Civil War in Ukraine: Western Empire vs Russia

[angelburst29]

In wake of impeachment, U.S. senators to visit Ukraine

Three U.S. senators will meet with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy in Kiev on Friday, seeking to reinforce the importance of his country as a strategic U.S. ally after he found himself at the center of President Donald Trump's acrimonious impeachment trial.

“The U.S.-Ukraine relationship is as important now as ever,” Republican Senators Ron Johnson and John Barrasso and Democratic Senator Chris Murphy said in a statement on Wednesday announcing their trip.

Johnson is chairman, and Barrasso and Murphy are members, of a Senate subcommittee on Europe and Regional Security Cooperation.


Ukraine sticks to positions on Russia but leaves room for "compromises"

The Ukrainian president's new chief of staff on Wednesday stuck to Kiev's existing positions on ending the war against Russian-backed forces in the eastern Donbass region but said there could be compromises during negotiations with Moscow.

 

[youlik]

ВАЖНО: Экс-главаря «Айдара» обвиняют в убийстве 20 граждан России
03.03.2020 - 12:10

По результатам этого задержания и реакции греческих властей на запрос об эстрадиции можно будет делать выводы о том, что реальный взгляд на события в Украине начинает преобладать и настоящие военные преступники рано или поздно получат по заслугам.


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IMPORTANT: the Ex-leader of "Aidar" is accused of killing 20 Russian citizens
03.20-12: 10

Ex-leader of the Ukrainian punitive battalion "Aidar", former Deputy of the Verkhovna Rada Sergey Melnichuk, who was detained on the evening of March 1 on the Bulgarian-Greek border, is accused of killing 20 Russian citizens.

This is stated in the arrest warrant for the Ukrainian "patriot": in 2014, Melnichuk could be involved in the murder of 20 civilians in the Rostov region of the Russian Federation.

In connection with the criminal case initiated on this fact, the Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation declared the ex-combatant "Aidar" on the international wanted list and sent a request to Greek law enforcement authorities to detain him.

The head of the Department of consular service of the Ministry of foreign Affairs of Ukraine Sergey Pogoreltsev said that the detained Melnichuk, whose fate should be decided today, was visited by the Ukrainian Consul in Thessaloniki.

According to Pogoreltsev, the ex-leader of Aidar "was very happy that his native country did not leave him to his fate."

ВАЖНО: Экс-главаря «Айдара» обвиняют в убийстве 20 граждан России

Based on the results of this detention and the reaction of the Greek authorities to the request for extradition, it will be possible to draw conclusions that the real view of events in Ukraine is beginning to prevail and real war criminals will sooner or later get what they deserve.

 

[youlik]

Украинский политик оправдала воссоединение Крыма с Россией (ВИДЕО)
03.03.2020 - 14:45

Положительная новость. Наконец то в украинской медиасфере начинает звучать правда.
Про школу 5 в Севастополе у нас в России писали еще в 2014 году и тогда же было известно, что реконструкцию ее заказывал ВМФ США. И если такие вещи были известны широкому кругу, то какой объем информации был известен руководству через спецслужбы.
Про биолаборатории у нас тоже давным давно известно. Хочется верить, что тем кому по роду работы положено, известно и то, чем они там конкретно занимаются.


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Ukrainian politician justified the reunification of Crimea with Russia (VIDEO)
03.20-14: 45

Former Deputy of the Verkhovna Rada Elena Bondarenko on one of the Ukrainian talk shows justified the reunification of Crimea with Russia, and also spoke about the secret US military bases in Ochakov.

Bondarenko's performance on Ukrainian TV took place at the end of February, but the "Patriotic fuss" about him continues in the Ukrainian media sphere until now.

According to the ex-MP, even if the Russian authorities did not support the decision of Crimea and Sevastopol to reunite with the Russian Federation, it is quite possible that the us armed forces would have occupied Crimea in the same year.

In support of her words, the ex-MP said that in 2013, the US Embassy in Ukraine announced a tender for the reconstruction of school # 5 in Sevastopol. Soon after the reunification of Crimea with Russia, this ad was removed from the site.

