Blood Type Diet - Peter d'Adamo

Jeep said:
think we all need to stop and think for a minute as to how completely brainwashed we may be regarding milk! If you actually read the information presented (did you two actually read it?), it's clear that it is not a harmful, deadly, or even fattening substance (Among CLA's many potential benefits: it raises metabolic rate, helps remove abdominal fat, boosts muscle growth, reduces resistance to insulin, strengthens the immune system and lowers food allergy reactions.) - in fact, just the opposite!

Jeep said:
Are either of these opinions based on objective fact? Let me be clear, after almost a lifetime of drinking whole milk, and eventually switching to skim milk, I also had come to believe that millk was entirely meant for cows, not people! But that is exactly the message that has been firmly planted in our minds!!! And, as you can clearly derive from the above information, there is a gigantic difference between raw milk from grass fed cows and pasteurized/homogenized milk from grain fed cows. Also, please note the beautiful, straight, white teeth of the natives featured in the video. Contrast that with the proliferation of crooked teeth and the eventual break down of teeth as we age requiring replacement with dental crowns. Funny how fluoride isn't doing that great a job of keeping our teeth strong!

Just like the rest of our food supplies, our milk industry has been infiltrated and taken over by corporate interests with the resulting huge profits for them and bad health for us. Don't you think it's rather odd that the three most nutritional/beneficial substances on earth - raw milk, cannabis/hemp, laetrile - have been made illegal! Please don't let your personal dietary bias contribute to the suppression of the real, verifiable benefits of raw milk for human consumption.

May i say that maybe raw milk seems to be like a "sacred cow" for you.

Have-you thought about that?

As far as i am concern, any kind of milk products by a animal is for the offspring of this kind of animal.
 
In his book "Santé, Mensonges et Propagande" Thierry Souccar devotes a very interesting chapter about milk.

According to him, 80% of Asian, 80% of Africans and 60 % of Mediterranean people cannot digest it. They just don't have the enzymes to do so. The others tolerate it to a certain extent due to a mutation helping them to digest it. So, raw or not is not the issue here.

Milk is linked to prostate and other cancers (Sweden, the European record of milk drinkers has interestingly one of the highest rate of cancer), is known to reduce vitamin D (the importance of which has been stressed enough in other threads) and thereby of calcium (The US, consuming the most milk in the world are plagued, interestingly, with osteopororsis - the very disease milk is supposed to prevent - In Japan, where the consumption of milk is very limited if not inexistant, osteoporosis is almost unheard of). Another study has shown that the DNA of white blood cells of babies fed with cow milk are twice as damaged as those who aren't. Milk proteins also prevent important antioxydants in fruits and vegetables to be assimilated.

Personally, I tolerate some cheese to some extent, but I'm blood type B, so that's normal. I'm probably one of the mutants.
 
Namaste said:
May i say that maybe raw milk seems to be like a "sacred cow" for you.

Have-you thought about that?

As far as i am concern, any kind of milk products by a animal is for the offspring of this kind of animal.

:D I was going to say exactly the same thing - looks like JEEP has quite the sacred cow here - time to put it out to pasture!
 
Jeep, maybe this video would increase your knowledge a bit - especially the part regarding milk (in fact I doubt you will touch milk after this ;))

_http://www.consciousmedianetwork.com/members/egroup.htm

(I'm aware that Conscious Media Network hosts some individuals that spread disinfo, but in this case throwing the baby out with the bathwater might not be a good thing. I have benefitted greatly from their health related topics)

This video is 37 minutes long and rather bandwidth hungry, but the milk bit comes up fairly early on.
 
Namaste said:
May i say that maybe raw milk seems to be like a "sacred cow" for you.

Have-you thought about that?

