Vonrette Parker
The Force is Strong With This One
28/50 Need a lot of work.
Kisito said:hello, you do not agree with what? I tried to emphasize that the results were not significant. Because it looked like a game. And in a game, we always want to win, but it can be fun. And it makes me smile to see that some identify with the results. The test is not a gospel, but it should make us think.Dakota said:Kisito said:t's fun, I feel that many of us take for fully credible, and put a lot of importance in this test. It's more like a game. Also it depends on how we understand the issues. I think it would be interesting to ask a question that seems essential to me: "If you are the victim of adultery, would you be jealous / envious? Answer: rarely, neutral, never." For me, being "victim of adultery" reveals much our narcissistic behavior. For often in the relationship of the couple, it is our pleasure and our happiness is about. To please our husbands and our wives, we maintain the joy of OUR couple. That is our individual happiness. Because it is rare that a person wants to enjoy her ex. Tell me how envious / jealous you are, and I'll tell you what / how you're narcissistic. As for me most of us are narcissistic, I consider myself narcissistic. Knowledge is to be on the right path. But to believe the test tells you that "you are probably not narcissistic" is perhaps demonstrate narcissism.
Disagree. The importance of "things" depend from different point of view, situation that you are in or just state. My results maybe showed that I'm not sincere to my self or maybe that is the truth. But when I was answering on those question I could't notice that I'm answering how I would like to be the truth. And it was little bit of slap on my face when I felt inside how my stomach is trembling when I realize that I'm still not "good" as much I want to be.
"Knife can kill someone or be great tool to cut your meat to feed your family. It depends of you."
1. Sometimes I get lost in my own thoughts about my problems and my relationships.
2. My feelings are easily hurt by teasing or criticism from other people.
3. I feel emotionally or temperamentally different from most people.
4. When I enter a room, I become self-conscious, and feel as if everyone is looking at me.
5. I don't like sharing credit with other people.
6. I feel like I have enough of my own problems and don't have time to worry about everyone else’s issues.
7. I often take things too personally.
8. I easily get wrapped up in my own interests, to the point that I practically forget that the people around me even exist.
9. I don't like being with a group unless I know for sure that I'm appreciated by at least one of those present.
10. I try not to show it, but I'm often annoyed when people ask me to take my time and energy to sympathize over their problems.
Hi Dakota, sorry if I offended you, perhaps, it was not my inttention. I agree in general what you say, but I have the impression that you have difficulty applying it to you you. I think you know the difference between humor and irony. A key indication of this test on narcissism is "the importance that we give," and take everything at face value. This give importance to yourself, it's also give importance to others and judgments. Ie be susceptibility victim. We are not unique and the others are not unique. I think you should learn to accept laughter and self-mockery, that are not necessarily attacks. You did say all part of progress. And laughter is an excellent remedy (that is a dervish exercise). Being serious is one thing, "is taken seriously" is different. It is a border that is also able to distinguish. This stand on the border, it is also expanding its field of view and knowledge. My smile was not directed against a specific person, but to all of us, including me. Good growth in all of us.Dakota said:Kisito said:hello, you do not agree with what? I tried to emphasize that the results were not significant. Because it looked like a game. And in a game, we always want to win, but it can be fun. And it makes me smile to see that some identify with the results. The test is not a gospel, but it should make us think.Dakota said:Kisito said:t's fun, I feel that many of us take for fully credible, and put a lot of importance in this test. It's more like a game. Also it depends on how we understand the issues. I think it would be interesting to ask a question that seems essential to me: "If you are the victim of adultery, would you be jealous / envious? Answer: rarely, neutral, never." For me, being "victim of adultery" reveals much our narcissistic behavior. For often in the relationship of the couple, it is our pleasure and our happiness is about. To please our husbands and our wives, we maintain the joy of OUR couple. That is our individual happiness. Because it is rare that a person wants to enjoy her ex. Tell me how envious / jealous you are, and I'll tell you what / how you're narcissistic. As for me most of us are narcissistic, I consider myself narcissistic. Knowledge is to be on the right path. But to believe the test tells you that "you are probably not narcissistic" is perhaps demonstrate narcissism.
Disagree. The importance of "things" depend from different point of view, situation that you are in or just state. My results maybe showed that I'm not sincere to my self or maybe that is the truth. But when I was answering on those question I could't notice that I'm answering how I would like to be the truth. And it was little bit of slap on my face when I felt inside how my stomach is trembling when I realize that I'm still not "good" as much I want to be.
"Knife can kill someone or be great tool to cut your meat to feed your family. It depends of you."