"What they were going to do, no one knows, because it is with the annexation of the Crimea that this ad disappears from the site as unnecessary.

I can say one thing here: if the Russian annexation had not occurred, the annexation would have taken place in favor of the US Navy.

And I will say that so far the US state Department has not abandoned its dreams of having a base on the Black sea within Ukraine," Bondarenko said.

According to the politician, the us Navy forces still received a military base in Ukraine, but not in the Crimea, but in Ochakov (Odessa region). What the us military is doing there, no one knows, since even Ukrainian officials are not allowed to enter the "closed military base", Bondarenko said.

"How many of you know about the construction of a closed military base in Ochakov? Nobody. And you know that this military base is being built for the second or third year in a row.

It is being built exclusively by the United States, and access to it is restricted for Ukrainian government officials on their own territory. Cordon for a kilometer, the local population does not have the right to even walk close, " she said.

The ex-Deputy expressed the opinion that not just a military base is being built in Ochakov, but a real "strong point" for an attack.

"Who is going to fight with us? What will the us military do there? What are they doing there now? And why doesn't the government raise this issue?"- asks rhetorical questions of the politician.

Bondarenko also reminded those present in the talk show Studio that since the days of President Viktor Yushchenko, American bacteriological laboratories have been working in Ukraine.

"In Ukraine, 15 closed bacteriological laboratories were built under Yushchenko for the money of the US Department of defense, and they are still working, and they are funded by the Ministry of defense of another country," she added.

Украинский политик оправдала воссоединение Крыма с Россией (ВИДЕО)

Positive news. Finally, the truth begins to sound in the Ukrainian media sphere. We wrote about school 5 in Sevastopol in Russia in 2014 and at the same time it was known that the us Navy ordered its reconstruction. And if such things were known to a wide circle, then how much information was known to the leadership through the security services. We also know about biolaboratories for a long time. I want to believe that those who are supposed to work by their profession know what they are doing there.

 

[youlik]

Суд в Греции отпустил экс-командира украинского батальона "Айдар"
16:51, 3 марта 2020

Ну вот и результат. Приходится с сожалением констатировать, что двойные стандарты по прежнему действуют. Как в свое время сказал Франклин Рузвельт: Сомоса, может быть, и сукин сын, но он наш сукин сын. Вот и Мельничук оказался "их" сукиным сыном.

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The court in Greece released the ex- commander of the Ukrainian battalion " Aidar"

Moscow. March 3. INTERFAX.RU - The court in Greece released from custody the ex-commander of the battalion "Aidar" and former Deputy of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine of the VIII convocation Sergey Melnichuk, who was detained on March 1, said the Deputy head of the Ministry of internal Affairs of Ukraine Anton Gerashchenko.

"An hour ago, according to the decision of the Greek court, Sergey Melnichuk was released from custody and is free to leave the territory of the European Union," Gerashchenko wrote on Facebook on Tuesday.

Melnychuk himself posted a video message on Facebook, in which he said that he was at large, and said that "an attempt to provoke Russia".

Melnychuk was detained by Interpol at the Greek border on Sunday, March 1, he said on Facebook. According to him, this was done at the request of Russia. Melnychuk asked the Ukrainian Embassy to provide him with a lawyer and added that he was in the Department with a pregnant wife and a nine-month-old son.

In Russia, Melnychuk is a defendant in a criminal case over the death of VGTRK journalists Igor Kornelyuk and Anton Voloshin on June 17, 2014 in the Donbass under mortar fire from the Ukrainian armed forces. According to the TFR, as the commander of the Aidar battalion, Melnichuk gave the order and took direct part in the mortar attack on the peaceful territory near the village of Stukalova Balka.

According to the decision of the Basmanny court of Moscow in 2014, Melnichuk was arrested in absentia and put on the wanted list.

Суд в Греции отпустил экс-командира украинского батальона "Айдар"

Well, here's the result. We regret to say that double standards still apply. As Franklin Roosevelt once said : Somoza may be a son of a bitch, but He's our son of a bitch. So Melnichuk turned out to be "their " son of a bitch.