"Sacred cow' - cute! No, honestly, I don't think it is a sacred cow to me because, as I said, I had also become convinced that cow's milk wasn't really meant for humans - only baby cows! And, raw milk? That's was right up there with those people claiming vaccines were harmful! I have to tell you, it puzzled and confused me. How on earth did all those people in decades/centuries past drink milk without detrimental effects? And, ironically enough, the Diet and Health threads on this site are what have pushed me to find out more about many of the foods we consume or are choosing not to consume. The raw-milk-facts.com website is heavily footnoted and referenced - you know, that stuff called documentation, scientific papers/studies, data - that stuff we here insist on having to verify any claims as truth! So that, my friend, is what I am basing my belief on. Also, once more for the record, I totally agree that pasteurized/homogenized milk from grain fed cows should not be consumed by anybody! The devil is in the details - in this case, the cows eating GRASS and the milk not pasteurized/homogenized. Seemingly, a world of difference!

I see while composing this reply, many have offered contradictory comments. That is well and good. I am not locked in a box on this issue. I, like all of you, want to know the facts. I will take the time to investigate. It is interesting, though, that Mr. Jonsson included this clarification in one of his answers: "Chances are good that you may, even if you're of African or Asian descent, assuming you can find a reliable source near your home." Was he aware of the info quoted below?

Mrs. Tigersoap said:
According to him, 80% of Asian, 80% of Africans and 60 % of Mediterranean people cannot digest it. They just don't have the enzymes to do so. The others tolerate it to a certain extent due to a mutation helping them to digest it. So, raw or not is not the issue here.

E said:
_http://www.consciousmedianetwork.com/members/egroup.htm

(I'm aware that Conscious Media Network hosts some individuals that spread disinfo, but in this case throwing the baby out with the bathwater might not be a good thing. I have benefitted greatly from their health related topics)

Well, yeah, I guess we'll just have to hope they were telling the truth on this one!

Inti said:
Also, is anyone here familiar with "The China Study"? I will write a review of this in the books section shortly. It claims to be the most comprehensive study of diet, an ongoing project that began in 1983, with over 8,000 statistically significant associations between various dietary factors and disease.
The main findings were that people who ate the most animal-based foods got the most chronic disease. "Even relatively small intakes of animal-based foods were associated with adverse effects. People who ate the most plant-based food were the healthiest and tended to avoid chronic disease." (Campbell, 2006).

Laura said:
Quote from: inti

Also, is anyone here familiar with "The China Study"?

Yes, it's a highly flawed piece of work.

OK, as a 'flawed piece of work', would the findings, 'that people who ate the most animal-based foods got the most chronic disease', then be suspect or completely wrong? In other words, perhaps the people who ate the most animal-based foods (including raw milk?) did not get the most chronic diseases.

I don't wish to imply that you are not raising valid points and in fact, Mr. Jonsson welcomes questions and comments. I can certainly direct these questions to him. I don't wish to be self-deceived but I also don't wish to believe that something that may be extremely healthy is not. I will investigate further. And thank you Anart, for the pun made at my expense! :P But it was so clever - how could you resist? ;)
 
[quote author=JEEP]
Well, yeah, I guess we'll just have to hope they were telling the truth on this one!
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Well Jeep, naturally the particular video I provided isn't disinfo...
 
Believe me, I would LOVE to drink milk because I LOVE it! You have inspired me to find a cow and try a cup. I'll let you know what happens.
 
Oh Laura, you crack me up!!! :lol:

Well, yeah, I guess we'll just have to hope they were telling the truth on this one!

So sorry E - that was a bit of a zinger, wasn't it? Indeed, no one likes to put forth their honest and sincere postings and have them replied to in a way that is lacking in proper respect or consideration. I do apologize. :flowers:

Just another thought. I have lived either in Pennsylvania or Ohio since 1985. Both states contain a very large population of Amish. Now, during all those years, the only Amish health deficits I am aware of are those attributed to inter-marriage because of their faith - no illness or death due to cancer, osteoporosis, etc. etc. or whatever all those ills being linked to milk are. I will try to find some statistics regarding the health of the Amish, just to see.

Again, ANY food substance can be rendered unhealthy under the right conditions. It certainly appears that healthy cows in sanitary conditions eating organic grass will not produce milk unfit for human consumption unless it is pasteurized/homogenized or the cows have been subjected to growth hormones, antibiotics, or other questionable interventions.
 
