Archetypes and Self Expression

Laura said:
Let me clarify something here, at least from MY perspective: having a tattoo, or even a couple of them, having pierced ears, navel, or even a nostril, isn't the issue I have here. Heck, having two or three piercings in your ears can be attractive especially with a bit of bling there. My issue is with the overboard thing, entire bodies defaced with repellant art, tongues pierced, lower lips, eyebrows, cheeks, other body parts, and hanging bits of metal, chains, symbols of mechanicalness, all over, etc.

Thank you Laura for taking the time to explain. Personally when I see the extent of some body modifications, I first feel a bit queasy and then sad. That people would feel so bad in their own skin that they would go to such extremes is sad, I think.

I would venture an explanation, which is probably a simplistic one, but still: people are lost, they no longer have any reliable 'benchmarks' and basically anything goes. That, coupled with the fact that people need to belong, to feel like they are a part of a larger group and the total lack of healthy rituals and 'anchoring' events, I think that some people will look to these modifications as a way to fill this void.

Of course, there will always be people who simply get a tattoo because they think it's fun (or because they were drunk) so it's not always very profound but often enough, when you ask people about each individual tattoo, the story behind it is interesting: it will symbolize the loss of a loved one, their struggle (with addiction very often), a lesson learned, letting go of a part of their lives, a commemoration of some sort. That is to say, things/events that, in a 'normal' society, should have been dealt with and integrated differently. But that society does not exist.

Now, for extreme body modifications (Lizard man, Cat Man, Zebra Man - ! Please don't google their names if you are sensitive !), there is something interesting, like a common theme: these people no longer want to look human. Many turn to animals appearance as something to aspire to. Maybe they are disappointed by the human race? Maybe they feel closer to animals? We've had several discussing about OP's here and perhaps they could fit the profile?

And this not wanting to look human anymore is gaining in popularity, it would seem: looking like a machine (bio-mechanical trend), looking like an alien (all sorts of weird implants), looking stupid ('donut' implant on the forehead in Asia). I think a large part of this phenomenon is purely publicity-based. Like Rick Genest, a virtually out of work model whose popularity went through the roof once his whole body was tattooed to look like 'a decaying corpse'. I guess some people would do anything to be famous and the Internet probably has not helped in this respect: lots of people out there trying to one-up the others by doing something always more extreme...
 
My knowledge in archetypes might be lacking but in self expression, between "one size fit's All" verses the other end of the spectrum, "anything - go's" which in the last 9-10 years has seemed to blend into one another on the social scene, I sense we have lost our self worth and personal dignity, somewhere along the line. It's like we no longer define ourselves as man or woman but something in between. The inner insecurity leads us to latch onto something tangible outside ourselves, to belong and be part of society.

I think, in many ways, our culture has been manipulated in this direction with forced migration from environmentally stressed areas or war torn zones and having cultures merge with one another, losing their own unique individuality and traditions. Holidays and special days of Observance have been combined or eliminated. We're all turning into Zombie's with no past and no future.
 
If a person feels like they don't fit into the model that society is forcing them to be, this may be a way for them to learn who they are. With memories of past lessons being wiped out at birth, it seems like you have to keep learning the same lessons over and over.

In my case, I needed to learn many things again. Most times I only needed to attempt some things once to figure out that I never want to do that again, or just to stop the action because that wasn't who I was. In order to be true to myself, I first needed to understand who my true self was. The opportunities never seem to end, but now it seems to be more easy being myself and living accordingly. I don't need to try and fit in because I now understand that this world is hijacked and operating in a manner that goes against pretty much everything that I think it should operate like. All are lessons comes to mind, and in my case the opportunities for learning are/have been plenty.

My daughter, 26, has had a few piercings . I let her know that I was not a fan of this, however I supported her choice. I think she was 8 or 9 for the first piercings. All of her friends already had them. She cried and got an infection, yet got more through her teen years. Now, she doesn't use the holes except for the first ones, for ear rings. She now thinks the rest of them are/were not necessary. So, it ended up being a good lesson and possibly making other choices less difficult to understand for her, as was my experience with these lessons.

I never liked being told what I can and can't do, wanting to make my own decisions about that based on who my true spirit is and how I thought things should be. I guess one could say this relates to both STO and STS, seeming to be a part of this 3D experience.
 
