Backscatter x-ray machines "tear apart DNA"

[Joe]

Since Terahertz wave scanners have the posibility to rip up our DNA (and cause bubbles), what does it do to foreign DNA in our body (like bacteria and virii)? What would happen to all those people who recently got swine flu vaccine shots and who now go through those scanners? Or are their damaged DNA strands then filled by foreign DNA parts that were in those swine flu vaccine shots? (That last one was me thinking outside of the box, sorry for that)

Very interesting to link it to the vaccine nonsense of last year. There is no depth to their deviousness, and we're going to have to be all ears and eyes if we are going to stay on top of these machinations.

 

[Al Today]

I also thought it was funny how he sidestepped my question about the church being against nudity in public, I mean, my question was asked in the sincere spirit of curiosity and he thought I came with some sort of agenda. Now THAT spoke volumes about the Church of Mormon imho.

I am not defending that church, and I can tell you from experience that I congratulate the boy. They are taught how to protect themselves from all sorts of verbal and yes physical attacks. And they do "see" themselves as possible targets. They get "strange" phone calls all the time and can be quite wary of a given situation. These poor misguided young men are fully programmed and many are ready to see GeeBus rather than deny their faith. On the other hand, MANY are "pushed" into missions and serve missions unwillingly, let's say their full heart ain't into it... Years ago, one of my boys spent two years in Mexico and another did two years in Honduras. They think me a little "weird" with the Work, but they respect my views and we do talk...

Anybody know any good mormon sites to check out and post links to the above or any former mormons who want to express outrage?

Yep, lots of them... Here's just one I've read...
_http://www.exmormon.org/

A site for those who are

Questioning their faith in the Mormon Church

And for those who need support

As they transition their lives to

a normal life.

... they have a lot of money ...

Now that you bring it up... They got moe money than you'd think. How many millions of members multiplied by 10% tithing of ones' increase (that's gross, before taxes) is mucho deneros.!.!.! With vast invsetments income and properties, hotels, malls, and more... An exceptional good ole boys club. Thinking about my old mormonic days, I do miss members helping members. Doctors, attorneys, realtors, mechanics, carpenters, plumbers, and anything else you can think of. All I had to do was make a phone call and the "call line" was activated. Someone will help somehow. Good gawd, yeah, if they'd get on the bandwagon to fight something, the MSM would haveta take notice... Ain't gonna happen...

And oh yeah, so ya know they all ain't sheep, we got neked...

... Mormon women wear "the garment" even when having sex!

Somewhere, I KNOW someone takes that as "gospel"... Hoo-Boy, the stories I could tell...

 

[Erna]

[quote author=Puck]
Hmm well I was curious so I went over to the church of mormon website and 'chatted live' with a missionary. Here's a transcript of the conversation:

Missionary: Hello

Me: Hi, I had a question about the church's position on these new x ray machines at airports, I dunno if you've heard of them, but apparently they let the security guy see you, well, naked.

Missionary: I haven't heard of them, but the church doesn't have a stance on it.

Me: Oh here's a link if you want to read up on it: _http://tech.yahoo.com/blogs/null/154196

Missionary: OK

Me: Maybe you can clear it up for me, I thought the Mormon church was against nudity in public and other indecencies. Am I mistaken?

Missionary: What do you hope to gain from chatting with me today?

Me: I wanted to learn more about the church and its position on violations of privacy rights.

Missionary: They don't have a stance on it.

Me: That seems odd to me, but thanks for clearing it up.

Missionary: You bet.

[/quote]

I'm sorry, maybe it's just me, but this conversation comes off as one of those computer conversations, and this particular computer didn't have an AI budget...

 

[aragorn]

Reading the comments about mormons in this thread made me feel nervous about that someone could use parts (like: 'they have alot of money...' as ammunition against us. Of course, almost anything taken out of context can be used in a wrong way, but this just stood out IMO so clearly. This forum should probably (knowing the recent history) have nothing to worry about, but it could save some trouble to avoid someone calling: "They are trying to hoodwinkle the Mormons and take their money..."

Just something I strongly felt while reading, please ignore if my "rant" was whitout a cause :)

 

[anart]

Reading the comments about mormons in this thread made me feel nervous about that someone could use parts (like: 'they have alot of money...' as ammunition against us. Of course, almost anything taken out of context can be used in a wrong way, but this just stood out IMO so clearly. This forum should probably (knowing the recent history) have nothing to worry about, but it could save some trouble to avoid someone calling: "They are trying to hoodwinkle the Mormons and take their money..."

