Charlie Kirk is dead... A sad day in history

[axj]

Reposting this here from the Fuentes thread regarding people like him claiming that there is no evidence of Mossad/Israel involvement:

I think that circumstancial evidence is still a type of evidence and there is more than enough of it in this case:

- Mossad/Israel's history of being involved in many assassinations and false flag attacks, including 9/11

- Kirk started to criticize Israel and perhaps more importantly, refused to take $150 million from Israel

- Credible reports that Kirk was afraid of Mossad/Israel punishing him

- Netanyahu repeatedly denying that Israel had anything to do with it and apparently lying that Kirk still completely supported him and Israel's actions. A head of state denying being responsible for an assassination is quite unprecedented in itself.

- There is some evidence of occult symbology in this assassination, eg. numerology (666 and 999), the pyramid, etc. For example, Gigi Young is pointing out that this has occult or 'dark magic' fingerprints all over it. According to the C's, the real controllers of Mossad are Kaballists.

The only real counter-argument is indeed that the blowback for Israel has been quite unprecedented as well, so there is the possibility that another powerful faction such as the globalists, the technocrats or the nationalists are framing Israel as part of a power struggle.

 

[Approaching Infinity]

Here's Paramount Tactical guy's latest statement:

So, like with the rifle photo, another instance of a refusal to confirm or deny a very important detail - even from those closest to him!

https://twitter.com/x/status/1969778022850208068

NYP quotes Erika saying Kirk refused to wear a vest.

 

[Natus Videre]

I went back to the raw livestream footage and read the comments under the video.

Raw Footage of Charlie Kirk TPUSA Shooting at Utah Valley University

Some people noticed that there was a dark figure/shadow (somebody's head?) that kept appearing and disappearing on the roofs of multiple buildings at various moments before and after Kirk's assassination.

Shadowy figure 1 (continuously visible from 9:04 to 9:34, and from 10:10 to 10:45 due to camera angle; later, when the camera has the roof in sight, the figure reappears at 20:24 and disappears at 20:48, as if "ducking")


Shadowy figure 2 or 3 (disappears 3 seconds after the shot)


I mapped the possible locations of these shadowy figures relative to Kirk and "Tyler".


And here is the 3D view of the shadowy figures and "Tyler". I can't tell whether the shadowy figure is placed at S2 or S3 from the livestream camera angle, so here are the two possibilities.



So maybe this is why the FBI doesn't want to show the area to the left of "Tyler", because it would reveal other shooters or "assassination coordinators".

 

[Learner]

Back to how the mainstream in Germany handles the Kirk assassination now:

After the above described apparently pretty slow start of not even saying anything about it, german mainstream radio today has the Kirk thing (and that the supposed shooter is facing the death penalty) as the number 1 news. So the reporting on it seems to have shifted quite a bit in germany. And as said earlier, one needs to also remember that Kirk was very likely not a known person for almost everyone in germany before the assassination.

I am one of those who has never heard of Charlie Kirk before he has been assassinated. In particular it was shocking to me what the mainstream media in Germany, politicians and very radicalized portions of the "Left" (like Antifa) here made out of it; some comments were just so vile that it was unbelievable.

Here's one example (from German Telegram channel Kanzlerdaddy - translated below):

It's getting more and more insane: Green politician wishes death upon Kirk fans

Jürgen Kasek, former chairman of the Saxony Green Party, calls on supporters of the murdered Charlie Kirk to follow him. He posts on X:

“To all the Kirk fans out there: follow your leaders.”

The comments on the post sparked a storm of indignation over the post, which can be understood as a call to follow him in death.

This is not the only gaffe Kasek has made in connection with the murder of Charlie Kirk. Shortly before, he posted a photo of a banner that reads:

"No mourning for fascists! Rest in piss, Charlie Kirk!"

Kasek commented:

“Kirk is now also being remembered in an appropriate manner in Leipzig.”

{He received quite the shitstorm for these comments that are not visible anymore. Like here:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1966919938838524101

}

The politician seems to be aware that his posts could have consequences for him and that he may no longer be allowed to travel to the US, but this does not seem to bother him:

“They know that I have no intention of traveling to an authoritarian, fascist country.”

Since Kirk's murder, Kasek has published two posts about him on his blog, in which he paints a picture of Kirk as a white racist.

In one of his posts, Kasek distanced himself from Kirk's murder, but indirectly blamed him for it:

“Every dead person is one too many. There is no justification for violence, and violence reproduces new violence. That doesn't change the fact that the murdered man was a radical racist and white supremacist who ultimately died from what he himself preached: hatred.”

