Can we talk about Princess Diana?

[Keit]

I think that in her death Diana gave others the gift of being an inspiration. Just like in case of JFK and RFK, during their lives their deeds left an undeniable mark, but after their deaths the loss has become much more vivid, especially if you keep the "Terror of History" concept in mind.

When man contemplates history, AS IT IS, he is forced to realize that he is in the iron grip of an existence that seems to have no real care or concern for his pain and suffering. Over and over again, the same sufferings fall upon mankind multiplied millions upon millions of times over millennia. The totality of human suffering is a dreadful thing. I could write until the end of the world using oceans of ink and forests of paper, and never fully convey this terrible condition in which mankind finds his existence.

The beast of arbitrary calamity has always been with us. For as long as human hearts have pumped hot blood through their too-fragile bodies and glowed with the inexpressible sweetness of life and yearning for all that is good and right and loving, the sneering, stalking, drooling and scheming beast of "real life" has licked its lips in anticipation of its next feast of terror and suffering. Since the beginning of time, this mystery of the estate of man, this Curse of Cain has existed. And, since the Ancient of Days, the cry has been: "My punishment is greater than I can bear!"

Diana wasn't a saint, but she and her actions projected kindness and other qualities that stood in direct contrast to the "drooling and scheming beast of "real life"". For those who desperately needed a sign, she was like an answer that there was a possibility for something different, something kinder and gentler. Something hopeful.

Not long ago I posted on FB several of her quotes that made an impact on me. Here they are again.

1. There are two basic agents when defining us as human beings - one, a sharpness of mind. Two is kindness of the heart - hearing and sharing the grief of others.
(Receiving Humanitarian of the Tear Award, 1995)

2. I pay great attention to people and I always remember them. Every visit, every meeting is special. Nothing brings me more happiness than trying to help the most vulnerable people in society. It is a goal and essential part of my life, a kind of destiny. Whoever is in distress can call on me. I will come running, wherever they are.
(Last interview given in June 1997 to Le Monde and published by the Paris-based paper a few days before she died there)

3. I feel close to people whoever they might be. We are all the same to begin with, on the same wavelength. That is why I disturb certain people.
Because I am closer to people down there than to people higher up they won't forgive me for that. Because I really have close relations with the most humble people.
(Interview with Le Monde, published shortly before she died)

4. I want the boys to experience what most people already know - that they are growing up in a multi¬racial society in which not everyone is rich, has four holidays a year, speaks standard English and has a Range Rover.
(Diana's hopes for her sons, expressed to friends, 1994)

5. It's prayer, Tony, prayer. It is most important.
(Private words to the Revd Tony Lloyd, Executive Director of the Leprosy Mission, who had commented, "I don't know how you stay sane." 1993)

6. Touch my face. I don't mind at all.
(To a blind man, aged twenty-two. He had asked if he could touch her to find out if she was as beautiful as people said. Diana knelt in front of him and placed his hand on her face, in 1995. Blind people often sensed Diana's magnetic personality, although deprived of her beauty and glamour which entranced so many sighted people)

7. I hope you will always be able to let others share in your own strength.
(From a letter to a cerebral palsy victim, a woman of twenty-seven who had met Diana through the Chicken Shed, a theatre company which welcomes young people of all abilities. Diana also wrote a foreword to her book, Paula's Story, 1993)

8. I was enormously impressed by the genuineness of your approach to the survivors and their families to sustain their morale and to help them maintain their self-esteem. Their tragic stories are a desperately sad reflection of man's inhumanity to man. The victims I have met and their senselessly inflicted injuries have stiffened my resolve to ensure that their needs for care and support are not overlooked in the search for an agreement to outlaw landmines.
(Part of one of Diana's last letters, written 12 August 1997, to Jerry White, co-founder of the Landmines Survivors Network)

9. Life is mostly froth and bubble
Two things stand like stone
Kindness in another's trouble
Courage in your own.
(Words of the Australian poet, Adam Lindsay Gordon, quoted by Diana at a fund-raising dinner at the National Museum Building, Washington, in 1996. The lines could almost be her epitaph)

 

[Olesya]

Thank you, Keit. :) Here's one more:

"Perhaps we're too embarrassed to change or too frightened of the consequences of showing that we actually care. But why not risk it anyway? Begin Today. Carry out a random act of seemingly senseless kindness, with no expectation or reward or punishment. Safe in the knowledge that one day, someone somewhere might do the same for you."

