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Strategy controlled > Uprising , conspiracy , manipulation > chaos IMF warns Ukraine: " Make war to recover the east or you do not have money "!
Friday, May 2, 2014
IMF warns Ukraine: " Make war to recover the east or you do not have money "!

Dare they! " Fight for the east or no money" just as ZH ! It is very clear : the IMF sending Ukrainians in the war (putting more pressure on them ) against their Russian brothers , or else they will not have the $ 17 billion , while Ukraine is economically strangled !

This is incredible dear readers! ! Because it shows the real motivations of the IMF ignite UKRAINE ! Normal that such information may not be relayed by the mainstreams ...


The IMF approved the $ 17 billion loan tranches to Ukraine last night , Gazprom is paid ; Ukraine gets its cash ; and leaves the door wide open to U.S. and EU for a more " decisive influence " on the divided nation ... Except that there is one thing:

If the Ukrainian government loses effective control in the IS COUNTRY , the $ 17 billion bailout by the IMF needs to be rethought
Which, roughly translated , seems to mean : go to war against the pro- Russian forces (and Russia itself, if Putin sees his countrymen in trouble ) or you will not get your money !

Resistanceauthentique (authentic Resistance)

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[Siberia]

Some more of Obama's shameless lies reported by the Global Research: Washington Responsible for Fascist Massacre in Odessa.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/washington-responsible-for-fascist-massacre-in-odessa/5380413.

At his press conference with Merkel, Obama seized on reports that two Ukrainian helicopters had been struck by ground fire. He cited unconfirmed allegations by the Ukrainian intelligence agency SBU that one was hit by a heat-seeking missile as proof that Russian forces were involved. By the evening, however, even the New York Times admitted that no evidence had been produced of heat-seeking missiles.

Quite a revealing article, IMO, maybe it also could be posted on SoTT in full or in part?

 

[Kisito]

I didn't see if it had already been mentioned ...

Blog Vahine
Published March 6, 2014 by Vahine
http://vahineblog.over-blog.com/2014/03/tremblement-de-terre-en-crimee-haarp.html

The U.S. HAARP they used against the Crimea?
MetaTV.org article : http://metatv.org

An earthquake hits the Crimea ; Russian troops blame the U.S. HAARP saying that the United States " used a weapon of mass destruction against the Russian military .

A major earthquake struck the Crimean peninsula , Ukraine, in the last hour and Russian military sources said it was a deliberate by the United States using the HAARP system in Alaska, attack reprisals troops entered Russia in Ukraine.

The earthquake is confirmed by the Euro -Mediterranean Seismological Centre.

According to sources on the ground , military surveillance of Russia has detected intense bursts of electromagnetic waves long before the earthquake . They say the gusts were specifically timed and repetitive , causing a resonance in the ground, thus triggering the earthquake .

They claim it was a deliberate by the U.S. attack and use a scary language to describe it. A spokesman said bluntly , "The earthquake in Crimea was caused by the use of a weapon of mass destruction by the United States against the Russian army ."


Nick Begich Jr., the son of former U.S. Representative Nick Begich and author of " Angels do not play this HAARP " , stated that HAARP could trigger earthquakes and turn the upper atmosphere into a giant lens so that " the sky seem literally burn."

" The History Channel " did a show on this subject , explaining exactly how HAARP could be used to cause an earthquake .

The United States did not respond to the Russian accusation made ​​in the earthquake Crimea, but the consequences of the Russian accusation scare : If Russia believes and can prove that the project Department of Defense of the United States was used to cause an earthquake , then laRussie may elect to treat the case of a "first strike" with a "weapon of mass destruction." Such determination by Russia could then serve as a basis for her to answer the first attack with their own attack with their own weapon of mass destruction.

An earthquake hits the Crimea ; Russian troops blame the U.S. HAARP saying that the United States " used a weapon of mass destruction against the Russian military . "

A major earthquake struck the Crimean peninsula , Ukraine, in the last hour and Russian military sources said it was a deliberate by the United States using the HAARP system in Alaska, attack reprisals troops entered Russia in Ukraine.

The earthquake is confirmed by the Euro -Mediterranean Seismological Centre.

According to sources on the ground , military surveillance of Russia has detected intense bursts of electromagnetic waves long before the earthquake . They say the gusts were specifically timed and repetitive , causing a resonance in the ground, thus triggering the earthquake .