In africa, in some tribes, at least when I was growing up, might have changed now, who knows, enlightenment might have struck since, boys get their uhmm appendage 'trimmed' a la jewish style, just before teenagehood, uhmm as a sort of rite of passage. To be more specific, "To make you into a man" and keep the tribal traditions flowing smoothly through the generations. Whilst we are on this subject... how come this act is seen as purely Jewish, how did the Jews manage to infiltrate tribal societies down in Africa? God only knows what it must have been like back in the day when actual death could result from failure to pass through these so called tribal rites. I remember hearing rumours when I was young of maasai kids having the great misfortune of having to go face to face with a lion.. Ah, just another day in the savannah... what new ways to traumatize the little ones and make the rest of their lives oh so very joyful.

Anyways, back to the good old chop, at least the Jewish kids get it forcibly done when they can't comprehend what's going on...

Added: From a tribal point of view, at least from my own experience, the whole aim of these mutilations, rites of passages and the like, was the fear/terror brought upon you. To be taken essentially from an innocent place, told what's going to happen and why it must, and then put through it... that's a whole load of fear & terror that you'll be going through in those moments. Some may call it trauma building and infusing on a very deep level.
 
MusicMan said:
Having a circumcision, while painful - especially to adult males, offers some protection against disease in this area of the body, and in the localities where this is practiced.

I have to disagree that circumcision is beneficial and therefore necessary to perform on anyone, but infants in particular. The myth that it protects against disease is just that, a myth:

Why the benefits of circumcision are based on false assumptions, erroneous conclusions and misleading medical information


On top of that, the procedure is know to cause its own medical and psychological issues:

MRSA Deaths in the US Exceed AIDS Deaths: Circumcision is a Culprit

Infant Died After Contracting Herpes Through Circumcision

Study Links Circumcision to Personality Trait Disorder

Study links between circumcision and autism in boys under 10

Circumcision - Conditioning the Adult by Torturing the Child

Circumcision Risks Too Great Says Surgeon

Circumcision and Psychological Harm

Severe Complications Of Circumcision: An Analysis Of 48 Cases
 
Alana said:
And while we are on the subject, I'd like to bring up the zombie fascination that is SO popular among people of all ages but especially the youngsters, and has me :jawdrop:

Every year in October there are zombie parades in most western cities, where people dress up in rugs and create blood and wounds on their bodies and just walk around. No purpose at all. They look as ugly and disgusting as anything you've ever seen in the goriest horror movies. I was going to put pictures up for examples, but I feel sorry for you all, they are so bad and inhuman looking.

Again, why would anyone put effort into looking like decomposed corpses?

If the sentiment is that humanity is dying, humanity as in the actual humane values and emotions, we should fight against it by putting forth all that is beautiful, and true and humane. Not join in and emulate the entropy! Definitely a display of the ugliest faces in creation if you ask me.

Laura said:
Let me clarify something here, at least from MY perspective: having a tattoo, or even a couple of them, having pierced ears, navel, or even a nostril, isn't the issue I have here. Heck, having two or three piercings in your ears can be attractive especially with a bit of bling there. My issue is with the overboard thing, entire bodies defaced with repellant art, tongues pierced, lower lips, eyebrows, cheeks, other body parts, and hanging bits of metal, chains, symbols of mechanicalness, all over, etc.

Obviously, one could say: "well, if you allow that, where do you draw the line?" There are so many things in our world that are like that: "where do you draw the line if you allow a bit of this or that?" I don't know. You can have naked people in paintings that are artistic, and then there is abusive pornography: where do you draw the line?

Maybe the overdoing of things is a sign of the hystericization of our times? I just wrote on my FB wall:

This morning, things seem as dark - or darker - than yesterday. All these people going around saying "I am Charlie", identifying themselves with a vile, disgusting, propaganda rag is just horrifying. Meanwhile, the rhetoric against Muslims is ramping up to levels that make it sound more like Nazis against Jews than anything I've heard in my entire life. Millions demonstrating in Paris for a cheap, filthy rag that was taken out like the Reichstag fire (i.e. false flag), but they couldn't demonstrate in such numbers for the Palestinians, for the Iraqis, for the Syrians, for the peoples of Donbass, or any other legitimately oppressed and persecuted groups. In short, when you say "I am Charlie", you are saying, ipso facto, "I support the oppression, torture, and murder of others". Thus, you are claiming for yourself the Mark of the Beast.

