Before I leave my country Japan...

[davey72]

If I were in this situation, I would probably be thinking the same thing about wanting to leave the immediate disaster zone, especially now that it appears things are out of control.

Things are getting out of control or are "under" control everywhere.
I`m not going to suggest that you leave or stay in Japan, that needs to be your own decision, for the right reasons.
Nowhere is "safe" and it seems that even if a place with few natural disasters could be located, the man made ones would be likely anyway.

The horror of the situation is more evident every day.
You will know what to do. Be safe.

I disagree with this. For the next few weeks I would rather be anywhere than Japan. Even Afghanistan. Exposure to radiation will cause problems the rest of your life, mostly anmuch higher risk of nasty cancers.

I don't know how valid my opinion is, but i would have to certainly agree!! I mean with Mr. premise's last paragraph

 

[fabric]

Hi Aya,

Let me know if there is anything I can do to help in terms of air tickets etc. Last I checked with Air Canada and there were flights on Saturday but they are now sold out. There's one on a Sunday but perhaps there are earlier flights on other airlines...

Although there hasn't been any news saying the situation has worsened, the MSM has a bad habit of downplaying the dangers and that's a big concern. I understand it's a big decision to leave your family and friends as well as job, so I understand that it's not an easy thing.

The other thing I was concerned was that if they are able to manage to cool down the reactors, then the risk to Tokyo would be minimal I think. But if not, then better safe than sorry! After reading reports about a lot of companies making or offering to relocate expats, seems like the best course.

Anyway, we're here for you! Please be as safe as you can...I'll keep my eye on the news for any updates.

 

[semjase]

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HAARP AGAINST JAPAN...

_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRNyte66LTQ&playnext=1&list=PL0001A170E43A93DF
_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NuSyHNjMZ0
_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGP_vzuTyO8

 

[anart]

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HAARP AGAINST JAPAN...

_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRNyte66LTQ&playnext=1&list=PL0001A170E43A93DF
_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NuSyHNjMZ0
_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGP_vzuTyO8

This is disinformation - it is not true - please read the posts earlier in this thread.

 

[Navigator]

Hello Aya,
If you know and feel that you have to leave, even for a moment, do so. The most important is to preserve yourself and to give yourself the most optimal conditions to recuperate and rest from these difficult moments. You have friends in Canada and you may have some help. You can also find a job or something later but for now, think first about how to heal and recuperate yourself. Do not be afraid of moving and just have some faith and courage.
We're all with you in mind.

I second what mkrnhr is saying !

And I third this. Take care Aya, you are in all of our thoughts.

I am with mkrnhr and the rest on this one, situation is getting out of control too fast and you probably have to make up your mind pretty quickly if you haven't done so. How about keeping your health with the recommendations against radiation posted

here

http://mail.sott.net/articles/show/225865

and here

http://www.sott.net/articles/show/225893-Iodine-Tocotrienols-Berries-and-Lipoic-Acid-to-Protect-Against-Radiation-Exposure

And this forum topic

http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=22389.0;topicseen

Doing it while at a safe distance?

Edit: added link

 

[knowledge_of_self]

I read in the paper today that all the expats are fleeing back to their respective countries, if I were in Japan, I would be like "You had me at Nuclear Reactor."

When people start tossing around words like Chernobyl, and Meltdown etc, the first thing that would come to my mind: Vacation time, party of me.

The worst if you leave: No job.
The worst if you stay: No life.

Be strong Aya! Just tell your boss the truth, you are scared and you need a week off to see family and friends. It's not forever, hell, it might only be for a couple of weeks tops, if everything works out, you just come back, and get a new job, no harm, no foul.

As for money concerns, you can always get more money, you can't get more seconds.

Atreides took the words right out of my mouth. Aya, you should try and leave ASAP! At least for a little while. Job/money, etc will work themselves out once you get to Canada. Your health/life is more important than anything! You're in my thoughts, and keep us posted

Hi Aya. I am just curious as to why it took talking to yer friend on the forum to come to this decision? Has the japanese government/media not been telling the people that it is very serious?

From my understanding the Japanese government is down-playing the entire radiation situation. For example this article states:

The Japanese public was also unconvinced by its government's reassurances. The mayor of Minimisoma, which is 12 miles from the Fukushima plant, said: 'We weren't told when the first reactor exploded, we only heard about it on television. The government doesn't tell us anything. We are isolated. They're leaving us to die.'

 

[jordifs]

I have been told the military is surrounding the main island and firing at people that try to leave by ship.
This is serious.

Hope this is only a "conspiracy theory" as it points to some kind of veto, to avoid japanese people leave the country.
European people is returning by airplane.

I hope Aya will move out of the country and confirm this issues are just "theories" not real actions taken by the government.

