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Refus de parloir pour Florian M. : « Rien ne justifie une telle mesure »
Par Marc Eynaud - Depuis trois semaines, le policier auteur du tir sur Nahel n'a toujours pas pu voir sa famille au parloir

Refusal to speak for Florian M.: “Nothing justifies such a measure”
By Marc Eynaud - For three weeks, the police officer who shot Nahel has still not been able to see his family in the visiting room

this is incredible and inacceptale from the french justice: the policeman has made his duty, has clearly expressed his orders, and the victim was too young and too stupid.
i suggest we put the corpse of nahel in prison too...
 

The "young Nahel" affair: a life-size social test​

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Patrick de Pontonx*
Published on July 12, 2023 - 09:30
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According to the author of this column, the Nahel affair is part of an overall context that cannot be ignored.
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*Patrick de Pontonx is a lawyer at the Paris Bar
TRIBUNE/OPINION -
The homicide of Nahel X caused the disorders and violence that we know. It is important to return to these events, which in many respects characterize the state of our society.
One of the first eager reactions in this affair was that of the President of the Republic. Before any investigation was yet initiated, the first magistrate of France declared: "I want to express the emotion of the whole Nation after the death of young Nahel and to tell his family all our solidarity and the affection of the Nation. We have a teenager who was killed, which is inexplicable (...) In this context, it takes respect and affection for young Nahel and his family".

Inappropriate remarks

These remarks, lunar, made from the outset the choice of the party of the victim against that of the policeman. They were reminiscent of those of President Hollande when, in February 2017, he shared an equal eagerness to give his official support to "young Théo" Luhaka, then hospitalized. Mr. Holland then thought fit to declare to the journalists present that Theo was a “young person who has always been known for exemplary behavior”. Once this judgment of authority has been made, the person concerned could only be a victim of the police violence which had led him to the hospital. The newspaper Le Parisien , reporting this fact, then concluded: "Under the gaze of Théo's mother, dignified, with misty eyes, The evocation of the mother underlined the tender aspect of the scene.
Five years later, however, the "young Théo" was condemned with his brothers for a fraud, between 2014 and 2018 (and therefore during a period including the presidential visit), bringing, to the tune of nearly a million euros, on funds from public aid intended for associations for the integration of disadvantaged young people.
This behavior of the public authorities, in itself, is of the highest interest. In a hurry to come to light, they believe they have to implicitly disavow the police from the outset and flatter those who opposed them. No doubt they find themselves spontaneously inclined to it by the natural perversion of their minds. But it is above all that they fear the reaction of the "suburbs", of the "neighborhoods", where they know full well that firefighters, doctors and policemen already enter only with fear, when they still enter them.

One who defies the law

These public authorities know all the explosive power of these territories, which they never have the courage to disarm other than by pretending, on occasion, to befriend them. In front of the angry opponent, the weak dog lies down and rolls onto its back in the hope of coaxing him and being spared. Mr. Macron, and others, ride on their backs. So, adapting their speech to their behavior, here is that the one who defies the law is presented in another way; what he was able to do, why the police arrested or neutralized him and without which the event would never have happened, all this disappears like an erased background image. He who defies the law is no more than a son, a brother, a "young" victim. Since only the violence she suffered now appears, we have to sympathize with it because the victim succumbed to police malice, she has a mother and her friends liked her. Cowardice, complicity and, in a certain way, the betrayal of the confidence of the police are then the price knowingly accepted by the rulers in order to buy a precarious social peace.
There is therefore no reason to be surprised that the behavior of the public authorities, relayed by a judicial laxity repeatedly denounced, greatly encourages certain individuals in the "suburbs" to settle in para-social lifestyles of delinquency which they consider normal, conquered on the common law. It is also not surprising that, at the same time, police personnel are increasingly discouraged from carrying out a profession which exposes them both to the violence of thugs and to the ingratitude, contempt or even blows from the public power that employs him. It is so easy for her to send the police to hell to wipe out the fires of her disastrous policies! To them the vigils, the stress, the exhaustion, the wounds,
This case takes place in a context of growing weakening of the State, which deals with the delinquent world of these "suburbs" as if they were partners with whom to negotiate and who should sometimes be spared. This can potentially be the source of an aggravation of social risks.
In the declaration of the President of the Republic, who, on the evening of these events, went, in his customary lightness, to waddle with his wife at an Elton John concert, there is no offender in the victim, 12 times arrested at the age of 17, yet never convicted, and in a proven situation of delinquency at the time of the facts which cost her her life. There is just a "young Nahel", broke in the prime of life, whose death is "inexplicable". Everything happens as if he had been shot blind by a crazed policeman while he was walking quietly with his family, and not after multiple traffic offenses aboard a racing car he did not have the right to drive, thereby endangering the lives of others. In short, as if he had been, deep down,

language issue

This expression, "young Nahel", is already revealing. MP Anne-Laurence Petel, although belonging to the presidential majority, did not fail to raise it recently on her Twitter account.