I Live near farm :) And I have cow natural milk every day :).
I must check my blood type If I good remember I have 0Rh-
 
This appeared on Signs today:

Milk Protein Linked to Autism, Schizophrenia, Diabetes and Heart Disease

Knowing about the health benefits of raw milk is not enough. In his book The Devil in the Milk, Dr. Kevin Woodford says we have one more lesson to learn: there is a link between the type of milk we drink and a range of serious illnesses, including heart disease, Type 1 diabetes, autism and schizophrenia. Epidemiological evidence from ten countries has demonstrated a strong association between high intake of milk from A1 positive cows and high incidence of these diseases, and has correlated very closely with World Health Organization data on the level of deaths from mental disorders.

Dr. Woodford, Professor of Farm Management and Agribusiness at Lincoln University in New Zealand, points out that milk consists of three parts: fat or cream, whey, and milk solids. The devil resides in the milk solids, composed of many different proteins along with lactose and other sugars. One of these proteins is beta casein.

All proteins are long chains of amino acids that have many branches coming off of the main chain. Beta casein is a chain with 229 amino acids and proline at number 67, at least in old fashioned cows, the ones that are A2. These include Guernseys, Jerseys, Asian and African cows. About five thousand years ago, a mutation occurred in this proline amino acid, converting it to histidine. Cows that have this mutated beta casein are the A1 cows. These are more recent breeds in the span of history, like Holsteins and Friesians.

The side chain coming off this histidine is a protein fragment known as beta-casomorphin-7 (BCM 7). The negative health effects of this fragment can be devastating because it is a powerful opiate or narcotic as well as an oxidant. Dr. Thomas Cowan has thought all along that something was "not quite right" on the milk issue. Writing for the Bovine, he says that many of his patients, in spite of trying to eat only the proper dairy products still have illnesses and are unable to tolerate milk. He has suspected "the story with milk wasn't quite finished."

In his attempt to finish the milk story, Woodford brings together a pile of evidence from more than 100 scientific papers examining population studies and research with both animals and humans. He explains the science underpinning the A1/A2 hypothesis and shows that BCM 7 is associated with milk intolerance and a range of auto-immune diseases including Type 1 diabetes, the diabetes that usually occurs during childhood or young adulthood. In people with Type 1 diabetes, the body destroys its own insulin-producing cells.

There is an important difference between the human beta casein protein and the beta-casein produced by A1 cows. All human beta-casein is more like the A2 type, meaning that human milk releases much less BCM 7 than is released in A1 milk. When New Zealand researchers tested human milk, they found less than 1% of the BCM 7 than was released from the same amount of A1 milk. This means that the narcotic effect from human milk fed to babies is less than one thousandth of that found in A1 milk.

BCM7 has been shown to cause neurological impairment in animals and people, particularly autistic and schizophrenic changes. It also interferes with the immune response. Animals injected with BCM 7 can be provoked into Type 1 diabetes. BCM 7 is pro-inflammatory to blood vessels, and selectively binds to epithelial cells in mucus membranes such as the nose and throat, where it can stimulate excessive mucus secretion.

When BCM 7 is released into the gut, it should be difficult for it to get through the gut wall and into the bloodstream because it is a fairly large molecule. But in people with leaky gut syndrome, it is able to pass easily through the gut wall and enter the bloodstream. Dr. Woodford states that BCM 7 can be detected in urine. According to him there is strong evidence that people with stomach ulcers or untreated celiac disease also absorb BCM 7 in this manner. Babies are likely to absorb it this way too, because their gut walls are able to pass large molecules easily into the blood stream. That is how they are able to absorb their mother's colostrum.

This susceptibility of babies to the effects BCM 7 makes infant milk formula products from A1 cows a very poor choice. Opioids like BCM 7 slow the rate of passage through the digestive tract which explains to Dr. Woodford why babies fed on cows milk formula products rather than human milk are susceptible to constipation and can suffer anal fissures. He suggests it is possible that this slower passage of A1 milk through the digestive system may increase lactose intolerance.