They claim it was a deliberate by the U.S. attack and use a scary language to describe it. A spokesman said bluntly , "The earthquake in Crimea was caused by the use of a weapon of mass destruction by the United States against the Russian army ."

The United States did not respond to the Russian accusation made ​​in the earthquake Crimea, but the consequences of the Russian accusation scare : If Russia believes and can prove that the project Department of Defense of the United States was used to cause an earthquake , then Russia may choose to consider the case of a "first strike" with a "weapon of mass destruction." Such determination by Russia could then serve as a basis for her to answer the first attack with their own attack with their own weapon of mass destruction.

 

[Laura]

Ark says this site is interesting: http://www.discred.ru/

It's in Russian. Can anybody tell us what is going on there? Anything worth translating?

 

[Axxel]

On a site _http://www.discred.ru
Reference from this article _http://www.discred.ru/news/zonderkomanda_vozmozhno_v_odesskom_dome_profsojuzov_vse_bylo_gorazdo_uzhasnej/2014-05-05-5599
to other article, with an English-speaking variant:
http://ersieesist.livejournal.com/813.html
But there strong nerves are necessary.

 

[Andrian]

Ark says this site is interesting: http://www.discred.ru/

It's in Russian. Can anybody tell us what is going on there? Anything worth translating?

On this site i was redirected to another site _www.smi24.org,
here i found an article(that made me laugh ) where Turchinov says that Russia will pay three times more for all the damage that has done to Ukraine by annexing Crimea to Russia,he said that he will sue Russia in the international court because they had no right to annex Crimea,also he is pretty sure that they will get back Crimea, in his opinion it's just a matter of time because Crimea was always an Ukrainian territory ,also he's pretty sure that the economy of Crimea will be damaged because the international investors would not want to invest there because of Russia.Excuse me please but What an idiot ,he cannot see beyond he's own nose.

Edit : i forgot to add the link to the original source :
_http://24smi.org/news/14820-turchinovv-rossiya-zaplatit-trojnuyu-cenu-za-krym.html

 

[Andrian]

One more interesting article :
_://24smi.org/news/15574-timoshenko-prizvala-napast-v-odesse-na-veteranov-9.html

Here Timoshenko meets some pretty influential politicians from Odessa at a meeting ,where she says i quote " they must attack veterans in Odessa on veteran's day " which is 9 of may.

the video is below in ukraine ,this phrase(by Timoshenko) is heard pretty well :

http://youtu.be/FYlOkjGu6FQ

 

[Lumiere_du_Code]

Malachi Martin warned that Russia and Kiev are involved in the final culmination of the Fatima prophecies!
_http://beforeitsnews.com/prophecy/2014/05/fatima-unfolding-now-malachi-martin-warned-that-russia-and-kiev-are-involved-in-the-final-culmination-of-the-fatima-prophecies-2460902.html

Considering the complicity of the Catholic Church in the evils on this planet, and that the Fatima prophecies/prophets didn't manage to cotton onto that, and considering what Erik von Daniken compiled about such prophecies - the likelihood that they are manipulations of ETs - I don't think I'd give that nonsense much credibility or even any play.

Both Edgar Cayce and Rudolf Steiner saw Russia as the "saviors of the world". They have better track records.

ADDED: Also, considering what we've discovered about the "reality" of "Jesus", I'd say anybody claiming to be the Virgin Mary and delivering messages has got to be seriously questionable.

broadcast today as Filaret - head of the Ukrainian Church, said (I do not remember verbatim, approximately): Our blood is spilled, and I pray that these Russian fascists were destroyed, they will not get our land, the truth is on our side.
namely the church and supported maidan. Only the western regions, the birthplace of Bandera - they did not Orthodoxy, they Catholics, and now they are replacing the ancient Russian Orthodox religion its Catholic, and the Pope supports them.

