April Drop Dead Date
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Thor
Jedi Council Member
I thought I'd pitch in my two cents on the significance of the upcoming Pluto-Uranus square. I'm a trained astrologer but have never worked with mundane astrology which is the astrology of nations (or to be more specific the world - le monde).
As always with astrology it's important to have a sense of perspective. Astrology is an intuitive symbolic language and whenever someone says that this particular aspect means this or this planet in that sign means that one should always take such statements with a grain of salt.
The Pluto-Uranus square with Pluto in Capricorn and Uranus in Aries is quite significant, none-the-less. If we try to take the square apart, the normal interpretation of the symbols are the following. Pluto represents a force that breaks down that which stands in the way of truth so that that which is true may grow up. It is likened to the Phoenix that dies so that it may be reborn. This force manifests itself in Capricorn that among other things represents structure, order and long-time planning. As such Pluto in Capricorn can be said to represent a breakdown of old long held structures in order for the new to break forth, somewhat like a revolution.
Uranus represents suddenness, swiftness, originality and abstract or even universal thinking. Aries represents an impulse that sets something in motion in a given direction. As such, Uranus in Aries could be interpreted as a sudden change in direction or starting down a path based on a higher level of understanding.
The square is the strongest developmental aspect in astrology and the aspect that holds the most tension. Furthermore, Pluto and Uranus are both collective planets meaning that the force they represent influences the collective unconscious and therefore the masses of people rather than just the individual person. The square builds up tremendous tension and when Pluto and Uranus are involved things break down. There's the possibility for learning and growth on the collective level but that only happens if there's a shift in understanding. In other words this breakdown of old structures can lead to the beginning of a brand new more universal direction. But that doesn't come by itself. It requires a shift in understanding. If that shift in understanding doesn't happen on the collective level, all you get is the destruction and a missed opportunity for a new beginning.
The astrology that we practice when dealing with people or affairs of this planet is geo-centric astrology. This means that what were looking at is the relationship between the different planets as they move around their orbits as seen from Earth. While they circle smoothly around the Sun, from Earth it will sometimes look as if their motion is backwards. This is called retrogradation and is due to the fact that one planet moves faster than the other planet and therefore the slower planet looks as if it's traveling backwards when seen from Earth, just like two trains running at different speeds. The reason I mention this is that one of the consequences is that a transit (planetary aspect) such as the upcoming square between Pluto and Uranus happens not just once but either one, three, five or seven times. The upcoming square between the two planets is the 5th out of 7 squares spanning the period June 2012 to March 2015. Most often in astrology change is manifested on the last time the planets make an aspect. There are various interpretations as to what exactly takes place at each of the interim squares but normally it can be experienced as different facets of a given issue are being activated each time. But it's important to remember that the actual change (from an astrological perspective) almost alway happens on the last time the planets make the aspect. In this case, that means March 2015 and what's going to happen in April and December of 2014 is just like activating a part of the overall theme.
Another interesting thing to look at is history repeating itself and looking at when this particular configuration happened in the past. The last time that Pluto in Capricorn squared Uranus in Aries is almost 3500 years ago in the period around 1420bc. According to the "official" timeline of biblical events this is the time of Moses and the Red Heifer. I know that the timeline of the Bible is not to be taken at face value so I'm not sure of the significance of this. But if my memory serves me correctly, this is also pretty close to one of the last meteor-periods if they have a 3600 period and we're overdue at the moment.
It's very much like the Cs say: all there is is lessons. If you don't understand the lesson, you'll get it again until you get it. However it may be another 3,500 years or 309,000 years until this particular opportunity presents itself again.
All this to say that, as I see it, we're definitely living in interesting times astrologically speaking but I don't see the .... hitting the fan this April :)
As always with astrology it's important to have a sense of perspective. Astrology is an intuitive symbolic language and whenever someone says that this particular aspect means this or this planet in that sign means that one should always take such statements with a grain of salt.
