Can we talk about Andrew Tate

[Laura]

Everything You Need to Know About Sex-Trafficking Charges Against Andrew Tate

Reading Time: 8 minutes THE BACKSTORY Timeline Early 2010s: Andrew Tate started his webcamming business in the U.K. in the early 2010s. He was broke at the time and saw an opportunity to make money by setting up a webcam studio (he made his first big money and become a multi millionaire with...

www.cf.org

 

[Joe]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1680659980557361152

 

[Corvus]

There is one video where he said he wanted to be controlled opposittion but they did not want to..., he is just an opportunist promoting himself by talking much truth how world works to gain fame, influence and thinks end justifies the means when it comes to money, power, etc..wich shows you how many lies are there for egomaniacal, narcissist guy like that to gain reputation, and when you look those women around him most are gold diggers. There is also older videos where he says nothing bad against pornography but in recent ones says against it because they are looking what is popular in alternative media and then promoting it.

 

[Corvus]

And that story that you exit Matrix through financial freedom becoming rich and that he is Morpheus. Guy talks about working hard all jobs and most people being lazy and stupid, and that you will become rich by working more and smart and he gains money through webcam and then invests in casinos in Romania. If it was so easy many people would be rich by now. Should have started with zero in Romania and see how it goes. It shows some parallels with nazi Germany where when people are so desperate for some common sense and truth will follow people like that and it gives rase to many pathologicals.

 

[Z...]

some good points here

Andrew "Cobra" Tate: Another Snake in the Matrix - Miri AF

Unless you happen to be resident on a particularly remote colony of Mars (and frankly, even they probably have WiFi […]

miriaf.co.uk

 

[Jones]

Plus, nobody gets that big unless they're doing the work of the matrix in at least some manner. There's a program for everyone.

I have often pondered this idea that no one can make it big like REALLY BIG without aligning to The Control Matrix either consciously or subconsciously.

Next we could think of Jordan Peterson who actually made a name for himself due to the control matrix trying to throttle him early on, which backfired gloriously.

Well, there is also the scenario where an anti-matrix person gets big and then is taken down as an example to other would be heros.

It's so weird and unfortunate, that it even made me think that it could be symbolic in some way. Tucker opened the door and allowed himself to be used and manipulated in this way. Not a good sign. It's like they "got him", or this is how they are going to get him.

The Mind Matters crew recently did a couple of video's about The Forest Passage by Ernst Jünger ( Freedom in Tyranny: Ernst Jünger's The Forest Passage and The Road Best Traveled: Ernst Jünger's Forest Passage).

One of the points discussed is that the control system needs around 2% of the population to be left to fight back so that they can be either bought down as an example or made out to be dangerous to the general population in some way so that the average citizen can be more easily convinced that the population needs the protection of the control system. So there's a lot to unpack in that idea when talking about Peterson, Trump and Carlson. In the case of Peterson and Trump, we can probably assert that their own ignorance of certain dynamics contributed to certain downfalls.

I think it would be fair to give Carlson a bit of time to see what he does, if anything, next about the Tate matter and where he goes with other interviews. I dunno, it seems kind of suspicious that he gives Tate, accused of trafficking and sex crimes, a favourable audience against the backdrop of the big story of the release of the Sound of Freedom movie. The timing just seems off.

 

[Keit]

I think it would be fair to give Carlson a bit of time to see what he does, if anything, next about the Tate matter and where he goes with other interviews. I dunno, it seems kind of suspicious that he gives Tate, accused of trafficking and sex crimes, a favourable audience against the backdrop of the big story of the release of the Sound of Freedom movie. The timing just seems off.

Meanwhile this interview and "association" with Tate is being used to further "radicalize" those who are sympathetic toward him or his message (in whatever form).

