South-East Ukraine: Crisis Diary (Unique Documentary Shot by Ordinary People)
Civil War in Ukraine: Western Empire vs Russia
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Lumiere_du_Code
Jedi Council Member
here is how "peaceful demonstrators" saving people. is "Mykola a centurion":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NH30EO2d-5M
and he before: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H43puWJAIcY
among the cops he reported in the Ukrainian language (namely Carpathian dialect) that he allegedly shot in the leg, guy behund his back say to cop "make a corridor that we attacked pro-Russian activists," they put cops conditions, how to act, says about the tactics of radical militants, how they will attack. He calls 5:30 pm
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also in the Ukrainian media and social networks have launched another provocative fake, where three Russian passports, they gave them for the victims in Odessa, although that picture with passports made on March 16 in the Crimea, then there were people who were detained by border guards of Ukraine
attach a photo (sorry, could not find better quality), which are radical militants, among them a police officer. inscription on the photo: "provocateurs - briefing with the cop"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NH30EO2d-5M
and he before: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H43puWJAIcY
among the cops he reported in the Ukrainian language (namely Carpathian dialect) that he allegedly shot in the leg, guy behund his back say to cop "make a corridor that we attacked pro-Russian activists," they put cops conditions, how to act, says about the tactics of radical militants, how they will attack. He calls 5:30 pm
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also in the Ukrainian media and social networks have launched another provocative fake, where three Russian passports, they gave them for the victims in Odessa, although that picture with passports made on March 16 in the Crimea, then there were people who were detained by border guards of Ukraine
attach a photo (sorry, could not find better quality), which are radical militants, among them a police officer. inscription on the photo: "provocateurs - briefing with the cop"
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Lumiere_du_Code
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Pashalis said:
Thank you Pashalis for the video ,watching the video it made me so angry on all these bastards from Kiev(the current fascist government),what i noticed watching this video was that the fascists who acted violently beating their own brothers and sisters most of them were youths,young stupid,steeple, i will speculate on this but i think some of them were payed for doing this job but most of them are just infected by this pathological/psychopathic virus which derives from the current psychopathic government in Kiev and act like berserk attacking anyone who disagree with them.NO it's not right what is happening rightnow with the people in Ukraine, i hope that they will continue resisting and fighting for their rights for their country and maybe with some help from Russia they would gain back their country.
Lumiere_du_Code said:
Thanks, Lumiere_du_Code,
I found this episode analyzed by Russia Today here: http://rt.com/news/156664-odessa-fire-radicals-shoot/. I posted it in the Odessa Tragedy thread too. This terrible crime must be thoroughly investigated, but who will do this except for a bunch of journalists? Kiev authorities blame the victims (they say the activists set fire on themselves - unbelievable BS).
Here is also another "news of the day": the article in the German mewspaper Bild.De about dozens of FBI, CIA agents in Kiev 'assisting Ukraine security':
In English: http://rt.com/news/156692-ukraine-cia-fbi-agents/.
In German: http://www.bild.de/politik/ausland/nachrichtendienste-usa/dutzende-agenten-von-cia-und-fbi-beraten-kiew-35807724.bild.html.
angelburst29
The Living Force
I understand this as "a Petition to the UN Security Council" being circulated for signatures to grant Russia, a Mandate to intervenue with
Russian peacekeepers in the East and South, to ensure protection for the people, so a scheduled Democratic Referendum for May 11 can take place.
Russia in observance of the International Law will only be able to act if the UN Security Council will give it the Mandate.
_https://secure.avaaz.org/ru/petition/Sovet_Bezopasnosti_OON_Vvesti_mirotvorcheskie_voyska_Rossii_na_YugoVostok_Ukrainy/?ahfIuhb
Putin should send Troops into Ukraine
_http://presstv.com/detail/2014/05/04/361270/putin-should-send-troops-into-ukraine/
Russian President Putin has already received authorization from his parliament in March to send in troops to protect the millions of ethnic Russians in Ukraine. He has moral and legal right on his side. The only "impediment" is Western propaganda claims - claims that have been discredited - and threats of sanctions and military response from NATO.
But Putin should not be blackmailed by baseless lies when peoples' lives are being threatened by a Western-backed fascist cabal and their murderous paramilitaries. Besides, more and more people around the world, including the US and European public, can see through the sordid tissue of lies that the Western governments and their pathetic news media have been peddling against Russia over the Ukraine crisis.