 

[Minas Tirith]

Minas Tirath ... thank you. I am smiling with satisfaction after reading your post. You have shown me that this isn't finished yet. It is a doorway. In your post you have basically opened my mind to bigger pictures in terms of this issue.

You're welcome :)

Diana was never really on my "screen" before, so you helped m e too by opening this thread...
Hope you find more food for thought!

M.T.

 

[Jasmine]

Diana wasn't a saint, but she and her actions projected kindness and other qualities that stood in direct contrast to the "drooling and scheming beast of "real life"". For those who desperately needed a sign, she was like an answer that there was a possibility for something different, something kinder and gentler. Something hopeful.

Thank you Keit, this deeply resonated with my own feelings on this subject. I love the way you wrote this. And thank you for the quotes that followed. All were very in-lighting and touched apart of me that needed to hear these things this morning.

Thank you, Keit. :) Here's one more:

"Perhaps we're too embarrassed to change or too frightened of the consequences of showing that we actually care. But why not risk it anyway? Begin Today. Carry out a random act of seemingly senseless kindness, with no expectation or reward or punishment. Safe in the knowledge that one day, someone somewhere might do the same for you."

And thank you Olesya for the above quote. It is so very timely and speaks directly to me as to what is in my heart and mind at the moment. I have been recently thinking about a method to start an "Act of Kindness" project to promote STO growth. I will possibly start a post on the topic after I get going further with it.

I will never forget the day Diana Died. I had woke-up and looked out the window and thought to myself what an incredibly gorgeous September day it was. And the guilt I felt that day after hearing of Diana's death, after thinking it was such a beautiful day, always haunted me. She was a true beckon of light in this world of darkness. She set a wonderful example for all. She will forever be remembered and missed by millions of us who loved her.

 

[Vic]

Thank you Keit, Olesya, for those wonderful Diana quotes. I was unaware she said such beautiful things. What insight she had. She's even more amazing than I thought she was.

I am going to spend the next day or two looking into some information given by Minas Tirith. I seem to be being hit by a bit of negativity yesterday and today. A full EE session dealt with some of it. I need some expert advise on a particular issue - nothing terrible, and I'll ask in another part of the forum.

Oh Keit, you said Diana wasn't a saint. Does such a thing exist? Apart from being a religious construct used to manipulate the 3d masses I mean.

Thanks for your feedback Jasmine.

And thanks again to Keit and Olesya.

 

[Voyageur]

Thank you, Keit. :) Here's one more:

"Perhaps we're too embarrassed to change or too frightened of the consequences of showing that we actually care. But why not risk it anyway? Begin Today. Carry out a random act of seemingly senseless kindness, with no expectation or reward or punishment. Safe in the knowledge that one day, someone somewhere might do the same for you."

Thanks also Keit, and this one you have provided, Olesya, is equally moving as an example of STO direction. When our heroes go, like Diana, or JFK, RFK and MLK, particularly how and why they go, while knowing too, who was likely behind it and knowing we are left with them and their ilk, is a painful lesson that gets buried deep in the consciousness of humanity.

Perhaps it is this unshakable collective memory of these well orientated people that the ptb want to erase and never will until the people that are left just do not remember or know their real messages. Until then, what these people gave will always linger as a counter to what is represented as the opposite, osit.

 

[seek10]

1. There are two basic agents when defining us as human beings - one, a sharpness of mind. Two is kindness of the heart - hearing and sharing the grief of others.
(Receiving Humanitarian of the Tear Award, 1995)

2. I pay great attention to people and I always remember them. Every visit, every meeting is special. Nothing brings me more happiness than trying to help the most vulnerable people in society. It is a goal and essential part of my life, a kind of destiny. Whoever is in distress can call on me. I will come running, wherever they are.
(Last interview given in June 1997 to Le Monde and published by the Paris-based paper a few days before she died there)

3. I feel close to people whoever they might be. We are all the same to begin with, on the same wavelength. That is why I disturb certain people.
Because I am closer to people down there than to people higher up they won't forgive me for that. Because I really have close relations with the most humble people.
(Interview with Le Monde, published shortly before she died)

4. I want the boys to experience what most people already know - that they are growing up in a multi¬racial society in which not everyone is rich, has four holidays a year, speaks standard English and has a Range Rover.
(Diana's hopes for her sons, expressed to friends, 1994)