Good luck Aya!

 

[Aurgo]

Hi Aya,

IMHO if you have the support over there in fabric you should definitely go for it!

Someone mentioned earlier about work visas and stuff, to my knowledge all the Commonwealth countries like Canada, Aus, N.Z etc almost

treat Japan as though they are member nation so there is no drama on that one, which with fabric there you should already be aware of that but just in case..

All the best and I hope you and your loved ones come through unscathed!

 

[Niall]

I have been told the military is surrounding the main island and firing at people that try to leave by ship.
This is serious.

Where have you heard about this from?

Good luck Aya!

 

[Starlight]

Hi Aya,

Your safety is utmost importance. I hope you do understand that now with all the replies here.

As for your job, is it possible to still have your job and work remote? When foofighter decided to move, he talked to his boss and now he is working remote as his job allows him too. All he need is internet connection and lots and lots of skype meeting. Is it possible for you to do the same? It's an idea worth considering given the circumstances and nature of work, of course.

Good luck and our prayers are with you and the people of Japan in this time of tragedy.

 

[Pierre]

HI Aya,

I agree with others. The level of risk is so high that leaving, at least temporarily, looks like the right decision.

The Japanese public was also unconvinced by its government's reassurances. The mayor of Minimisoma, which is 12 miles from the Fukushima plant, said: 'We weren't told when the first reactor exploded, we only heard about it on television. The government doesn't tell us anything. We are isolated. They're leaving us to die.'

As usual in this kind of event the level of disinformation / misinformation is scary.

This morning I heard on a French news radio station the testimony of two journalists who just came back from the forbidden area (a 20 km radius circle around the nuclear plant).

The discussion went like that :

Host : how did you manage to go there ?
Journalist : we just drove in there.
H : did you have some protection equipment, some radiation detector ?
J : no we had nothing since we didn't plan to go there initially.
H : so why did you go finally ?
J : we met an army captain who told us the wind was blowing towards the East, so the area was safe.
H : How long did you stay there?
J : Only two hours. We immediately left when we learn that the captain said the area was safe because he heard it on TV.

 

[Aurgo]

The discussion went like that :

Host : how did you manage to go there ?
Journalist : we just drove in there.
H : did you have some protection equipment, some radiation detector ?
J : no we had nothing since we didn't plan to go there initially.
H : so why did you go finally ?
J : we met an army captain who told us the wind was blowing towards the East, so the area was safe.
H : How long did you stay there?
J : Only two hours. We immediately left when we learn that the captain said the area was safe because he heard it on TV.

Heard it on T.V you have got to be kidding me!!! ????

 

[adam7117]

Aya,

Sounds like your mind is already made up - go for it! Plenty of good advice has already been given to you so no point in repeating that. How soon can you go? Judging by the situation, you may not have that much time - a couple of days maybe, if the worst-case scenario were to happen...

One thing - bring essential documents with you. A few of past bills, bank statements etc. Things that will prove your residence, income and bill history. School and birth certificates, etc. You may be able to leave quickly - but how soon will it be before it is safe to come back?

My thoughts are with you. Take care and be brave!

 

[Risen]

Hello Aya,
If you know and feel that you have to leave, even for a moment, do so. The most important is to preserve yourself and to give yourself the most optimal conditions to recuperate and rest from these difficult moments. You have friends in Canada and you may have some help. You can also find a job or something later but for now, think first about how to heal and recuperate yourself. Do not be afraid of moving and just have some faith and courage.
We're all with you in mind.

I agree completely! If you feel and "know" you should go then don't think about your "future". Good Luck!

 

[Chu]

Sorry to disagree with most of you here, but I think this situation needs more thought than just "get the heck out of there!"

Aya, does your family live in Japan? Are they "safe" there, all things considered? Is there anything you could do to help them?

In your situation, I would only move to a place within Japan from which I could help. I would never forgive myself if I left someone who is asking for help, only to be safe myself. (Are they asking? - that's another story)

When everything is lost, and you have no possibility to help others, that's one thing. But right now a lot of people have no shelter, no food, no help from the government, plus the nuclear threat. Isn't there something you can do from there?

Honestly, if you leave, will you be able to say that you did something to help? Whatever was in your hands?

The world is burning, and the only thing "good" about crises is when people get together in true solidarity. But in this case, embassies from all over the world are helping their expats go back home instead of helping the Japanese people. Do French, Mexican, etc. lives have more value than the Japanese? That really makes me angry. It is playing with lives, and the world is turning its back to Japan.

It is really a difficult decision. But IMO you need to think about these things too before deciding to leave. Whatever you decide will be right when you have considered what is right, what is wrong, and the specific situation.

FWIW,