Civil War in Ukraine: Western Empire vs Russia

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I am working on the following idea while the weather in this part of the world is nice: Why not record a CrossTalk episode in Crimea? This will really piss off the US State Department, the American embassy in Moscow and Washington’s bitch in Ukraine Poroshenko. What do you think?
 
Translated from Politikus.ru by Alena Scarecrow with a foreword by the Saker:
http://thesaker.is/russia-is-constructing-a-military-base-in-syria/
 
SeekinTruth said:
Translated from Politikus.ru by Alena Scarecrow with a foreword by the Saker:
http://thesaker.is/russia-is-constructing-a-military-base-in-syria/

That is quite a good article that tries to separate facts from fiction about Russia's involvement in Syria. The fact is also that Syria as a sovereign state can legally ask for military help from outside, whereas outside countries can not legally intervene in a sovereign states affairs, though the empire doesn't think it needs to abide by international laws. National interst suffice for the empire and a nice sounding pretext can always be found.
 
Aeneas said:
SeekinTruth said:
Translated from Politikus.ru by Alena Scarecrow with a foreword by the Saker:
http://thesaker.is/russia-is-constructing-a-military-base-in-syria/

That is quite a good article that tries to separate facts from fiction about Russia's involvement in Syria. The fact is also that Syria as a sovereign state can legally ask for military help from outside, whereas outside countries can not legally intervene in a sovereign states affairs, though the empire doesn't think it needs to abide by international laws. National interst suffice for the empire and a nice sounding pretext can always be found.

Exactly. Whatever Russia does, it's to help Syria and with the government's agreement and cooperation.
 
Vladimir Ruban, a retired UAF general, who has been working on POW exchanges, but has been on the side of Kiev, although very careful, has come with a statement that has created some stir in UA:
Ukrainian General Ruban shocked Ukrainians by his statement in support of DPR: "In Donbass they fulfill the dream of Maidan and Ukraine is jealous!"
Original was http://rusvesna.su/news/1442778551 Title posted and translated by Angelina Siard.
I don't know if that is true, but it is an interesting way of putting it, which many Ukrianians will understand quite nicely, as there are some small folk stories about what happens when people are jelous of others.
 
Found some screen shots or photos on FB (https://www.facebook.com/angelina.siard/posts/909467559132898) which gives an idea of how the Minsk 2 is coming along. The pictures appear small, but if you double click, they become more readable. It appears that the aiming at schools etc is either systematic, or the UAF and its western backed instructors do not know how to avoid them.
 

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http://thesaker.is/interesting-but-ambiguous-video/

Translated from German by Dagmar Henn:
http://thesaker.is/russia-and-the-usa-coordinate-their-joint-course-against-terror/
 
thorbiorn said:
Found some screen shots or photos on FB (https://www.facebook.com/angelina.siard/posts/909467559132898) which gives an idea of how the Minsk 2 is coming along. The pictures appear small, but if you double click, they become more readable. It appears that the aiming at schools etc is either systematic, or the UAF and its western backed instructors do not know how to avoid them.
It is interesting how we are meant to believe that the hitting of hospitals, schools and infrastructure is either a tragic honest error, a coincidence or the most favoured Western explanation: the DPR/LPR bombing itself so as to blame Ukraine. The ignorance and silence about these war crimes from Western leaders and media is a sign of the times.

On another matter, I read this article that gives a geopolitical perspective of the threat facing Russia from the Western empire and why Syria is Russia's Stalingrad.

It can be found here: http://fortruss.blogspot.fr/2015/09/why-syria-is-russias-stalingrad.html

Parmen Posokhov

Trymava

Translated by Kristina Rus


Russia has entered the new “1942” Ukraine – is just a distracting maneuver


At the heart of any history is geography. The truism that most people often cannot understand because they simply don't know geography. When I listen to many politicians, political scientists, especially from the liberal camp, I inevitably begin to question their geography knowledge at least within the school course. When they start to swing a bugbear of democracy, trying to violently spread it everywhere, I want to get a closer look at the map of the Earth before uttering democratic mantras.

