A problem with my heart? I went to emergency

[Laura]

Since I was 13 I've had what is known as Wolf parkinsons White syndrome(WPW), a pre-excitation syndromes, and it is a very scary experience when your hearts passes the 200 bpms mark. I had to have surgery for it since my heart began to beat irregularly at 15, 4 surgeries due to the complication of the abnormal pathway(not trying to cause you more stress or anxiety), but I would say you're case is most likely caused by the coffee and/or stress. WPW usually manifests when you are a teenager, so you don't' have to worry about that particular syndrome. I only bring it up to let you know that i've been living with these episodes since 13 and they can be very scary, but you have some great advice from many of the members and I'm optimistic after the removal of coffee/stress and checking iodine you'll go back to a regular rhythm.

Best of luck

Bless your heart! What a terrible thing to live with. Hope you are doing well now!

 

[David]

Glade your feeling better Loreta...

With regard to stress, there’s a Ted talk, ‘how to make stress your friend...’ by Kelly McGonigal

Not that anybody would like to make stress their friend, though in the absence of anything better in the moment, it may be useful should one have the presence of mind to remember and perhaps mitigate some of its unhealthy effects... some of which are linked to SOTT articles below... not to forger EE or some breathing exercise to help reduce an elevating heart rate... though sometimes its needed, should one require super powers, in running or lifting heavy loads to save life...

Ted talkTranscript found here _http://www.ted.com/talks/kelly_mcgonigal_how_to_make_stress_your_friend/transcript?language=en

What I got from it, was the narrative of how we view stress has a definate physilogcal effect... typlical stress reaction is where the heart rate rises and the walls of the viens contract
Now, in a typical stress response, your heart rate goes up, and your blood vessels constrict like this. And this is one of the reasons that chronic stress is sometimes associated with cardiovascular disease. It's not really healthy to be in this state all the time. But in the study, when participants viewed their stress response as helpful, their blood vessels stayed relaxed like this. Their heart was still pounding, but this is a much healthier cardiovascular profile. It actually looks a lot like what happens in moments of joy and courage. Over a lifetime of stressful experiences, this one biological change could be the difference between a stress-induced heart attack at age 50 and living well into your 90s. And this is really what the new science of stress reveals, that how you think about stress matters.

And Articles related to stress found on SOTT.net

How stress affects your mind and body
http://www.sott.net/article/287894-How-stress-affects-your-mind-and-body

Short-term stress as bad as long-term stress
http://www.sott.net/article/150855-Short-term-stress-as-bad-as-long-term-stress

20 Things You Didn't Know About... Stress
http://www.sott.net/article/233127-20-Things-You-Didnt-Know-About-Stress

 

[Chu]

Nothing to add to what others said. I hope you take it easy, take a break from the iodine and the coffee, take minerals, and feel better soon!

Louise Hay's take on it, which could be related to what you recently went though:

Heart: Represents the center of love and security. Heart Problems: Longstanding emotional problems. Lack of joy. Hardening of the heart. Belief in strain and stress.

And Thinkingfingers, WOW! That must be terrible. I had never heard of Wolf parkinsons White syndrome. That must be tough! Is there no "cure" for it, like with diet, supplements, etc.?

 

[Pierre]

Hi Loreta,

I had bouts of 'tachicardia' for about one month. It happened when I lied down in bed, my heart was beating very fast and strong, it was skipping beats and I was hyperventilating. It was lasting for 30 to 60 minutes.

So I took potassium, magnesium and COQ10 diligently and it finally disappeared. I'm still not sure about the cause, maybe it was just a lack of minerals.

In any case, I hope you'll quickly find a solution to this issue than can be quite scary (and yes a feedback loop can occur : tachycardia -> fear of dying -> more tachicardia...)

Take good care of yourself and keep in mind that you're not alone.

 

[Solie123]

Hi loreta...

I'm glad you're feeling better. I think it might be a detox reaction only because when I first started the iodine (and sometimes even now), I get the same sensation of my heart feeling like it's gonna pound out of my chest. I'm not absolutely certain that in my case or in yours it's an effect of detox by the iodine, but I would defiantly consider taking some minerals, like suggested by other members; especially potassium.

If you don't mind me asking what other symptoms you felt; did you feel weak or shaky, a jolt in energy?

 

[loreta]

Thank you to all of you! your insights and feeling that I am not alone is a medicine for my heart. Laura thanks for your advice and for telling your experience. Sometimes when I feel febrility in my heart I cough me too, it is almost instinctive. But yesterday was really different. I will read your comment on the iodine threat right away.

