Charlie Kirk is dead... A sad day in history

At 37:50 she mentions that her impression is that many people she has met since the Kirk assassination have responding by "realizing they need to go back to church".

Maybe an intended outcome? Or a mistake by those who carried out the assassination? Suppose it depends.
If we think of 4D STS as devious and cunning, but not especially creative, then we would expect them to use tactics they have used in the past over and over. Now that the last decade or more of left wing authoritarian followers dominating the political discourse might be coming to an end, what better to replace it with than the thing which came before it? It worked just fine during the Bush junior years. A swing back to appeal to right wing authoritarian followers now that the masses are fed up of wokeism. What ideology united those types most of all? Patriotism certainly, but more so Religion. The old time kind. Is the Kirk assassination part of this strategy? The bonus part is protection of public support for the Judeo part of the equation. Or perhaps that's the main part.
 
New theory dropped. Israeli exploding mics! :-O


Well, as analysis go it seems plausible.
All the data (inconsistencies) fit.

I suppose that might be possible but I‘m always skeptical when people say, that this is definitely this or that, or that this or that guy was definitely the guy. Especially in circumstances like this where there are justifiably many other theories out there and you can’t be certain.

The guy sounds absolutely certain about everything he has “uncovered“ including that it is “that guy“ that detonated the device. “That guy“ could just as well have scratched his arm because it was itching and have nothing to do with any hypothesized “detonation“.
 
aka Assassination script writers are copying Hollywood script writers. Is Hollywood script writers are copying from some where or somebody putting in their head? we may never know.
I think what the C's were referring to there was that the system is designed to be a time loop and keep us prisoners.
Hollywood is a think tank. Who owns Hollywood? And let's not forget the Thor pantheon who project their ideas.
An additional angle:
There are those at 4D STS "HQ" who take some pleasure fomenting wars and confusion for sport
Session 13 June 2015
A: As could be said: Puleeeze spare us this New Age nonsense.

Q: [laughter] (L) Okay, well, obviously people need to start reading the earlier sessions!

A: Take note however, that there are those at 4D STS "HQ" who take some pleasure fomenting wars and confusion for sport.

Q: (L) So, forget Anunnaki. It's just 4D STS.

A: Yes
If someone close to the operation knew about the movie, or was inspired by it they might not have bothered about the similarity. The following is about events that led to the crash of MH17 over what was then Eastern Ukraine in 2014: Note change in altitude for "signature". - From 35 to 33... - 33. Is 33 the clue? - Yes. Consortium. And who is at the top of this STS pyramid?? - MOSSAD? The Israelis? - Yes
So these signatures are used for what? Just for fun? For whose benefit? - Pride, hubris, warnings to those who know.
The context:
Session 19 July 2014
Q: (L) Okay. We're going to change topics here. As you know, we just had this plane fall out of the sky over the Ukraine. Immediately the US blamed Russia, and then it started blaming the Russian-aided freedom fighters in East Ukraine. Meanwhile, the Russians say it was clearly the Ukrainians in conjunction with US/NATO/UK/Whoever. So, I guess the first thing we ought to ask is: What brought the plane down?

A: [Spiraling] Bomb on the plane placed there prior to departure.

Q: (Pierre) Schiphol airport, again! The famous Underwear Bomber place! So, MOSSAD?

(L) Who was involved?

A: Note change in altitude for "signature".

Q: (Perceval) From 35 to 33...

(L) 33. Is 33 the clue?

A: Yes. Consortium. And who is at the top of this STS pyramid??

Q: (Perceval) Figures.

(L) Who is at the top of this pyramid? And who is at the top?

(Perceval) MOSSAD.

(L) MOSSAD? The Israelis?

A: Yes


Q: (Perceval) It seems the goal was to further demonize Putin and Russia. But was it also to distract from what's happening in Palestine?

A: Absolutely!


Q: (Pierre) Is it only coincidence... before MH 17, there was MH 370, this plane that disappeared from the same company. Is it just coincidence that the two incidents involve the same airline company?

A: Another "signature".

Q: (Data) Why did the plane deviate from its usual course?

A: Instructed by ATC.

Q: (Perceval) Air traffic control at Schiphol?

A: Kiev.

Q: (Perceval) So, some agent...

(L) There was some control by MOSSAD in Kiev, and that whole Nazi business going on there...