Translated with DeepL.com (free version)

{By the way, in late 2021 this guy had obviously celebrated the passing of an AfD politician who was said to have been dying from COVID - "Corona has done more against Nazis than the security authorities." He is father of two kids himself, like Charlie Kirk.}

Regarding Jimmy Kimmel, one German news portal - GMX - is maintaining that "freedom of expression is faltering" by him being suspended:

After making critical comments about the murder of right-wing activist Charlie Kirk, Jimmy Kimmel was suspended “indefinitely” by his network ABC. What initially appeared to be a purely business decision quickly turned out to be a political and social earthquake—with serious consequences for freedom of expression.

[...] {The article then brings up Barack Obama who warns of a "dangerous form of state intimidation, following by summarizing the stance of Hollywood with Stephen Colbert stating: "This evening we all are Jimmy Kimmel" - probably in reference to people stating "We are Charlie Kirk".}

Freedom of expression is faltering

The Jimmy Kimmel case has become much more than just a dispute about a TV presenter. It reflects the increasing political influence on the media, culture, and civil society. Many now see freedom of expression not only under pressure, but fear that it is already being restricted.

The ACLU warns that the government is currently “seizing every opportunity to enforce ideological conformity.” PBS media expert Dylan Byers also says, “What we're seeing here is a pattern — and future administrations could use this precedent to silence their opponents.”

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This article didn't mention the outrageous comment Jimmy Kimmel has made (extracted from a German RT article):

“That's not how an adult mourns the murder of someone they called a friend. That's how a 4-year-old mourns a goldfish, okay?” [Translated with DeepL.com (free version)]
Similarly, Dunya Hayali, a journalist working for ZDF, one of the main broadcasting German media platforms, received a considerate shitstorm (among it even death threats apparently) after a very disrespecting comment (she issued a lot of vile and outrageous comments over the years), where she stated it was not justifiable to celebrate the death of Charlie Kirk - but immediately added that this applies despite his “abhorrent, racist, sexist, and misanthropic statements.” The same article which just has been linked to also states:

"These are lies. Charlie Kirk's work is well documented in the media. You will search in vain for a report in which he insults or disparages anyone. Instead, you will find reports in which he takes a stand against hatred of homosexuals, condemns racism, and treats people with warmth and friendliness. [...] So it would be easy to let him speak for himself. But then the narrative that a right-wing extremist had been killed in a “firearm attack” would collapse."
Additionally, a closer contact of mine on Telegram wrote that she didn't know Charlie Kirk before (like most Germans) but meanwhile read a lot about him and couldn't find anything about him that could justifiably depict him as a mean individual, and that he was respectful towards everybody even if there was difference in opinion and a very friendly guy.

I didn't read as much as my acquaintance but thought about my reaction to the MSM, individuals and groups issueing hate comments in my country regarding his death. I felt (and feel) a lot of rage though never having heard about Charlie Kirk before. It is the pathetic way in which they act and have been enjoying a "hall pass" to say whatever they want for many years now without having to fear serious consequences either from their paymasters nor from the populace which they despise and which is coerced by law to pay them via television and radio licence fees. If a considerable portion of the populace is driving a veritable shitstorm against them they simply "vanish" for a while with the option to come back later (as it appears to be the case with Dunya Hayali at present), to continue as they did before under the "aegis" of just "acting in the best interests of democracy" (which is becoming more and more obvious to be the opposite with each passing day). Or they just "re-appear" in another format so that the populace is being kept quiet.
What adds to my anger is the way how good is being reviled while evil is being rewarded. There's just this current example regarding Sparkasse [thrift bank] Köln/Bonn:

Sparkasse Cologne/Bonn causes irritation with comment on Charlie Kirk

Sebastian Hahn - 17.09.2025

An Instagram comment by Sparkasse Köln/Bonn on the murdered US podcaster Charlie Kirk is causing quite a stir. The bank has had to admit to a mistake.

Sparkasse Köln/Bonn has drawn criticism and incomprehension with a comment on the death of right-wing activist Charlie Kirk. Under an Instagram post by Tagesschau on the assassination of the Trump supporter, the bank's official account wrote: “Rest in peace Charlie Kirk,” followed by a rainbow and a peace dove emoji.

The comment received several hundred likes, but numerous users also criticized it. Sparkasse Köln/Bonn has since responded and deleted the comment. Charlie Kirk was shot dead last Wednesday in the US state of Utah during a public appearance at a university. He was considered a supporter of Donald Trump and a Christian fundamentalist.