Solie: I was a little shaking, and very tired.

Pierre I am happy that your problem resumed and you don't have any more rapid pulsations. 60 minutes of it...its very very long.

And this fear of dying... that explains so many other fears. How strange.

Chu thank you. I was thinking today after the comment of Plume how our heart is not just a muscle but a mirror of us, I mean some people died simply because they are too sad. The heart stop, that's all as if the heart is too sad to continue to live. Or when a person receives bad news, the heart stop, that's the end. The sufferance is too strong, too insuportable, to hard and the heart stops like falling itself in a big black hole. Or a heart can freeze, or become like a silex, or feel so lonely that one day it says: enough is enough, I am too tired. Even some people don't have a heart, it seems. There are some guides meditations that makes you take conscience of your heart because we always forget it, this strange thing that is more than a muscle. Usually I don't like to feel and listen to my heart, this is a symptom per se. The fear to feel alive?

Thinkingfingers thanks for your story and the insights in it. I hope you are better now?

thank you Davida for your links. It is time to face stress. Stress is there even if you don't see it, even if you think it is not there because stress is invisible. We can say, I think so, that stress is the invisible murderer.


Lately I was more stressed (papers my husband) so took more coffee and a "little" too much carbs because I was more stressed and took more coffee and a little too much.... Like a mouse in a wheel, in a vicious circle.

THANK YOU to all of you. Your comments and advices makes me think about my heart and your hearts.

 

[Zar]

Thanks Laura, chu, and loreta, I'm indeed doing well. This syndrome had me on beta blockers and I was unable to do much physical activity growing up, until I did have an episode that was very dangerous and forced the doctors to bump me to the top of the surgery list.

Nothing to add to what others said. I hope you take it easy, take a break from the iodine and the coffee, take minerals, and feel better soon!

Louise Hay's take on it, which could be related to what you recently went though:

Heart: Represents the center of love and security. Heart Problems: Longstanding emotional problems. Lack of joy. Hardening of the heart. Belief in strain and stress.

And Thinkingfingers, WOW! That must be terrible. I had never heard of Wolf parkinsons White syndrome. That must be tough! Is there no "cure" for it, like with diet, supplements, etc.?

There is no "cure" per se, according to modern medicine, due to the problem stemming from an extra nerve that transmits electricity and causes the ventricle of the heart to beat irregularly. There is always the possibility that a proper(keto) diet as a child may help not have an irregular growth of said nerve or an active emotional centre, although my diet was comparatively good, but it's impossible to test. This syndrome seems to be genetic. The only working procedure is a Catheter ablation (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catheter_ablation), after prescriptions, which has about a 95% chance of success. It's were you insert a flexible catheter into a large vein that connects to the heart, and proceed to burn the extra nerve area that a causes the electrical surge. When it heals usually the nerve gets blocked off or heals normally. Most people have 1 extra nerve, I had 3 and unfortunately one of them was in a very trickily spot that after 4 surgeries there was nothing more that could be done. It's basically harmless though, it does occur from time to time but it's more of a nuisance.

One thing that your post makes me wonder Chu is if having heart symptoms can be influenced by a blocked/sleeping emotional centre? but this is probably a better questions for the thread on DNA, Karma, etc… that Joe started.

Anyways I don't want to make Loreta's thread about me. Hopefully you'll be fine and let us know how the non coffee and non stress work out.

 

[loreta]

Thanks Laura, chu, and loreta, I'm indeed doing well. This syndrome had me on beta blockers and I was unable to do much physical activity growing up, until I did have an episode that was very dangerous and forced the doctors to bump me to the top of the surgery list.

Nothing to add to what others said. I hope you take it easy, take a break from the iodine and the coffee, take minerals, and feel better soon!

Louise Hay's take on it, which could be related to what you recently went though:

Heart: Represents the center of love and security. Heart Problems: Longstanding emotional problems. Lack of joy. Hardening of the heart. Belief in strain and stress.

And Thinkingfingers, WOW! That must be terrible. I had never heard of Wolf parkinsons White syndrome. That must be tough! Is there no "cure" for it, like with diet, supplements, etc.?