One glance is enough to see that the so-called democracy primarily prevails in the territories, geographically protected from possible adversary. United States of America is geographically located on protected by oceans continent, they have no enemies there. The 70 million Indians who lived there before the coming of the Anglo-Saxon colonists, were successfully destroyed by these same colonists, driving the few survivors to reservations. Got fenced off from the small and geographically cropped Mexico to stop the impoverished population from seeping in. And that's it. There are no enemies. Can start a new life with a clean slate, with no interference. And they created it. The founding fathers of the USA were not as brilliant for giving birth to the principles laid down in the constitution of the most successful country, as the lucky ones whom no one challenged to implement these principles known since antiquity. Let us envy them.
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Map 1. The spread of "democracy" in the world. Circled in blue.


If we look at Europe, it in essence is merely a huge peninsula of Eurasia, from the East bounded by Russia, which can be called a historical enemy only with a very big stretch. And then only to the extent that Europe, due to various kinds of selfish aspirations, will want to. What a good ground for democratic experiments. And once the main European players – Germany, France and England - were reconciled after the WWII, the kingdom of democracy reigned here.
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Map 2. The spread of "democracy" in Europe. The border is circled in blue.

And that's it! All other areas of the founding continent called Eurasia have no democracy in the American or European understanding and cannot have. Different cultures, different civilizations, their permanent collisions and interpenetration make such democracy impossible! And any educated person must understand it! But if he starts to repeat the song about democracy in Ukraine, a territory which has historically been a thoroughfare of the great migration of peoples, or in Syria, this center of the global “ethno-religious soup”, then you should know that before you is a rotten bastard executing an order for a very specific interest.

There can be no universal fundamental principles of state and social structure. The clash of civilizations is not a whim from Zhirinovsky, but an objective reality, from which there is no escape. And behind a demand to remove the main Syrian “dictator-villain” Assad, as earlier the Ukrainian monster-usurper, the offender of 'students' Yanukovych, and then to establish through “free and fair” elections democracy in a thoroughfare and “ethno-religious pot”, there is a quite specific tangible malicious calculation, cynically and despicably abusing this clash of civilizations.

I don't know exactly what will Vladimir Putin say in his speech at the session of the UN General Assembly, but I doubt he will dare to speak the truth. There are tactical considerations. There is a big geopolitical game, a struggle for world domination and global resources, and at the UN the major players will push their interests with all possible and impossible means under the guise of big words. The main intrigue is whether Europe has woken up, or will again follow in the footsteps of American politics.

A few years ago the Secretary of State Madeleine Albright rushed to say that Russia unfairly disposes of one-third of the world's resources. She was echoed that yes, it is true, and, unfortunately, the second global prize called Siberia went to Russia. Without going into details about the first prize, and who got it, I will note what followed. Our homegrown liberal media began to consistently and persistently hammer into the heads of the Russian masses that the main contender for the riches of Siberia is China, which will try to get a hold of them in a weakened Russia. Including through quiet migration expansion of part of its huge population, which is actually not happening for some reason. The West was thus exhibited as a friend and a role model, and somehow forgetting to mention how many times Russia was invaded by Europe in order to destroy Russia as a state. Hitler, Napoleon, the Swedes, the Poles, etc. Some historians say the number nine. I will not go into details, so as not to distract from the main thing – from the territory of China there have been NO invasions, except for the Damansky border incident. That's it!

History must be known, studied and conclusions drawn. And historical memory must be periodically refreshed.