 

[Voyageur]

Ukrainian politician justified the reunification of Crimea with Russia (VIDEO)
03.20-14: 45
"How many of you know about the construction of a closed military base in Ochakov? Nobody. And you know that this military base is being built for the second or third year in a row.

It is being built exclusively by the United States, and access to it is restricted for Ukrainian government officials on their own territory. Cordon for a kilometer, the local population does not have the right to even walk close, " she said.
[...]
"In Ukraine, 15 closed bacteriological laboratories were built under Yushchenko for the money of the US Department of defense, and they are still working, and they are funded by the Ministry of defense of another country," she added.

Odd the last point, and frankly did not know about the Ochakov construction (US Navel Institute Blog - a grain of salt is needed for the below):

Russia has been carefully observing the activities of the U.S and British navies in the Black Sea region. It protested through diplomatic channels that the main thrust of Sea Breeze 2018, a Black Sea exercise with Ukraine, was anti-Russian. And according to the Russian Institute of Strategic Research, it was not a coincidence when after Sea Breeze 2017, the United States revealed plans to build a maritime operations center in Ochakiv, a small city located between Crimea and Odessa at the mouth of the Dnieper River.1

When news first appeared that the United States was going to build the facility for the Ukrainian Black Sea Navy on Ochakiv Naval Base, the Russian reaction was prompt and belligerent.2 Russian politician Vladimir Zhirinovsky publicly stressed, “We’ll drown you there, in the Black Sea! And we will destroy the Kiev government; this is Russian land – Ochakiv.”3

Despite the official response from the commander of Ukrainian naval forces in Ochakiv that the facility would be for the Ukrainian Navy only and for use in the annual Sea Breeze exercise, Russia seemingly felt the situation was getting out of control and was meant to strangle their presence in the Crimean peninsula. Admiral Igor Kasatonov, former commander of the Russian Black Sea Fleet, said the maritime operations center “could be interpreted as an outpost aimed with surveilling Russia’s forces in Crimea” and could pose a threat to Russian security.4

In fact, with Russia’s annexation of Crimea in 2014, the Ukrainian Navy has shrunk tremendously, as many of its vessels were blocked by Russia and left in Crimean bays. The remainder is located mostly in Odessa. Given that the Azov Sea is now under Russian control, the only ports Kiev possesses without any restrictions are Odessa and Yuzhny on the Black Sea coastline, and Nikolayev and Kherson, both riverine ports. None of these ports have well-developed naval facilities. (Odessa has developed port infrastructure but for the merchant fleet.) Thus, Ochakiv has strategic importance for Ukraine and its naval forces.

The importance of Ochakiv Naval Base was highlighted by the November 2018 events in the Sea of Azov, when Russian forces shot at and seized three Ukrainian warships attempting to pass through the Kerch strait, which links the Black Sea and the Sea of Azov.5 With the annexation of Crimea, Russia controls both sides of the strait and thus Ukraine’s access to its own ports. Preventing passage to the Sea of Azov could strangle economic activity in the east of Ukraine. In addition, in August, Russia closed the Black Sea near Odessa and Crimea allegedly for naval drills, which blocked Ukrainian and international shipping traffic in the area. More likely, this was a test of Ukrainian reaction.


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Now it is a question of Russian response. Activities around Crimea are intensifying, increasing chances for direct confrontation. The region’s maritime zone is becoming dangerous in terms of naval confrontation, with a high density of naval powers—Russia, Turkey, Ukraine, Romania, and rotational NATO forces—operating in a narrow space. Either side could be inspired to bolder actions, whether or not the West is ready.

 

[youlik]

Верховная Рада пустила иностранных военных на Украину
05.03.2020 - 2:00

Вот это серьезный пролог к тому, что называют "Хорватским сценарием", так горячо продвигаемым определенными силами в Киеве.

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The Verkhovna Rada allowed foreign military to enter Ukraine
05.03.2020-2: 00

The Verkhovna Rada late in the evening on March 4, one of its last decisions before closing the session, approved the admission of foreign military personnel to the exercises in Ukraine.

The corresponding bill of the President of Ukraine Vladimir Zelensky was supported by deputies by 286 votes "for".