There is no "cure" per se, according to modern medicine, due to the problem stemming from an extra nerve that transmits electricity and causes the ventricle of the heart to beat irregularly. There is always the possibility that a proper(keto) diet as a child may help not have an irregular growth of said nerve or an active emotional centre, although my diet was comparatively good, but it's impossible to test. This syndrome seems to be genetic. The only working procedure is a Catheter ablation (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catheter_ablation), after prescriptions, which has about a 95% chance of success. It's were you insert a flexible catheter into a large vein that connects to the heart, and proceed to burn the extra nerve area that a causes the electrical surge. When it heals usually the nerve gets blocked off or heals normally. Most people have 1 extra nerve, I had 3 and unfortunately one of them was in a very trickily spot that after 4 surgeries there was nothing more that could be done. It's basically harmless though, it does occur from time to time but it's more of a nuisance.

One thing that your post makes me wonder Chu is if having heart symptoms can be influenced by a blocked/sleeping emotional centre? but this is probably a better questions for the thread on DNA, Karma, etc… that Joe started.

Anyways I don't want to make Loreta's thread about me. Hopefully you'll be fine and let us know how the non coffee and non stress work out.

You can start a new thread if you wanted but it is, I think so, not a problem if we learn about a heart condition in this threat. On the contrary, I thank you for your story because it is a heart story and it gives me a perspective of my experience!

My sister told me (she is a nurse) that maybe I have "atrial fibrillation".

Atrial fibrillation (AF or A-fib) is an abnormal heart rhythm characterized by rapid and irregular beating.[1] Often it starts as brief periods of abnormal beating which become longer and possibly constant over time.[2] Most episodes have no symptoms.[3] Occasionally there may be heart palpitations, fainting, shortness of breath, or chest pain.[4] The disease increases the risk of heart failure, dementia, and stroke.[3] It is a type of supraventricular tachycardia.[5]
Hypertension and valvular heart disease are the most common alterable risk factors for AF.[6][7] Other heart-related risk factors include heart failure, coronary artery disease, cardiomyopathy, and congenital heart disease.[6] In the developing world valvular heart disease often occurs as a result of rheumatic fever.[8] Lung-related risk factors include COPD, obesity, and sleep apnea.[3] Other factors include excess alcohol intake, diabetes mellitus, and thyrotoxicosis.[3][8] However, half of cases are not associated with one of these risks.[3] A diagnosis is made by feeling the pulse and may be confirmed using an electrocardiogram (ECG).[9] The typical ECG shows no P waves and an irregular ventricular rate.[9]

I just hope I don't have this. My sister told me if I have another "attack" to take an aspirin. What do you think about it? It seems to me that I read many really bad things about aspirins. My sister, evidently is a nurse in the medical Canadian system, not open at all with natural remedies. How strange that she is so different from me. Are we really sisters? :)

My homeopath told me to take also 5-HTP. I will purchase this tomorrow.

My father died from an heart attack. Sometimes I think that his bad character made him pump his heart, all his life. He was always angry. He was not very happy at home, just doing theater he was happy. So he was always having attacks of anger, yelling, etc. And one winter day clearing up the snow his heart did patapoom. No more anger crisis, no more yelling, no more unhappiness. His heart was not strong I think so because of all his fits he had all his life. He died at 62.

Thanks Thinkingfingers for explaining about your heart. I wish you the best.

 

[Thebull]

Hello Loreta,

Nothing to add to the great advice you've had. It's a frightening experience you went through and I wish you all the best in your recovery and hope your managing your stress

 

[Regulattor]

Hi loreta! Hope you're fine!

From time to time I also have trouble with heart palpitations and strong/increased pulse. What I have learned so far is that, in my case,
there is a connection between smoking and eating dark chocolate after which I'm experiencing changes in the heart beat. Which could mean that I may be DAO deficient or Histamine intolerant, so you may check this as a causator also. _http://www.deficitdao.org/en/dao-deficiency/what-is/ or this: http://www.sott.net/article/300710-Is-histamine-intolerance-the-cause-of-your-problems

Coffee and Tobacco can overwhelm your system with histamine and produce heart beat irregularities.

So far I'm able to control my heart irregularities with Magnesium, and for this purpose I'm using Mg Taurate and it works really well.

The combination of magnesium and taurate can be especially beneficial in preventing cardiovascular problems. Magnesium supplementation can help lower blood pressure and reduce the risk of developing diabetes and atherosclerosis. Elevated levels of magnesium may also protect from irregular heartbeats and sudden cardiac death. Taurate, on the other hand, can be converted into taurine, an amino acid. Taurine helps the heart pump blood throughout the body, improves blood flow to the heart and protects the heart from damage due to poor blood flow. As a result, these two compounds, taken in combination as magnesium taurate, could interact to protect against cardiovascular disease.