(Kniall) They've been there for DECADES!

A: Yes!

Q: (L) I think that was answering Kniall there.

(Data) Why was it necessary to change the course with a bomb on board?

(L) So it would fall where it did. They had to change the course to put it in the middle of the war zone.

(Ark) The Russians were saying that the timing was a little bit miscalculated because it was supposed to come down closer to the Russian territory so that it would be easier to blame Russia.

A: Yes.

Q: (Pierre) It exploded too early.

(L) Yeah, they're so lazy, they never get anything perfect.

(Chu) Or too impatient.

A: But most people are so gullible it doesn't matter.

Q: (Perceval) You can say that again.

(Kniall) Another signature. That suggests some planning at a level behind the first Malaysian plane...

(L) No it doesn't. It's just like answering back to what happened to that first one.

(Pierre) It's like, "They removed the 370, so we'll bring down the 17!"

A: Yes

Q: (Pierre) Which is really screwed up when you think about it. The signal is strong, ya know? Okay, we make MH 370 disappear. And the only answer they have instead of behaving better is, "Okay, we bring down MH 17, and we increase even more the lies and suffering!"

(Perceval) So these signatures are used for what? Just for fun? For whose benefit?

A: Pride, hubris, warnings to those who know.


Q: (Chu) On the session when we talked about the interpreters and stuff, the plane {that disappeared, Flight 370}, if I understood correctly, was a message...

(L) It was a warning...

(Chu) To not go too far.

(L) And they've basically answered by saying, "Up yours!"

A: Yes.

There is also the concept of mass consciousness
Rather than writing up a new text, here are excerpts from an earlier post except that I corrected two of my typing own language errors, and indented to make it more visible what is older.

From post published Jun 16, 2020:
[...]​
Q: (Ark) In fact I was thinking about this today because yesterday there was three strange event. Namely, today I look at statistics on my blog, and like normally I have like, you know like, 600 or 700, you see? Unique visitors. And then, three days ago there was 1500. Two days ago there was like 1700, and yesterday it was 4000. (A**) Really? (L) So it was like telling you something? (Ark) Yes, so it was like quantum jump. It started to grow, grow, grow. It was not just one day, you know? It started growing, growing, growing, and then BOOM to 4000 yesterday. (L) Can you explain the exponential growth of Ark's readership on his blog?
A: Mass consciousness is aware and driving seeking from many quarters.
[...]​

Mass consciousness is one concept; there is also mass unconsciousness. The topic appears in the following excerpt at the end of a rather long discussion of the timeline outlook from Session 3 December 1994 which has a list of predictions.​
From Session 6 February, 2016 there is:​
Q: (Pierre) Okay, so the second question... Obviously, between the timeline described in 1994 and the timeline we're in right now, there are slight differences. Interestingly, for some of the events that were announced in this parallel timeline, which did not occur, nonetheless in the media a few days ago there were articles that were mentioning the possibility of these non-occurring events. The list has “Memphis feels tremors”. It didn't occur yet, but in January there was an article mentioning it might occur. Or, about Queen Elizabeth's serious illness: On February 3rd, there was a tweet that had a million hits or likes announcing that Queen Elizabeth was dead. About Mt. Shasta erupting, it didn't happen yet; but in January there was an article announcing the imminent eruption of Shasta. Are somehow those parallel timeline events kind of porous and there's a resonance...​
(L) Like a bleedthrough?​
(Pierre) Correct.​
A: Or mass unconsciousness perceives something in advance.
Q: (Pierre) So it may yet be in store.​
"[M]ass unconsciousness perceives something in advance." would mean that if one can tune into the mass unconsciousness that perceives something in advance, then one can also pick signs of what is coming for the collective, just like Laura did. The above expression [p]erceives something in advance" also relates to "Mass consciousness is aware and driving seeking from many quarters." used to describe why the number of views went up on Ark's blog, because the subtle perception that there is something to be known precedes the activities that are the outer signs of seeking.​
A difference between mass unconsciousness and mass consciousness could be that the former is more subtle aspect, like the subconscious mind is in relation to the conscious mind.​
Mass consciousness and the actions of humans, appear to be interactive. Interactive is the expression used in the next excerpt about the "collective mind" in relation to a small group, but the principle may also have meaning for larger groups and populations:​
A: Thank you for altering the board. {We had installed more punctuation marks} We worked on your psyches to get you to do that.​
Q: (L) Well, you didn't have to work on our psyches to get us to do it. It makes things faster for us too. We wanted to do it.​
A: Everything is interactive when it comes to the "collective mind."
[...]
If '[e]verything is interactive when it comes to the "collective mind."' then a part of the interactive relation between mass consciousness and the masses is what the masses do or don't do. This is brought out in the following excerpt:​
A: Today was not the end of the world in case you didn't notice, however an "end" of sorts will certainly come as we have been suggesting for many years. Time is never definite. Things also happen in steps and stages. The major steps include things like assassinations that are accepted by the masses. When such is not objected to, then the next stage is prepared.
[...]
It turns out that what expresses itself on Earth in mass human behavior is a reflection of cosmic conditions​
A: We once pointed out that mass human behavior was a reflection of cosmic conditions. Now is the time when all must be extra vigilant. We also pointed out that STS forces are fully aware of prophetic patterns and will change and twist in order to discourage and put those to sleep who are slack in vigilance. Note the human environment and try to imagine what it represents above!!!​
While there are individual lessons, there are also collective lessons. As such the expression above: "the human cycle mirrors the cycle of catastrophe and human mass consciousness plays a part" can relate to the expression in the following session concerning lessons: Session 16 November 1994
A: There is no time as you know it; its all just lessons for the collective consciousness.
[...]
If one selects some expressions, one may with slight editing and some ordering say that:​
1) Mass consciousness is aware and driving seeking from many quarters​
2) mass unconsciousness perceives something in advance​
3) Everything is interactive when it comes to the "collective mind."​
4) the human cycle mirrors the cycle of catastrophe and human mass consciousness plays a part.​
5) mass human behavior is a reflection of cosmic conditions​
6) its all just lessons for the collective consciousness​
7) It is possible to tune into the collective consciousness.​
Finally we are back to: "I feel a Pink Floyd moment coming on"​