Just something I strongly felt while reading, please ignore if my "rant" was whitout a cause :)

Well, I'm not really sure where you got the idea I was suggesting anyone hoodwink anyone. My statement was regarding the fact that with their resources, if they wanted to get the spread of these scanners stopped, they could. They strongly effected the outcome of legislation in CA about proposition 8, for goodness sake, with funding for commercials/advertising and religious organizations are supposed to be prohibited from getting involved in political processes!

It was not an insult of the Mormons - I'm sure they don't think having almost unlimited resources is a bad thing - I'm just saying that IF they were so inclined, (and it seems like they should be!) that they could make a difference with this issue that would benefit all of humanity.

As far as 'getting in trouble' for what is typed on these pages, this is a public internet forum and we just proved in a court of law that people have the right to state what they think (within reason) on internet forums - didn't we? ;)

 

[Buddy]

I just walked thru the living room where someone is watching the "news" and I overheard Neil Cavuto. Seems like he wants his listeners to believe that everyone has summed up the issues over these xray machines as "better seen nude and alive then dead and dressed."

Gotta love that 'sound-bite' thinking that keeps us all on top of the issues (sarcasm).

 

[Pierre]

Since Terahertz wave scanners have the posibility to rip up our DNA (and cause bubbles), what does it do to foreign DNA in our body (like bacteria and virii)? What would happen to all those people who recently got swine flu vaccine shots and who now go through those scanners? Or are their damaged DNA strands then filled by foreign DNA parts that were in those swine flu vaccine shots? (That last one was me thinking outside of the box, sorry for that)

Another hypothesis: maybe these terahertz rays could activate some components included in the vaccine and/or desactivate some natural protection against this vaccine?

Anyway, it's interesting to try to find some links between those two events because these are the two recently imposed "processes" that a non neglectable percentage of the world population went (will go) through.

 

[aragorn]

Reading the comments about mormons in this thread made me feel nervous about that someone could use parts (like: 'they have alot of money...' as ammunition against us. Of course, almost anything taken out of context can be used in a wrong way, but this just stood out IMO so clearly. This forum should probably (knowing the recent history) have nothing to worry about, but it could save some trouble to avoid someone calling: "They are trying to hoodwinkle the Mormons and take their money..."

Just something I strongly felt while reading, please ignore if my "rant" was whitout a cause :)

Well, I'm not really sure where you got the idea I was suggesting anyone hoodwink anyone. My statement was regarding the fact that with their resources, if they wanted to get the spread of these scanners stopped, they could. They strongly effected the outcome of legislation in CA about proposition 8, for goodness sake, with funding for commercials/advertising and religious organizations are supposed to be prohibited from getting involved in political processes!

It was not an insult of the Mormons - I'm sure they don't think having almost unlimited resources is a bad thing - I'm just saying that IF they were so inclined, (and it seems like they should be!) that they could make a difference with this issue that would benefit all of humanity.

As far as 'getting in trouble' for what is typed on these pages, this is a public internet forum and we just proved in a court of law that people have the right to state what they think (within reason) on internet forums - didn't we? ;)

I guess my comments were mainly directed towards that smiley in Al's post that was rolling with laughter. Somehow I felt that the "evidence was in" that we were making fun of the Mormons-which didn't fit the "live and let live" principle that I think we all advocate. Well, reading it all again made me see that I was too hasty in my commenting and that Al's smiley didn't represent what I initially thought it did.

 

[Al Today]

I guess my comments were mainly directed towards that smiley in Al's post that was rolling with laughter. Somehow I felt that the "evidence was in" that we were making fun of the Mormons-which didn't fit the "live and let live" principle that I think we all advocate. Well, reading it all again made me see that I was too hasty in my commenting and that Al's smiley didn't represent what I initially thought it did.

Actually that smiley has been bugging me. It shows me that I was willing to make jokes on another person. Quite the unsympathetic bully getting jollies at the expense of others. At the time I was smiling because my thoughts were of my childish self-centered, egotistical perception of those "funny" monotheists and their misguided, ignorant ways. I feel shame after some monster program activated and I am feeling the after effects of emotions to again feel "better than them". Sometimes the mirror pops up on me on unexpectedly. Like using my face to walk into a door.

 

[RedFox]

Well I started digging a little and am finding the terahertz really interesting. Seems its being pushed in several areas recently....some possible dots to connect?

