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"Project SERPO" story: HOAX

I think this is to be considered a taunt of SOTT and a evidence as for the effect SOTT work is and has been having on the reality.
 
"Project SERPO" story: HOAX

Fifth Way said:
rs said:
SERPO.ORG is gone!
I came across this thread kind of late and this morning I wanted to fill in the gaps by going to SERPO.ORG only to find what you just quoted. I thought: Ehhhh..what? I must be missing something here! - And indeed I do! LOL.
Well folks I came across this yesterday the SERPO stuff is on a New site

http://67.175.66.68/serpo/

I read he said it was getting to bogged down so now its here in this form...we'lll see

lol

It seems not as up to date as what was online so really I have no clue what will be happening. Par for the course :)
 
"Project SERPO" story: HOAX

christx11 said:
I noticed one other thing. Google does not even have ATS page with Melissa's slander, but MSN which is usually not as good still has it and has it cached - MSN Cache of Melissa Allin's Rant and Lies
Make a screen shot and archive it. I save EVERYTHING.
 
"Project SERPO" story: HOAX

christx11 said:
A valid way of destroying evidence of their own misdeeds? ETHICS?? FAIRNESS???? Standard operating Procedure!!! I can't make a blank statement that this is the purpose of this and similar actions, but these types of things occur so often over there that the pattern they are creating is very damning of their own behavior, and seems to be a normal part of their psyche.
It IS a normal part of their psyche, if they are, as evidence certainly strongly suggests, hand in hand with the current pathocracy, then their vocabulary will reflect that. They use words like Ethics and Fairness in exactly the same way the administration uses such words - their definitions do not match our definitions, it is part of a special vocabulary, that they think only they understand. If you haven't already, read Laura's Political Ponerology article http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/political_ponerology_lobaczewski.html for more information.
 
"Project SERPO" story: HOAX

rs said:
SERPO.ORG is gone!

As in completely. It now takes you to the Namesco Limited domain listing site.
This name has been successfully registered by www.names.co.uk for
serpo.org
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Some Current News...

Message: 7
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 16:24:21 -0000
From: "Dr Michael Salla" <exopolitics@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Hey, what happened to serpo.org??

Hi Bill, the Serpo Website is simply being moved to a different
Server. Below is a message from its webmaster, Bill Ryan.
Aloha, Michael S.


*****
Bill Ryan wrote:
Dear Victor, All:

Ever since I joined this list in November it has amazed me the extent
to which rational, intelligent people jump to conclusions, make
illogical connections, and assume conspiracy where none exists (except
for sometimes, of course!).

A number of forums have already decided that there's great
significance in the fact that the serpo.org site is down.

However, as many of you know, I've learned from interesting personal
experience to totally disregard much of what one reads on the internet :)

The website is indeed currently down, but for no reason other than a
glitch in moving the site to a new server. I believe this should be
completed before the end of this evening US time, and within 24 hours
at the latest.

The new site which I earlier referenced to this list at a different
address (and thanks, everyone, for your feedback; many of your
suggestions will be incorporated) was just a prototype. This is still
being worked on and should replace the old site, at the original
address http://www.serpo.org , by the end of the weekend.

Nothing unusual or sinister happening at all. Apologies for the
disappointment! :)

With best wishes to everyone – Bill
 
"Project SERPO" story: HOAX

Looks like Bill Ryan got the admirers and help he wanted possibly from someone at the lucianarchy forum. The IP looks like a comcast IP right now and the new site looks to be in IIS/ASP with flash, ...

It looks like Bill found the helpers he was fishing for.

efields said:
rs said:
SERPO.ORG is gone!

As in completely. It now takes you to the Namesco Limited domain listing site.
This name has been successfully registered by www.names.co.uk for
serpo.org
If this is your domain name you can now use your online control panel to access your web and email forwarding, DNS control and much more.
Click here to access you control panel.
Account features :
Online control panel
Web forwarding
Email forwarding


Full DNS management
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As they say in California: Like, wow.
Some Current News...