Somehow, I think there is a relationship between this trend and the over-indulgence in body defacement. I'm not being clear because it isn't entirely clear to me yet, it just feels that way.

I am one of those confused with lines, very thin and blurred ones. How much is much? Thinking about intention and intensification of human degradation, I remember the article Pierre wrote months back regarding human behaviours and catastrophes: http://www.sott.net/article/279645-Mummy-why-is-Daddy-wearing-a-dress-Daddy-why-does-Mummy-have-a-moustache#comment104751.

Perhaps what we are seeing is part of the negative influences, and since there seem to be more negative that positive, we are kind of overwhelm by them. Had not read yet Earth changes and the Human Cosmic connection, but will once it arrives, it takes around a month to get here. What it shouldn't surprised us, is surprising us, good!, isn't it?, I mean, we, as humans shouldn't loose the capacity to be surprised.

Regarding the "I am Charlie" issue, perhaps many people are just following the indignation by ignorance. And ignorance is the mother of all the "sins", because is goes against creation, is like telling the universe that I do not like to learn. Mark of the Beast as Mrs Laura say. And all is lessons.

I am shocked too that so many people cry out "I am Charlie", I suppose, I like to believe that many are doing it by ignorance, bad enough though, badder if they do it cynically.
 
mabar said:
I am shocked too that so many people cry out "I am Charlie", I suppose, I like to believe that many are doing it by ignorance, bad enough though, badder if they do it cynically.


To be honest, I think many people have blindly followed and supported the 'I am Charlie' meme (which was trotted out rather quickly), not realizing that they are supporting a really bigoted, one-sided magazine. A lot of people have just felt for the innocent people being slaughtered, and you can be sure that the lame stream media are down playing the fact that Charlie Hebdo was biased and bigoted especially against the faith of Islam.
 
[quote author=mabar]
I am one of those confused with lines, very thin and blurred ones. How much is much?
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I think the answer regarding where to draw the line can be quite context specific. A related question which I think we often struggle with is whether the criteria we use to "draw the line" are more subjective, that is it has to do with us and our personal biases/preferences, or more objective and universal. The following observations are on this latter question.

Now suppose we come across a picture of a person dressed as a zombie or a person showing off their tattoos or piercings.When we first look at a the picture , there is an immediate appraisal that happens. We could have a positive, negative or neutral impression. This first impression does not involve the thinking function. We should take careful note of this fleeting first impression. Very often, we censor this first impression using various ideas and "isms" that we have picked up from different sources. Our first impression can be of profound revulsion but we sort of say "gee, I should not be feeling that. Who am I to judge what this guy or girl is doing with his or her body. It is their choice, not mine. Also, did I not learn "never judge a book by its cover".

First impressions can be deceiving - so I am not saying that we should accept it hook line and sinker. But remembering the first impression is important as this is a product of feeling and instinct/intuition. It should be given its due, examined and elaborated on more rational lines to judge whether it is really a subjective impression to do with my biases, programs and prudishness or is it something more universal and objective. Taking the zombie example, the rational elaboration process considering the context ( is it a halloween costume party?), study of symbology (how has it been used in historical and/or mythological contexts) , word/image associations (what is it usually connected to) will possibly bring us to a more finely differentiated understanding of the specific situation.

Consider a tongue piercing. Historically, there were tribal rites of a masochistic religious nature where people used to pierce their tongues as a rite of passage, a mark of devotion towards a deity etc. Today, used as an embellishment, there are sexual connotations attached with tongue piercing. Tongue is associated with speech and language in human terms - driving a sharp object through the tongue can be interpreted in various ways, mostly not too positive. Now to show off tongue piercing, the possessor of the piercing needs to hang the tongue out. This action has different connotations in different cultures but generally, it has a negative meaning. Demons in mythology were often depicted with tongues hanging out. The Indian goddess Kali symbolizes darkness and has her tongue out in popular depictions, displaying blood from vanquished foes. So overall, if someone has a negative reaction from seeing tongue piercing images like zombies, I would contend that there are more objective and universal reasons for it than personal bias.
 
whitecoast said:
Uniqueness can be an antidote to not achieving high enough in their native hierarchies, which are often stratified due to social immobility or financial barriers and social connections/privilege. Subconsciously fighting emotional incest and other abuse is probably also a contributing factor. White supremacy groups appeal to desperately poor and disenfranchised whites because it allows them to possess some sort of innate self-esteem. Ditto for damaged people who fly into the arms of church authority to be "saved" and freed from uncertainty and anxiety in life.
I don't understand what's unique about people finding unhealthy ways to feel accepted/loved.