 

[Oxajil]

Hello Loreta,

Nothing to add to the great advice you've had. It's a frightening experience you went through and I wish you all the best in your recovery and hope your managing your stress

Same here loreta! In case it helps: When I had problems with my liver, I would eat liver paté (recipe here) as the organ has all the nutrients that are good for the liver. Sometimes I incorporated small pieces of a heart organ in it. Maybe this is something you and Thinkingfingers could try? See for example here:

However, I advise against eating organ meats from animals raised in confined animal feeding operations (CAFOs). The diets, veterinary drugs and living conditions of such animals are not likely to result in healthy organs, so be sure to find out where the organs came from, should you decide to pick some up at your local grocer.

Many traditional cultures and their medicine men—including Native Americans—believe that eating the organs from a healthy animal supports the organs of the eater.

For example, a traditional way of treating a person with a weak heart was to feed the person the heart of a healthy animal. Similarly, eating the brains of a healthy animal was believed to support clear thinking, and animal kidneys were fed to people suffering from urinary maladies.

There are countless reports about the success of these types of traditional practices. We can thank Dr. Weston A. Price for an enormous body of research about the health benefits of traditional diets.1

[...]

CoQ10 (essential for energy production and cardiac function; potent antioxidant; animal hearts offer the highest levels of coQ10)

Of course diet is one way to help your heart, another would be emotional healing, and perhaps one way to do that is as you said by way of meditation, and to keep networking here about issues that "weigh heavy on your heart". Hugs.

 

[Jacques]

I just hope I don't have this. My sister told me if I have another "attack" to take an aspirin. What do you think about it? It seems to me that I read many really bad things about aspirins. My sister, evidently is a nurse in the medical Canadian system, not open at all with natural remedies. How strange that she is so different from me. Are we really sisters? :)

My acupuncturist who have been a nurse for more than 20 years in the Québecois system, told me exactly the same things : to take a couple of aspirin.

 

[Solie123]

My father died from an heart attack. Sometimes I think that his bad character made him pump his heart, all his life. He was always angry. He was not very happy at home, just doing theater he was happy. So he was always having attacks of anger, yelling, etc. And one winter day clearing up the snow his heart did patapoom. No more anger crisis, no more yelling, no more unhappiness. His heart was not strong I think so because of all his fits he had all his life. He died at 62.

I'm sorry to hear you lost your father so suddenly while he was quite young. From what you explained, his heart problems and physiological connection remind me a lot of the theories expressed by Gabor Mate and Bessel van der Kolk about the mind-body connection on stress and disease.

As far as taking aspirin goes, I'm not so sure about it. I knew a guy from work who took an aspirin a day, (not that you would be taking it daily) because he was under the impression that aspirin was good for your heart. One day he stopped showing up. He had developed problems in his kidney and internal bleeding from aspirin. I haven't heard from him since, but knowing what it caused him made me very apprehensive and suspicious about ever taking aspirin.

Only case that I think aspirin should be used is during a heart attack, because it slows blood clotting (as it's a blood thinner), so a blood clot that is causing the heart attack stays smaller.

The other thing is, aspirin would only be quitting the symptom, which is the strong heartbeat you felt, but it wouldn't be fixing the problem, if there is one.

My 2 cents ._.

 

[loreta]

Hello everybody, thank you for your good and kind words.

For the aspirin I will not take it. Too negative information. I prefer taking homeopathy.

I went to the doctor this morning. He told me: "Don't worry." I asked for a blood test including a test for my thyroid. He looked the papers from the emergency and said everything was ok. It ca be the coffee, the stress, the food... etc. Next week I will go for the blood tests.

Yesterday I took a feet bath with magnesium. I sleep very well and this morning I wake up with a lot of positive energy, something I didn't had lately. Surely I need magnesium.

I have to buy the book by Maté, next month if possible.

Thanks to everybody! Your help is precious, really. It is in my heart, now. :)

 

[loreta]

I just hope I don't have this. My sister told me if I have another "attack" to take an aspirin. What do you think about it? It seems to me that I read many really bad things about aspirins. My sister, evidently is a nurse in the medical Canadian system, not open at all with natural remedies. How strange that she is so different from me. Are we really sisters? :)

My acupuncturist who have been a nurse for more than 20 years in the Québecois system, told me exactly the same things : to take a couple of aspirin.

Gandalf, are you taking the aspirins? Is this a good idea?