Here's an article:

Tucker Carlson Becomes Latest Champion Of Accused Human Trafficker Andrew Tate—Here’s Why Some Conservatives Love Him

Tate, a self-described misogynist, was charged in Romania with human trafficking and organized crime after a year-long investigation.

www.forbes.com

It mentions Trump, who thought that Tate's lengthy detention was insanity, Musk who found the interview interesting, and Rogan who in his usual fashion called Tate a smart guy, but at least also acknowledged him being a player, who presents a certain image in order to make money.

But they also mention Alex Jones and "far-right commentator and conspiracy theorist" Paul Joseph Watson, and how they absolutely support Tate.

And there is also this quote:

Carlson’s interview with Tate was criticized, including by some conservatives, who blamed the host for giving an audience to an accused human trafficker. Conservative radio host Erick Erickson listed Tate’s charges in a tweet, stating: “Are you an Andrew Tate right winger or a Sound of Freedom right winger. You can’t really be both,” referencing the controversial film that became a hit among conservative audiences for its anti-sex-trafficking message. The Spectator editor-at-large Ben Domenech also invoked the film, tweeting: “Not going to waste 2.5 hours of my life on these two, can someone tell me if Tucker asked Tate his opinion of Sound of Freedom.”

Considering his track record, it would be indeed fair to give Carlson time and see what he will do. But meanwhile we can see how Tate is getting greater support and further stamp of validation specifically because of his interview with Carlson. So while it will be great if at some point Carlson will "get it", the waters are already muddied and the damage is already done.

And in comparison to this, the bewilderment at Peterson when he interviewed neocon Frederick Kagan after the beginning of the SMO in Ukraine, or his interview with Netaniahu looks like small potatoes. Or so it seems to me. Very strange the whole thing.

 

[Bo]

If only the younger male generation of this time could see(espec. those favouring tate himself) that a real high value man would be someone like Samwise Gamgee in Lord Of The Rings. There are many more, like Aragorn or Faramir, but I think Samwise would be the best role model.

He isn't considered strong, very smart or cunning(traits which you have to have according to the tate community). He seeks no treasure and desires no glory, but he is brave, kind, loyal and sincere.

But alas people like tate would probally call Samwise a ''simp'' or a ''weak male'' , yet failing to realize if you take away their fame and money what is left is nothing more then a charade , while if you take away everything away from samwise he would still be samwise, nothing would change.

Andrew Tate is a virus like the plague, but much worse, why? Because the plague atleast kills you, this one tears away your being and understanding of life in general, slowly step by step until they all become a ''tate'' just another copy of him, he has been Agent Smith all along believing he was Neo.

Maybe as our current society keeps collapsing bit by bit, more men like Samwise will rise up to help their fellow men and more women like Éowyn will rise up to fight alongside them.

 

[Natus Videre]

Cassady Campbell imitates Andrew Tate

In the video (assuming it's not fake), it's scary how some young women were amused by his predatory ultra-arrogance—they didn't repel him immediately. Pushing the "right" buttons is what predators know best. Vigilance is key. Better safe than sorry.

A: When you are under attack, expect the unexpected, if it is going to cause problems...
Q: So, if there is something that can cause problems, expect it to happen.
A: But, if you expect it, you learn how to "head it off," thus neutralizing it. This is called vigilance, which is rooted in knowledge. And, what does knowledge do?
Q: Protects! Is there anything I can do to help?

 

[Cosmos]

Meanwhile this interview and "association" with Tate is being used to further "radicalize" those who are sympathetic toward him or his message (in whatever form).

Here's an article:

Tucker Carlson Becomes Latest Champion Of Accused Human Trafficker Andrew Tate—Here’s Why Some Conservatives Love Him

Tate, a self-described misogynist, was charged in Romania with human trafficking and organized crime after a year-long investigation.

www.forbes.com

It mentions Trump, who thought that Tate's lengthy detention was insanity, Musk who found the interview interesting, and Rogan who in his usual fashion called Tate a smart guy, but at least also acknowledged him being a player, who presents a certain image in order to make money.