The Pluto-Uranus square with Pluto in Capricorn and Uranus in Aries is quite significant, none-the-less. If we try to take the square apart, the normal interpretation of the symbols are the following. Pluto represents a force that breaks down that which stands in the way of truth so that that which is true may grow up. It is likened to the Phoenix that dies so that it may be reborn. This force manifests itself in Capricorn that among other things represents structure, order and long-time planning. As such Pluto in Capricorn can be said to represent a breakdown of old long held structures in order for the new to break forth, somewhat like a revolution.
Uranus represents suddenness, swiftness, originality and abstract or even universal thinking. Aries represents an impulse that sets something in motion in a given direction. As such, Uranus in Aries could be interpreted as a sudden change in direction or starting down a path based on a higher level of understanding.
The square is the strongest developmental aspect in astrology and the aspect that holds the most tension. Furthermore, Pluto and Uranus are both collective planets meaning that the force they represent influences the collective unconscious and therefore the masses of people rather than just the individual person. The square builds up tremendous tension and when Pluto and Uranus are involved things break down. There's the possibility for learning and growth on the collective level but that only happens if there's a shift in understanding. In other words this breakdown of old structures can lead to the beginning of a brand new more universal direction. But that doesn't come by itself. It requires a shift in understanding. If that shift in understanding doesn't happen on the collective level, all you get is the destruction and a missed opportunity for a new beginning.
The astrology that we practice when dealing with people or affairs of this planet is geo-centric astrology. This means that what were looking at is the relationship between the different planets as they move around their orbits as seen from Earth. While they circle smoothly around the Sun, from Earth it will sometimes look as if their motion is backwards. This is called retrogradation and is due to the fact that one planet moves faster than the other planet and therefore the slower planet looks as if it's traveling backwards when seen from Earth, just like two trains running at different speeds. The reason I mention this is that one of the consequences is that a transit (planetary aspect) such as the upcoming square between Pluto and Uranus happens not just once but either one, three, five or seven times. The upcoming square between the two planets is the 5th out of 7 squares spanning the period June 2012 to March 2015. Most often in astrology change is manifested on the last time the planets make an aspect. There are various interpretations as to what exactly takes place at each of the interim squares but normally it can be experienced as different facets of a given issue are being activated each time. But it's important to remember that the actual change (from an astrological perspective) almost alway happens on the last time the planets make the aspect. In this case, that means March 2015 and what's going to happen in April and December of 2014 is just like activating a part of the overall theme.
Another interesting thing to look at is history repeating itself and looking at when this particular configuration happened in the past. The last time that Pluto in Capricorn squared Uranus in Aries is almost 3500 years ago in the period around 1420bc. According to the "official" timeline of biblical events this is the time of Moses and the Red Heifer. I know that the timeline of the Bible is not to be taken at face value so I'm not sure of the significance of this. But if my memory serves me correctly, this is also pretty close to one of the last meteor-periods if they have a 3600 period and we're overdue at the moment.
It's very much like the Cs say: all there is is lessons. If you don't understand the lesson, you'll get it again until you get it. However it may be another 3,500 years or 309,000 years until this particular opportunity presents itself again.
All this to say that, as I see it, we're definitely living in interesting times astrologically speaking but I don't see the .... hitting the fan this April :)
Thor said:
This sounds like what Gurdjieff called Sooloinensius or a period of tension and dissonance resulting from the electrical tension between planets. This can be felt as a thirst for freedom leading to an 'inner revolt' towards inner transformation and freedom via Work on oneself as well as the questioning of the meaning and purpose of existence and life on Earth. Or the tension can lead to an outer revolt for the majority leading to mass psychosis and just causing more violent revolution, bloodshed, and mindless destruction just like what occurred with Hitlers Germany. This is where the Totalitarian regimes use 'truth' (i.e., the truth is what they say it is using force) so as to impose an absolute certainty on what is, in reality, an uncertain changing reality. I was even thinking that, possibly, because humanity is questioning the reality of the status quo at deeper levels then ever before then the missing airliner might be humanity signaling to itself to remember that reality is open, fluid and changing and not so certain as the Totalitarian governments want us to believe, or something like that. Just a theory of course!