And now back to geography in the light of today's geopolitical balance. There is a world wanna-be hegemon - USA, aspiring to world domination. It has global leadership, but no domination. For domination it needs to control the world's resources. It can never control the human resources of China, but China without mineral resources is not a competitor. And the world's mineral resources are controlled by the USA (think about the prize number one) and Russia (think about the prize number two). Controlling the prize number two, the US gets the coveted world domination. Obvious and clear conclusion. Therefore, the main goal of the United States – is the dismemberment of Russia, the separation of Siberia and the establishment over it of its control in the form of an informal protectorate, as now in Ukraine. It is important to understand that we are talking about dismemberment, and not about the destruction of Russia. Russia should stay in truncated borders to the Urals, as a natural buffer of Europe from the Muslim and Chinese civilizations. European democracy needs to feel comfortable on the European peninsula. Europe needs a truncated Russia with a strong army capable to successfully repel the attacks of the Islamists and take on all the hardships of a frontier state.

The idea of elimination of Russia was not born yesterday. The first stage - the collapse of the USSR was carried out successfully by planting the traitors in the country's leadership. This, and not the economic difficulties, caused the collapse of the USSR. Today the outright traitors are not visible at the top leadership. And the foreign policy shows that the Russian leadership is well aware and acts accordingly, often ahead of the curve. But all that happened yesterday, as the civil war in Iraq and Syria, the emergence of ISIS, the Ukrainian crisis - were only a prelude. The real fight starts now: follow the speech of the Russian President at the UN General Assembly.

Second, after the collapse of the USSR, the plan for the dismemberment of historical Russia is already so obvious that it can be confidently described. It seems that the Russian leadership did not want to believe it to the end, but when the realization came its actions were lightning fast and quite effective. If you look at the ethno-confessional map, it becomes clear that the main attack against Russia will target the underbelly, from the South through Central Asia, through the former Central Asian republics by ISIS opening a new front against them. The difficult economic situation in these countries, unemployment and poverty, will bring into the ranks of ISIS hundreds of thousands of angry local men who are able in a short time to sweep away the current regimes of Turkmenbashi-2, Karimov and Rakhmonov, then move the expansion to the relatively safe territory of Kazakhstan, which is beginning to rock in connection with falling prices for raw materials. It is not a guarantee that the situation will be kept under control. Russia is in principle capable of it, but by exceptional exertion of all its resources. In case of failure ISIS will already loom close to Omsk, Tatarstan and Bashkiria will rise up, and the coveted goal of Americans to cut the territory of Russia is very close....

For its implementation they need to do two things. The first is to send the main forces of the Islamic state to Central Asia, and second, to divert the military forces of Russia to the second front, so there will not be enough for the main, Central Asian front. The subsidiary will be obviously the Caucasian direction, where the situation is now under control, but there is no doubt that they will try again. They will fight Russia with the hands of ISIS. And not only with Russia. Ilham Aliyev has understood everything. He is the first on the path of ISIS. Azerbaijan has already started the process of breaking up with the West. This is very important. The Azerbaijani leader was smart enough not to unleash a second Karabakh war, to which he was persistently pushed. Very soon he will have bigger problems then Karabakh. Shiite Azerbaijan will be just swept away by the pseudo-Sunni ISIS.
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Map 3. The spread of Islam and the possible ISIS offensive

And now about the second front against Russia, which was supposed to be the first. This is Ukraine. The events in Ukraine, Syria and Iraq were almost simultaneous, and provoked by one and the same power – United States of America. According to now completely obvious plan, Russia was supposed to get bogged down in the war with Ukraine, fall under global sanctions and resource depletion on the eve of a decisive blow of ISIS through Central Asia. It didn't happen. And today we can only stand to applaud the Russian leadership, masterfully responding to the global provocation of the USA in Ukraine. Sanctions against Russia have not, so far at least, took on a global nature, and Russia did not get bogged down in the war in Ukraine, got Crimea back without bloodshed, and created a buffer DPR and LPR with armies comparable to Ukrainian. Tactical successes are exemplary. Obviously, there will be no flushing of DPR and LPR. In the unrecognized form they will “hold down the front” against the Banderites as much as needed, untying Russia's hands in the Middle East, where the major strategic objective is the destruction of ISIS. With all due respect to the legendary Russian Che Guevara – Igor Strelkov, I must admit that he failed to calculate the game until the end, and his actions and calls for the spread of Russian Spring to the entire territory of Ukraine were premature and even harmful. The time has not come yet.