According to the text of the bill, we are talking about the admission of the armed forces of other States to the territory of Ukraine to participate in multinational military exercises. Financing costs associated with the preparation and conduct of multinational exercises with the participation of VSU in the territory of Ukraine and abroad in 2020, in the amount of 63 million 824 thousand 300 hryvnias is planned to be implemented within the appropriations provided by the Law "On state budget of Ukraine for 2020".

Верховная Рада пустила иностранных военных на Украину

This is a serious prologue to what is called the "Croatian scenario", so hotly promoted by certain forces in Kiev.

 

[youlik]

Дикая Украина
«Не жгите хату!» — украинка, заразившая коронавирусом несколько сёл, взмолилась о прощении (ВИДЕО)
29.03.2020 - 15:59


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Wild Ukraine
"Don't burn the hut!"- Ukrainian woman who infected several villages with coronavirus, begged for forgiveness (VIDEO)
29.03.20 - 15: 59

The first woman who got sick with coronavirus in Bukovina, who managed to infect dozens of residents of her own and neighboring villages, turned to her neighbors, asking for forgiveness.

Knowing what her countrymen are capable of, she asked not to burn down her house.

She promised never to go to Italy to work again.

She also said that she had heard that people wanted to burn down her house. And also that they want to deal with her children and grandchildren.

"Don't kill them, if you want to kill me, cut, chop," the woman asks with tears.

She says that the family does not go out and sits on bags with documents. "Every night my children, like hares, do not sleep with fear, as soon as they hear a rustle in the yard," the woman cries.

Elizabeth — zarobitchane, recently returned from Italy. Apparently, that's where she got infected.

Once home, the woman took an active part in the public life of his village of Kolinkivtsi.

She went to meetings under the regional administration on March 9, where residents of three villages fought for the creation of OTG (United territorial communities-a form of grass-roots organization of citizens in rural Ukraine-approx. PB), talked with the head of Kolinkivtsi.

As a result, an active Ukrainian woman infected not only her children and grandchildren: the head of the village Council came down with a high temperature, and now 14 villagers are in the hospital with coronavirus.

As of today, on March 29, 59 cases of coronavirus have been detected in the Chernivtsi region.

Together with Kolinkivtsi quarantined planted three village Toporivtsi, Bochkivtsi and Grozny. Roadblocks were set up in these areas, and all roads and forest paths were blocked with barriers.

https://rusvesna.su/news/1585486757

 

[youlik]

Весьма показательная новость. И хоть дело и происходит совсем не в Украине, случившееся достаточно ярко показывает реальную ситуацию в самой Украине и степень знакомства с ней политического бомонда США. Как же иначе- авторы ведь.

«Мичиган — это новая Украина!»: ужасы эпидемии в США сравнили с «незалежной»
30.03.2020 - 18:37


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Very revealing news. And even though the case is not happening in Ukraine, what happened quite clearly shows the real situation in Ukraine itself and the degree of familiarity with it of the political Beau Monde of the United States. How else - the authors after all.

"Michigan is the new Ukraine!": the horrors of the epidemic in the United States compared to " nezalezhnaya»
30.03.2020 - 18:37

The Senator from Connecticut, describing the plight of Michigan, found an original comparison for a critical situation. To highlight the epidemiological disaster, he compared the city to Ukraine.

Apparently, he and those to whom his messages are addressed in the Network, have heard well about what is happening in"nezalezhnaya".

"Michigan is the new Ukraine!"- this entry appeared on the Senator's page in the social network.

«Мичиган — это новая Украина!»: ужасы эпидемии в США сравнили с «незалежной»

 

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Ukraine's Land Market Bill was adopted yesterday.

On the night of March 31, 2020, the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine (Parliament) adopted the Draft Law No. 2178-10 "On Amendments to Certain Legislative Acts of Ukraine Regarding the Turnover of Agricultural Land" in the second reading.
The relevant decision was supported by 259 MPs. 24 voted against it, 3 abstained and 29 did not vote.
Law comes into force on July 1, 2021.


The bill on the land market was initiated by the Chairman of the Committee on Agrarian and Land Policy Mykola Solskiy and a group of MPs from the deputy faction Sluga Narodu.

