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'Especially try to ponder, when they ask Lazar:
- What is the top speed of the saucer?
Remember the Rogan interview and others, where Bob tells him, when looking up almost directly from below the craft, toward the craft from the tarmac ground, its hull outlines and details should have been sharp, right? But its outlines were blurry and visually distorted, because the powerful gravity-waves generating motor was working inside of it and it was literally bending light = distorting space and time before the very eyes of people trying to observe it! Was that craft already partially in 4th Density because of merely turning on its engine and the units described in our physics books started changing inside and in the immediate surroundings of that craft?

Remember the reports and the C's talking about the insides UFO craft: how it is Changing Physical Units. So then the speed question, how many seconds it takes for the saucer to get from zero to 200 miles, like a Forma 1 car speed-rating.. doesn't make sense!

Because the engine is so powerful that it distorts the very fabric of space and time itself! So you cannot measure its speed, because it literally changes / distorts the units of space and time, on which physics values you BASE your speed calculations! As a result Lazar tells him:
- Such a saucer can instantly travel to insanely far distances!

Kinda a bucket of cold water poured on our human heads, no?
 
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So then the speed question, how many seconds it takes for the saucer to get from zero to 200 miles, like a Forma 1 car speed-rating.. doesn't make sense!

Because the engine is so powerful that it distorts the very fabric of space and time itself! So you cannot measure its speed, because it literally changes / distorts the units of space and time, on which physics values you BASE your speed calculations! As a result Lazar tells him:
- Such a saucer can instantly travel to insanely far distances!
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It is crazy, yes. There´s an article on UFO propulsion on Cass substack:

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UFOs/UAP Part 6

UFO propulsion and consciousness
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May 27, 1995​

Q: (RS) I want to know whether we can have any clues on the propulsion systems of UFOs?​
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A: Sure!​
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Q: (RS) What’s the mechanism of the propulsion?​
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A: This is difficult to answer when posed in such a manner, as we are talking about multiple realities, density levels and various modes as well!! […]​
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Q: (RS) […] the only way that I can perceive traveling the long distances involved in interstellar space is to have what is called a “spacetime” machine. We cannot move the enormous distances unless you can fold, somehow, time and space. You cannot fold space unless you join it and fold time. You cannot have interstellar travel unless you have a spacetime machine. But, a spacetime machine means to also have the ability to move forward and backward in time, to manipulate time. […] In our third level, the motion in space and time occurs via the change of the unit of time and space; therefore, can we change the unit? [This “changing the unit” seems to imply some form of spacetime metric engineering, discussed below.]​
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A: Yes, this is precisely what we mean when we speak of “transiting from 4th to 3rd.”​
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Q: […] (RS) Now, the question of the units, it is very important, a fundamental question, because, say, you are outside a UFO, and you see the UFO as big as a car, say, and people go inside and report this enormous interior. There is no other way to do this than by changing the unit. What is for us one inch, that unit is completely different inside. For us the unit is the same along the three directions. Now, if you are inside, they can have different units in different directions. This means that if you are outside a cube, and you go inside, the shape, not only the dimensions but the shape even, can be different.​
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A: Density-borderline cross-awareness.​
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Q: […] (RS) At the third level, is it true that the value of the dimension is changed by the available energy, or the energy is used to change the value of the units? [According to Hal Puthoff’s theory, below, an immense amount of energy is required for this kind of spacetime engineering.]​
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A: This concept crosses the density barrier, not limited to level three.​
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Q: (RS) Goes up to level four. That’s the means of propulsion of the UFO.​

In other words, such engineering must take into account higher dimensions. Dr. Garry Nolan speculates that an advanced technology may be able to “project material objects” from a higher-dimensional space, in which case the driving force or propulsion mechanism may not reside in the craft itself, but in the higher dimension. Observers would see no evidence of a propulsion mechanism, because the craft would be controlled and powered from elsewhere. They would see only the 3D projection of a 4D object being moved from that space, similar to how a 2D disc of light on the wall is controlled by the 3D hand moving the flashlight.
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The Am-EU finished the The Undergrounders chapter in Beyond Disclosure: Underground Bases Higher Dimensions Alien Abduction & Cryptozoology by Harrison Koehli on August 31st, led by Mari.