And now about Syria. Syria is today's Stalingrad. It can not be surrendered and it will not be. The stakes do not allow it. As the surrender of Stalingrad in the 1942 meant geostrategic catastrophe, the surrender of Assad, with the subsequent collapse in the Syrian army and the state will precede an unallowable geopolitical catastrophe in Central Asia. All the words of Americans about the coalition and the fight against ISIS are a lie and hypocrisy. They will not seriously fight ISIS. And they don't want Russia in any form in the anti-ISIS coalition. The decision about the transfer to Syria of Russian arms and military advisers only confuses their plans. How the U.S. will try to push Russia out of Syria, we will learn from the discussions at the UN General Assembly. The pressure will be insane, but we will not budge.

In time the Americans will still have to answer how ISIS got a hold of billions of dollars, the oil fields and weapons.
The primary objective of ISIS is to overthrow Assad and destroy Syria. The Americans plan to simulate a war with ISIS for years, as already stated at the official level. In order not to interfere with its actions in Central Asia. Giving the whole of Syria into the hands of ISIS. The time will show how the events will develop in Syria. Having slept through a global geopolitical provocation of Americans in the Middle East and Ukraine, the Russian leadership largely nullified America's success with effective tactical successes . But the overall situation remains extremely difficult. It is necessary to understand without illusions. Our country is going through its 1942.
 
Interesting article, Aeneas. Yes, I've been reading around and the real front has definitely moved to Syria. Many things are too early to call, but hopefully Russia, China, SCO, CSTO will be able to handle the multi-pronged attacks at their borders. The military cooperation/integration of Russia and China is capable of rebuffing the attacks on them from all sides, but it is a VERY dangerous situation all around. The Russians and Chinese are extremely good at strategic thinking and finding the least destructive ways of fending off these aggressions, but the Empire is desperate and there are too many crazies in its midst. So far, the Russian and Chinese team has been able to foresee what the Empire is up to and take steps to foil their plans. If they remain one step ahead, as they have, the Empire's demise will just speed up. Otherwise the stakes for humanity are so high that all bets can be off. If we didn't have Putin and his team, and Xi and his team, we'd already be in far worse situations globally (I know, it's hard to imagine, but it can always be far worse). We'll have to wait and see what the Russian-Chinese duo have up their sleeves in the coming days and weeks....
 
The attached photo reads "Crimea shall be Ukrainian OR UNINHABITED". Isn't that similar to the policy the US and allies have been carying out in a number of countries? Photo found on https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=909440425802278&set=a.581950091884648.1073741825.100002089871905&type=1
 

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Ukraine is busy before Putin goes to New York.
Transnistria gets a knock on the door:
http://fortruss.blogspot.dk/2015/09/odessa-right-sector-azov-battalion-to.html
Odessa Right Sector, Azov Battalion to Blockade Transnistria
And then there is a food blocade of Crimea according to this South Front video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-v7lUt8nF0&feature=youtu.be see also
http://fortruss.blogspot.dk/2015/09/kherson-residents-oppose-blockade-of.html
And somehow NATO GS Jens Stoltenberg visits Kiev:
http://m.sputniknews.com/europe/20150922/1027328778.html
DPR Hopes Contact Group Talks Remain Unaffected by NATO Chief Visit to Kiev


Last year there were some videos about the life of children, here is another which I found on https://www.facebook.com/angelina.siard/posts/909648689114785
By Артём Гришанов - Игрушки / Toys for Poroshenko / War in Ukraine (English subtitles)
 
Knowing the record of John McCain, this is interesting in relation to Transnistria
http://tvzvezda.ru/news/vstrane_i_mire/content/201509231353-ma0e.htm said:
U.S. Senator John McCain, known for his ardent dislike of Russia, arrived in Odessa. This was reported in Twitter Ambassador extraordinary and Plenipotentiary of the USA in Ukraine Jeffrey Payette.