So much for the old post. An additional consideration is that we as a group participate in the interactive processes. This would not be surprising, as all individual alive contribute in some way to the history of mankind, and in varying degrees to what could be called the collective consciousness. About the work of the group, there is:
You will see that united efforts send a signal of which you are not fully aware with ramifications as yet unseen. The important element is the colinearity
Session 8 August 2015
(Heimdallr) Is there anything that this group here needs to be doing or focusing on more?

A: Magnetizing.

Q: (L) What does that mean? Magnetizing who or what?

(Galatea) Where? When? Why?

(Heimdallr) How?

A: Fulfilling the function of the lighthouse! If it isn't broke, don't fix it!

Q: (Heimdallr) So, I guess we just continue doing what we're already doing? Man the posts? SOTT and the Forum?

A: More and better! You will see that united efforts send a signal of which you are not fully aware with ramifications as yet unseen. The important element is the colinearity.
 
I suppose that might be possible but I‘m always skeptical when people say, that this is definitely this or that, or that this or that guy was definitely the guy. Especially in circumstances like this where there are justifiably many other theories out there and you can’t be certain.

The guy sounds absolutely certain about everything he has “uncovered“ including that it is “that guy“ that detonated the device. “That guy“ could just as well have scratched his arm because it was itching and have nothing to do with any hypothesized “detonation“.

Did Kirk wear a microphone? As far as I can see he is talking into an external microphone that he is picking up, so why would he wear a microphone? For YouTube audience/recording/audio, maybe?
 
here is the follow up on YT of Lookoutfacharlie:

that clearly points to Stew Peters solution.
This guy hadn't done very much research on gunshots. The "two sounds" are the the sound of the bullet passing close to the microphone (sonic boom shockwave, which sounds like a crack), and the sound of the bullet leaving the rifle (which sounds like a boom). They are around 0.2 seconds apart from each other because it took about 0.2 seconds for the sound from the rifle to reach the location of the microphone. See this paper, for example, which explains the basics.

He compares to a .30-06 recording where you hear a "clean shot", followed some seconds later by the sound of the bullet hitting a metal target. Without seeing the video from which that recording is taken, it's probably the case that it was recorded from the location of the rifle. In that case, you only hear the muzzle explosion, not the sonic "crack", which is only audible if the microphone is somewhere along the actual path of the bullet in front of the rifle.
 