He views early and prolonged exposure to BCM 7 in infant formulas as a significant factor in the rising rates of autism and Asperger's syndrome along with the rest of the range of disease states that can result, and he is pushing for research on the topic. Until this is done, he suggests that mothers breastfeed their babies for as long as possible and insist on breast milk substitutes made with A2 milk.

The reasons for the mutation that produces BCM 7 is unknown, occurring many thousands of years ago. The A1 beta casein gene spread rapidly in many countries in the western world. Speculation has it that the spread of A1 cows resulted from their calves drinking A1 milk and being exposed to the opiate BCM 7, making them more docile than the older breeds. As a result, basically all American dairy cows have mutated beta-casein and are predominantly A1.

It is not known whether BCM 7 is likely to be a problem in cheese, ice-cream, yogurt, or other milk products. The French did not accept the A1 breeds of cows, and the delicious cheeses of France are made with A2 milk. In the U.S. there is only one A2 dairy so far, located in Firth Nebraska.

Absorption of BCM 7 is much less in people with healthy digestive tracts, suggesting that maintaining digestive health should be a priority in anyone drinking milk in countries with predominately A1 cows. One of the best ways to achieve this is with daily use of probiotics.

What can we do about the fact that we have the wrong cows? BCM 7 is not found in goat's or sheep's milk which are A2, so drinking their milk instead of milk from cows is an option. Changing over a dairy herd of cows from A1 to A2 is simple and cheap, and it can be accomplished in less than ten years. It requires only that farmers inseminate their cows, naturally or artificially, with semen from A2A2 bulls. In New Zealand, farmers have already started converting their herds in anticipation of rising consumer demand for A2 milk. An added bonus for them is some recently published research revealing that on average New Zealand A2 cows produce more milk than A1 cows. Dairy farmers in the U.S. may be well advised to begin the switch to A2 as soon as possible to be able to market A2 milk products as consumer demand rises in the face of these findings.

This rosy scenario assumes no politics get in the way of an easy changeover, which could be a big assumption. Since the issue of the link between A1 milk and Type 1 diabetes and heart disease was initially raised in early 2003, the New Zealand Food Standards Authority has demonstrated clearly that in the battle between the interests of the dairy industry and those of public health, the industry always wins. As usual, scientific evidence can be molded and withheld by those with vested interests, and consumer choices can be manipulated by corporate interests.

Powerful opiate!?

Jeep said:
I think we all need to stop and think for a minute as to how completely brainwashed we may be regarding milk!

I think you're right . . . for the wrong reason! No wonder it's pushed so heavily.

So Laura, if you must self-experiment, make sure it's an A2 cow. Jeep, get yourself to Nebraska :D
 
[quote author=JEEP]
So sorry E - that was a bit of a zinger, wasn't it? Indeed, no one likes to put forth their honest and sincere postings and have them replied to in a way that is lacking in proper respect or consideration. I do apologize. :flowers:
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No worries. :) I bought that guy's book after I've seen the interview, and it's very beneficial info. When I'm a good girl, I try and stay as close to his advice as possible, and the results are tangible.
 
I am looking at the Blood Group Protocols for foods in Dr. Peter J. D’Adamo’s “Eat Right For Your Type—Complete Blood Type Encyclopedia”. D'Adamo believes genetics are a factor in dietary considerations.

Blood Group A should avoid cow’s milk as it provokes abnormal blood reaction; inhibits proper gastric function or blocks assimilation.

Blood Group AB is neutral for skim or 2% cow’s milk and avoid for whole milk as cow’s milk can modify know disease susceptibility.

Blood Group O should avoid cow’s milk whether whole or skim as it provokes an abnormal blood reaction; contains component that can modify known disease susceptibility, and skim milk or 2% cow’s milk acts as a metabolic inhibitor.

Blood Group B is the only blood group for which Dr. D’Adamo says cow’s milk is beneficial as it has an optimal amino acid(lysine/arginine) ratio. This would follow as Blood Group B evolved in high altitude nomadic herders of Central Asia about 9000 years ago. Blood Group B is the most recently evolved human blood type.

