Borax-boron how to detox and heal yourself inexpensively / Arthritis

Well after reading this thread I have given 20 Mule Borax a try for the past week. I've been doing the 1/4 tsp in water throughout the day method described in this video:

Laurentien2 said:
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here is a video for the protocol for those that are more visual. So easy!

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I was particularly interested in the "increased absorption of magnesium" properties of boron. I have had horrible, regular (almost daily at my low point) migraines for the past ten years that have steady improved over time as I have integrated the general health practices on the forum but to this day I still get about one bad migraine per week. What I have noticed about my migraines is that they usually coincide with the days I also experience cramping on the arches of my feet. On those days I would take high doses of magnesium, and rub magnesium oil all over my neck, feet, and ankles to provide relief. When I read this thread, I asked myself, "maybe I'm just not absorbing magnesium properly if I'm going to great lengths and only getting mild results".

It may be to early to tell, but after a week of using Borax I only woke up with mild head pressure this morning and have experienced zero foot cramps so far. So fingers crossed this positive affect continues.

As to detox symptoms, I have broken out in acne on my shoulders and back so I appear to be fighting off something and/or chelating something. I've upped my use of the infrared sauna in response.
 
I would like to ask those who take borax, do you experience any sensation in your mouth (on the tongue, in the throat)?
I use sodium tetraborate decahydrate powder, which says "do not eat", the purity of the product is 95.9%. I read that it is better soluble and planned to use it for fertilizing plants in the garden in the summer. Alas, it is also almost impossible to find medical-grade borax in our country.
I started with 5 ml of concentrated borax solution (this is 3 mg of pure boron) and increased it to 25 ml (15 mg of boron). I had no symptoms of detoxification, but there was a reaction in the form of increased pain in my finger joints and unpleasant sensations in my mouth.

A week ago, I decided to clean my heels by making a solution of 1 tablespoon of borax and 1 cup of hot water. It turned out to be a clear solution, half of which I washed my feet and hands, and half poured into the sink. I put socks on my feet. And after 15 minutes, I felt a burning sensation on my tongue and a strange feeling in my throat, as if I had eaten a persimmon, the astringent feeling is not very strong, but noticeable and uncomfortable.

I thought borax was not absorbed through the skin. Maybe I don't have a high-quality borax? Although it looks like a fairly pure crystalline powder. Now I do not know whether it is worth continuing to use this powder or trying to find borax in the form of tablets (I saw them in the supplement store, but they are very expensive)?
 
hlat said:
I have not experienced those sensations. Sorry.
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I haven't either.. been drinking borax water - 1/4 teaspoon of borax dissolved in 1 litre.. the borax i have also says "do not eat" etc, but is 99.9%. I got some mild detox reactions so far - a few face pimples. Nothing else.. I think it probably is a good idea to wait til you can get purer borax Korzik..
 
hlat said:
I have not experienced those sensations. Sorry.


You could stop for now and try again with 99% or higher borax.
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We agree. We haven't experienced any of the symptoms that you are having and so would wait until you can find the more purer grade borax. There are many times with taking something that the body is using to cleanse that healing type crises will occur, but this doesn't sound quite like what we have experienced. It still looks as if the 20 Mule Team laundry soap comes the closest to pure that we can get. Of course big pharma will do everything that it can to keep a food grade label off products that compete with its monopoly, so you are most likely not going to be able to find it.
 
brandon said:
I haven't either.. been drinking borax water - 1/4 teaspoon of borax dissolved in 1 litre.. the borax i have also says "do not eat" etc, but is 99.9%. I got some mild detox reactions so far - a few face pimples. Nothing else.. I think it probably is a good idea to wait til you can get purer borax Korzik..
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I was a little mistaken. The powder was 99.5% pure. But it could still be fraudulent on the seller's part. Today after a week's break I took 2 teaspoons (10 ml of borax solution) and again I feel an unpleasant burning sensation in my mouth, as if I burned the middle of my tongue.
I have already ordered boron chelate 3mg from LIFE EXTENSION. It will be interesting to feel the difference .🙂
As a last resort, I have a backup: making my own borax at home from baking soda and boric acid, which is sold at the drugstore.😣
 
JandI said:
We are still evaluating our responses to Boron ingestion. I haven't checked with Iris lately, but I am noticing that when I am outside doing heavy physical work, that I have longer periods between having to pause and catch my breath. I also like to believe that my mind is processing information better, however that is a continuing study and subject to much interpretation and introspection.
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So far this is still the case.
 
Miracle said:
Well after reading this thread I have given 20 Mule Borax a try for the past week. I've been doing the 1/4 tsp in water throughout the day method described in this video:



I was particularly interested in the "increased absorption of magnesium" properties of boron. I have had horrible, regular (almost daily at my low point) migraines for the past ten years that have steady improved over time as I have integrated the general health practices on the forum but to this day I still get about one bad migraine per week. What I have noticed about my migraines is that they usually coincide with the days I also experience cramping on the arches of my feet. On those days I would take high doses of magnesium, and rub magnesium oil all over my neck, feet, and ankles to provide relief. When I read this thread, I asked myself, "maybe I'm just not absorbing magnesium properly if I'm going to great lengths and only getting mild results".

It may be to early to tell, but after a week of using Borax I only woke up with mild head pressure this morning and have experienced zero foot cramps so far. So fingers crossed this positive affect continues.

