A problem with my heart? I went to emergency

[Zar]

Thanks for your posts everyone, I will be going to my butcher today and will inquire about heart and liver. Very excited to try making pate as well, and canning my meat once my jars arrive later today.

 

[munaychasumaq]

I just hope I don't have this. My sister told me if I have another "attack" to take an aspirin. What do you think about it? It seems to me that I read many really bad things about aspirins. My sister, evidently is a nurse in the medical Canadian system, not open at all with natural remedies. How strange that she is so different from me. Are we really sisters? :)

My acupuncturist who have been a nurse for more than 20 years in the Québecois system, told me exactly the same things : to take a couple of aspirin.

Gandalf, are you taking the aspirins? Is this a good idea?

Loreta our heart is apparently more than a muscle is saturated fat.you need to feed yours with the best of them.Nothing of aspirin.Here a links
that explains why?

http://www.sott.net/article/238448-Aspirin-for-Prevention-of-Cardiovascular-Disease-Ineffective-or-Even-Harmful-in-the-Majority-of-Patients-Just-Like-Statins


http://www.sott.net/article/242058-Common-Aspirin-Can-Cause-Intestinal-Bleeding-Deadly-Stroke


http://www.sott.net/article/143744-Aspirin-provides-less-heart-protection-for-women


Try to eliminated refined carbohydrates and drink more water.The information in the David Browsteim`s book:Iodine ,why you need it... you will find very important information.And you do not forget to talk with your water before to drink it.

And i hope to all of you a happy and healthy HEART.If our Heart is done there is nothing we can do...We need it healthy in order to deal in this chaotic 3D.

Kisses at all of you

 

[Yas]

Hi Loreta!

I'm sorry to hear about what you went through. That must have been scary!

I agree with everybody about the coffee, it also rises my heartbeat quite a lot when I drink it, so I guess that stopping or drinking less coffee will help you.

I'm glad that you're feeling better already and I hope you continue to improve!

Take care, relax, breathe, and listen to your heart...

@Thinkingfingers: Wow! that seems like a crazy condition to grow up with, I'm glad that you are better too after all those surgeries, it must have been hard to go through all of them, but it seems that you recovered well and that you have a good knowledge about how to stop a crisis, that's good. :)

 

[edgitarra]

As I was also participating at this topic a few months ago, I wanted to mention that last night I had again an episode(didn't have it for months).
I had to arrive at the emergency. In the beginning the heart rate was 205 bpm, then as I was breathing calmly, it dropped to 160-170. Blood results were perfect, they just could not get me slower than 160. So they had to temporarily stop the electrical pathway of my heart, to restart itself.
I was given adenosine in 2 shots, a 5mg and then a 10 mg, and after it dropped to 100.

Luckily they managed to catch all the differences in my heart rhythms. I have the most common for of SVT, AVNRT(Atrioventricular nodal reentry tachycardia )

AVNRT is caused by an abnormal or extra electrical pathway in the heart. Normally, a single electrical pathway allows impulses to travel from the upper to the lower heart chambers. An extra electrical pathway allows those impulses to travel backward at the same time, starting another heartbeat. During an episode of AVNRT, the electrical impulses continuously go around the two pathways. This is known as "reentry." During AVNRT, your heart rate can increase to between 150 to 250 beats per minute.

In about 3-6 months I am expected to have an ablation. Yaaaaaaaay:)
As scary as it was when i felt my heart stopping on adenosine(it stopped and then a flow of pain circulated from my chest to the whole body, I was like dead for 2 seconds, feels like leaving:))), I am truly happy the doctors managed to find the problem. Some people go years without managing to catch an episode on the EKG.

 

[biala84]

Take Care :) Hope You feeling better..

 

[Konstantin]

It sounds like a very traumatic experience edgitarra. I`m glad that you finally find out what is the problem and i hope that you will be fine. Take care. :)

 

[Gaby]

In about 3-6 months I am expected to have an ablation. Yaaaaaaaay:)

All the best for the ablation.

 

[Meg]

That sounds like a pretty scary experience, Edgitarra. I am glad they caught the episode in action and that you are alright. Best of luck with the ablation. Take care of yourself until then. :)

 

[loreta]

I hope you feel better Edgitarra. And thanks to everybody for the good information about heart food. I tried the other day to eat heart from a pig but it was to hard to eat. I have since one month or more problems with my teeth. Concerning my heart I still have sometimes palpitations, not as strong as the one that brought me to Urgency but palpitations anyway, they last some seconds but they are scary. I am a very nervous person, with a lot of issues that I am working on, I will take more potassium. Today I went for a blood analysis, finally. Edgitarra take care of you.