'Serious' and 'hinting' in a ruminating sort of way. Letting my mind run a bit, the use of the term "grandpa's rifle" references 'ownership' and 'age' which can be easily brought back to the time of WWII, while "Mauser" makes me think of Germany. WWII Germany makes me think of Nazi's but also the Holocaust. The lefties were associating Kirk with Nazi's while Netanyahu has said (6x now if I remember correctly) Israel had nothing to do with it. That's just my 'word association' and I could be out-to-lunch.
Continuing with the German them, the surname of Donald Trump has German origins. The Wiki for surname Trump, includes:
Trump is a surname of English and German origin:
  • a German surname, possibly from a word for "drum". [...] It has an older presence in the United States via the 18th-century Amish migration from the Palatinate to Pennsylvania.
  • an English surname derived from Old French trompeor "trumpeter" or "maker of trumpets" (modern surnames Trump and Trumper), recorded from the 1270s.
The majority of people with the surname live in the United States (close to 5,000 individuals, approximately 900 of whom live in Pennsylvania); the surname does survive in both Germany and England, but is comparatively rare (fewer than 500 individuals in each country).
The Wiki for Drumpf
Drumpf, also spelled as Trumpf or Drumpft, is a German surname that dates back to the 16th century. It is most commonly known as the predecessor to the family name of Donald Trump, 45th and 47th president of the United States.
And from a page dedicated to surnames:
The Trumps of America
[...]
It wasn't until the mid-1800s that the Trump name really began to spread throughout America, particularly in New York City. This is where the most well-known Trump family, including the former president's grandfather, Frederick Trump, began their rise to prominence.
Not that related, but if you take the name of the president's grandfather, Frederick, then Fred-erick is related with the name Erika:
The given name Erika is a female name with multiple meanings of Old Norse and Japanese origin.

Erika and the variants Erica, Ericka, or Ereka are feminine forms of Eric, derived from the Old Norse name Eiríkr (or Eríkr in Eastern Scandinavia due to monophthongization). The first element, ei- is derived either from the older Proto-Norse *aina(z), meaning "one, alone, unique", as in the form Æinrikr explicitly, or from *aiwa(z) "long time, eternity". The second element -ríkr stems either from *ríks "king, ruler" (cf. Gothic reiks) or from the therefrom derived *ríkijaz "kingly, powerful, rich". The name is thus usually taken to mean "sole ruler, monarch" or "eternal ruler, ever powerful". It is a common name in many Western societies.
With Fred prefixed Eric, the meaning is peaceful ruler.
 
here's an observation that no one has made (to the best of my knowledge): watch CK's hands and arms when he's supposedly hit - looks, like he's just been zapped with a 50 kV taser, he seizes and falls over.

here's another observation: what usually happens when a human being is hit (upper body) with a rifle round: does the body tense up like it's having an epileptic fit or does the body go limp as a wet sock ?

30.06, palm pistol, exploding mic, exploding battery ...

how about none of the above ? how about two planes flew into steel and concrete reinforced buildings like a hot knife thru butter.

get the picture yet ?

and if you haven't got the picture yet, ask yourself why Tucker, Brand, Owens, and all the other "good guys" all wear a thin red string around their wrists.
 
Maybe this is just a coincidence but that's a bit strange. But the 10 September date relating to the movie is wrong.. However it looks like a glimpse into the future?

Furthermore the assassination scene of Charles Kirkland where he is hit in the neck in the movie was filmed in Trump's Taj Mahal building in Atlantic city in the late 1990s. And the movie name itself ("Snake Eyes") is kind of symbolic of who is ultimately in charge.

If 4D STS can travel back and forth in time, as the C's have said, then inspiration from 4D STS for "prophetic" works of art in the past could be a part of it. Though for what purpose?
 
At 37:50 she mentions that her impression is that many people she has met since the Kirk assassination have responding by "realizing they need to go back to church".

Maybe an intended outcome? Or a mistake by those who carried out the assassination? Suppose it depends.
Intended outcome or not, what if some show up and discover emptiness or conflict and wish to find out more, which then drives a seeking for answers?