Sparkasse Köln/Bonn apologizes for comment on Charlie Kirk

On Wednesday, Sparkasse Köln/Bonn responded to the criticism on Instagram. “The comment was not written by our employees, but by an external service provider who supported us in community management.” The bank immediately terminated its relationship with the service provider after the incident.

“We stand for democracy and democratic values. We are just as shocked as you are about the comment,” the post continues. As a public-law institution, it has been committed to democracy for decades. “We want to live in a Cologne and Bonn where every voice is heard,” those responsible continue. {My comment: Really? It rather looks to be the opposite.}

[...]

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In conclusion, I think what the whole incident revealed how deep the rabbit hole of vileness and inversion of values goes, and how far ponerization has progressed (not just inside Germany). This whole story is just one more push for seeing reality more clearly, making it sink in even more.

 

[rognaill]

I will say watching the the memorial live in Glendale and seeing/hearing the vibrations of those gathered (of their own free will) within that premise, I do understand more and more why it is important to not interfere (with free will) as the C's have reiterated for decades now.

Quorum changes, interesting tweaks to expected physics, and the power of tonal vibrations amplified by a gathering, it makes more and more sense that our future is "open".

 

[Adobe]

Charlie Kirk Memorial. Live from Phoenix AZ

 

[A Jay]

I went back to the raw livestream footage and read the comments under the video...So maybe this is why the FBI doesn't want to show the area to the left of "Tyler", because it would reveal other shooters or "assassination coordinators".

These "figures" are fixed objects on the roof. Niall mentioned them here:

[Ignore the first post, which is almost certainly a fixed object on the roof of the Woodbury building right of Kirk's position. It's the video clip in the reply by Red_StateRebel that I'm referring to]

 

[aragorn]

someone found strange sounds, too...

I don't have enough expertise to say if this guy is totally off with saying that the second sound (the 'thud') can't be an echo from the rifle, but it made me think of a rather tinfoilish theory. What if there was some kind of 'dart pistol' (maybe remotely controlled) that was aimed at CK, and as soon as the guy with his finger on the button for the dart pistol heard the shot (which he was expecting) he pressed the button/trigger? However, that would mean that Robinson's bullets were blanks/dummies, otherwise his bullet would've hit at least something. Or, maybe that was the deal that Robinson thought he made, that he would fire a blank with his rifle to scare everyone? And then to his surprise, CK fell down dead.

Okay, now my brain hurts...too many crazy ideas.

 

[thorbiorn]

Recalling a transcript about assassination, there was:
The major steps include things like assassinations that are accepted by the masses. When such is not objected to, then the next stage is prepared.
Session 21 December 2021

A: Today was not the end of the world in case you didn't notice, however an "end" of sorts will certainly come as we have been suggesting for many years. Time is never definite. Things also happen in steps and stages. The major steps include things like assassinations that are accepted by the masses. When such is not objected to, then the next stage is prepared.

The following from the same session, elaborates and extends into the topic of mass shootings.
The cosmic mind sends many clues, but who is listening?

Q: [...] (L) Next question? (Perceval) They made a comment in there about assassinations. They made a reference to major steps being like assassinations that are accepted by the masses. Is that what the Sandy Hook massacre was?

A: Well, we had in mind things like JFK, RFK, John Lennon, Diana, and others of note. Of course the Sandy Hook affair was an assassination of sorts, but more along the line of psyops with an objective.

Q: (Perceval) You said that it was more along the line of psyops with a specific goal…

A: Remind people how much they need the chancellor and his pals!

Q: (L) Like the scene in “V for Vendetta”. (Perceval) How many individuals were involved in the killings of the people at Sandy Hook?

A: 5

Q: (Perceval) Was the younger guy, Adam, involved? Did he shoot anybody?

A: He shot but did he hit anything???

Q: (L) I would say they involved him. They had him mind-controlled or hypnotized, he had a gun in his hand, ya know... He's undoubtedly pulling the trigger and shooting. (Belibaste) Like Sirhan Sirhan. He was shooting, but he wasn't the real killer. (L) He was there making a lot of noise. Like that French military disaster where they were showing off for the public and supposed to be using blanks, and somebody had live ammunition. Well, he may have had blanks. (Perceval) Did the people who planned Sandy Hook, did they have a plan to include his brother Ryan?

A: Not necessarily.

Q: (Perceval) Did none of the staff that survived or anybody see that there were five people, and not just one?

A: No. But even if they did, remember the Pentagon and Flight 77.