5. It's prayer, Tony, prayer. It is most important.
(Private words to the Revd Tony Lloyd, Executive Director of the Leprosy Mission, who had commented, "I don't know how you stay sane." 1993)

6. Touch my face. I don't mind at all.
(To a blind man, aged twenty-two. He had asked if he could touch her to find out if she was as beautiful as people said. Diana knelt in front of him and placed his hand on her face, in 1995. Blind people often sensed Diana's magnetic personality, although deprived of her beauty and glamour which entranced so many sighted people)

7. I hope you will always be able to let others share in your own strength.
(From a letter to a cerebral palsy victim, a woman of twenty-seven who had met Diana through the Chicken Shed, a theatre company which welcomes young people of all abilities. Diana also wrote a foreword to her book, Paula's Story, 1993)

8. I was enormously impressed by the genuineness of your approach to the survivors and their families to sustain their morale and to help them maintain their self-esteem. Their tragic stories are a desperately sad reflection of man's inhumanity to man. The victims I have met and their senselessly inflicted injuries have stiffened my resolve to ensure that their needs for care and support are not overlooked in the search for an agreement to outlaw landmines.
(Part of one of Diana's last letters, written 12 August 1997, to Jerry White, co-founder of the Landmines Survivors Network)

9. Life is mostly froth and bubble
Two things stand like stone
Kindness in another's trouble
Courage in your own.
(Words of the Australian poet, Adam Lindsay Gordon, quoted by Diana at a fund-raising dinner at the National Museum Building, Washington, in 1996. The lines could almost be her epitaph)

thank you kiet for the quotes. Very moving. These tell how courageous and mature she is despite being a princess and knowing that possible death is waiting her and still stuck to the truth and to her heart. Isn't it what happened to every influential person of her calibre like Lenon, JFK, RFK, MLK, Arafact etc. As a child, I felt she is the royal family not any body else surrounded her. No wonder she enriched the royal family prestige while she secretly fighting with her husband to be her self (great soul).

 

[seek10]

Not strange really SEEK10 - par for the course. British establishment didn't want the hypnotised monarchy-lovers to see it. They probably threatened Dodi's father, Mohammed Al Fayed, the financer of Unlawful Killing with dire consequences if he didn't withdraw the film from distribution. 911Truth website confirmed that Al Fayed ordered it, through solicitors, to be removed from all sites hosting it.

If the maker( or the personin in control of the movie) of the movie wants to withdraw , it makes sense.

Given that the movie no longer exist for viewing, I see a summary of the movie on the net, I re posted in this thread.

http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,32187.msg440811.html#msg440811

 

[Vic]

Not strange really SEEK10 - par for the course. British establishment didn't want the hypnotised monarchy-lovers to see it. They probably threatened Dodi's father, Mohammed Al Fayed, the financer of Unlawful Killing with dire consequences if he didn't withdraw the film from distribution. 911Truth website confirmed that Al Fayed ordered it, through solicitors, to be removed from all sites hosting it.

If the maker( or the personin in control of the movie) of the movie wants to withdraw , it makes sense.

Given that the movie no longer exist for viewing, I see a summary of the movie on the net, I re posted in this thread.

http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,32187.msg440811.html#msg440811

Thanks, Seek10, I just read it. I knew most of what what is in there, but not all of it. Very, very interesting. So Princess Diana was not only an STO adversary to the royal family, but also, as a Rothschild, to that whole powerful dynasty. She could be described as a rogue Rothschild. To be incarnated in such a mind-boggling role, Diana clearly had to be 'numinous' as New Orleans mentioned. Or perhaps that description is slightly missing the point.

Was she 4th density STO on a major mission in 3rd density? I don't know if that is a valid concept. But that magnetism mentioned by people in the overview, I was lucky enough to have a glimpse of that, and it was like nothing I'd known before or since. She could have sat down in that rehab, and not said a word, and the effect she had on us would have been no less powerful. She was just 'there' and something was emanating from her.

 

[ultra]

I got a copy of the movie off BitTorrent. Interesting angle that you think Charles may have been set-up as a patsy. I have always wondered how the sons coped with knowing that their mother believed that their father was going to have her killed in a car crash - when she subsequently was killed in a car crash. Clearly they cannot believe that he had anything to do with it.