 

[Lumiere_du_Code]

I assembled a chronology of events May 2-4 in Eastern Ukraine (Donbass), there all these days the army and death squads radicals continue to kill people every day dozens of dead civilians, including a nurse-girl, women, and many more injured. junta uses heavy machine guns and shot with the APCs, shooting with automatic weapons constantly underway. they do not want see who is in front of them, just shoot immediately. and the rest of the country it warms up, demanding a full and speedy cleansing "separatists." civilians on camera saying all reporters who are there, they are not any terrorists that Kiev knows all this, and continues to kill people for the sake of the IMF loan, and there pull together even more punitive forces. Kramatorsk and other settlements bouts in the city center, shelled hospitals do not allow to take away the wounded. and trapped the militias tortured and brutally beaten. and this after residents Sloviansk mercifully released enemy scouts from Europe. if not for the militia, the right sector tore would OSCE observers and blamed citizens in this.
and now the junta going their dead fighters (according to the militias, they are much more than the official said the junta) disfigured beyond recognition, buried in one mass grave and pass it off as atrocities "separatists."

And here I attached the documents about what happened in Odessa, in Russian there, can anyone help me to translate and execute it? there exposing planned massacre junta, which in the preparation of social networks was several days partly informed.
http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,34640.msg489721.html#msg489721

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inscription on the photo: "We are peaceful people"

 

[Keit]

Ark says this site is interesting: http://www.discred.ru/

It's in Russian. Can anybody tell us what is going on there? Anything worth translating?

Interesting indeed! Lots of good material, so hard to choose. But if to take something recent and relevant, that the link Axxel mentioned would be a good choice. It is very disturbing, especially the pictures in the livejournal link. They were also included in the photo file that were just posted by Lumiere_du_C ode Jedi here.

On a site _http://www.discred.ru
Reference from this article _http://www.discred.ru/news/zonderkomanda_vozmozhno_v_odesskom_dome_profsojuzov_vse_bylo_gorazdo_uzhasnej/2014-05-05-5599
to other article, with an English-speaking variant:
_http://ersieesist.livejournal.com/813.html
But there strong nerves are necessary.

As for what this is all about, here is a link to translation of his sort of "about us" page. Sounds interesting to me. He surely encourages people to think. And judging by the text I can understand why Ark liked it. :)

 

[Lumiere_du_Code]

By the way, here I remembered a few weeks ago we found a topic in which the U.S. gov shared Ukraine before Maidan! the Crimea, they discussed what work will spend there, they were detailed photos and plans of one of the Crimean schools, the restoration of which find contractors and considered estimate of about half a million dollars.

two tenders for the Vinnitsa city and Simferopol:
https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&id=ed2e50d07b9dde272683d7042e5cef3a&tab=core&_cview=1

https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&id=bb0d51accbb97bab2f8cb74835164a13&tab=core&_cview=1

 

[Laura]

Ark says this site is interesting: http://www.discred.ru/

It's in Russian. Can anybody tell us what is going on there? Anything worth translating?

Interesting indeed! Lots of good material, so hard to choose. But if to take something recent and relevant, that the link Axxel mentioned would be a good choice. It is very disturbing, especially the pictures in the livejournal link. They were also included in the photo file that were just posted by Lumiere_du_C ode Jedi here.

On a site _http://www.discred.ru
Reference from this article _http://www.discred.ru/news/zonderkomanda_vozmozhno_v_odesskom_dome_profsojuzov_vse_bylo_gorazdo_uzhasnej/2014-05-05-5599
to other article, with an English-speaking variant:
_http://ersieesist.livejournal.com/813.html
But there strong nerves are necessary.

My god, that's just horrible. People need to see this. Can you get a cleaned up English version up with photos?

 

[Keit]

My god, that's just horrible. People need to see this. Can you get a cleaned up English version up with photos?

Sure, will work on it a bit later this evening.

 

[Siberia]

Guys, I have just watched today's Russian talk show "On air", I am absolutely shocked!!!

What happened in Odessa is much much MUCH worse than we thought! I can hardly breathe after watching it. The relatives of those victims came and told the truth which one can not even imagine. And they not only told it, they showed the evidence:

1) There are much more victims than we thought
2) The tragedy was pre-planned
3) They were killing people not only outside the building, but also inside
4) They killed women and children using poisonous gas, bats, guns, strangled them..

And much more horrible details

And what is even worse than that is that this oligarch Kolomoisky sent 5,000 more radicals to Odessa who threaten the relatives that they do not publicly commemorate the victims otherwise they will kill them, this is why not many people were present at the funerals - they are scared.

After watching it, I switched to Russia's major TV channel (Channel 1) and they briefly confirmed all that!

 

[Keit]

After watching it, I switched to Russia's major TV channel (Channel 1) and they briefly confirmed all that!

Right now they are talking about it and show pictures on Russia 24.