Q: (L) I would say that the ones who actually saw them were dead. They were the ones who were killed. (Perceval) And the people that did this, were they part of an overt US government agency like the CIA or something? Or was it something more murky and hidden?

A: Murky is right. By the way, 5 people includes support, not all shooters with visibility.

Q: (Perceval) It was pretty sick. (L) So was 9/11. So was JFK's assassination. So was Bobby Kennedy's. So was Martin Luther King's. So was Diana's. So was John Lennon's. (Perceval) I know, but you're talking about shooting 20 6-year-old children. (L) Well, look at what they did here in France. Mohammed Merah. (Perceval) But this is just... There are 20 of them. (L) How many were killed up there in Norway? (Thorbiorn) 78, I think. Yeah, with the Breivik shooting, how many shooters were there with that one? (L) Well, that one was pretty much a crazy guy, because they've got him on trial. When they get somebody on trial, it's usually because it's a crazy guy. When the shooter is dead, you can bet that something else was going on. (Ailen) Well, Sirhan... (Perceval) There's a level of personal involvement... Well, I shouldn't be surprised. (L) Well, yeah, why would any of us be surprised? That's the thing. (Thorbiorn) For Breivik, there have been some rumors that there were other people involved. He was framed as the only one. (Belibaste) 78 is a lot for one person to shoot. (L) Yeah. Maybe we should ask. Was there anybody else involved with this Breivik shooting?

A: Out of sight, yes.

Q: (Perceval) Snipers. (Belibaste) Scopes and rifles...

A: Practice run!

Q: (Andromeda) On the same day as Sandy Hook, and the following day, there were a lot of other attacks. There was the slashing of school children in China, and there were a couple of other people with boxcutters, and the guy who was picked up who had 47 guns and had claimed he was gonna do a school shooting or something. What was up with that?

A: All of these types of events are "covered" by HAARP and that cannot be restricted at will.

Q: (L) So in other words they turn on the HAARP thing to muddle people's brains. While they're brains are all turned into tapioca, they do their deed. Then, of course, the thing being turned on and people's brains being muddled, people who are already on the edge or susceptible go off the deep end along with the targets. Is that it?

A: Exactly.

Q: (Andromeda) What about all the coincidences with the Batman movie, with the Sandy Hook reference in the Batman movie? (Perceval) Is that something like that 9/11 mass consciousness signaling to itself?

A: Yes. The cosmic mind sends many clues, but who is listening? And you know what the result of not listening is!

Q: (Perceval) It shouts very loudly at you!

Related might be:
Anything in the USA is nefarious these days.
Session 23 September 2023

Q: (JEEP) Is there anything nefarious in the works for the October 4th emergency broadcast test in the USA?

A: Anything in the USA is nefarious these days.

Q: (L) Well, are they going to send some kind of signal out that's going to trigger and activate some people?

A: Yes.

Q: (Niall) They do it every day...

This was before Trump was reelected, during Biden when:
He is just senile and a useful puppet.
Session 27 April 2024

Q: (Joe) Was Joe Biden replaced?

A: NO. He is just senile and a useful puppet.

Q: (L) Yeah, I mean, if they're going to put somebody there, they'd make 'em at least functional!

Regarding Trump, discussed later in the same year, but quoting an earlier session from 2017, there was:
"Why impeach a perfectly good puppet?"
Session 17 August 2024

(Joe) In a session from 2017, there was a question about if they'd impeach Trump - this was after he'd become president. And they said, "Why impeach a perfectly good puppet?" And they also said in that session that he "gave in to the Deep State." So things changed along the way.

(L) Yeah.

(Joe) So, does that still hold true today?

(L) Well, anybody that gets into that position is basically asking to become a puppet because they're so exposed.

(Joe) Is he a willing puppet, though?

(L) Yeah, well... The C's have mixed reviews about Trump. I mean, very mixed.

(Joe) So is he a puppet? Is our take on Trump close to the reality?

(L) And what is our take?

(Joe) What you just described.

(L) Oh, I'm just talking about the election.

(Joe) Yeah. But in general, a guy came in, not a career politician, came in, thought he was going to be president, found out the hard way. Deep State runs the show, and he's just been trying his best since then. He's well intentioned, but he just isn't able to do anything 'cause they have him hamstrung.

(L) Well, yeah. Yeah. I think that that's what is. Is that basically the way it is?

A: Yes

Q: (L) So: S__ and Jay say that it's mind blowing that people are still falling for this: "If you think Trump is your savior from Biden, then you're still telling them, “'I'm stupid, and I deserve what you wanna give me.'" Well, I don't think anybody here thinks that Trump is a savior from anything, because they're never going to allow him to do anything really significant.