Of course one is young at 17 and death is a tragedy. However, it is one thing to consider this youth in itself, and to consider it in relation to the circumstances. In the first case, we apply ourselves to considering only young age in order to incline to compassion; in the second, we relate this young age to the facts, which singularly changes the perspectives. Because then, what appears is that a man, only 17 years old, is already well engaged in the paths of delinquency, which hardly inclines, this time, to compassion. Obviously, it is exclusively to the reception of the first meaning of the expression "young Nahel" that Mr. Macron and the press in general, invite each Frenchman. The "young Nahel" is from all of our family. We cannot be insensitive to the common loss of a loved one. From then on are acquired our “respect”, and our very “affection” , says the President of the Republic.
For a bit, while the policeman already publicly considered guilty is behind bars, Mr. Macron would publicly sympathize with the pain of Mbappé, so dear to his heart, of having "pain for (his) France" and would cry with him. the loss of a "little angel".
Since then, framed by the Traoré family, the victim's mother has called for "revolt" . This did not move Mr. Macron, nor did the fact that she later decided to end it. The riots that we know have occurred, where anger, false anger, manipulation and simple savage desire to pillage have mingled. The extreme left, always at ease when it comes to chaos, throws oil on the fire, inviting at least implicitly to continue the violence, that the thugs (those who break, those who burn media libraries, schools, buses...) have qualified as "justice". Obviously Macron's angelism did not work.
The police paid a heavy price. More than 250 wounded to date, of which we will be excused to recall that they also have families, which no official speech will really move. Like I said, that's their job. In Marseille, two off-duty police officers were ambushed and seriously injured, including stab wounds. More recently, a policeman was beaten up in Bobigny in front of his 2-year-old daughter. Always effective, the Macronian discourse replied to this violence that it was "inadmissible". Big deal ! Perhaps it will take a few policemen being killed for Mr. Macron, in particular, to leave his moon and finally take stock of the situation, although in the balance, the life of a policeman will never weigh same weight as that of a rioter. The disappointed seductive verbiage followed, as everyone knows, the capricious but sterile authoritarianism so fond of the master of Élysée.
In this regard, the imbalance that journalists or "specialists" strive to maintain in the respective treatment of the policeman and the "young Nahel" in this affair calls, it seems to me, for the following two corrective observations.
The first is that the self-proclaimed judges of the policeman, who hastened to find him guilty, from the journalist to the overpaid footballer, not to mention the director Mathieu Kassowitz, are usually people exposed to the major risks of biting their tongue while eating or to injure themselves in their noble sporting or artistic activities. The police officer in question, like his colleagues, exposes his life or his physical integrity to daily violence, with an often derisory salary, to defend the safety of all in the continual anguish of his own family. ). Whether or not we like the police is a fact, which should encourage more modesty in the judgments made. Many police officers are injured or killed in their missions throughout the year without this arousing the slightest sympathy. The success of the kitty opened in favor of the family of the police officer concerned in this case, to the great displeasure of Mrs Borne in particular, who is concerned about the far-right origins of this initiative, shows that many French people are not dupes of this injustice, beyond the political chapels.

Contempt of the police

The second observation is that the policeman in question, a former soldier, was until then, whether we like it or not, exemplary in his profession. Even more: he did his duty daily in the exercise of this profession, with the risks that we have mentioned. I say his duty. The fact that he may have – justice will decide – make a mistake in this exercise does not change anything in this continued desire to fulfill his duty. In this he deserves respect. Nahel, on the other hand, led a life at odds with this requirement. Already at 17, he usually lived in contempt of the law, of authority, of the police. The facts that caused his death are facts of proven delinquency, which he himself caused. In this, this man does not deserve special respect, with due respect to Mr.
These circumstances make it possible to recall that, in a normal political society, there is an “up” and there is a “down”, and that the State must ensure this order, unless it ruins all social life. Above, the interest of the country and the service of the State; below, and always, delinquency, its multiple ramifications and its multiple actors, whatever their age. A stab wound from a 15 year old or a 40 year old adult does not make a big difference. It will almost be necessary to be grateful to the rioters for allowing this to be remembered. And to also remember that in a situation of proven delinquency, it is in this case the policeman who is above and below the one who does not respect the law,
Certainly, a police officer can commit a fault in the exercise of his functions, like any person in his, including a head of state, even though he has the privilege of absolving himself of it every day, all shame drunk, by his political tricks. Under no circumstances, however, can a government worthy of the name make common cause, in any way whatsoever, with the fate of a proven offender. Both common sense and honor oppose it. And above all the meaning of the State, which presupposes both. But here, for the sense of the State to be exercised, there must still be a statesman. Mr. Macron, a pretentious sophist of questionable morality lost in politics, is certainly not one.
Above also the dignity of service and the love of France, and below those who do not do everything to love her. Down also those who by their cowardice, their blindness and their incompetence lead this society to violence, without ever finding any other remedy, for decades, than subsidies, sterile city policies, demagogic speeches or repressions, and who only seem to reserve their hatred for those who aspire to see this country straighten out without them.