Incidentally, the word church is related with the surname of Charlie Kirk. In What is the origin of the last name Kirk? there is:
The last name Kirk has its origin in Scotland and Northern England. Derived from the Old Norse word "kirkja," meaning "church," it was initially used as a locational surname for someone who lived near or worked in a church or a churchyard. The name gradually evolved over time and became a hereditary surname passed down through generations, eventually spreading beyond its initial geographic origins. Today, Kirk is a relatively common surname found among English-speaking populations worldwide.
If Kirk is from Church, what about church? The Wiktionary has:
From Middle English chirche, from Old English ċiriċe (“church”), from Proto-West Germanic *kirikā, an early borrowing of Ancient Greek κυριακόν (kuriakón), neuter form of κυριακός (kuriakós, “belonging to the lord”), from κύριος (kúrios, “ruler, lord”), from Proto-Indo-European *ḱewh₁- (“to swell, spread out, be strong, prevail”). Doublet of kirk.
And under kirk:
Alternative forms
  • kyrk (obsolete)
Etymology
Inherited from Northern Middle English kyrke, from either Old Norse kirkja or Old English ċiriċe. Doublet of church.
It almost is as if this goes around in circles, since the etymology for the Danish word kirke, also found in Norwegian, is being explained as, when translated:
via Old English from Greek kyriakon 'who belongs to the Lord', from Greek kyrios 'lord'
Etymology online has:
Middle English chirche, from Old English cirice, circe "place of assemblage set aside for Christian worship; the body of Christian believers, Christians collectively; ecclesiastical authority or power," from Proto-Germanic *kirika (source also of Old Saxon kirika, Old Norse kirkja, Old Frisian zerke, Middle Dutch kerke, Dutch kerk, Old High German kirihha, German Kirche).
Add to these: Icelandic kirkjan, and Swedish, kyrka; The entry continues:
This is probably [see extensive note in OED] borrowed via an unrecorded Gothic word from Greek kyriakē (oikia), kyriakon doma "the Lord's (house)," from kyrios "ruler, lord" (from PIE root *keue- "to swell," also forming words for "strong, powerful").

Greek kyriakon (adj.) "of the Lord" had been used in reference to houses of Christian worship since c. 300, especially in the East, though it was less common in this sense than ekklesia or basilikē. An example of the direct Greek-to-Germanic transmission of many Christian words, via the Goths; probably it was used by West Germanic people in their pre-Christian period.

The word also was picked up by the Slavic tongues, probably via Germanic (Old Church Slavonic criky, Russian cerkov). Finnish kirkko, Estonian kirrik are from Scandinavian. Romance and Celtic languages use variants of Latin ecclesia (such as French église, 11c.).

The modern form in English is attested from c. 1200, established by 16c. For vowel evolution, compare bury. After the Reformation, church was used for any particular Christian denomination agreeing on doctrine and forms of worship.

[...]
 
here's an observation that no one has made (to the best of my knowledge): watch CK's hands and arms when he's supposedly hit - looks, like he's just been zapped with a 50 kV taser, he seizes and falls over.
That's decorticate posturing, caused by extreme brain trauma from the bullet entering his brain. Could it be from something else? Sure, but many have said that the way his arms and hands moved right after being shot is exactly what decorticate posturing looks like.
 
On the guy who filmed the figure on the Losee building and who saw him run into place: He was approximately 475 feet away when he filmed his video. I don't think he would have been able to see clearly what the guy was wearing from that distance.
When you see anything at a distance the human visual system starts to lose small details. The greater the distance the coarser the detail you lose,” Loftus said. “At 10 feet you might not be able to see individual eyelashes on a person’s face. At 200 feet you would not even be able to see a person’s eyes. At 500 feet you could see the person’s head but just as one big blur. There is equivalence between size and blurriness. By making something smaller you lose the fine detail.” ... identifying a person from 450 feet was the equivalent of sitting in the centerfield bleachers at New York’s Yankee Stadium and being able to recognize someone in the box seats behind home plate.
Here's an example - photos on the right are probably too blurry when compared to actual vision, but it gives an idea. Grok says a person at 475 feet has the angular size of about half the width of your index finger at arm's length (smaller than a centimeter). Basically, I think it's more likely that he saw the guy wearing dark clothes, sunglasses, a backpack, a dark baseball cap - and at that distance mistook the clothes for tactical gear.

If there were a second person on the roof with him, though, he could have gotten off the roof the same way Robinson got on. But if he was wearing tactical gear, he would have stood out. Also, it would have been risky, given the possibility of someone capturing the both of them up there at the same time on camera.
 
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