Participants: Mari, RedFox, Laurs, Anya112003, Redrock12, Saki, Il Matto, polly, Breo, Aliana, Saki, Pecha

I've also attached the mind map below in both PNG & PDF form. For readability, here's printed the mind map in bulleted form here:

The Undergrounders
  • Mythical and Occult Underground Narratives: Folklore like Zuni emergence myths and legends of tunnels in Mexico/South America, alongside occult tales of Agartha’s advanced “hidden masters” (e.g., Helvetius’s 17th-century alchemist visitor, Blavatsky’s Tibetan masters), describe subterranean civilizations with advanced tech and psychic abilities, often tied to world control.
  • Fictional and Blurred Accounts: Works like Bulwer-Lytton’s The Coming Race (1871) and Ossendowski’s Beasts, Men and Gods (1922) blend fact and fiction, depicting underground races (e.g., Atlanteans, Lemurians) surviving cataclysms, using “vril” energy or telepathy, with Shaver’s Teros/Deros tales (1943) amplifying these via telepathic Lemurian contact.
  • Cryptoterrestrial Hypothesis: Modern ufology, via Tonnies’s The Cryptoterrestrials (2010) and others (e.g., Jorjani, Coulthart), posits UFOs originate from earthly underground/undersea bases, potentially ancient Atlantean survivors, contrasting the extraterrestrial hypothesis, with claims of Nordics or cryptoterrestrials influencing human affairs.
  • Cassiopaean Insights on Undergrounders: The Cassiopaeans deny a literal Agartha but confirm an underground civilization, active for 14,000 years, using TDARM tech to duplicate bodies for war casualties (e.g., 72,355 WWII, 23,469 Vietnam) as “workers” for 4D STS, with bases at depths up to 3,108 miles, lit by magnetic resonance.
  • Nazi-Antarctic Connection: A WWII-era Nazi underground base in Antarctica, built 1941–1945, was instructed by “Antareans” (STS Orion humanoids) via the Thule Society, assimilating Germans into a pre-existing subterranean population to develop a “master race,” per Salla’s sources and Cassiopaean sessions.
  • Psychic Projection and Media Influence: An “army” of 1.6 million 3D/4D subterranean Aryan psychic projectors, part of “Thor’s Pantheum,” influences high-level human thought via “thought-form transmission,” with media like Independence Day (Project Awaken) using subliminals to shape perceptions of aliens.
  • (Mari): Shares scene from Ancient Apocalypse (S2E12)It depicts evolution of souls rather than that of a race. The 4th world mentioned could be a reference to 4th density.
    • (RedFox): It very well cold be, seeing as the second world is populated by animals.
  • (Breo): Once went to Mt. Shasta long ago and saw that there's a lot of new age book stores in the area. It was startling for me even then. Lots of books talking about undergrounders and entities. Took a hike there and felt intense sensations--there's definitely something strange there.
    • (RedFox): Did you notice any vegan restaurants?
    • (Breo): Yep, those folks were there. Lots of anti-smokers too.
  • (Laurs): What is the role of free will in that scenario (souls extracted from warfare), where souls can be tampered with before going to the light/silver cord? Perhaps there was a consent given at some point prior?
    • (RedFox): In the recent session, it doesn't give the impression that they can easily do this with souled individuals.
    • (Laurs): For 4D STS, it's no problem for them to focus on lots of people at once, since they can move through time.
    • (Aliana): Do OPs have a silver cord? Maybe they do have them if they return to a soul pool.
  • (Mari): Shares video: #Conspiracy2025 #shorts #AmericanMysteryFans Disappeared in the Mist: The Lost Soldiers of WWI
    • (Laurs): Perhaps this happens during catastrophes as well (earthquakes, floods, etc.).
    • (RedFox): Shares session:
      Q: (Approaching Infinity) A couple other possible variations are mentioned in the sessions, mostly based on the MIA/KIA discussion. First there is reanimation, where the soul is picked up prior to going to 5D and reinserted into the reanimated body. Second is body duplication/cloning, which resembles reanimation, except a new, replacement body is created. And the third might be a strictly 3D abduction, for example, where the physical body enters a 4D area without TDARM, like when one enters or is taken to an underground base. Are these accurate?
      A: Close enough!
      Q: (Approaching Infinity) Why is alpha-state induction considered an abduction, which implies some part of us is taken? Did "level 3" just mean it takes place strictly in 3D?
      A: Abduction there refers to consciousness.
      Q: (L) So they're just taking your consciousness, is that it?
      A: Yes
      Q: (Approaching Infinity) In the Missing 411 cases in which bright, athletic men go missing and turn up dead in water, there is medical evidence that many of them were alive for much of the time they were missing, and only died shortly before their bodies were found. What happened to them during the time they were alive, which sometimes lasted days or several weeks?
      A: Food source.
      Q: (L) Well they weren't eaten.
      A: Emotional food. Also breeding experiments.
  • (Mari): In the Georgia Le Carre romance novel, The Other Side of Midnight, they mention a utopian underground city where people every now and then need to give blood as part of a routine medical procedure.
    • (Laurs): Noticed in Dubai that people have to go to the clinic every two years to check for HIV and most of the time they have to give blood. What exactly are they doing with that blood? It's similar to the people living in underground facilities in The Other Side of Midnight.
    • (polly): Is it possible that body parts and blood being used to create these bodies for extracted souls? What if chemtrails in there are there to trap people for easier collection? Perhaps it is the knowledge of the silver cord is one of the key things protecting people during their transit. There are accounts of deceased folks whose consciousness doesn't know they are even dead.
    • (Saki): There was a movie "Sixth Sense" from the early 2000's that explores the issue ofpeople who don't know they are dead.
    • (RedFox): In the context of war, I'd imagine a lot of folks, in their dying breaths, are calling out for anyone to save them. In their desperate state, they lower their guards and perhaps make them easier to be abducted. I heard that walls of fire imagery represents the TDARM, so try to avoid it.
  • (polly): Shares an article regarding Celtic traits: Understanding the Complex Genetics Behind Red Hair – From Ancient Origins to Modern Expressions
  • (RedFox): Notice that in the Independence Day movie, the people who welcomed the aliens were destroyed.
  • (Pecha): Perhaps this transfer of enlightenment frequency graduation tasked to Thor's Pantheum is projecting this into creative people to create media that slowly awakens people.