Message: 7
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 16:24:21 -0000
From: "Dr Michael Salla" <exopolitics@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Hey, what happened to serpo.org??

Hi Bill, the Serpo Website is simply being moved to a different
Server. Below is a message from its webmaster, Bill Ryan.
Aloha, Michael S.


*****
Bill Ryan wrote:
Dear Victor, All:

Ever since I joined this list in November it has amazed me the extent
to which rational, intelligent people jump to conclusions, make
illogical connections, and assume conspiracy where none exists (except
for sometimes, of course!).

A number of forums have already decided that there's great
significance in the fact that the serpo.org site is down.

However, as many of you know, I've learned from interesting personal
experience to totally disregard much of what one reads on the internet :)

The website is indeed currently down, but for no reason other than a
glitch in moving the site to a new server. I believe this should be
completed before the end of this evening US time, and within 24 hours
at the latest.

The new site which I earlier referenced to this list at a different
address (and thanks, everyone, for your feedback; many of your
suggestions will be incorporated) was just a prototype. This is still
being worked on and should replace the old site, at the original
address http://www.serpo.org , by the end of the weekend.

Nothing unusual or sinister happening at all. Apologies for the
disappointment! :)

With best wishes to everyone – Bill
 
Laura quote

On her article 'Abovetopsecret.com, Project Serpo Psy-ops, and the Pentagon's Flying Fish' Laura states:

"Signs of the Times is one of the very few news and information portals on the web that remains uncorrupted in any way"

Maybe a silly question but why do you link to and support so many of these corrupted sites on your blog?
 
Laura quote

Can a person comment on corruption, unless they show an example of it (or perhaps many) ? (... many - if they find them.)

It's good to have examples. This is how we learn and come to a personal understanding of how things 'fit in' to our world. Its called information processing. Or that's how I look at it.

You know - the C's comment "All that is, is lessons", it is not a lesson in black or white. Much depends on 'interpretation'. And that isn't a black and white thing, or so it seems.
 
Laura quote

Hi kickstand,

One of the things we work hard on here is discernment. There are very few, if any, of these corrupted sites that do not have some grain of truth mixed in with all the disinfo. In order to get to that truth, the SotT team has to link to these sites. The important thing to remember is that just because a site is referenced does not mean that everything presented on that site is the truth, and, it is a very valuable exercise to sift through all that is there yourself to see if you can find what is truth and what rings untrue or contradictory. It can be hard work, but once you learn to discern the truth from sites like these; to seperate the disinformation from the facts, then you will find yourself applying this to other areas of your life as well. In all cases, the SotT team clearly states that the reader should not take their word for anything, and that the reader should look into things for themself, because the truth, while often hidden, can be worried out of some of the most ludicrous of sources. Like Donald Shimoda said in Richard Bach's Illusions, after Richard pointed out that Don just quoted Snoopy the dog - "I quote the truth where I find it."
 
"Project SERPO" story: HOAX

The Scientology angle is interesting. Take a look at this

http://www.xenu.net/fairgame-e.html

This is the Scientologist's "fair game" policy. Doesn't look very fair to me.

The Scientologist's also have an ET angle in there

http://www.scientology-lies.com/faq/teachings/aliens.html

Do Scientologists believe in space aliens?

"Scientology does teach that many of our problems are caused by the spirits of space aliens that are stuck to our bodies. However, that teaching is considered confidential and is only taught to Scientologists who have reached a certain level, known in Scientology as OT III - so a lot of Scientologists are actually unaware that this is an important Scientology teachi.."
 
"Project SERPO" story: HOAX

Laura said:
Not too sure they are slinking away... what I DO wonder is how do they manage to work so closely with google??? There's some "insider trading" going on there... and that means only one thing...
I disagree.

Search engine optimization is along a readily learned set of rules.