The present situation resembles the previous covert US-led operation in South Ossetia in 2008 when NATO-backed Georgian troops tried to destabilize that country, a Russian ally. Russia acted decisively then, sent in its troops and routed the NATO plot. And Washington backed down.
Odessa Massacre Pushes Ukraine to the Edge
_http://journal-neo.org/2014/05/03/odessa-massacre-pushes-ukraine-to-the-edge/
Odessa, north of pro-Russian Crimea, and far west of where clashes are now taking place in eastern Ukraine, has also been a point of contention between Kiev and Ukrainians who refuse to recognize the unelected regime’s authority.
Right Sector, a Neo-Nazi militant group who spearheaded the so-called “Euromaidan” protests, has been visibly operating in Odessa in recent weeks. It’s primary role has been to attack and intimidate political opponents planning to run in upcoming elections. It was therefore already present an well established in Odessa ahead of the attack on the Trade Unions House resulting in dozens of deaths in a single day, and as part of a wider campaign to put down multiplying unrest erupting across the country.
Right Sector can be identified by its members openly wearing Nazi insignia, as well as carrying crimson and black banners. Mobs supporting the Svoboda party are also present among recent clashes, wearing yellow armbands with the Nazi wolfangel symbol upon them.
The United States had used the “responsibility to protect” doctrine as cover for regime change in Libya, and attempted regime change in Syria. All the while it was fabricating atrocities to sway public opinion, it was in reality fueling sectarian extremists who were in reality carrying out the crimes against humanity the West was accusing Libya and Syria of perpetrating in fiction. This formula has been spun around in Ukraine.
Now the West is expending resources to cover up atrocities to prevent the “responsibility to protect” from being invoked against them. The massacre in Odessa would have been marked as a turning point by the West for military intervention had it not been their own proxies who carried it out. Instead, the US has claimed, according to the BBC, that ongoing violence carried out by the regime in Kiev is “proportionate and reasonable.”
With the West not only covering up the atrocities being carried out by the regime in Kiev, but in fact aiding and abetting them, the violence will only escalate further. Beyond Odessa, helicopter gunships, armored columns, and special forces have been sent by Kiev into eastern Ukraine and are attempting to overrun and occupy towns and cities that refuse to recognize the unelected regime. This includes the city of Slavyansk where deaths have been reported on both sides and military aircraft have been shot down.
Ukraine is being pushed to the edge of a much larger and destructive conflict that if started, may be difficult to stop.
Malachi Martin warned that Russia and Kiev are involved in the final culmination of the Fatima prophecies!
_http://beforeitsnews.com/prophecy/2014/05/fatima-unfolding-now-malachi-martin-warned-that-russia-and-kiev-are-involved-in-the-final-culmination-of-the-fatima-prophecies-2460902.html
Russian peacekeepers in the East and South, to ensure protection for the people, so a scheduled Democratic Referendum for May 11 can take place.
Russia in observance of the International Law will only be able to act if the UN Security Council will give it the Mandate.
_https://secure.avaaz.org/ru/petition/Sovet_Bezopasnosti_OON_Vvesti_mirotvorcheskie_voyska_Rossii_na_YugoVostok_Ukrainy/?ahfIuhb
Putin should send Troops into Ukraine
_http://presstv.com/detail/2014/05/04/361270/putin-should-send-troops-into-ukraine/
Russian President Putin has already received authorization from his parliament in March to send in troops to protect the millions of ethnic Russians in Ukraine. He has moral and legal right on his side. The only "impediment" is Western propaganda claims - claims that have been discredited - and threats of sanctions and military response from NATO.
But Putin should not be blackmailed by baseless lies when peoples' lives are being threatened by a Western-backed fascist cabal and their murderous paramilitaries. Besides, more and more people around the world, including the US and European public, can see through the sordid tissue of lies that the Western governments and their pathetic news media have been peddling against Russia over the Ukraine crisis.
The present situation resembles the previous covert US-led operation in South Ossetia in 2008 when NATO-backed Georgian troops tried to destabilize that country, a Russian ally. Russia acted decisively then, sent in its troops and routed the NATO plot. And Washington backed down.
Odessa Massacre Pushes Ukraine to the Edge
_http://journal-neo.org/2014/05/03/odessa-massacre-pushes-ukraine-to-the-edge/
Odessa, north of pro-Russian Crimea, and far west of where clashes are now taking place in eastern Ukraine, has also been a point of contention between Kiev and Ukrainians who refuse to recognize the unelected regime’s authority.
