Boston Marathon Bombs

Seen this video of the arrest? _http://edition.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_t1#/video/us/2013/04/19/vo-suspect-perp-walk.cnn

He doesn't look anything like the younger brother, nor is he injured, nor was he taken away in an ambulance.

For reference, this is the older brother who we're told has been killed:
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_http://boston.cbslocal.com/2013/04/19/gunfire-in-watertown-minutes-after-police-scale-back-search/

After a nearly two-hour standoff in a Watertown neighborhood, Tsarnaev was taken from the scene by ambulance to a Boston hospital where he was in serious condition.

The standoff began just before 7 p.m., minutes after Massachusetts State Police announced that they had completed their door-to-door search in Watertown without locating Dzhokhar Tsarnaev.

A homeowner on Franklin Street went into his yard after being inside all day. According to police, he noticed a rip in the tarp that covered his boat and saw blood on the boat. Upon looking inside, he saw a man covered in blood.

The homeowner then called 911.

According to CBS News’ John Miller, three Boston police officers responded to the yard and saw the bloody suspect. Before they could call for backup, the suspect popped up from the boat and opened fire.

Officers returned fire. It is unclear if Tsarnaev was injured in that exchange, or if all of his injuries were sustained in a gunfight early Friday morning in another Watertown neighborhood.

WBZ-TV’s Jim Armstrong was in the area of Franklin Street when he heard what he described as 15-20 seconds of rapid gunfire. He was forced to take cover, and was quickly moved back to safety by police.

WBZ NewsRadio reported that authorities used thermal imaging from a helicopter to confirm the suspect’s whereabouts. The street where Tsarnaev was arrested, fell just outside the 20 block perimeter established for a door-to-door search. Police said that home was not part of the original search.

Nothing here matches up and people are cheering in the streets like mindless programmed zombie slaves.... :barf:
 
Puck said:
Seen this video of the arrest? _http://edition.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_t1#/video/us/2013/04/19/vo-suspect-perp-walk.cnn

He doesn't look anything like the younger brother, nor is he injured, nor was he taken away in an ambulance.

For reference, this is the older brother who we're told has been killed:
11_0.jpg


_http://boston.cbslocal.com/2013/04/19/gunfire-in-watertown-minutes-after-police-scale-back-search/

After a nearly two-hour standoff in a Watertown neighborhood, Tsarnaev was taken from the scene by ambulance to a Boston hospital where he was in serious condition.

The standoff began just before 7 p.m., minutes after Massachusetts State Police announced that they had completed their door-to-door search in Watertown without locating Dzhokhar Tsarnaev.

A homeowner on Franklin Street went into his yard after being inside all day. According to police, he noticed a rip in the tarp that covered his boat and saw blood on the boat. Upon looking inside, he saw a man covered in blood.

The homeowner then called 911.

According to CBS News’ John Miller, three Boston police officers responded to the yard and saw the bloody suspect. Before they could call for backup, the suspect popped up from the boat and opened fire.

Officers returned fire. It is unclear if Tsarnaev was injured in that exchange, or if all of his injuries were sustained in a gunfight early Friday morning in another Watertown neighborhood.

WBZ-TV’s Jim Armstrong was in the area of Franklin Street when he heard what he described as 15-20 seconds of rapid gunfire. He was forced to take cover, and was quickly moved back to safety by police.

WBZ NewsRadio reported that authorities used thermal imaging from a helicopter to confirm the suspect’s whereabouts. The street where Tsarnaev was arrested, fell just outside the 20 block perimeter established for a door-to-door search. Police said that home was not part of the original search.

Nothing here matches up and people are cheering in the streets like mindless programmed zombie slaves.... :barf:

I'm wondering if that is just a radom guy being "falsely" arrested, or if this is the supposed "terrorist" wich "was taken from the scene by ambulance to a Boston hospital where he was in serious condition".
 
Re: Report of 2 Explosions At The Boston Marathon Finishline

salinafaerie said:
I'm confused here too, jasminum, because I also thought it was violating someone's free will to force information on them that they don't want and that the real Work is within ourselves regardless of what is going on around us. :huh:

Maybe someone could clarify this for us.

Thank you.

If Laura had thought the way you do, salina, most of us would still be sound asleep. She's a great example of how one person, doing what is in them to do and abiding by the truth in their life can wake up hundreds (if not thousands) of others. If she had let fear stop her (and she had plenty of reason to, many times) where would we be?

I also notice that once again you're asking a question that is basically playing devil's advocate. I mentioned this to you in another thread and you never responded to me. I also asked you to remind me how you found this forum but you didn't respond to that either - could you now?
 