It's possible to lubricate the wheels of the engine with a little liquidity, but that isn't so significant a factor is it?.

If there is real evidence that Google is malleable through more traditional graft and corruption, I would be interested to see that.
 
"Project SERPO" story: HOAX

RichM said:
Do Scientologists believe in space aliens?

"Scientology does teach that many of our problems are caused by the spirits of space aliens that are stuck to our bodies. However, that teaching is considered confidential and is only taught to Scientologists who have reached a certain level, known in Scientology as OT III - so a lot of Scientologists are actually unaware that this is an important Scientology teachi.."
Hi,

You may be interested in the case file against the CoS, The Fishman Affadavit. Lots of crazy stuff in there of Operation Thetans and such.
 
abovetopscret.com EXPOSED!!!!

I'm somewhat oblivious to how the infastructure of the www operates so bear with me a minute.

We explained that we couldn't do that if the site was not working, so they re-activated it.
If you need to hire a server to provide you with the opportunity to exist on the www , and they have the ability to turn your site on and off as simple as you describe,
who does the 'server' apply to for access to the web?
Ultimately, is there one source of access and control that has the power to turn one or all of the servers off and shut down a portion of, or the entire www ?

Are you aware of or do you perceive that there is an entity or 'superpower' in this world with the ability to literally "pull the plug" ?
If so, who are they, or who is 'it'?
If not , how can any governing body or law enforcement agency threaten to deny people of their basic freedom of expressing their 'undocumentable' thoughts?
I once heard that information posted or transmitted online was not valid evidence in a court of law, I'm sure that is changing.

Who draws 'the line' that this forum and many others are not willing to risk crossing?

I know that's a bunch of questions, but I'm asking because it would be nice to KNOW if the threats being made towards our ability to share our personal thoughts are supported by laws that are already written and/or enforced, or if all of the concerns we share about our security exist only because we haven't identified with and questioned the source of intimidation.
Because some ONE either has the ability to manipulate and restrict the flow of data and information throughout the entire world and the www, or not.
Which is it? (that's my only question)

thanks ya'll

oh btw, it's kinda fun playing with the swine at ATS...they crack me up!
SO obvious, but quite frisky.
 
abovetopscret.com EXPOSED!!!!

Submersible said:
If you need to hire a server to provide you with the opportunity to exist on the www , and they have the ability to turn your site on and off as simple as you describe, who does the 'server' apply to for access to the web?
From a backbone, people who own and resell internet connections. Mainly the phone companies or other companies that install the connections, i.e. corporations.

Submersible said:
Ultimately, is there one source of access and control that has the power to turn one or all of the servers off and shut down a portion of, or the entire www ?
Sure. The U.S. government controls the routers, nodes, etc. The alphabet soup people have complete access to all traffic.

Submersible said:
Are you aware of or do you perceive that there is an entity or 'superpower' in this world with the ability to literally "pull the plug" ? If so, who are they, or who is 'it'?
See above.

Submersible said:
If not , how can any governing body or law enforcement agency threaten to deny people of their basic freedom of expressing their 'undocumentable' thoughts?
They've been doing it for years, it's just becoming more overt of late. There's a reason for that, also. Obviously, for a long time it was done somewhat carefully and covertly utilizing paramoralisms and paralogic. Why? Well, obviously, until the ground - the psychology of the masses - is adequately prepared.

You see, if the masses were not in a "special state" to accept certain things, they would rise up and revolt. So creating that state has been part of a long, slow, programming process. You could say that it is similar to the process of hypnotic induction.

But keep in mind that even under hypnosis, a person will not do anything that goes against their "belief center." So, changing beliefs has also been part of the process.

In the process of hypnosis, there are little tests applied along the way. For example, at a certain point, the hypnotist will ask the subject to TRY to open his/her eyes. This will come after being told that the eyelids are so heavy that the subject cannot open them. So, the subject tries, and finds that he can't, and this sudden awareness that he cannot serves only to deepen his trance and the control of the hypnotist over the subject.