But they also mention Alex Jones and "far-right commentator and conspiracy theorist" Paul Joseph Watson, and how they absolutely support Tate.

And there is also this quote:



Considering his track record, it would be indeed fair to give Carlson time and see what he will do. But meanwhile we can see how Tate is getting greater support and further stamp of validation specifically because of his interview with Carlson. So while it will be great if at some point Carlson will "get it", the waters are already muddied and the damage is already done.

And in comparison to this, the bewilderment at Peterson when he interviewed neocon Frederick Kagan after the beginning of the SMO in Ukraine, or his interview with Netaniahu looks like small potatoes. Or so it seems to me. Very strange the whole thing.

I think, in general, the reason that an obviously openly shady, nasty and by all accounts predatory person like Tate is excused and praised, even by people who should know better, is a symptom of a pathologically infused global society. There were times that, even if almost nobody was aware of pathology and/or psychopathy in the sense Łobaczewski talked about, where it would have been considered a no-go by society to put such an openly rotten character on any kind of podestal or excusing his behavior. I think Joe basically nailed the problem when he said:

I'm really not interested in him, except perhaps as a social phenomenon during the last throes of a mostly rotten and ponerized society, where the scum rises to the top, and the extent to which people like him are being inserted/inserting themselves into the 'trad Con' movement, as a means to destroy any usefulness it might have had.

We've come to realize that, through the ponerization process, an entire society can become, to one extent or another "psychopath-like". So we don't really label people "psychopath" so much anymore, primarily because we realize that a) it's nuanced and b) it's not really that unusual anymore, and c) there are many, many 'varieties' and levels of disturbed and deviant behavior to the point that half the population could be on the psychopath and character-disturbed spectrum. So we don't so much label people as psychopaths anymore, but rather notice the myriad and complex ways in which people exhibit deviant thinking and behavior.

 

[Cosmos]

Joe Biden is also a good example of that. In his case he is accepted and excused for behaviors that quite clearly point to predatory and/or sexual actions towards people, and more specifically, towards children. And it is also striking that not only „the left“ seems to have brushed over those pretty openly weird and predatory displays of his, but also large parts of „the right“. He is just a deranged old and senile guy, right? Well…

 

[mkrnhr]

There were times that, even if almost nobody was aware of pathology and/or psychopathy in the sense Łobaczewski talked about, where it would have been considered a no-go by society to put such an openly rotten character on any kind of podestal or excusing his behavior.

People who used to be repulsive in society are now "okay?". It is strange indeed. Maybe the extant to which perversity has saturated the public space, such behaviours are kind of normalized or something.

 

[Menna]

Everything You Need to Know About Sex-Trafficking Charges Against Andrew Tate

Reading Time: 8 minutes THE BACKSTORY Timeline Early 2010s: Andrew Tate started his webcamming business in the U.K. in the early 2010s. He was broke at the time and saw an opportunity to make money by setting up a webcam studio (he made his first big money and become a multi millionaire with...

www.cf.org

Thank you. That video is all that anyone needs to SEE (if they are capable of not buffering) to be objective about the man

It is important to view what is happening from a MACRO point of view when looking at society as a whole and how the powers at be work in TWO ways. This seems to be the sneaky process in Tates case to subvert those who do not follow the crowd and to herd those who do not go along with the masses. Those that do not jump on the vaccine bandwagon, the Ukraine bandwagon and require a little bit more tact. S these people go to the opposite message that is being cast out but its being cast and manipulated and controlled by the same people to "hinder" ta type of logical to trap...I myself have fallen for this trap. This is why I quoted this post because it allows me to see clear evidence and to become wiser....My recipe to protect myself from the logic trap is to give things time and SEE/check in with the thing I am viewing from time to time to learn.