Re: Report of 2 Explosions At The Boston Marathon Finishline

jasminum said:
I do choose otherwise, although it looks like I do not know what it means in practice. As to waking people up my idea was that I need to Work on myself in order to wake up myself first, at least to extent to be able to pass the knowledge to those who ask.

Of course - my main point here is that a person should strive to be response-able - to be capable of reacting to circumstances in a way that does not compromise the truth or their soul, and to be willing to do so because there IS a truth here. That's really the whole point, that we should strive to not be frightened, mindless sheep so easily herded.

j said:
Also my idea was that it is a main purpose of our waking up - that if critical mass of awakened people would be achieved, things are going to change in material 3D plane, though I do not know in what way it will manifest, perhaps acting in such circumstances.

Perhaps, I don't know for certain either. All I do know is that if we don't base our thoughts and actions on truth and what is the right thing to do (to the extent we can do it and that is variable) in any specific circumstance, we're already lost.

j said:
But what it means in terms of acting in this particular situation I still do not understand and I think that your post does not really answer it. It sounds to me (maybe I am wrong) like you are being impatient with me, like since I am here I should already know.

Not at all, what I'm doing is simply pointing out that you are regurgitating all of the programming that has been installed over the past dozen years as if it is the truth. It only becomes the truth if you follow it - and you don't have to. You're the one who brought up Nazi Germany and how a handful of soldiers controlled masses of people through fear - that's exactly how it works when people buy into the programming that has been installed over the last dozen years.

j said:
I just imagine myself being there and I wonder what I could do? Practically. Realistically. I do not think I am buying into what they want us to believe, but aren’t we often powerless in many practical situations in life and we have to go with them?

If you think you are powerless, you are buying into what they want you to believe. The battle is through us, jasminum and it is a battle of the mind/heart/soul.
 
Just to add was just reflecting on an earlier quote:

Refusing to let them in given this is a state of emergency could lead to the resident being charged with obstructing justice. It would also make the authorities think you were hiding the suspect. No resident wants that so its best to let them in.

If we break it down what we really have is a group of hired armed thugs (swat team) coming into our property uninvited (trespassing) and threatening us with harm (strip search etc). And when we resist, we'll be taken away and locked up (kidnapped and confined against our will). We can only get "free" with bail (ransom) and we'd be trialled and charged for "obstructing justice".

Of all things "justice" and for that matter "personal safety" that we're duped into believing we have while complying with such things, is long gone anyway. Real justice and safety don't come about by consenting to abuse, which is what all the programming is about getting us to do. The fact that there's so much elaborate effort gone into program us in itself indicates we have the innate power already to change this, otherwise why bother with all the charades if you know what mean?
 
I agree (I'm a Bostonian) that there's a lot that doesn't add up here & a lot that is suspicious.
 
Alada said:
Laura said:
The more I think about it, the more I think that this business is designed to distract attention away from the growing upset among the masses about the confiscation of money from banks and the worsening economic situation between the 1% and everybody else.

Good point. There’s a theme that stands out this morning from skimming the news headlines. It’s no longer ‘Muslims from over there’, it’s ‘Muslims from over here’ - U.S. Muslims. They’ve already ramped up the emotions of the masses on this, it would just require one more ‘U.S. Muslims did it’ event for them to lock everything down and for the authoritarian masses to happily comply with turning on Muslims, attacking their businesses, homes, families, jobs, places of worship, etc. Sound familiar?

Indeed. Fox News is often a useful barometer for the intended 'message for the masses'. This video on the suspects background contains a sprinkling of the terms: 'Islam' 'Muslim' and 'Jihadist' in a very tenuous manner. For instance saying one has a social media website with 'apparent' links to jihadist videos's. _http://video.foxnews.com/v/2313164813001

I sometimes think that it is all about the money. As ever there are a multitude of benefactors from events such as these as we have seen from previous events. I wouldn't be surprised if it was the private military contractors actually driving events like this. They welcome any increase in security spending and queue up for lucrative security contracts for screening tech, surveillance, checkpoints and Iraq-style 'safe' compounds, gated communities and infrastructure.
 
Re: Report of 2 Explosions At The Boston Marathon Finishline

Arwenn said:
Saieden said:
Indeed, here's another:

[quote author=Aunt]
I can not take this kind of information lightly. What century are we living? We need evidence! Otherwise you can go and shoot, you know, anybody like a chicken on the street and say that, you know, he did this or he did that. Not for me. I need evidence.


