the last 1.5 years.
Sometimes people have no idea what is or isn’t good for them and don’t have any effective ways in asking for help, love, care, support or whatever, just yell, demand, cry, try to blame others and totally dissociate . In my situation with said person I really don’t know what I’m supposed to do when they’re all over the place, so I keep on researching and offering advice anyhow, even when I get told to F off because I know next week I’ll get told that they think I don’t care.
Love is not a slippery slope, if it’s actual love. Remember that “love is light, is knowledge..”. When you love truely it does not require anything, it is clearly seeing and understanding. This takes work and good deal of understanding and seeing objective reality.
This person you are talking about, is suffering in order to learn. We all do, and we must do, for others we must let them. It is damned hard work to become a sane human being, we are all pretty mentally ill unless we make the gradual efforts to become sane proper people. You know this, you have embarked on this journey. Lots of people will never embark on it. So with this person at what point do you bullshit on the manipulation and do some straight talking? If they likely are not mentally stable take that into consideration, but for goodness sake don’t try and fix other people. Sort yourself out and acknowledge what you have learned then make yourself available to lift someone else up on the step behind you who wants to learn that lesson also. Then get on with your next step. What is the hook with this person? That’s for you to figure out, why are you hooked into this drama? It’s nothing to do with love, love does not dance with drama.
 
I think there's a few ideas that perhaps should be explored and this might get offer a way out of this conundrum, hopefully.

I think that we have free will, and we have motivations for choices that determine STO or STS.

In a sense, free will is the ultimate law of the universe, and some of the examples presented, could in a sense be construed to be a technical violation of free will, and I believe every parent can understand this, when they impose their will upon their rebellious children. But then, it was their children's choice to be born to said parents at some level, right? and so part of that choice was to live under their restrictions in a way, to provide one another the opportunity to learn, does that still imply a violation of free will? it can be debated, the truth is that restraint is part of the mission of every parent, and caregiver.

On the other hand, these children did not consciously asked you to bring them to the world, so... free will violation? maybe not.

So, it becomes really nuanced when thinking about it, and at some point, we should perhaps remind ourselves that we live in an STS reality and as such most of our choices will remain self serving, we can attempt to grow respectful and honorable, never harm anyone consciously and become responsible for our choices, and most importantly, honest with ourselves about our motivations, but we're still STS. Honesty about that fact is perhaps better than to attempt to dress and measure up every choice in an STOness, because that can turn into an STS trojan horse rather quickly, think of all the diversity crowd fighting for the rights of minorities, for instance.

Which brings me to the motivation, free will violation is an STS feature, STO respects and upholds free will, this is true. But it strikes me that respecting the free will of another, WITH the intent of getting to STO is actually STS in nature, one is still chasing a reward in the end, "to be STO". Foregoing responsibility because "I respect free will as an STO candidate that I am" or whatever, can be a covert STS strategy. Not that every time one steps aside and lets people live their choices, one is doing it out of laziness or lack of responsibility, but it can happen.

Having said the above, if one has a set of responsibilities that one has accepted, and this implies some potential violation of free will, then be honest about it and still do your best. I love my dog, but I know I restrain his existence, and it is self serving, I can at least admit that as opposed to telling myself "No, I love my dog in an STO manner". Now, If one wishes to remain in a feeding dynamic despite the warnings and red flags, then one is free to do so I suppose, but what I would advice anyone is, at least be honest about your motivations, so that at least you're not deceiving yourself in the process.

Become part of something, or choose to give something another try despite the warnings, because you choose to do so, not because you have to. Choose the opposite, removing yourself from a situation or stepping aside, because you chose to, not because "it's the STO way to do things".

I think it comes down to that ultimately, choice, even before one reaches out for principles to try and categorize life events. And if one realizes that one isn't choosing, that it is something else that compels one to remain in a situation, or give in, or to walk away, then that's where you can exercise free will and begin to recognize it (or its lack) in another and act accordingly.

Put another way, it's like choricially honest people, who claim they uphold the truth as paramount, but in reality are simply excusing rudeness for instance. Not that truth isn't important, even brutal honesty, but it's the motivation for dispensing the truth that actually determines wether it is love for truth or love for the self that is at the core of this behavior, something similar might apply to ideas around violating free will.
 
Children don’t go to school voluntarily
Minor children are under the control of their parents, of course. However, that ends at adulthood.

people in psychiatric clinics are protected from themselves, prisons safeguard society.
Governments have a process involving many people for these situations. No one decides on their own.
 
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