The Kennedy assassination was one such test... 911 is a bigger one.

The traumatic effects of 911 were part of the induction. The media constantly repeated to the shocked populace: everything has changed, everything has changed, there are evildoers in our midst, and so on.

In the middle of this, little mainstream media blurbs that the government knew and allowed 911 to happen were flashed on the screen so as to "test" and secure the trance state. This was equivalent to asking the subject, after he has been told that the eyelids are too heavy to open, to open his eyes. It served to deepen the trance even more.

Now, all the disturbing facts are coming, little by little, into the open as more "trance state" tests. These things are risks that the Controllers take, but they do it for a reason: to deepen the trance. That is mostly why they allow many of the things they allow.

There is also the reason that they want to leave the traffic open so they can know everything about everybody and "make their lists and check them twice... gonna find out who's naughty or nice..." Because, of course, there ARE people who are un-hypnotizable.

For example, consider the following:

There are large individual differences in response to hypnosis. Hypnosis has little to do with the hypnotist's technique, and very much to do with the individual's capacity, or talent, for experiencing hypnosis. Most people are at least moderately hypnotizable. However, while relatively few people absolutely cannot be hypnotized, by the same token, relatively few people fall within the highest level of responsiveness (so-called hypnotic virtuosos).

There is some controversy over whether hypnotizability can be modified. Some clinical practitioners believe that virtually everyone can be hypnotized, if only the hypnotist takes the right approach. However, there is little evidence favoring this point of view. Similarly, some researchers believe that developing positive attitudes, motivations, and expectancies concerning hypnosis can enhance hypnotizability. However, there is also evidence that such interventions may only affect behavioral compliance with suggestions, not the subjective experiences that lie at the core of hypnosis. As with any other skilled performance, hypnosis is probably a matter of both aptitude and attitude: negative attitudes, motivations, and expectancies can interfere with performance, but positive ones are not by themselves sufficient to create hypnotic virtuosity.

Hypnotizability is measured by standardized psychological tests such as the Stanford Hypnotic Susceptibility Scale or the Harvard Group Scale of Hypnotic Susceptibility. These instruments are work-samples that are similar to other performance tests. Hypnotizability, so measured, yields a roughly normal (i.e., bell-shaped) distribution of scores.

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Source: Institute for the Study of Healthcare Organizations & Transactions
Submersible said:
I once heard that information posted or transmitted online was not valid evidence in a court of law, I'm sure that is changing.
Yup, it's changing. Personal experience. We recently won a suit regarding material transmitted via the web.

Submersible said:
Who draws 'the line' that this forum and many others are not willing to risk crossing?
We draw our own lines here. These lines consist first of all of not doing what is illegal, period. The second set of lines is variable. We do not like to be, nor do we wish to put others, in physical peril. We've had enough experiences along this line to know who's on first in that respect.

Submersible said:
I know that's a bunch of questions, but I'm asking because it would be nice to KNOW if the threats being made towards our ability to share our personal thoughts are supported by laws that are already written and/or enforced, or if all of the concerns we share about our security exist only because we haven't identified with and questioned the source of intimidation. Because some ONE either has the ability to manipulate and restrict the flow of data and information throughout the entire world and the www, or not.
Which is it? (that's my only question)
No, most of what is being done to suppress is not legal. But unless you have a LOT of money and a lot of time to spend fighting such battles, don't even go there. They can do what they have the money to do. It's that simple. ATS types get away with the illegal stuff they pull inside the US because they have their good buddy, Wayne Jaeschke, to back them up with legal threats. The US is highly hystericized, (Canada, too), and all it takes is a psychopathic threat of a lawsuit to get most people to fold up completely. It doesn't work as well in other countries.