That 's the irony of it though, they're not really all that 'unique' at all. They try so hard to look different on the outside, but usually remain just as mechanical on the inside, if not more so. It seems that their motivation to stand out from the crowd is just a RE-action to the status quo, and not something born of individual will. In the end the look becomes fashionable within the clique and they end up looking like everybody else.

I wonder sometimes if this type of extreme body modification is not a mirror of an unbalanced inner state, as if they are unconsciously externalizing past traumas?

I've had the opportunity to work closely with several people who have prominent facial piercings and multiple tattoos, and with the exception of one crazy person, found them to be mostly kind, intelligent and competent individuals. But this was in spite of their body art and not because of it. I've seen how their chosen lifestyle has limited their employment opportunities in certain areas and I'm sure they would be the same good people without it.

I have a couple small tattoos myself that I got in my 20's, and in retrospect wish I hadn't.

So it goes. :/
 
The people with many tatoos that I know are kinda limited too in their choices of employment. Many regret, others use it to power the victim discourse "the system is unfair" and things like that.

In the lines of the "I want to see you in shock" desire, there is often what seems genuine amazement that people find them strange/disgusting/attractive. Many of the people that I know that choose to cover a lot of the body with tatoos, or to become bodubuilders, react very bad to all the attention they get (apparently). Its like they seek this recognition, and when it finaly arrives, it freakes the hell out of them.
Narcisistic wounding, much?
Of course this like do not apply to every single case. I think there are perhaps malfuncitioning OP's that just desire to externalize their essence, e.g. the guy has the essence of a lion so to say, and modifies himself to become one externally.
 
Iron said:
Many regret, others use it to power the victim discourse "the system is unfair" and things like that.

Yeah, for some, having heavy tattoos and piercings is the ultimate buffer: it's easier to blame the tats than to take responsibilities for not being able to be in a relationship or have a job.
I suspect that some people get all these modifications for that very purpose, actually (perhaps not always consciously). I've known a few punks who would have died rather than have a 9 to 5 job. :lol:
 
This documentary might shed some light on this

They spend their days sifting through reams of market research data. They conduct endless surveys and focus groups. They comb the streets, the schools, and the malls, hot on the trail of the "next big thing" that will snare the attention of their prey--a market segment worth an estimated $150 billion a year.


They are the merchants of cool: creators and sellers of popular culture who have made teenagers the hottest consumer demographic in America. But are they simply reflecting teen desires or have they begun to manufacture those desires in a bid to secure this lucrative market? And have they gone too far in their attempts to reach the hearts--and wallets--of America's youth?

FRONTLINE correspondent Douglas Rushkoff examines the tactics, techniques, and cultural ramifications of these marketing moguls in "The Merchants of Cool." Produced by Barak Goodman and Rachel Dretzin, the program talks with top marketers, media executives and cultural/media critics, and explores the symbiotic relationship between the media and today's teens, as each looks to the other for their identity.

Teenagers are the hottest consumer demographic in America. At 33 million strong, they comprise the largest generation of teens America has ever seen--larger, even, than the much-ballyhooed Baby Boom generation. Last year, America's teens spent $100 billion, while influencing their parents' spending to the tune of another $50 billion.

But marketing to teens isn't as easy as it sounds. Marketers have to find a way to seem real: true to the lives and attitudes of teenagers; in short, to become cool themselves. To that end, they search out the next cool thing and have adopted an almost anthropological approach to studying teens and analyzing their every move as if they were animals in the wild.