_http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=107UtLco0Qk

Like someone posted earlier, since when was it OK to shoot 'suspects'? Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty? This is all playing out like a TV soap, and the masses seem to be buying into it. Something is just so off. Other than CCTV footage of those boys walking past, what actual evidence do they have that they detonated the bombs? The MSM seem to be focussing more on the drama around the manhunt, playing up the fear, and making heroes out of the SWAT teams. No source has actually said how or why they dunnit. Screams of alphabet agency patsy. OSIT
[/quote]

That's what I was suggesting earlier -- the public seems to be responding like this was just another fictional TV crime drama. It's creepy. At the same time, I can't discuss it with anybody outside the forum. They have spirals in their eyes.
 
Laura said:
...In other words, a step on the way to the long dreamed of, totally controlled, cashless society.

I am getting the sense that a line has been crossed somewhere, and that at least one of the major steps is now an accomplished fact. What I am seeing -- the lack of loud outcry over outrageous moves -- makes my skin crawl.
 
[quote author=megan]That's what I was suggesting earlier -- the public seems to be responding like this was just another fictional TV crime drama. It's creepy. At the same time, I can't discuss it with anybody outside the forum. They have spirals in their eyes.[/quote]

Most people can't tell the difference between fiction and reality anymore, so that's not too surprising. :rolleyes:
Good thing "everyone is in their own boat" as the C's say, huh?
 
Re: Report of 2 Explosions At The Boston Marathon Finishline

Megan said:
Arwenn said:
Saieden said:
Indeed, here's another:

[quote author=Aunt]
I can not take this kind of information lightly. What century are we living? We need evidence! Otherwise you can go and shoot, you know, anybody like a chicken on the street and say that, you know, he did this or he did that. Not for me. I need evidence.


_http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=107UtLco0Qk

Like someone posted earlier, since when was it OK to shoot 'suspects'? Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty? This is all playing out like a TV soap, and the masses seem to be buying into it. Something is just so off. Other than CCTV footage of those boys walking past, what actual evidence do they have that they detonated the bombs? The MSM seem to be focussing more on the drama around the manhunt, playing up the fear, and making heroes out of the SWAT teams. No source has actually said how or why they dunnit. Screams of alphabet agency patsy. OSIT

That's what I was suggesting earlier -- the public seems to be responding like this was just another fictional TV crime drama. It's creepy. At the same time, I can't discuss it with anybody outside the forum. They have spirals in their eyes.
[/quote]

Spirals in the eyes lol, you got that right. I have only talked about this to to very close people and they are...hmm.........well....spirals.....
I feel very alone today. This step was huge and all I see are the spirals :scared:
 
loreta said:
Me too... I have good friends in Facebook, people who love Prairie dogs and that I know since many, many years. Good people, good citizens, believers in God, in Justice, in Peace. But blind. So I thought to unfriend them than I changed my idea. I accept people as they are, in their ideas of the world. What can I do? Some years ago I believed in justice and in the good work of the police. When the attacks in Madrid I believed the official version, was afraid like an ant. I changed. I will change more and more. My friends can change. But basically I accept as they are. I don't know if this my attitude is the good one. But for now I will accept this. And to have friends that don't think like you it is also a very interesting thing to study.

I've unfriended a few mainly because of what they said and support and I can only imagine what they might think or do seeing me post SOTT articles regularly. These are people I don't think I can trust to have a rational thought. They can be how they will be, but I don't want to be a part of their world however small that is with just FB posts.
 
I watched CNN while fixing and having dinner last evening. At that time they were saying that the young man had apparently got away despite house to house searches and hundreds of police officers.

I was about to turn it off when they reported hearing gun shots and the police were moving again. This was just in time for prime time viewers, a coincidence of course. :rolleyes:

I stayed with it until they announced that they had arrested him. My impression was that this was all a big show. Meant as entertainment and manipulation, not to inform. And hundreds of police officers cornering an injured kid in a boat. How brave the officers were to face such danger to protect the public.

There have been several incidents in the last few years where the FBI has manipulated small groups to form a "terrorist" plot when the groups had no possibility or will to carry it out. Then they arrested them, the FBI protecting the public. This situation could have been such a manipulation. It has the smell of it.

Then this morning there was many shots of the cheering crowds. They have been saved from this 19 year old kid. Makes you want to gag.

And now they say that he will no Miranda rights, no attorney and will be deemed an "enemy combatant".

Pretty sick, all of it. And the US public is eating it up.

Mac
 
Laura said:
In other words, a step on the way to the long dreamed of, totally controlled, cashless society.