 

[loreta]

Thanks Oxajil, I've finally found a great place to buy grass fed and finished meats(and grass fed butter) and I've been meaning to start making pate. I'm looking into who their butcher is so I can buy in bulk and start canning. I will look into eating hearts as well, and also I am working with water and it's amazing properties. Exercise, meditation, and plenty of water should definitely help as well, and networking is key of course. But mostly hugs are always appreciated

Glad you were able to find good quality meat. If you and loreta want to prepare organ meat, keep in mind that it can be pretty lean and having it with enough fat is important, that's why I mixed it together with the liver in the fatty paté. You can also ask the butcher to mix meat together for you. Just a thought! All the best to you and loreta, keep us updated

You could ask the butcher to do a split of minced meat and heart (plus fat) in sausage casings. Their are a few delicacies like Haggis and Faggots/Savory Ducks here in the UK and they are super tasty. I would never have imagined i would enjoy the taste but mixed with flesh it gives it a real depth of flavour.

I remember a discussion on the health and wellness show regarding the 'like for like' which i found interesting:

Jonathan: Doug when you were talking about the, 'like treats like' aspect of Homeopathy, that made me think about how they use organs to treat certain organ conditions, or bone to treat (Bad audio) and things like that. I was first introduced to this concept by Dr. Tent who I think we have talked a little bit about before. And if anybody hasn't come across Dr. Tent, look him up, I think he has like forty lectures on You tube and they're all really good. He's a Chiropractor and a Natural Practitioner in Michigan, in the Detroit area. He talked a little bit about what are called Protomorphogens. This is a concept that came up in the 1940's by a man named Dr. Royal Lee who was the founder of Standard Process, the vitamin company. And he posited that cells from certain organs contained the blueprint for the restructuring for that specific organ. So, that if you have a problem with your liver you take liver, if you have a problem with your kidneys you take kidney, for teeth you take bone, things like that. One of the things that really struck me was a story Dr. Tent told about Sacagawea in the Lewis and Clark expedition. And in the journals of Lewis and Clark there is this conversation they had with Sacagawea, at the time she was 17 years old and she had a new born baby and she was feeding the baby raw brain and raw bone marrow.

And they asked, "Why are you doing that?" and she said, "Well, the brain so that he will be smart and the bone marrow is so that he will be strong". And she hiked with these seasoned explorers nearly two thousand miles across the entire country at 17 years old with a baby on her back. So, if you really needed any anecdotal evidence about the strength of that kind of a person, I thought that was pretty interesting.

Also in Dr. Tents experience with this kind of thing in the animal world, he had a patient who came in with a parrot with eye cancer, the eye was bulging out of its head, it was really bad, and there was a tumour underneath the eye. And he said, "Well, I'm not a vet but give it eyeball." And so they looked it up and found that they could order, essentially, dry powdered eyeball, I think it was bovine eye. She fed it to the bird and it was cured. He also had similar experiences with human patients, like one guy with liver cancer, I think it was stage four, he had gone through a bunch of treatments, chemo and so on. And he was like, "I'm here as a last resort, what do we do, I'll try anything." And he said, "Well, start eating liver." And so he started feeding him raw liver and it went into remission. That's just two stories about that but there are a lot interesting things in that area, it's fascinating to me.

Along the lines of what you said Gaby, in terms of Information Theory. The idea that cells from specific organs could contain the information that's needed to rebuild that organ. We may just be going about this whole healing thing in the entirely wrong way. With a lot of the pharmaceutical treatments and the radiation treatments like we're talking about for all these illnesses. When it's been known for thousands of years that, "If you have a problem with this, you take that and that helps that." Like treats like. Fascinating.

Doug: There's a long history of using organs in Traditional Chinese Medicine (TCM). For thousands of years they've been treating specific organ ailments with the specific organ, so there's a long history for that type of holistic healing.

(This also reminds me of when Gurdjieff - i think - talked about people who've had animal organ transplants. Or i may be misremembering but either way that's creepy.)

Also, i'm aware of many women who take dessicated (dried, maybe raw) liver for their adrenals/thyroid (can't remember which), also, i remember cow heart apparently contains the most CoQ10 which is supposed to be very good and i just found this when checking:

(be aware they are promoting grass fed food but the data is useful - also see the Dr Weston Price link further down]
Eat Your Heart Out: Introducing the SUPERIOR Source of CoQ10

CoQ10 was first identified in the mitochondria (the tiny powerhouse of each cell) of beef heart in 1957.