Take MTV. Long considered to be the arbiter of teen cool, the late 1990s saw MTV's ratings on the wane. To counter the slide, MTV embarked on a major teen research campaign, the hallmark of which was its "ethnography study"-- visiting teens' homes to view first hand their lives, interests and ask some quite personal questions.

But what lessons do MTV and other companies draw from this exhaustive and expensive study of teenagers' lives? Does it result in a more nuanced portrait of the American teen? In "The Merchants of Cool," FRONTLINE introduces viewers to the "mook" and the "midriff" -- the stock characters that MTV and others have resorted to in order to hook the teen consumer.

The "midriff"--the character pitched at teenage girls, is the highly-sexualized, world-weary sophisticate that increasingly populates television shows such as Dawson's Creek and films such as Cruel Intentions. Even more appealing to marketers is the "midriff's" male counterpart, the "mook." Characterized mainly by his infantile, boorish behavior, the "mook" is a perpetual adolescent: crude, misogynistic--and very, very, angry.

But also very lucrative. To appeal to the "mook," MTV has created programs such as Spring Break -- a televised version of teen beach debauchery--as well as a weekly program capitalizing on the current wrestling craze.

"What this system does is it closely studies the young, keeps them under constant surveillance to figure out what will push their buttons," says media critic Mark Crispin Miller. "And it blares it back at them relentlessly and everywhere."

Of course, there is resistance to the commercial machine. FRONTLINE takes viewers to downtown Detroit, where media analyst Rushkoff speaks with teens at a concert by the Detroit-based Insane Clown Posse, purveyors of a genre of music that's become known as "rage rock." When asked to describe what appeals to them about such music, the teens invariably respond that it belongs to them; it hasn't yet been taken and sold back to them at the mall. Full of profanity, violence, and misogyny, rage rock is literally a challenge thrown up to marketers: just try to market this!

But marketers have accepted the challenge: rage rock is now big business. Not only has Insane Clown Posse become mainstream, but much bigger acts like Eminem and Limp Bizkit are breaking sales records and winning industry accolades in the form of Grammy nominations and other mainstream music awards.

In "The Merchants of Cool," correspondent Rushkoff details how MTV and other huge commercial outlets orchestrated the rise of Limp Bizkit--despite the group's objectionable lyrics--and then relentlessly promoted them on-air.

But in doing so, critics ask, is MTV truly reflecting the desires of today's teenagers, or are they stoking a cultural infatuation with music and imagery that glorifies violence and sex as well as antisocial behavior and attitudes?

In today's media-saturated environment, such questions, it seems, are becoming increasingly difficult to answer.

"It's one enclosed feedback loop," Rushkoff says. "Kids' culture and media culture are now one and the same, and it becomes impossible to tell which came first--the anger or the marketing of the anger."

Therein lies the danger of today's teen-driven economy, observers say: As everyone from record promoters to TV executives to movie producers besieges today's teens with pseudo-authentic marketing pitches, teenagers increasingly look to the media to provide them with a ready-made identity predicated on today's version of what's cool. Rather than empowering youngsters, the incessant focus on their wants and desires leaves them adrift in a sea of conflicting marketing messages.

"Kids feel frustrated and lonely today because they are encouraged to feel that way," Miller tells FRONTLINE. "You know, advertising has always sold anxiety and it certainly sells anxiety to the young. It's always telling them that they are not thin enough, they're not pretty enough, they don't have the right friends, or they have no friends...they're losers unless they're cool. But I don't think anybody, deep down, really feels cool enough, ever."

And as more and more teens look to the media to define what they should think and how they should behave, even some cool hunters are no longer sure that their work isn't having a negative impact.

"Even though I work at MTV...I am starting to see the world more like someone who's approaching forty than someone who's twenty," says Brian Graden, the channel's president of programming. "And I can't help but be worried that we are throwing so much at young adults so fast. And that there is no amount of preparation or education or even love that you could give a child to be ready."
 
obyvatel said:
[quote author=mabar]
I am one of those confused with lines, very thin and blurred ones. How much is much?

I think the answer regarding where to draw the line can be quite context specific. A related question which I think we often struggle with is whether the criteria we use to "draw the line" are more subjective, that is it has to do with us and our personal biases/preferences, or more objective and universal. The following observations are on this latter question.