For Next Time
We will likely continue with the "The Undergrounders" on page 178, which is part of Part 2: Underground Bases and Civilizations in Harrison Koehli's Beyond Disclosure: Underground Bases Higher Dimensions Alien Abduction & Cryptozoology.

We meet on 4:00 PM (16:00) Coordinated Universal Time (UTC) on Sundays.
 

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Thank you all for joining today´s workshop! It was great and intriguing discussion! 😊

We´ve finished The Undergrounders chapter of Harrison Koehli's book Beyond Disclosure, and we´ll continue next Sunday, 14th Sep 2025, from the page 229 - hopefully covering Cattle Mutilations and Alien Nutrition.

Here is the folder with audios and videos of the workshops.
The Undergrounders Part 1: audio and video.
The Undergrounders Part 2: audio and video.

Have a nice week and see you next time!


The links to what was discussed today:

Read Laura´s review of the L. Picknett and C. Prince’s The Stargate Conspiracy book: The Stargate Conspiracy

The lecture given by the Picknett and Prince for the 20th anniversary of The Stargate Conspiracy book; The Nine Deception | 20 Years of The Stargate Conspiracy:

The Nine and Roddenberry; from series Ancient Aliens: Is "Star Trek" Real? (S11, E8):

The Cs session on Oct 20th 1994:
Q: What were Atlantean drone workers?
A: Slave people controlled by crystal.
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Grok´s (not so good) summary of Laura´s SHOTW ch.11 on Viracocha and Sargon the Great:

The underground city Derinkuyu in Turkey; from Cass Substack:
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Interview with Dr. John Brandenburg on hybrids:

Art Bell discusses Human Alien Hybrids with Prof. David Jacobs:


Additional links mentioned in the chat:
 
Mari said:
Thank you all for joining today´s workshop! It was great and intriguing discussion! 😊
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Thank you Mari, you do a wonderful job of summarising and facilitating discussion.

When we got to discussing the following extract from the Transcripts:
Laura said:
Q: Okay. Change gears: Why is the rooster, or the crowing of the rooster, associated with the idea of underground cities, civilizations, or bases?