Identifying and questioning the ultimate source of the intimidation is a matter at a whole different level. Certainly there is a "Cryptocracy." And no doubt, some of those folks are into nasty stuff, maybe even including secret society black magick mumbo jumbo, ritual abuse, sexual perversion, and so on. You can name all kinds of groups: Skull and Bones, OTO, Enochian Magick, Kaballah, Masons, etc. It all amounts to the same thing: Pathocrats. These are psychologically deviant people attracted to ideologies that they either believe in themselves, or promote to attract adherents like themselves.

The bottom line is: it's all a load of horsehockey, not any different from the folks that believe that Jesus is gonna rapture them from catastrophe. One side believes in Jesus, the other side believes in Satan (or whoever). The Enochians identify the character as "Choronzon" honored as "that mighty devil" by John Dee's buddy, Edward Kelly.

The plain fact is that all of this nonsense are really distorted (subjective and unscientific) ways of talking about hyperdimensional energy exchanges.

Is there a hyperdimensional entity who thinks he is the Devil? Probably, but it doesn't make it so. The rules of the game are still the same, like gravity on earth: they can't take over people without their willing acceptance and to show their hand too soon would turn everyone against them thus foiling the possibility of them being able to achieve their ends.

Now this is theoretical, but seems to fit the facts. It seems that what the higher levels are after is "loosh," or consciousness in a particular state. For the entropic side, fear and horror are quite delectable. So, if a planetary cataclysm is in the works, (as seems to be the case and only the higher echelons know this), then it is desirable for them to keep everyone as ignorant as possible so that when the facts DO become obvious, they will still be in a state of hypnosis, only waking up at the last instant to be completely permeated with the requisite spice of horror at the extraordinary betrayal. That would then lock all that energy into a whole new cosmic cycle of feeding and loosh providing. In the end, from the purely mechanical point of view, it is only about energy exchanges... and can be succinctly explained via physics and mathematics.

Psychopaths and other deviants represent, in our reality, physical manifestations of the entropic, or "off" energy state. Understood in this way, you don't have to go into some kind of terror state that posits all kinds of weird hierarchies of demons and devils or secret societies that sacrifice virgins and are trying to take over the world. Sure, sick people like that exist and they do that kind of stuff somewhere at some time. But that is only evidence of their deviance, their sickness, their membership in a larger grouping of pathological elements. And the fact is, these elements only make up about 6% of humanity, though they have an extraordinary effect on the rest of us, just like a tiny, virulent bacteria has an effect on a human body and can make it sick or even kill it.
 
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MaskedAvatar said:
Laura wrote:

Not too sure they are slinking away... what I DO wonder is how do they manage to work so closely with google??? There's some "insider trading" going on there... and that means only one thing...
I disagree.

Search engine optimization is along a readily learned set of rules.

It's possible to lubricate the wheels of the engine with a little liquidity, but that isn't so significant a factor is it?.

If there is real evidence that Google is malleable through more traditional graft and corruption, I would be interested to see that.
This would be a good research project for you. We've already compiled a lot of info, including screenshots taken immediately after a google crawl, and then screen shots taken a few hours later after the crawl has been "tweaked."

Notice that if you search google for my name, you will find a particular website that ALWAYS appears at the top, EXCEPT immediately after a google crawl (which seems to be mechanical.) A few hours later, this website is back at the top.

Now, do some tech checks on this website, notice the lack of other sites linking to it, it's low number of hits, and all the other data that indicate that, if anything, this site ought to be located somewhere on page 100 of returns.

There is also, the Vinnie Bridges website that has climbed in ranking recently as a result of his assiduous posting of links to his pages on another forum where (at last count) 72 pages were devoted to libeling and defaming me, my work, our group, etc. He seems to have risen in ranking more or less legitimately as a result of this activity. The Colleen Johnston page, however, did not.

Also, do some checking on Signs of the Times... utilize the alleged "ranking" criteria and see if you don't see some issues.
 

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