Why the heart?

Because CoQ10 is most abundant in the organs with the highest rates of cellular metabolism –first and foremost – the heart. In fact, CoQ10 levels in the heart are roughly THREE times that found in the liver and FOUR times higher than levels found in muscle meats.

Take a look at the foods that contain the greatest CoQ10 levels per gram:
Food CoQ10 (mcg/g)
Beef Heart 113
Sardines 64
Mackerel 43
Beef Liver 39
Beef 31-37
Pork 24-41
Pork Liver 23
Chicken 14-21
Tuna 16
Lard 10
Butter 7
Eggs 1-4

There are small levels of CoQ10 in certain fruits and vegetables. For example, spinach and broccoli contain about 10 micrograms per gram. But most plant foods have only about 1 microgram per gram – not nearly enough to provide the benefits you need.

As you can see, animal foods clearly top the list. And it is the organs – namely the heart – that contain the most of all. According Dr. Al Sears, M.D. and author of The Doctor’s Heart Cure, the organs of wild, grass-fed animals have up to ten times more CoQ10 than the organs of grain-fed animals. He says:

"Unless you regularly consume wild game or eat internal organs of grass-fed animals, it is difficult to maintain good blood levels of CoQ10 from dietary sources alone."

So, how much beef heart would you need to consume to get the upper limit of CoQ10 recommended by Dr. Whitaker for those with heart trouble?

I’ll save you the calculations. You would need to eat about 1.8 ounces of beef heart to consume 600 mg of CoQ10 daily. On the other hand, you would need to eat only one third of an ounce daily to consume the amount he recommends for “most people.”
Your Recipe for Bountiful Energy, Cellular Health and Longevity

As a muscle, beef heart is the mildest member of the offal family. In fact, it tastes a lot like steak or brisket. And while you can certainly grill or sauté it, or grind it into any recipe that calls for ground meat, a good amount of CoQ10 will be lost during cooking.

In fact, studies show that CoQ10 begins to degrade around 45 degrees Celsius (113 degrees Fahrenheit) and nutrient loss will vary with the cooking method.

A great way to preserve the nutritional benefits and maximize those precious grams of CoQ10 is to enjoy beef heart as the Europeans have for centuries: tartare. ;D

And a link to Weston Price discussing its role etc..
http://www.westonaprice.org/modern-diseases/coenzyme-q10-for-healthy-hearts/

I've been following your thread and actually just came on to wish you all the best loreta

Thanks for this excellent information. There is so much we need to learn about health and not enough time to real all the information. What a beautiful forum is this one where people are so kind and try to help. This is also vitamine for the heart!

 

[Nico]

I pleased that you are both okay edgitarra and loreta. I was thinking about DMSO which Dr Gaby talk about here : https://www.sott.net/article/228453-DMSO-The-Real-Miracle-Solution

I don't know if it is indicated for these running heart problems, but maybe it'll help.

I am now too in the process of seeking the origin of my extrasystols, with Holter and electrocardiogram... I now the very stalking fear of a heart going crazy, I hope you find a lesson in your experience... not a pleasant one I agree.

My experience made me fear a biological problem, but after some tests I've made in the past and nothing was found (I make another test round now just to be sure), I am pretty convinced that there's a very great part of stuck gut emotion in heart "failures", at least in mine. When I have these crisis I often feel burning between solar plexus and profound gut, I also experience like a hand made of nerves taking my left chest.

So take care, and look below the heart, the devil may hide in the intestinal details (known as villi).

 

[3DStudent]

That sounds like a pretty scary experience, Edgitarra. I am glad they caught the episode in action and that you are alright. Best of luck with the ablation. Take care of yourself until then. :)

Hope everything goes well for you edgitarra. Take care. :)

 

[Voyageur]

Wow Edgitarra, that was a scary description concerning you heart issue, how your electrical heart passages work and what you are going to be doing. My very best to you on this restorative heart ablation.

 

[casper]

I think it's an interesting article, Edgitarra and loreta :
"The Many Health Benefits of Coenzyme Q10 and Ubiquinol"
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2016/06/26/coq10-ubiquinol-benefits.aspx

 

[loreta]

I think it's an interesting article, Edgitarra and loreta :
"The Many Health Benefits of Coenzyme Q10 and Ubiquinol"
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2016/06/26/coq10-ubiquinol-benefits.aspx

Thank you very much Casper! I will read the article.