If someone is serious about the Work he will see everything like a opportunity to progress, but if someone stand on the border and laugh to others, deceiving himself that he is better than others he will loose great opportunities to learn. At least this is my opinion.
Kisito said:Hi Dakota, sorry if I offended you, perhaps, it was not my inttention. I agree in general what you say, but I have the impression that you have difficulty applying it to you you. I think you know the difference between humor and irony. A key indication of this test on narcissism is "the importance that we give," and take everything at face value. This give importance to yourself, it's also give importance to others and judgments. Ie be susceptibility victim. We are not unique and the others are not unique. I think you should learn to accept laughter and self-mockery, that are not necessarily attacks. You did say all part of progress. And laughter is an excellent remedy (that is a dervish exercise). Being serious is one thing, "is taken seriously" is different. It is a border that is also able to distinguish. This stand on the border, it is also expanding its field of view and knowledge. My smile was not directed against a specific person, but to all of us, including me. Good growth in all of us.
onemen said:External considering would be considering myself lower and considering the others and people higher i guess.
Laura, I read almost all your books, sometimes I cried, sometimes I laughed and I learned a lot. I respect very much your work and I will continue to study it. But it is rare for me to be sure that you are mistaken, because the one who is in my head it's me and not you. You may think I lie, and this is your juguement. So I will not offend me but smile, because the one I admire for his work, may err, and it flatters my ego malheureusent. Thomas Hobbes said, "Man is a wolf to man." Maybe I am, but then most men are wolves. I can hide when I'm afraid that one attacks me, but I'm not Machiavellian. I like going at my ideas and my thoughts, and I do not stop to "a priori". I try never to lie to me, if I dare not say a thing to a person, I do not tell him. But in general I'm not hiding, let alone behind a monton, I did not want to be sacrificed. Kizito, is my real name. And I think being a good person and teach the honest things to my son. However it is interesting to observe how you can see me. Although I have the impression that you do not actually believe what you told me.Laura said:Kisito said:Hi Dakota, sorry if I offended you, perhaps, it was not my inttention. I agree in general what you say, but I have the impression that you have difficulty applying it to you you. I think you know the difference between humor and irony. A key indication of this test on narcissism is "the importance that we give," and take everything at face value. This give importance to yourself, it's also give importance to others and judgments. Ie be susceptibility victim. We are not unique and the others are not unique. I think you should learn to accept laughter and self-mockery, that are not necessarily attacks. You did say all part of progress. And laughter is an excellent remedy (that is a dervish exercise). Being serious is one thing, "is taken seriously" is different. It is a border that is also able to distinguish. This stand on the border, it is also expanding its field of view and knowledge. My smile was not directed against a specific person, but to all of us, including me. Good growth in all of us.
Kisito, do you get up early in the morning and plan all the ways you can be covertly and passively aggressive? You are a veritable wolf in sheep's clothing... Hmmm... didn't George Simon write a book with a similar title? Describes you to a T.
Hello buddy, I thought as I said that I agreed with Dakota, it seems that it is he / she not agree with me. And of course I be not excluded susceptibility, but I try to detach myself. Sometimes we think that others just destroy, but he tries to help. There must also be some misunderstandings due to Google translator. But I'm so in union and not division. We are not yet united, that is why the ideas diverged and the sensibilities meet. But on my comments, I've never deliberately hurt someone. We often spoke of mirror, I think that is the mirror reflection for everyone.Buddy said:Kisito, no one has said or implied Laura is perfect, but from my 3rd party perspective, it looks to me like it's YOUR self-importance hurting YOU.
Let me try and clarify something:
I get your 'game' analogy. There is a 'game' here in the sense that what is being measured is 'bounded' like a field of play. There is an overall objective, along with assumptions as to what a 'score' is to mean, etc., etc. I also understand what you're saying about 'jealousy and the role of adultery' (and that I understand you does not imply agreement or disagreement).
What I think you are not 'grokking' from Dakota's comments is that you may be confusing the idea of "taking it too seriously" with a sincere effort to use this test for what it's worth as data points in her Work. Dakota even says that in her own words. It's significant to Dakota and that's what matters. The exact significance to her is spelled out in one of her replies you've bundled in your quote.
You've already read Dakota's comments with "she is wrong" in mind. Can you now re-read the conversation with "Dakota is right" in mind to see if you can find new insight? IMO, that's a useful exercise 'across the board.'
obyvatel said:Sounds quite sanctimonious. Reminded me of this post of Kisito in a thread where he was arguing that rape brings humility and felt "misunderstood" by others.
Kisito said:I think if we pay attention to the sensitivities of all, it would not be possible to advance an idea or discuss a topic.