Thor said:
Or, right on schedule if the timeline has been artificially extended by some amount, which seems to be the case.
Very interesting observation. One wonders if certain planetary configurations/relationships open portals between realities?
happyliza
The Living Force
As this astrological prediction for April suddenly appeared for the first time on my FB via a friend I thought I would have a listen. Mainly because this thread was fresh on my mind from this morning.
The guy seemed to be quite dedicated to his work so I would be interested in what other folks here think. I found it amazing that he picked up on the bigger picture including Ukraine, which I have never come across before with astrological information, so I found that quite refreshing. However he seems to say it as it is.
Info on uTube says :
Carl Boudreau
8 hours ago
Hello, Everybody,
If you are receiving this message, it means my April astrology video is live.
April has been heralded as an important month, with its two eclipses and another one of those Grand Crosses in cardinal signs, and I discuss that.
I think it is more important because it probably marks the official roll out of the New Paradigm and the promise it brings.
This video is somewhat speculative and, after I present my case, I leave it to the viewers to decided if the New Paradigm is a real thing and if it functions as advertised.
The video is approx. 36 minutes and can be viewed here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DH5Kxqyli5A
The guy seemed to be quite dedicated to his work so I would be interested in what other folks here think. I found it amazing that he picked up on the bigger picture including Ukraine, which I have never come across before with astrological information, so I found that quite refreshing. However he seems to say it as it is.
Info on uTube says :
Carl Boudreau
8 hours ago
Hello, Everybody,
If you are receiving this message, it means my April astrology video is live.
April has been heralded as an important month, with its two eclipses and another one of those Grand Crosses in cardinal signs, and I discuss that.
I think it is more important because it probably marks the official roll out of the New Paradigm and the promise it brings.
This video is somewhat speculative and, after I present my case, I leave it to the viewers to decided if the New Paradigm is a real thing and if it functions as advertised.
The video is approx. 36 minutes and can be viewed here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DH5Kxqyli5A
luke wilson
The Living Force
happyliza said:
Watched the video. Nicely done.
My criticism is that he hasn't taken into account the power psychopaths and pathological people wield. I can't see april being a positively transformative month on a societal level. The psychos and pathologicals won't have any of that... When he talks about money, wages and labour... Again, the whole edifice is built on exploitation, hierarchy, elitism, profit maximisation, playing one against the other etc that I just can't see any of that changing voluntarily - psychos and pathologicals won't have any of it...
So to me that is my criticism. His analysis doesn't take into account the pathologicals who have unyielding power. In my view, framing it in terms of the 99% v 1% circumnavigates how it should really be framed, normal vs pathological.
l apprenti de forgeron
The Living Force
Mr. Scott said:Ooor....
http://www.sott.net/article/275880-New-doomsday-poll-99-9-risk-of-2014-crash
And there have already been quite a few "splats" with all these bankers chucking themselves off/out of buildings.
Thanks for sharing, Mr. Scott. Very interesting, and disturbing. On the imminent financial crisis we could emulate the prophets?. I mean, to know how things possibly will happen perhaps we just have to see a few decades ago. "The Apocalypse" in a financial sense, completely happened in the Great Depression, it seems to me. Even then it was over completely the game, the big bankers had grabbed everything and most people had nothing. But then there was a need to rebuild the post-war system to get people back to trust the system, to project into the system, to work and generate wealth. So it was allowed to implement Keynesian measures, etc. The crazy of the whole thing is that after seeing the mess that the bankers did in the 30', nothing changed for them, have more power than ever. It's really like a recurring nightmare, because the foundations of the system are the same, just change the appearance. How a deadly bubble like that was allowed to inflate again!?. And worse, the financial bubble traps the rest of bubbles and affects everything in a world where consumerism and mercantilism subjugated all humanism.