A: What causes the rooster to crow?

Q: Light. But, how is light related to an underground city?

A: Tis not just light, but the emergence of light from the depths of the darkness.
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We spoke a little about the symbolism of the rooster (by the way, it was Peter's Denials in the Gospel of Mark that I was trying to reference).
So, the discussion of the rooster was interesting.
But it was downright weird when I arrived at work this morning and found this on my desk:

Cockerel.jpeg

Anyway, it was just a weird thing that happened. :huh:
 
Hi everyone,

Here are the links for the recent Aus-Asia-Am group discussion on The Secret History of the World and How to Get Out Alive by Laura Knight-Jadczyk.

Here's the video of the last meeting
The audio
And the folder
And the slide show

We will start the Afterword and read up to (not including) the subsection The Gascons on p 641 our next workshop on Saturday at 6pm Sydney AEST time (GMT+10).

See you all then!

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Below are the links to what we discussed:

NSW Attorney General says certain prayers are illegal
Perth Australia - Fair Work Commission backs company who fired employee for accidentally misgendering someone at a leadership training

An ex-serviceman talking about being recruited in the Monarch Mind control program, headed by Michael Aquino (a Satanist, an officer in the US Army & a specialist in psychological warfare for military intelligence; and who possibly had ties to the Franklin case)

50s examples of elegance and grace

Joe Rogan podcast episode #2374 about the discovery of the fabled Egyptian Labyrinth:

Ben van Kerkwyk's video on this finding: The Unknown Ancient site greater than the Pyramids confirmed with satellite scans

Bx on Twitter/X with a 5 part documentary on Satanic cults

Terry Hawkins' book Why Wait to be Great
 
The Am-EU finished the The Undergrounders (p178-end of chapter) chapter in Beyond Disclosure: Underground Bases Higher Dimensions Alien Abduction & Cryptozoology by Harrison Koehli on September 7th, led by Mari.

Participants: Mari, Redrock12, Saki, Aliana, Goemon_, polly, Il Matto, Anya112003, Pecha

I've also attached the mind map below in both PNG & PDF form. For readability, here's printed the mind map in bulleted form here:

The Undergrounders
  • Cryptoterrestrial vs. Alien Origins: Jorjani attributes most UFO sightings to an underground human population, potentially ancient Martians/Atlanteans, while the Cassiopaeans assert these are mostly alien, controlling the undergrounders, with the “master race” tied to alien hybridization programs (September 21, 1996).
  • Thor’s Pantheum and Project Awaken: An army of 1.6 million 3D/4D Aryan psychic projectors, mostly subterranean, influences creative minds via “thought-form transmission” to shape perceptions of aliens, as seen in Independence Day’s subliminals, part of the broader “Project Awaken” (September 21, 1996).
  • Underground Civilization and Hybridization: The “Nation of the Third Eye,” a bi-density (3D/4D) underground race with advanced psychic abilities, originated 14,000 years ago due to cometary impacts, with modern inhabitants including duplicated war casualties and hybrids “harvested” from human mothers, managed by 4D STS Orions (November 23, 1996).
  • Deep-Level Punctuators: Figures like Sargon, Quetzalcoatl, and the original Rothschilds emerge from underground bases as “deep-level punctuators,” trained and memory-wiped to influence history, with improved genetic and control tech ensuring loyalty, though earlier attempts sometimes produced “good” defectors (August 17, 2003; January 13, 2024).
  • Surface Infiltration: Approximately 2–2.5 million undergrounders operate on the surface as “handlers” or agents provocateur, influencing politics, media, and culture, with agendas including depopulation and alien disclosure preparation, often indistinguishable from humans but detectable by sensitive individuals (July 29, 2023).
  • Transdimensional Bases: Underground facilities, up to 3,108 miles deep, are trans-density (primarily 4D), immune to Earth changes, with magnetic resonance lighting and access via dimensional portals, as seen in cases like the Amicizia group and the Alaskan “dark pyramid” (April 27, 2024).
  • July 19, 1997 session:
    Q: Okay. Change gears: Why is the rooster, or the crowing of the rooster, associated with the idea of underground cities, civilizations, or bases?
    A: What causes the rooster to crow?
    Q: Light. But, how is light related to an underground city?
    A: Tis not just light, but the emergence of light from the depths of the darkness.
    Q: Are there such things as 'DEROS,' as described in this underground bases book?
    A: Detrimental Robots.
    Q: Are DEROS part of the underground city/bases scenario?
    A: Yup.
    • (polly): Different birds respond to different levels of light in the atmosphere. Humans also do so as well.
    • (Il Matto): Maybe it's also saying that the underground cities have a mix of both STO & STS people there
    • (Saki): There's a passage in the New Testament that goes something like man has rejected light.
    • (Il Matto): There's Peter's denial too with the rooster crowing three times. It's a sign to wake up.
  • (polly): Shares an article titled "How To Use Crystals To Generate Electricity", in reference to the sessions talking about Atlantean crystals. Another one on piezoelectricity.
  • (Mari): In The Secret History of the World, Chapter 11 talks more about the deep-level punctuators and their effects on the world.
  • (Saki): There was a Star Trek episode with the Tribbles being able to sniff out alien entities.
  • (Saki): It's good to be vigilant when someone is using body language that can make people manipulable.
  • (Mari): Maybe Sheldon from the Big Bang series is to condition people to the influence of undergrounders? The Georgia Le Carre book, The Other Side of Midnight also described the people in the underground cities as NPCs.
  • (Pecha): Shares X link with videos on strange figures with hypnotic stares and gestures behind speaking politicians:
    https://twitter.com/x/status/1943375343710269620
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  • (Aliana): I wonder if planned parenthood is related in some way to this genetic hybridization program.