As to detox symptoms, I have broken out in acne on my shoulders and back so I appear to be fighting off something and/or chelating something. I've upped my use of the infrared sauna in response.
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Almost two months later, Borax continues to have a positive effect in my life. I think I have had one single foot cramp since I started. I've used the sauna a whole lot recently, so a lack of foot cramps really surprises me. I've had a few migraines since, but they have been milder and have occurred about every other week rather than weekly. So not a total panacea on the migraine front, but still a huge win in my books. Lastly, I've been waking up feeling a lot brighter than usual.

I have made other minor positive adjustments to my diet, work & exercise routines in the past two months, so I can't say it is all due to borax, but I sure won't stop taking it anytime soon.
 
Hello,
I just had a discussion with 3 mates/colleagues about this topic. One of them suffers from arthrosis to the point that the amplitude of his movements is reducing. We are going to buy some, and searched about here in BE, or France. We found the following french website which sells to professionnals :

Résultats de recherche pour : 'borax' - Mon-Droguiste.com

I haven't yet read the main recommanded article, we translated it to french and one colleague (also my cousin :-)) highlighted the most important parts. Well, while writing this post i just thought about sharing it, so i created a PDF from it and attached it to this post. So, for french ones, see the PDF below. Note that it's based on the original article, not the updated one that Gaby posted later in the thread (this one)

To come back to the resellers above, there are 6 choices on the page. The one (s) to select is whether the "Borate de sodium" (Sodium borate) or the "Acide Borique" (Boric acid), and my cousin said that the first one gives better results. If anyone want to comment about, or confirm, please do it :)))
So, while writing this post, I managed the order and it's done, 3kg in 6x500g.
Note that a common person can't order there without a VAT number, so, if one here (or in France or the rare ones here from BE or LU) struggle to find where to buy borax, just PM me. We calculated that for 1 liter you have 200 teaspoons. With 5g of borax for 1L you can make 100L with 500gr, meaning 100.000 teaspons, quite enough for a long time.

I was also wondering if the borax degrades in water as the vitamin C. I mean, it's not advised, when you have VitC in powder, to put X grams of VitC in a 1L bottle and drink it for the week, it'll lost its effect, even for 1 day it already loose a (good ?) part of its "effect" and it's recommended to drink it just after having stirring it. I wondered if it's the same for borax, but apparently not (again, if someone want to confirm, please go on)

Personnaly, the subject interrested me because my mother is starting to have arthrosis at one of her hand, she has pain and start to have hard to well move some fingers. I hope that taking borax will help her. We'll see.

At least, do not confound BORAX and BORAT
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... ok, that was my joke of the day :lol::whistle:
 

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An update to my previous post.

I well received the borax and asked one of my colleague to write 1 page summarising the dosage (posology) + remind to also take magnesium. We have a first version but will probably correct/update it, once happy of it i'll share it here. It's in french but this will be quick to translate it to english.

But I wondered one thing reading this 1 page posology, and it's taken from the main article : it says to take from 400mg to 600mg of Mg per day, but personnally, i'm taking actually +/- 1200mg per day (of Mg Glycinate or Citrate), from all that i learnt about Mg in the past, 1200mg is not exagerated.

So my question is simply, if we want to have an accurate document for the posology for the Borax + Mg "cure", isn't it better to recommand for more Mg per day than 400 to 600 ?

If i had to answer to the question, i would say
"Try to take from 1g to 2g of Mg per day, and if possible avoid to take the daily dose at the same time but better to take it in 2 (morning and evening) or 3 steps (morning / noon or afternoon / evening). 500mg of Mg 3x per day for instance."

Anyone one here to correct/confirm this, knowing that it's an average, people have to listen to their body and augment or diminish the dosage as per to what their body tells them.
 
The amount of Mg uptake

varies from person to person. The average is set around 350-400 mg Magnesium per day. I noticed that people who are heavily into sports can tolerate up to 1 gram / higher dosage per day. When you body can't take all the magnesium up, you usually get soft stool. So, when that happens, you simply take a little less. And yes, it is often better to divide the intake into 2 or three times a day making uptake easier (without getting soft stool), instead of taking it all at once.

I already read several times (likely here at the forum) that taking Magnesium before sleep is more effective for the uptake.

My husband and I often prepare a 1.2 liter water with approx. 600-900 mg Magnesium citrate, as well some potassium - put it in the fridge, and drink it over the course of the day/night.

Oh and yes, occasionally i put a little Borax in it, too.
 
XPan said:
My husband and I often prepare a 1.2 liter water with approx. 600-900 mg Magnesium citrate, as well some potassium - put it in the fridge, and drink it over the course of the day/night.
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Thanks for your answer. At least I'm fine with the +/- 1200mg of Mg since now 9 months, i take them in one shoot, with a little bit of water that i swalllow less than 5s then drink in 1 single sip. I know i should divide it in 2 or 3 intakes a day, or use your method ... but ... are you sure that doing like this is ok with Mg ? I mean, preparing in advance water + Mg and drink it during the day ?

Because with VitaminC, my uncle (biologist/chemist) told me not to prepare water + vitamin C in advance as it rapidly loose its effect. So, this method of preparing a bottle for one day is not adapted for VitaminC .... (ie : when you have some in 1kg powder bag). For the Borax it does not pose a problem (is it because it's a mineral ? well, i fear to ask dumb questions as i'm clueless in this domain). But for the Mg i wonder if it's not the same recommandation than for VitC. ? Or, to extend the idea, can i prepare one bottlle for 1 week ? For instance, a 1/2L small bottle, with let's say 7gr of Mg, and drink +/- 1/7 of the bottle each days ?

And yes, taste is bad, at least the glycinate, didn't yet taste the Citrate as i want to finish my glycinate bag before. But now that i'm used with and that i drink this in one single sip .. it's ok :)
 
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