The financial system really looks like a mirror of the mind of the psychopath, one of illusory bubbles (deadly to normal people if believes in their lies). The mind of the psychopath it's not materialistic, as organic portals or mechanical people, or maybe is another kind of materialism. Like a virtual or holographic mind, as has been said in "Beyond Insanity" thread. They dematerialize life in a very nihilistic way. They create money out of nothing, above the true limited resources that the planet have at a given moment, or what it can produce and consume a normal society. Psychopaths are a true reflection of the nothing, because nature has not created them. Therefore they have no entity or destiny in life, only depredate nature and humanity everything they can while supplies last, hindering our evolution.
sacriface
Jedi Master
Just a few days left to see what this mysterious month brings about..
After a quick search on the forum on Paul La Violette's work I saw the mixed feelings about his theories.
Mainly his idea regarding the electromagnetic super-wave, which could be the effect of a large amount of mass dumped into the black hole at the centre of the Milky Way.
In the session from Sept 25 1999 the C's said we are unable to predict such events as of yet.
But nevertheless, on top of the heap there is possibly this G2 gas cloud (maybe holding a star within) going to get sucked into the Saggitarius A in the very near future; end of this month, or thereabouts.
A major munch for Sag A, whatever the effect could be, if any, is also a significant cosmic event in itself. OSIT.
link:_http://www.space.com/24362-milky-way-black-hole-gas-cloud.html
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After a quick search on the forum on Paul La Violette's work I saw the mixed feelings about his theories.
Mainly his idea regarding the electromagnetic super-wave, which could be the effect of a large amount of mass dumped into the black hole at the centre of the Milky Way.
In the session from Sept 25 1999 the C's said we are unable to predict such events as of yet.
But nevertheless, on top of the heap there is possibly this G2 gas cloud (maybe holding a star within) going to get sucked into the Saggitarius A in the very near future; end of this month, or thereabouts.
A major munch for Sag A, whatever the effect could be, if any, is also a significant cosmic event in itself. OSIT.
link:_http://www.space.com/24362-milky-way-black-hole-gas-cloud.html
edit:typo
jsf
Jedi Master
From a french blog :
_http://www.lepouvoirmondial.com/archive/2014/03/21/alerte-france-detournement-boeing-777-tentative-d-attentat-n-5328531.html
more infos in english : _http://www.jewishpress.com/indepth/front-page/eclipses-red-moons-and-chanukah/2013/11/27/
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_http://www.lepouvoirmondial.com/archive/2014/03/21/alerte-france-detournement-boeing-777-tentative-d-attentat-n-5328531.html
more infos in english : _http://www.jewishpress.com/indepth/front-page/eclipses-red-moons-and-chanukah/2013/11/27/
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jsf, I think we can easily see that the descriptions of the "coming of the son of man" pretty much replicate ancient descriptions of cometary disasters, Tunguska like events, etc. so they are unlikely to have anything to do with the so-called "blood moons."
For me it looks like another distraction. His theory is very popular and his book is a bestseller, so there might be a possibility that it's just a part of the Program.
Here is interesting video that debunks his theory: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7RpXXEea0Q
Here is interesting video that debunks his theory: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7RpXXEea0Q
Altair said:
John Hagee is one of the most successful evangelistic dominionist congregation leaders in the US, so I'd say yes its definitely part of the "program." His huge televangelist following take his every utterance as gospel. There will be no shortage of true believers in this psyop silliness.
Duke
Jedi
I don't know if it's the certain articles I'm reading at the moment or something else entirely, but just this last week or two, it seems there's a new flavor of..... dare I say it "hope" ...... Very interesting info with Dmitry Orlov's video interview in the bottom link... and a great piece about an alternative system put forward in the first link below. BUT.... I have a voice screaming in the back of my mind saying "THEY'LL NEVER LET IT HAPPEN!!!!". With American Christian evangelist's hoping that WW3 starts soon so Jesus comes back, and the like. Its becoming a real "head scratch-er" to see how all this unfolds over the next month and into the futurekenlee said:
http://www.sott.net/article/276093-The-Ukraine-Crisis-and-Vladimir-Putin-A-New-Financial-System-Free-from-Wall-Street-and-the-City-of-London
http://www.sott.net/article/276078-Dmitry-Orlov-on-the-Ukraine-crisis-and-Americas-self-destruction