I've highlighted a few possibly relevent points
_http://www.brucherseifer.com/html/dna_analysis.html

DNA Analysis

One of the prominent challenges of biotechnology is the development of simple and flexible systems for the rapid analysis of genetic material. These are important for widespread applications in medicine and biology like, e.g., the detection of changes in the DNA encoded chain in patient’s blood for the early diagnosis of diseases or gene therapy or the detection of specific signatures of viruses and bacteria.

The essential procedure of detecting specific DNA sequences is based on a simple principle. DNA chains consist only out of four different components, which themselves can only bind in pairs respectively. Thereby two single chains can only bind together, if their components sequence is exactly complementary.

When separating (denaturing) this bound DNA (patient DNA) and combing it with a synthesized sequence (probe DNA) these can only bind (hybridize) if the complementary sequence of the probe DNA is part of the patient DNA. For conventional means the probe DNA sequences are placed on determined positions of a "Biochip". By labeling the patient DNA with e.g. fluorescent molecules it can be detected afterwards. But this means an additional preparatory step, which furthermore induces uncertainties in the analysis.

Therefore there is a great effort, to evolve new technique, that can probe this hybridization state without the need of additional marker labels. Several calculations showed, that a multitude of resonances (base twisting, helix, ...) in a DNA system that depend on the binding state (denatured - hybridized) are within the THz frequency range. Although these calculations are not precise, because the assumed interactions are not exactly known, they already allude the high potential of THz spectroscopy for analysis of the DNA binding state.

Our first experiment demonstrates, that it is indeed possible to distinguish two DNA samples consisting of the same source material but once being hybridized and once being denatured. They were dropped onto a sapphire substrate, dried and subsequently analyzed by time domain THz spectroscopy. As a result, it can be seen, that the time delay of a THz pulse through the hybridized sample is bigger than through the denatured sample. Described as refractive index (Fig. 2) this is a higher value for the hybridized sample over a broadband frequency range. The sensitivity of this experiment cannot compete with conventional methods. It can rather be seen as a proof of principle, that the binding state of DNA can be probe by THz spectroscopy without any further marker labels.

New approaches developed in the group of Peter G. Haring Boliver to increase the sensitivity of this method, based on wave-guide devices including resonator structures already demonstrated the detection level in the femtomol range.

So the above may add a little weight to the DNA being ripped appart, if the DNA bonds resonate at Thz frequencies.

I did wonder what other uses tearing DNA appart would have (beyond royally screwing up your cells/body).....I couldn't find anything to back it up, but did wonder about bird flu needing to combine with human flu to become nasty to us....perhaps it'll help it recombine?

_http://www.springerlink.com/content/9044g0421077n674/

Abstract The terahertz region is between the optical wave and the so-called microwaves; it had not been studied until 1963, when Nishizawa started the development of a THz wave generation based on the character of lattice or molecular vibrations. In 1979, Raman laser oscillation was realized using GaP, and in 1983, the oscillation of lattice vibration (12 THz) was achieved by mixing with the original wave. Recently, many kinds of oscillators have been developed: LiNbO3 and others for parametric oscillations, TUNNETT diode, so-called Ballistic SIT, etc. These frequencies can induce lattice or molecular vibrations, observable through reflection or transmission. Therefore, terahertz technology is useful for detection of toxins, including bacteria and viruses. It can be applied for investigation of structural changes in molecules, including those caused by disease or medical treatment. At the same time, it can heat up selectively a specified structure of a polymer and, hence, may be used for thermal treatment, or to enhance the reaction with a specific structure, suppressing side effects.

So I'm wondering how long these things will be used to detect/track viruses by using a walk through scanner? Perhaps they may be touted as the next medical breakthrough in regards to caner or something similar (just step into the scanner and be 'healed').......
What I do wonder is what it is capable of telling the PTB....can these scanners (and this is just speculation) be used to precisely record your DNA and/or viral carrying status? Remotely engineer specific DNA and/or viral elements? Or perhaps just target specific parts of the body or specific tissues in the body for 'heating'.
Never mind just having your DNA ripped appart.....given that what its capable of looks pretty astounding anyway and that most technology being pushed is probably 4D STS influenced....what is its precision for reading and alteration of the human body may be a better question? Blurry naked images or cellular DNA sequencing?
fwiw

 

[RedFox]