Anyway, a couple of clips that might interest you:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwmjXMVZ_Yk // former mi5 agent David Shayler on Sky News

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swHBticroRo // his ex-gf Annie Machon talking at a truther conference

 

[Vic]

Thanks Ultra - yes, very interesting indeed. Shayler was a brave man- unless he was cointelpro of course.

This thread seems to be taking me in a direction I didn't 'anticipate' - at the moment it seems I am looking at recapitulation and a perpendicular reality. I can't really expand on this at the moment, except to say that I looked at the seven most significant people I was involved in at the time of Diana's death (and the wider period of 1996-99) and have been tracking down certain people.

I feel like a stalker, but with no ill-intent. So far I have found someone who used to be an athiest now working in a catholic convent school under a mother superior. She amazed me once when we were talking about post-death - she tended towards the idea that everything ended for an individual - complete blackness - no consciousness ever again. In which case, she went on, it doesn't really matter what you do during this tiny span on earth as a human, because when you're dead you have no memory and know nothing about what you did in life. You won't exist and never will.

Being a bit slow in those days, I countered with - yes but, for example, you want to do everything you can for your son before you die, don't you? You wouldn't want him to suffer once you'd gone. She came back with - why not, I wouldn't know anything about it, ever.

The stark, harsh truth of what she said hit me between the eyes. It was the fact that she thought it as much as the concept itself that struck me. It's one of those things you always remember. But she was able to face herself a lot better than I could then. Looking back I see glimpses of her separating her feelings from her mind. I actually watched her do that a couple of times. It was a process. Unexpected emotional pain would slam into her. There would then be a process of separation. Looking back I am very impressed. I think a lot of people aim for such a skill.

So it's:

Her
Her son
Her Auntie Diane
Princess Diana
Mohammed Al Fayed
Keith Allen
Marcus

I find this very exciting - but I know it can turn dark. That's fine.

 

[Joe]

Vic, during one of the latest SOTT radio shows Diana wasn't discussed, but she was in this thread before the show:

cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,32196.0.html

Vic, did you watch the documentary "unlawful killing"?

Hi Perceval

Amazingly I didn't watch it. I'm not sure how I missed it. I searched the Internet this morning but its been pulled without a trace. I don't suppose you know of a source?

I'll PM you.

 

[H-KQGE]

Just a heads up. The film "Diana" arrives in the movie theatres next Friday. I don't know how i feel about Hollywood (or whoever's making it) giving her life the big screen treatment. It stars Naomi Watts as Diana. I don't see her doing Diana justice, regardless if she's a good actress or not. I'm actually expecting her to just mimic her mannerisms in a somewhat crude way. Especially her head thing. I saw a documentary or interview (was a long time ago) with a psychologist/psychiatrist or whoever the networks trotted out for the cameras, & it was said that she had an extreme trauma or something.
They might have said PTSD, along those lines anyway, & i definitely remember them saying that her head thing was a "classic example" of that kind of trauma. It was around the time that i first started paying attention to her specifically, seeing as she clearly was different to the mob she married into. That stuck with me.

The first seven quotes of princess D (quoted by Keit, thanks btw) tie in perfectly with almost every speech given by the true torch-bearers of any time, those who were champions of the heart. Will any be used? Probably the landmine ones. The one quoted by Olesya gets me teary, so i doubt that'll get a look in. It seems she had a knack for powerful & emotive sayings/speeches but i'll still be surprised if they're used. Quotes 2 & 3 from Keit brings me to my last thought on this movie. The care & undivided attention she gave to people (especially children) is almost impossible to re-create in a movie so how is that going to be portrayed? Will they even bother? Anyways, just a heads up for next week.

 

[SeekinTruth]

Yeah, those quotes really epitomize Diana's spirit. It's a great compilation.

 

[Arwenn]

Vic, did you watch the documentary "unlawful killing"?

Hi Perceval

Amazingly I didn't watch it. I'm not sure how I missed it. I searched the Internet this morning but its been pulled without a trace. I don't suppose you know of a source?

I'll PM you.

Thanks for bringing this topic up Vic, you must cherish the fact that you actually got to meet her in person. I am also interested in watching Unlawful Killing and searched for this documentary to no avail- they did a very thorough job of scrubbing it off the net.

Perceval, would it be too much to ask you if you know of a source? :/