Was thinking this, too, and have been keeping an eye on the background global financial sectors, and there is this chronology of events playing up to now and in the background which people are noticing, yet along comes hyper trauma physical and psychological events such as Boston that are deadly to people in their everyday lives, and at the same time they distract attention as they occupy the MSN completely, burning in the control messages which require acquiescence to the state for their perceived safety. In the background, behind the scenes the G20 are meeting and scheduling further talks in Russia in July. At the same time Britain will have a new imported Goldman Sachs initiated czar running the show. Gold/silver/stocks/currencies are acting out under continuous manipulation and theft. Offshore account information is leaked in the news as a focus, yet at the top the barons are stripping the cupboards bare. "Controlled, cashless society" seems to be one of the plateaus being sought, and if thought about, not sure if many people see the implications, as society presently runs on above and below the the table cash, money is spread around in the forms of tips, at farmers markets - on and on... Their financial goal of absolute control, which must be their goal, will change the way people live and interact with each other, it will be under their thumb completely until people get inventive and find other ways. Notice news such as the IRS focusing attention on the self employed, squeezing them once again, it is the same elsewhere, the focus is on everyday people, not those above and never the corporations. As for those people with cash offshore, it is the way it has always been, and the PTB are all doing it, so it seems this is just a distraction that will go nowhere other than to perhaps make a few examples of people who are not in their favor so that it is perceived as something they are addressing.

There sure seems to be a lot of background engineering going on, awaiting perhaps for someone to pull their finger out of the hole in the dame and then offer up, after mass hysteria and hardship has stewed and then rush back in and fill the vacuum with complete control mechanisms that will be welcomed and cheered.

Anyway, maybe it is not these things, however, my confidence in this not being so is very low.

Mac said:
Pretty sick, all of it. And the US public is eating it up.

Mac

Indeed, and it is infecting elsewhere at a rapid pace, osis.
 
voyageur said:
Laura said:
In other words, a step on the way to the long dreamed of, totally controlled, cashless society.

Was thinking this, too, and have been keeping an eye on the background global financial sectors, and there is this chronology of events playing up to now and in the background which people are noticing, yet along comes hyper trauma physical and psychological events such as Boston that are deadly to people in their everyday lives, and at the same time they distract attention as they occupy the MSN completely, burning in the control messages which require acquiescence to the state for their perceived safety. In the background, behind the scenes the G20 are meeting and scheduling further talks in Russia in July. At the same time Britain will have a new imported Goldman Sachs initiated czar running the show. Gold/silver/stocks/currencies are acting out under continuous manipulation and theft. Offshore account information is leaked in the news as a focus, yet at the top the barons are stripping the cupboards bare. "Controlled, cashless society" seems to be one of the plateaus being sought, and if thought about, not sure if many people see the implications, as society presently runs on above and below the the table cash, money is spread around in the forms of tips, at farmers markets - on and on... Their financial goal of absolute control, which must be their goal, will change the way people live and interact with each other, it will be under their thumb completely until people get inventive and find other ways. Notice news such as the IRS focusing attention on the self employed, squeezing them once again, it is the same elsewhere, the focus is on everyday people, not those above and never the corporations. As for those people with cash offshore, it is the way it has always been, and the PTB are all doing it, so it seems this is just a distraction that will go nowhere other than to perhaps make a few examples of people who are not in their favor so that it is perceived as something they are addressing.

There sure seems to be a lot of background engineering going on, awaiting perhaps for someone to pull their finger out of the hole in the dame and then offer up, after mass hysteria and hardship has stewed and then rush back in and fill the vacuum with complete control mechanisms that will be welcomed and cheered.

Anyway, maybe it is not these things, however, my confidence in this not being so is very low.

Mac said:
Pretty sick, all of it. And the US public is eating it up.

Mac

Indeed, and it is infecting elsewhere at a rapid pace, osis.

Yeah, things are not looking so good these days, but then I think of what the C's said in the session from December 29, 2009:

"A: Don't lose hope for your groups. They will do well if they will follow the STO way set out for them.

Q: (L) Well, first we have some revelations, and you start feeling a little hope about the Climategate thing. Then, you have this obviously transparent "false flag" terrorism attack on an airplane which then results in crackdowns that make everybody miserable. It's so ridiculous as to be beyond comprehension.

A: We once said that 4D STS will become desperate for control as the changes approach. They perceive that control is being undermined thus making them more desperate.

Q: (L) What's undermining their control?

A: Why you, yes! Collectively, that is.

Q: (Allen) So we do it by things that we're publishing, or just by being who we're being and working on things for ourselves?

A: All and more coming down the creativity pipeline.

Q: (L) Could it be said that what we're doing is actually inducing these controlling actions?

A: Yes but that is actually good because it means that their desperation is being driven and they will make more mistakes and turn the masses against them sooner.

Q: (L) So the more positive things we do, and the more creative we become, the more it drives them to try to suppress and repress things in indirect ways to try to suppress and repress us without suppressing and repressing us directly - because that would be too obvious - and by so doing, they show their hand so to speak?

A: Yes"
 

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