I am Blood Group B from Dutch ancestry on both parental sides. Interestingly, D’Adamo states that Jews and Vikings are the ancestral groups with the highest concentrations of Blood Group B in Europe at about 25%. The European average is 8% Blood Group B. The percentage of Blood Group B in Central Asia approaches 30%. Many African cattle herding peoples have Blood Type B.

The Dutch are known to have raised cattle for as long as 5000 years. Cattle raising for meat and milk is common in rainy cool climates where grass can be utilized for human nutrition. My family raised dairy and beef cattle hybrids on my father's side and we drank raw milk with no obvious side effects. However, most of my family stopped drinking milk by adulthood. I use a little half and half with coffee and a little yogurt today, but cow’s milk and cheese does not agree with my digestion. I noticed a reaction to cow’s milk years ago and simply stopped drinking it as a teenager.

I found D’Adamo’s Blood Group food correlations remarkably close to the diet I have evolved by trial and error over time. I have stopped eating most gluten containing foods. I eat oatmeal, buckwheat, or millet for breakfast. I can only eat tomatoes in small fresh salads as tomato juices or tomato based foods cause stomach discomfort, which follows D’Adamo's material. I eat mostly fresh organic vegetables and grass fed beef, and free range chicken, lamb, and pork. This is only a testimonial, but my experience is D’Adamo’s Blood Group food and disease theories are worth considering.
 
I grew up on milk. Drunk it most of my life. Milk breakfast, milk drinks during the day ect.
At some stage, during eighties for some reason I stopped drinking it. Wasn't 'religious' about it - still used small amounts in coffee or tea.
In 89' while on holidays in Poland, riding motorbike across the country I spotted a woman milking cow in the field. Feeling nostalgic I decided to have some childhood taste. I asked woman for a glass of milk and drunk it - something I've done very often when I was young.
Fair enough, it was bliss in the mouth, childhood memories came back, all was fine...
Not for long. Managed to ride few more kilometers, had to stop and run into the forest. I experienced the worst gut revolution/diarrhea ever !
My body was purging as if I ingested some kind of POISON !
That was it for me when it comes to milk.
For the record - I'm 'A' blood type

Laura said:
...You have inspired me to find a cow and try a cup.

Eeer... are you sure about that ? :scared:
 
Kniall said:
This appeared on Signs today:

Milk Protein Linked to Autism, Schizophrenia, Diabetes and Heart Disease

The plot thickens! I think I'll send this link to the Jonsson website and also the farmer of "Everything I want to do is Illegal", and see how they respond. Also, I wonder if all those Amish know they have A1 cows - hmm, like in steak sauce! :P

Ozrich said:
Not for long. Managed to ride few more kilometers, had to stop and run into the forest. I experienced the worst gut revolution/diarrhea ever !

Yes, perhaps if you've been off milk for a long time, a sudden infusion could provoke a purging reaction. Maybe a few sips at most and only if near a bathroom! I would feel really bad if you got sick! From the Jonsson website:

If you've been using pasteurized dairy products, you might want to eat small amounts of yogurt or kefir for a week or so, to give your digestive tract a pro-biotic boost, before switching to raw milk.

And perhaps the same applies if you've been consuming no milk or dairy at all.
 
You have inspired me to find a cow and try a cup. I'll let you know what happens.
in this country its illegal for farmers to sell unpasteurized milk for human consumption
....but if you say you want it for your pets....that's another story :cool:
I grew up drinking milk ,like many here,and I;ve had a blocked nose all through my childhood
I gave it up years ago and breath much better for it...but I remember when I was still drinking it ,I used to wake up in the middle of the night with a thirst for milk...a real craving...opiates indeed
now I have been diagnosed as officially lactose intolerant,but have been given bovine colostrum(freeze dried) to mix in my morning shake(with hazelnut milk..allergic to almonds as well) to fix my leaky gut.
also my allergy blood test came back as allergic to cheese but not milk and the explanation was that its the molds in the cheese that aggravate the candida not the lactose itself
FWIW
 

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