Now suppose we come across a picture of a person dressed as a zombie or a person showing off their tattoos or piercings.When we first look at a the picture , there is an immediate appraisal that happens. We could have a positive, negative or neutral impression. This first impression does not involve the thinking function. We should take careful note of this fleeting first impression. Very often, we censor this first impression using various ideas and "isms" that we have picked up from different sources. Our first impression can be of profound revulsion but we sort of say "gee, I should not be feeling that. Who am I to judge what this guy or girl is doing with his or her body. It is their choice, not mine. Also, did I not learn "never judge a book by its cover".

First impressions can be deceiving - so I am not saying that we should accept it hook line and sinker. But remembering the first impression is important as this is a product of feeling and instinct/intuition. It should be given its due, examined and elaborated on more rational lines to judge whether it is really a subjective impression to do with my biases, programs and prudishness or is it something more universal and objective. Taking the zombie example, the rational elaboration process considering the context ( is it a Halloween costume party?), study of symbology (how has it been used in historical and/or mythological contexts) , word/image associations (what is it usually connected to) will possibly bring us to a more finely differentiated understanding of the specific situation.

Consider a tongue piercing. Historically, there were tribal rites of a masochistic religious nature where people used to pierce their tongues as a rite of passage, a mark of devotion towards a deity etc. Today, used as an embellishment, there are sexual connotations attached with tongue piercing. Tongue is associated with speech and language in human terms - driving a sharp object through the tongue can be interpreted in various ways, mostly not too positive. Now to show off tongue piercing, the possessor of the piercing needs to hang the tongue out. This action has different connotations in different cultures but generally, it has a negative meaning. Demons in mythology were often depicted with tongues hanging out. The Indian goddess Kali symbolizes darkness and has her tongue out in popular depictions, displaying blood from vanquished foes. So overall, if someone has a negative reaction from seeing tongue piercing images like zombies, I would contend that there are more objective and universal reasons for it than personal bias.
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Yes, the context. I suppose, so this rotten trend is another sign of this life on earth. I see almost daily those kind of rotten trends here as well, there are several stores around selling piercings, that attract most variety kind of people, some with a 5 cm ear piercing, auch! is a very commercial area, there are seasonal stores, like the Halloween corpses/gore figures, in front of another one that sells gnomes/elves and gut visceral out of the body big figures, everytime I pass over the, remind myself to focus on the floor, at 360° there is allways something creepy, a block further toys, having these -from my point of view- beyond creepy barbie style dolls high monster or something like that, that mothers rush to buy to her kids, because is what they asked for this holidays. I went to buy some socks, I liked ones looking form afar, they were white and black color, once I look them closely, no, thank you very much, it was a pattern of "cute" skulls, so the one at the store said. At the store come variety ones too, and I refrain myself to make another face expression that could be consider not polite. Because they are clients, and all are treated with respect. The other day, a homeless girl came to buy a professional comb, she had come ever year for her professional comb, because it is of good quality, and she likes to comb her hair with it (her hair is beyond dirty and is too all of her appearance) she was almost leaving when another client came, and this client make this rejection expression seeing at the homeless girl with so much contempt, talking about appearances and first impressions, so is the world.
 
I'd like to add something, I think some people get excessive tattoos to be in a constant state of stress. After some reflection I believe this is the reason I spent so much time getting tattooed and being pierced. I wasn't allowing myself to heal and feel "normal". It was a way of chasing tension and stress through painful experiences and displaying them like a badge of honour.
Except there is no honour in the mechanicalness of my ponorized behaviour. In an effort to be different in the end I looked just like everybody else. It displayed a complete lack of care for my body, and was/is a reflection of a lack of spiritual nurturing and disrespect for the self.
I have recently taken out almost all of my piercings, and I feel more free.
Meditation is a lot easier and I find myself getting in to a relaxed state much more easily.
It was mentioned that piercings affect the meridians running through the body and that piercings in acupuncture points keep the body in a state of stress.
Perhaps the emphasis on multiple piercings is not only to keep people in a constant state of stress but also to prevent them from connecting with any kind of meditative ease? Does the mutilation keep a person imbalanced affecting the natural flow of energy around the body?
Does all the metal have some kind of effect on the magnetic field of a person? Does it literally affect your FRV? Does energy flowing through the body follow the lines of tattoos thereby scattering energy all over the place?
I can't undo my tattoos but I am curious to understand them and my motivations behind them.
This is a very interesting thread.
 