For Next Time
We will likely start the chapter titled, "Cattle Mutilations" on page 225, which is part of Part 3: Mutilations, Missing Persons and Alien Nutrition in Harrison Koehli's Beyond Disclosure: Underground Bases Higher Dimensions Alien Abduction & Cryptozoology.

We meet on 4:00 PM (16:00) Coordinated Universal Time (UTC) on Sundays.
 

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Thank you all for joining today´s workshop and for a great discussion! 😊

We´ve finished today the chapter on Cattle Mutilations and half of the chapter on Alien Nutrition from Harrison Koehli's book Beyond Disclosure. We´ll continue next Sunday, 21st Sep 2025, from the page 251 - the grand plan is to finish Alien Nutrition chapter and continue with the chapter on Human Mutilations, so until the p.286/7.

Here is the folder with audios and videos of the workshops, including today´s workshop audio and video titled:
"Beyond Disclosure Part 3 - Cattle Mutilations and Alien Nutrition Part 1".

Have a nice week and see you next time!


The links to what was discussed today:

Tucker Carlson special with Christopher O’Brien, author of the book Stalking the Herd (2014):
https://twitter.com/x/status/1635487366248017922

Jeremy Corbell, “Animal Mutations, Cannibals, UFOs & The Covert Program To Monitor Infected Brains In The Food Chain”

Tucker Carlson in the interview with the Reducted team:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1734793831680209115

New Session Update (June 28, 2025); Cass Substack:
New Session Update (June 28, 2025)

David Lynch’s Twin Peaks; hyperdimensional energetic feeding:

Paul Eno, lecture on “Aliens and Exorcism: Why Do UFOs Turn up in ‘Possession’ Cases?”
x.com/TheUfoJoe/status/1740874916193611792
(The whole lecture see here: youtu.be/b02Daq3v6oo)

Karla Turner with Art Bell (1994):
https://twitter.com/x/status/1739563165250408823

extra - Karla Turner from the panel in 1993:
youtu.be/JOnLj88ha_o?t=4844


Additional links mentioned in the chat:
 
Thank you Mari for organizing and leading the session and thanks to all for networking. In regards to the last few comments, NO FEAR, Here is a quote from Psalm 91 verses 5-8:

Thou shalt not be afraid for the terror by night; nor for the arrow that flieth by day;
Nor for the pestilence that walketh in darkness; nor for the destruction that wasteth at noonday.
A thousand shall fall at thy side, and ten thousand at thy right hand; but it shall not come nigh thee.
Only with thine eyes shalt thou behold and see the reward of the wicked.

And in reference to Charlie Kirk, J.P. Sears, Awaken with JP, has a touching comment on sott.net (front page) or youtube: Awaken with J P Charlie Kirk-An American Hero
 
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