Extending my theory above, I suddenly remembered some of what the C's said....

http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/supernovae.htm

Q: (L) The other night we were talking about the "Mark of Cain" and I lost part of the tape. I would like to go back over that a little bit more at this time. What was the true event behind the story of the "Mark of Cain?"
A: Advent of jealousy.
Q: (L) What occurred to allow jealousy to enter into human interaction?
A: Lizard takeover.
Q: (L) Wasn't the Lizard takeover an event that occurred at the time of the Fall of Eden?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Was this story of Cain and Abel part of that takeover?
A: Symbolism of story.
Q: (L) This was symbolic of the Lizzie takeover, the advent of jealousy, and the attitude of brother against brother, is that correct?
A: Partly. The mark of Cain means the "jealousy factor" of change facilitated by Lizard takeover of earth's vibrational frequency. Knot on spine is physical residue of DNA restriction deliberately added by Lizards. See?
Q: (L) Okay, Jan is going to move her hand up my back and you tell her when to stop at the "knot".
A: Okay.
[Area indicated just at occipital ridge.]
Q: (L) You mean the spinal structures at the occipital ridge?
A : Yes.
Q: (L) What was the configuration of the spine and skull prior to this addition?
A: Spine had no ridge there. Jealousy emanates from there, you can even feel it.
Q: (L) Do any of these emotions that we have talked about that were generated by DNA breakdown, were any of these related to what Carl Sagan discusses when he talks about the "Reptilian Brain"?
A: In a roundabout way.
Q: (L) Okay, at the time this "Mark of Cain" came about, were there other humans on the planet that did not have this configuration?
A: It was added to all simultaneously.
Q: (L) How did they physically go about performing this act? What was the mechanism of this event, the nuts and bolts of it?
A: DNA core is as yet undiscovered enzyme relating to carbon. Light waves were used to cancel the first ten factors of DNA by burning them off. At that point, a number of physical changes took place including knot at top of spine. Each of these is equally reflected in the ethereal.

Given terahertz waves are between infrared light and microwaves, does that classify them as light?

Q: (A) Which part of a human extends into 4th density?
A: That which is effected by the pituitary gland.
Q: (L) And what is that?
A: Psychic.
Q: (A) are there some particular DNA sequences that facilitate transmission between densities?
A: Addition of strands.
Q: (L) How do you get added strands?
A: You don’t get; you receive.
Q: (L) Where are they received from?
A: Interaction with upcoming wave, if vibration is aligned.
Q: (L) How do you know if this happening?
A: Psycho-physiological changes manifest.

So...with some horror I may add when I thought of this....could it be possible they are trying to knock off any additional strands of DNA to keep people in 3D? It strikes me as something 4D STS would try and do......its also wildly speculative.

 

[anart]

Extending my theory above, I suddenly remembered some of what the C's said....

I had similar thoughts along these lines. I was also thinking of those who are detoxing and possibly repairing DNA strands in various ways having that work reversed or slowed by these technologies. I have no idea if that's even plausible, but it crossed my mind.

 

[Laura]

The question becomes: if you need to travel, how do you do so without having to go through this nonsense?

 

[Meg]

The question becomes: if you need to travel, how do you do so without having to go through this nonsense?

I'm not sure it would work, but we can use the 'it's against my religion' excuse. Although, it would draw attention to the persons asserting it.

6.7. On PaleoChristian Rights
We recognize that PaleoChristianity is founded on Free Will and the elimination of physical, psychological, and spiritual toxins from our bodies, communities, and souls. As such, we recognize our right to be exempt from compulsory, impure and/or injurious vaccinations and/or medications (see 6.1. On the Law of Exclusion); from service in any armed forces, police force, or militia (see 3.5. On Human Creation and 3.6. On Human Destruction); to choose our diet without discrimination or persecution (see 6.1.); to smoke tobacco without discrimination or persecution (see 6.4. On the Use of Drugs); to choose our own family relations, education and educational environment, and to live freely in our own communities and to structure them according to PaleoChristian principles (see 6.6. On Soul Communities); to have free movement between our Companionships of Ancient Science and Spirituality; and to refuse to act in any other way that is in conflict with the core principles of PaleoChristianity.

 

[go2]

I have some traveling to do and wonder what response the TSA etc. might have if I request a patdown search to circumvent the "backscatter x-ray machine" and possible DNA damage. Does anyone have experience with asserting one's concerns and suggesting an alternate to the "borderguards"?