1) Tate rise to fame on social media was influenced by the powers at be to garner views, to be allowed on platforms and so forth. Obviously the video in Laura's post could have been used in the Tucker interview or on any other podcast with 8 figure views to hinder the fame and momentum of Tate. But "They" made a choice NOT to show not to contradict. Pierce Morgan did an interview that was somewhat confrontational but it was lazy. Morgan accused Tate of supporting everything Alex Jones has done because he has done Jones podcast. A lazy attempt to try and seem adversarial which allowed Tate to use logic to explain away the confrontation....

2) They attack him as too male and too this or too that to cast a wider net to get people to believe that this might be the truth or if Tate is a "man" and doesn't follow the crowed then this is a path or something to learn about and follow. I don't follow the crowd or masses so in turn I follow Tate.

3) After fame and notoriety and a controlled opposition is established. It is time to make this person mainstream such as an easy, nice, non questioning interview with edification such as Tucker and Twitter and if its on Twitter then also "approval" in some form or fashion by Elon. (A side note - I always wondered why Tucker was on FOx News from 9am -7pm that channel was one way and then for an hour or so 5x a week Tucker comes on and has a different view - I thought to myself its all fake too much of a dichotomy to allow one hour or so of a complete opposite view if the channel feels so strong about the other side...)

You may say that Tate and Tucker and Twitter are right wing and "They" from a Macro point of view have now "built" a right wing figure for the populous on that "side" to follow. However, republican's and democrat right and left are two sides of the same coin as John Grace/Val Valerian in his interview with Laura lee explained

Its all one control structure as many here know. The Tate control the Tate net takes more "tact" to cast to capture those against the herd or the trend or the crowd those that use a level of logic and a level of discernment but its not deep enough.... as these people have some level of skepticism but at the end of the day people have a need for belonging, a need for a level of intimacy a need to be close to something. Its logic to say I avoided this trap that means that something that opposes the trap is safe....Sneaky sneaky "They" use logic to bring you to the mouse trap.

Its devastating and shocking to believe how hard it is to find B influences as there is so much manipulation not only are A influences out in the open but then there are TACT A influences purposely set for one to walk into...wicked...Not to meniton less than 1% of the population even knoe the concept of A, B and C influences so I can't fault anyone for using a level of logic and discernment but that levle isnt deep enough...

 

[Alejo]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1680659980557361152

That nails it !

If only the younger male generation of this time could see(espec. those favouring tate himself) that a real high value man would be someone like Samwise Gamgee in Lord Of The Rings. There are many more, like Aragorn or Faramir, but I think Samwise would be the best role model.

Or all of them, they all represent different aspects of healthy masculinity to use as a model, Samwise is loyal and faithful, Aragorn is someone who leads and inspires by strength, he even lets down Eowyn when it becomes clear to him that he could not give her what she sought, in a crushing scene.. but a necessary one, that wasn't intended to hurt. Faramir, he sacrifices the ultimate power because of what he understood it meant for everyone. Tate's message was essentially, "go get the ring! or at least pretend like you have it"

Heck, even Dragon Ball has good role models, the group of sayians who learned to control their beastly natures to live above them and protect those whom they love. But the thing is, sex sells.. none of the paths mentioned above offer glamour and self aggrandizement, on the other hand, they represent a path of sacrifice and discipline, which can be seen as "boring".

People who used to be repulsive in society are now "okay?". It is strange indeed. Maybe the extant to which perversity has saturated the public space, such behaviours are kind of normalized or something.

It's like Sodom and Gomorrah. Which is sad when you think about it, individually, when someone seeks such debauchery, they're in such a mental state of instability and chaos that their only way to soothe some of that pain is with desperate attempt at building and maintaining any sense of self worth with cheap means. It says a lot about the state of society in the west.

 

[Turgon]

This video from the link Laura posted says it all. I mean, all the hallmarks are there. He see's and treats women as commodities and objects to be used and abused, he exploits them, is violent if they don't do what he says and an top of that, rather than being ashamed or conflicted about it, he can't help but brag about it to anyone willing to listen. He's the true definition of what toxic masculinity is. He's a snake in a flashy suit and shades.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1680496714179051520