(Joe) In my opinion, the main purpose or the main service that Trump has provided for people who are able to see it, is that by attempting to be the president and do his own thing, and then fighting against them, he has exposed them. He has forced them to a large extent to come out of the woodwork and show their hand. It showed the American people and the world population who really runs America.

(L) Yeah. Well, that's what the C's said would happen. They said big miscalculation, and it would expose the Deep State.

(Joe) Right. It's not about whether or not Trump's going to save anybody. Trump's "service to humanity" was to simply be the kind of guy he is, which is, you know, Art of the Deal, "I'm going down fighting" and that kind of thing, and force them to show their hand. After that it's all gravy.

(L) Yeah, I mean, they'll NEVER let him really do anything significantly effective. Never.

(Joe) And they just tried to kill him.

The assassination of Charlie Kirk shows something about the methods of those more in charge. Others, like Trump et al. who said they would be in charge have increasingly shown they are not. Perhaps a variation of a clown show is a puppet clown show. This one from India, suitable for children age 1?+ is free speech safe: Puppet Clown | Kids Song | LKG Group | Play School Rhymes

 

[gottathink]

Laura reposted this clip on X: some kind of projectile appears to fly from a low angle towards Charlie's neck.

According to the poster, there was apparently a trap door positioned in front of him, from which the projectile could have been shot. I understood that a bullet can't be captured with normal video footage, so possibly it was a slower moving slug, shot with a gun that won't produce an exit wound. Also, the shot would have had to be completely silenced with a muffler and synchronized with a rifle shot (a blank) coming from farther away.

In the end though, it could be just a case of doctored footage.

Anyways, thought that it could be worth posting.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1969243925547233685

After the bullet from afar near-miss as President Trump turned his head at the miraculously perfect moment, I can understand why whoever-it-is set up a short range sure thing shot to ensure the same thing didn’t happen again.

 

[gottathink]

I don't have enough expertise to say if this guy is totally off with saying that the second sound (the 'thud') can't be an echo from the rifle, but it made me think of a rather tinfoilish theory. What if there was some kind of 'dart pistol' (maybe remotely controlled) that was aimed at CK, and as soon as the guy with his finger on the button for the dart pistol heard the shot (which he was expecting) he pressed the button/trigger? However, that would mean that Robinson's bullets were blanks/dummies, otherwise his bullet would've hit at least something. Or, maybe that was the deal that Robinson thought he made, that he would fire a blank with his rifle to scare everyone? And then to his surprise, CK fell down dead.

Okay, now my brain hurts...too many crazy ideas.

Would it not be easy to nearly perfectly synchronise two detonation devices with a radio signal? One device for the projectile that killed CK and the other to a blank fired from a device where the rifle was supposedly located.

 

[Approaching Infinity]

I'm being both honest and sarcastic when I say that this is the most transparent FBI response we've ever gotten about anything:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1969809385418555404

At the very least, it shows that they're feeling the heat and responding to public pressure. However, I don't have any faith that they'll actually deliver by (eventually) putting all the evidence on the table and answering every question to the best of their ability.

 

[lilyalic]

What if the bullet went INTO his carotid artery and travelled down the artery into his heart. Had his heart not been so big it would have fired the bullet back at the assailant, killing him with a headshot. But alas his heart was just too big. He died AND had no cholesterol?

Honestly I just want to see the true autopsy now, this is getting ridiculous.

If the C's say no dice or something I'll cry

I'm being both honest and sarcastic when I say that this is the most transparent FBI response we've ever gotten about anything:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1969809385418555404

At the very least, it shows that they're feeling the heat and responding to public pressure. However, I don't have any faith that they'll actually deliver by (eventually) putting all the evidence on the table and answering every question to the best of their ability.

The comments on this post pretty funny.

 

[Aeneas]

One could imagine that another event will happen, which will equally shock the people, which then will be studied while the Charlie Kirk investigation drops off the radar. A series of such event in quick succession could quickly derail the energy behind the people driven investigations. While the subject of Charlie Kirk is the hot topic right now, they can 'easily' make it go away by creating another event, along with the purported conversation between Karl Rove and journalist Ron Susskind. In it, Karl Rove said:

“We’re an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you’re studying that reality – judiciously, as you will – we’ll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that’s how things will sort out. We’re history’s actors . . . and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.” (Ron Suskind, NYTimes Magazine, Oct. 17, 2004).