Notes:

(1) See the book by Aurélie Laroussie and Perrine Sallé, Whores for cops , the daily hell of law enforcement families , Ed. Ring, Paris 2022.

i did not read in details, because too long.
but: i sympathise with the policeman because he did his duty. he was in a situation beyond his control and the so-called victim did not obey: "auch das opfer hat schuld".
how can a president side with the criminal and punish his law enforcing officer.
 
As a treeworker, I worked in the Paris region, in certain sensitive areas (over 15 years ago already!) to avoid any problems (burning of nacelles left on site, bombardment of garbage from buildings, theft of equipment...) with the gangs and traffickers in place (very rarely with the rest of the inhabitants). Once, when we were pruning a line of trees in one of their weed trafficking areas, they tried to chase us away, thinking we were policemen disguised as treeworkers spying on them, fortunately, we had a guy from their 'tribe' in the team who had been converted to the world of work, and after being reassured that we really were treeworkers, the little leader of the group even asked us to prune the trees a bit more, so that they could see better police arrive.
Even though things were tense, there was always the possibility of an arrangement via the caretaker/concierge, the 'big brothers'.

Sarkozy didn't just put France back under NATO's military command, he also abolished the local police , who were doing their job well on a daily basis and deserved the trust and respect of the citizens they worked alongside, and not just in the towns, as the gendarmes were doing in the countryside, all the while raising the ambient temperature to their superiors.
Although it was far from perfect/rosy, the atmosphere was open et more quiet.

At the moment, most police contacts in these areas are hit-and-run operations that generate more noise and frustration than real results, to the satisfaction of Darmanin and Macron.
And the funny thing is that delinquents have become more accustomed to the guys from the BAC (anti-crime brigade) as representatives of local law and order!

Getting back to the Nahel case, I don't know if it's been said, but the context of article L453-1 is important in the reaction of the police officer involved:
In the exercise of their functions and dressed in their uniform or the external and visible insignia of their quality, the agents of the national police and the soldiers of the national gendarmerie may, in addition to the cases mentioned in article L. 211-9 , to use their weapons in cases of absolute necessity and in a strictly proportionate manner:

1° When attacks on life or physical integrity are made against them or against others or when armed persons threaten their life or physical integrity or those of others;

2° When, after two summonses given aloud, they cannot otherwise defend the premises they occupy or the persons entrusted to them;

3° When, immediately after two summonses addressed aloud, they cannot compel to stop, other than by the use of arms, persons who seek to escape their custody or their investigations and who are likely to perpetrate , in their flight, attacks on their life or physical integrity or those of others;

4° When they cannot immobilize, other than by the use of weapons, vehicles, boats or other means of transport, whose drivers do not obey the order to stop and whose occupants are likely to perpetrate , in their flight, attacks on their life or physical integrity or those of others;

5° With the exclusive aim of preventing the reiteration, in a short time, of one or more murders or attempted murders which have just been committed, when they have real and objective reasons to consider that this reiteration is likely given the information they have at the time they use their weapons.
Article L435-1 - Code de la sécurité intérieure - Légifrance
It's vital, because we've passed the emergency stage, to have another framework, because roughly speaking, the bold part of the article says that a police officer can fire, admittedly at the fleeing vehicle, but in this case with a death, and the life of the police officer put on hold, we're a long way from serving and protecting, order and justice on both sides.

This is compounded by the media outbursts from political leaders who accuse people here and there, while the courts themselves have not decided anything.
 
Someone bring back together 3 different videos of the event and did some analyse.

It's hard to have definitive conclusion but globally it's true that the whole give the impression that the video shoots are very clean and did by some professionals.

There are two other points he pick which seems strange:
- Cardiac massage on someone who had the thorax stabbed by a bullet. Perhaps @Gaby can give her opinion. Perhaps there's no much other medical option you can do given such circumstances.

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- Sunroof and driver's window of the car open in the "reference" video and then closed in the cardiac massage video.

Another point we can see and he did not pick, is the passenger going right in the arms of policemen instead of running away as he said in his deposition: "I ran away, I thought they might even shoot me. So I ran."
(French) "Je me suis enfui, je pensais que même moi ils pouvaient me tirer dessus. Du coup j'ai couru."

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It's all in French and 30 minutes long:
 
J'en ai entendu parler aux infos hier soir, il s'agit d'Erythréens en Suede
Des affrontements entre partisans et opposants du gouvernement érythréen ont eu lieu jeudi dans la banlieue de Stockholm et ont fait 52 blessés à l'occasion d'un festival organisé par des partisans du gouvernement érythréen, a indiqué la police suédoise.

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Par Boulevard Voltaire - Une grande majorité des émeutiers interpellés est de nationalité française, mais d'origine maghrébine ou africaine.

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