Key provisions of the Law

1. The right of ownership to agricultural land may be obtained by:

• citizens of Ukraine;
• legal entities of Ukraine created and registered under the legislation of Ukraine, the participants of which are only citizens of Ukraine and/or state and/or territorial communities;
• state.

Note: The right to purchase land upon the opening of the market is given to Ukrainians, and in two years — since 2024 — to legal entities.


General information on land in Ukraine (click for full resolution)



2. Municipal and state lands are not allowed for sale. State lands will be transferred to communities and they will only be able to rent them out, but not sell them. The same will apply to those lands remaining in the possession of the state.


3. Limit size of land ownership for individuals is up to 100 ha, for legal entities (since 2024) — 10 thou. ha.


Land Guide of Ukraine
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Note: The total area of agricultural land plots owned by a citizen of Ukraine cannot exceed 10 thou. ha. The total area of agricultural land plots owned by a legal entity (except banks) cannot exceed the total area of agricultural land plots, which may be in the ownership of all its participants (members, stockholders), but not more than 10 thou. ha. Herewith, if a citizen owns the right of ownership for a share in the authorized (composite) capital, in the share fund of a legal entity or for only certain shares, units, for the purposes of the present article, it is considered that such a citizen, except for the land plots owned by him on the right of ownership, also owns the right of ownership for the land plots of agricultural purpose with a total area equal to the area of land plots of agricultural purpose in the ownership of a legal entity, a member (member, shareholder) of which he is.


4. Banks may obtain the ownership right to land plots in the order of recourse to them as the subject of a pledge. Such land plots shall be sold by banks at auctions within 2 years from the date of acquiring the ownership right.


5. Legal entities, the founders or ultimate beneficiaries of which are persons who are not citizens of Ukraine, may acquire ownership of agricultural land from the day it is approved by the referendum.



Facts of agricultural land sale moratorium (click for full resolution)



6. Excluded from property rights to land plots (even if the admission of foreigners is approved at a referendum) are the following groups:

• legal entities the participants or beneficiaries of which are foreigners cannot buy the lands of state and municipal property, as well as the lands allocated to unit-holders, and which are located closer than 50 km to the state border of Ukraine (except for the state sea border);
• legal entities the participants or ultimate beneficiaries of which are Russian Federation citizens;
• persons who were or belong to terrorist organizations;
• legal entities the participants or beneficiaries of which are foreign states;
• legal entities the ultimate beneficiary of which cannot be identified;
• legal entities with beneficiaries registered in offshore zones;
• sanctioned natural and legal entities;
• legal entities registered in countries listed as non-cooperating in the fight against the laundering of proceeds of crime.

7. Payments for land plots are made in non-cash form.


8. It will not be allowed to acquire ownership rights under repayable contracts in the absence of documents confirming the sources of origin of funds or other assets involved in the transaction.


Demand and offer upon land market opening in Ukraine (click for full resolution)



9. Purchase and sale of a land plot shall be carried out in compliance with the preferential right. The preferential right to purchase a land plot may be transferred by the subject to another person, on which such subject shall notify the owner of the land plot in writing.


10. Citizens who own the right of permanent use, the right of lifelong inherited possession of land plots of state and municipal property intended for farming, as well as lessees of land plots which acquired the right to lease land by means of reissuing the right of permanent use with respect to the aforesaid land plots until 2010, have the right to buy such land plots into ownership with payment in instalments up to ten years at a price equal to the normative monetary value (NMV). In case of purchase of land plots with instalment payment, the ownership right shall pass to the buyer after the first payment.


Intentions upon land market opening in Ukraine (click for full resolution)



11. Until January 1, 2030, the suggested price of agricultural land plots distributed in localities to owners of land shares (units) cannot be less than their NMV.

 

[angelburst29]

Mikheil Saakashvili ... a maverick politician? Oh, too funny! There are already enough CLOWN's in Politics!

Ex-Georgian president Saakashvili poised for another political comeback in Ukraine

The former president of Georgia, Mikheil Saakashvili, said on Wednesday he had been invited to become deputy prime minister of Ukraine in charge of driving reforms, in what would mark another comeback for the maverick politician.