lainey said:
I'd like to add something, I think some people get excessive tattoos to be in a constant state of stress. After some reflection I believe this is the reason I spent so much time getting tattooed and being pierced. I wasn't allowing myself to heal and feel "normal". It was a way of chasing tension and stress through painful experiences and displaying them like a badge of honour.
Except there is no honour in the mechanicalness of my ponorized behaviour. In an effort to be different in the end I looked just like everybody else. It displayed a complete lack of care for my body, and was/is a reflection of a lack of spiritual nurturing and disrespect for the self.
I have recently taken out almost all of my piercings, and I feel more free.
Meditation is a lot easier and I find myself getting in to a relaxed state much more easily.
It was mentioned that piercings affect the meridians running through the body and that piercings in acupuncture points keep the body in a state of stress.
Perhaps the emphasis on multiple piercings is not only to keep people in a constant state of stress but also to prevent them from connecting with any kind of meditative ease? Does the mutilation keep a person imbalanced affecting the natural flow of energy around the body?
Does all the metal have some kind of effect on the magnetic field of a person? Does it literally affect your FRV? Does energy flowing through the body follow the lines of tattoos thereby scattering energy all over the place?
I can't undo my tattoos but I am curious to understand them and my motivations behind them.
This is a very interesting thread.

I think that the metal definitely has an effect on the FRV of the individual.

Anyway, the topic came up in another thread so thought I would share part of what I wrote there here:

Laura said:
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Well, here is an interesting thing: in general, I do NOT like tattoos and I think that they are totally ugly ON SKIN no matter how prettily artful they are. I can accept one or two small, artistic ACCENTS on the body, but when the tattoos dominate the eye, it seems to me that the person is trying to hide something or divert the attention of others. I also have a bit of a problem understanding why someone would go through that kind of pain to "gild the lily", so to say, to "correct nature." It's kind of like circumcision: if nature intended men to not have foreskins, they would be born that way.

But, that is just my own quirkiness. I happen to think that living creatures are, in and of themselves, works of art and such "improvements" should be modest and discreet... to enhance nature, NOT scream at it. So, this girl's tattoos were a HUGE turn-off to me.

BUT, since I know that our culture has created an environment where tattooing is not only accepted, it is encouraged by slick advertising and role modeling and only the truly independent spirits can evade this programming, I set it aside completely while watching the video. I understood that the girl was just a fairly normal member of her age/culture/society bracket. In fact, the most unusual thing about her was her passion for her work and her urge to share it with others.

Anyway, I found it interesting that she was involved so much with both exploring the limits of mortality AND modifying the body. This may indicate a fear of mortality in her that she seeks to ameliorate by facing it down in her job. Or it may have begun that way, and then her interest and fascination was engaged. This reminds me of an exchange with the Cs on 9 Jan 1996:

Q: (L) Was there some connection between JOs murder and "alien" activity?

A: There is always this connection in one way or another, at one plane convergence or another.

Q: (L) Was the murder of JO a "mini-plane convergence?"

A: What did we just say?

Q: (L) It seemed to me that was what you said, and I was trying to clarify it. Is that, in fact, a plane convergence, where one person's plane of reality converges with another person's plane of reality, and one or the other gets annihilated?

A: 4th, 5th and 3rd density is involved.

Q: (L) Is this true with all murders?

A: Discover and yes.

Q: (L) Was my interaction into that reality a sort of entering into a point of plane convergence?

A: Flirting with the edges.

Q: (L) So, when a person is working on a murder investigation, or thinking about it, or applying thoughts, talents, instincts or whatever to the solving of this kind of puzzle, they are interacting with a plane convergence?

A: This represents one manifestaion of the always present desire to return "home" to 5th density.

So, it seems to me that what this girl is doing, whether she realizes it or not, is a rather spiritual activity.

I should also like to mention that there IS a new method for tattoo removal:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/new-tattoo-removal-cream-promises-to-fade-ink-doesnt-hurt-and-only-costs-3-10051751.html

http://blog.tattoodo.com/2015/02/new-pain-free-tattoo-removal-cream-invented/
 

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