Right Sector, a Neo-Nazi militant group who spearheaded the so-called “Euromaidan” protests, has been visibly operating in Odessa in recent weeks. It’s primary role has been to attack and intimidate political opponents planning to run in upcoming elections. It was therefore already present an well established in Odessa ahead of the attack on the Trade Unions House resulting in dozens of deaths in a single day, and as part of a wider campaign to put down multiplying unrest erupting across the country.
Right Sector can be identified by its members openly wearing Nazi insignia, as well as carrying crimson and black banners. Mobs supporting the Svoboda party are also present among recent clashes, wearing yellow armbands with the Nazi wolfangel symbol upon them.
The United States had used the “responsibility to protect” doctrine as cover for regime change in Libya, and attempted regime change in Syria. All the while it was fabricating atrocities to sway public opinion, it was in reality fueling sectarian extremists who were in reality carrying out the crimes against humanity the West was accusing Libya and Syria of perpetrating in fiction. This formula has been spun around in Ukraine.
Now the West is expending resources to cover up atrocities to prevent the “responsibility to protect” from being invoked against them. The massacre in Odessa would have been marked as a turning point by the West for military intervention had it not been their own proxies who carried it out. Instead, the US has claimed, according to the BBC, that ongoing violence carried out by the regime in Kiev is “proportionate and reasonable.”
With the West not only covering up the atrocities being carried out by the regime in Kiev, but in fact aiding and abetting them, the violence will only escalate further. Beyond Odessa, helicopter gunships, armored columns, and special forces have been sent by Kiev into eastern Ukraine and are attempting to overrun and occupy towns and cities that refuse to recognize the unelected regime. This includes the city of Slavyansk where deaths have been reported on both sides and military aircraft have been shot down.
Ukraine is being pushed to the edge of a much larger and destructive conflict that if started, may be difficult to stop.
Malachi Martin warned that Russia and Kiev are involved in the final culmination of the Fatima prophecies!
_http://beforeitsnews.com/prophecy/2014/05/fatima-unfolding-now-malachi-martin-warned-that-russia-and-kiev-are-involved-in-the-final-culmination-of-the-fatima-prophecies-2460902.html
It's really sickening about the atrocities in Odessa! I've been reading a lot about the situation. Can't wait for the utter destruction of this EVIL global empire. Putin is the man that can make the best outcome in these kinds of horrible situations - let's wait and see what he comes up with.
A surprisingly good article from NYTimes: Behind the Masks in Ukraine, Many Faces of Rebellion: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/04/world/europe/behind-the-masks-in-ukraine-many-faces-of-rebellion.html?_r=3#. It is written by the journalists who eyewitnessed the situation in the West Ukraine.
Maybe it could be posted on SoTT? It is more or less objective, it seems.
Maybe it could be posted on SoTT? It is more or less objective, it seems.
angelburst29 said:
Considering the complicity of the Catholic Church in the evils on this planet, and that the Fatima prophecies/prophets didn't manage to cotton onto that, and considering what Erik von Daniken compiled about such prophecies - the likelihood that they are manipulations of ETs - I don't think I'd give that nonsense much credibility or even any play.
Both Edgar Cayce and Rudolf Steiner saw Russia as the "saviors of the world". They have better track records.
ADDED: Also, considering what we've discovered about the "reality" of "Jesus", I'd say anybody claiming to be the Virgin Mary and delivering messages has got to be seriously questionable.
axj said:
I always thought of Schröder as a rather pathological type (charming, manipulating, lying, careerism etc.), but I must also say that I'm willing to have a fresh look at him thanks to this discussion. Maybe he indeed changed and is about to become a positive force with regard to Russia? Let's see.
I think the least one could say though is that he was a willful tool during his term to implement some major PTB-policies (especially his war-agenda and privatization). Let's not forget what Lumiere_du_C ode rightfully said - Germany is, like most if not all Western countries, a pathocracy. So at the end of the day, it's not even so important who is chancellor or whether he's a psychopath or not - he (or she) will only come to power if s(he) is willing to play the pathocrats' game...
Jefferson said:
As much as I hate seeing people suffer, I think I'm feeling more hope than ever by this turn of events in Ukraine.
Not a fool's hope though. The world is still on course to be engulfed in flames. Just a sense of hope that comes with the kinda global mirroring process Russia's actions have brought about.
Not quite sure how to express it :/
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