"Welcome to Odessa again to Ukraine, Senator John McCain!" – stated in the message of an American diplomat.

It is worth noting that his sudden visit to Odessa McCain was not announced. About the details and purpose of visit of U.S. policy on Ukraine is not reported.
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Photo: Danil Shamkin/TASS
Translated with Yandex

Transnistria is a self-proclaimed independent part of the former Sovjet republic Moldova. In Moldova they have decided to make a museum for Sovjet occupation.
Moscow outraged over Moldova's initiative to set up "war museum of Soviet occupation"
September 23, 13:57 UTC+3
"The fact that Moldova’s authorities carry out such events the year celebrating the 70th anniversary of Victory of the Soviet people over fascism is of special cynicism," the statement said. [...]
Who finances it we don't know, but it seems that a "fence" is being buildt around Western Europe, see also the article from March http://tass.ru/en/world/782961
 
thorbiorn said:
Transnistria is a self-proclaimed independent part of the former Sovjet republic Moldova. In Moldova they have decided to make a museum for Sovjet occupation.
Moscow outraged over Moldova's initiative to set up "war museum of Soviet occupation"
September 23, 13:57 UTC+3
"The fact that Moldova’s authorities carry out such events the year celebrating the 70th anniversary of Victory of the Soviet people over fascism is of special cynicism," the statement said. [...]
Who finances it we don't know, but it seems that a "fence" is being buildt around Western Europe, see also the article from March http://tass.ru/en/world/782961

Yes, a "fence" is being built and the question can well be asked whether it is to keep the people inside safe from outsiders or whether it is to stop them from seeing what is outside the "fence" and rebel.

It is a civilisational clash and the empire has to make sure that the subjects of the empire don't learn the true nature of the empire by seeing and comparing with an alternative. For that an "educational fence" has to be built initially, but ultimately the empire will not be happy until there is no choice left. Hence the need to destroy any country who present another way of living which includes a more equal sharing of the wealth.

Perhaps some forum members with access to the news from Moldova can find out who finances such a museum. Perhaps a NGO or a philantropic globalist?
 
Aeneas said:
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Yes, a "fence" is being built and the question can well be asked whether it is to keep the people inside safe from outsiders or whether it is to stop them from seeing what is outside the "fence" and rebel.
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And the US Government is going to put new weapons up in Germany. http://www.globalresearch.ca/u-s-will-station-new-nuclear-weapons-in-germany-against-russia/5477506 That the EU area is basically occupied territory is becoming more obvious. If the Ukraine which is not a member of NATO or a part of EU is being run by the US Government to such an extend as has been shown in so many incidents, it is clear that the amount of space left for independent choices in the EU area are limited.
 
SeekinTruth said:
Interesting article, Aeneas. Yes, I've been reading around and the real front has definitely moved to Syria. Many things are too early to call, but hopefully Russia, China, SCO, CSTO will be able to handle the multi-pronged attacks at their borders. The military cooperation/integration of Russia and China is capable of rebuffing the attacks on them from all sides, but it is a VERY dangerous situation all around. The Russians and Chinese are extremely good at strategic thinking and finding the least destructive ways of fending off these aggressions, but the Empire is desperate and there are too many crazies in its midst. So far, the Russian and Chinese team has been able to foresee what the Empire is up to and take steps to foil their plans. If they remain one step ahead, as they have, the Empire's demise will just speed up. Otherwise the stakes for humanity are so high that all bets can be off. If we didn't have Putin and his team, and Xi and his team, we'd already be in far worse situations globally (I know, it's hard to imagine, but it can always be far worse). We'll have to wait and see what the Russian-Chinese duo have up their sleeves in the coming days and weeks....

Thanks Aeneas as well for the article; I have similar views to ST - and indeed waiting to see what will transpire in the coming weeks/months - starting with the UN General assembly...
 
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