 

[youlik]

Mikheil Saakashvili ... a maverick politician? Oh, too funny! There are already enough CLOWN's in Politics!

А там со времен Павла Лазаренко ничего другого и быть не может. Тот дурачок возомнил себя фигурой и где он теперь? Напомню- сидит в американской тюрьме. Так вот все остальные Тимошенки-Порошенки-Яценюки-Гройсманы и прочие Шмыгали с Зеленскими очень хорошо знают кто "дергает за ниточки".

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And there since the time of Pavel Lazarenko, nothing else can be. That fool was thinking he's a figure, and where is he now? Let me remind you-he is in an American prison. So all the rest of the Tymoshenko-Poroshenko-Yatsenyuk-Groisman and other Shmygal with Zelensky, knows very well who is "pulling the strings".

 

[thorbiorn]

@youlik, as you often use both Russian and English, when you write posts, and considering the forum is in English, here is something to consider:
If you post from an article, it is in most cases enough to provide a link and then post the translation. If you write yourself, then post the translation, followed by the original in quotes. In other words, reverse the order you have now, and put the original in quotes. Below is an example:

Translation [of post]
And there since the time of Pavel Lazarenko, nothing else can be. That fool was thinking he's a figure, and where is he now? Let me remind you-he is in an American prison. So all the rest of the Tymoshenko-Poroshenko-Yatsenyuk-Groisman and other Shmygal with Zelensky, knows very well who is "pulling the strings".

[Original post]
А там со времен Павла Лазаренко ничего другого и быть не может. Тот дурачок возомнил себя фигурой и где он теперь? Напомню- сидит в американской тюрьме. Так вот все остальные Тимошенки-Порошенки-Яценюки-Гройсманы и прочие Шмыгали с Зеленскими очень хорошо знают кто "дергает за ниточки".

 

[thorbiorn]

This post deals with the the topic of expressing oneself diplomatically and examples of the consequences of not doing so in the present day Ukraine.

I don't know if in this long thread there have been anyone from Ukraine who got themselves into problem for writing something, but now thinking about a couple of these posts from way back in 2014, it brought me to the idea of looking up "how to express oneself diplomatically" which led to a few ideas from:

5 Tips for Polite and Diplomatic Language

If you're too direct when you speak you can come across as aggressive and this might put people off. This is true in business meetings and negotiations, but also in many other day to day situations. Here are 5 ways you can make your English more polite, indirect and diplomatic. Follow these...

www.londonschool.com

27. Essential use of diplomatic language

Essential use of diplomatic language1. The diplomatic communication is a privileged mode of work which is often complex, but which provides liaison in international dialogue between the States. Whi…

odeenishmaeldiplomacy.wordpress.com

In the following article from Stalkerzone, the author gives examples of how control of what is expressed is administered in present day Ukraine. Notice that the people apprehended had more than one problem, and perhaps still other factors played in not even mentioned.

Surrealism During the Plague: How the SBU Fights Traitors and Spies in Ukraine During Coronavirus
April 9, 2020 Stalker Zone

After the new team came to power, i.e. people close to President Zelensky, many expected that the state security system would come to order and that Ukrainians would stop being jailed for fictional crimes. It turned out that these hopes were in vain. And under the new leadership, the practice of “politically motivated jailing” continued.

In February of this year, the head of the SBU, Ivan Bakanov, met with a representative of the US State Department, Under Secretary for Civilian Security, Democracy, and Human Rights, and concurrently Chief Coordinator for Counterterrorism, Nathan Sales.

A lot was said about the high level of cooperation, threats to the civilized world, etc. Bakanov even reported to the State Department about the activities of the SBU: “The main task of our special service is not to catch small fraudsters, but to take care of national security. And our results just confirm the effectiveness of the new approaches.”

Here it becomes interesting what these new approaches are. The old approaches are the work of Poroshenko/Gritsak, under the leadership of which many hundreds of people (and according to a number of human rights organisations – thousands of people) were arrested by the SBU for treason and encroachment on the territorial integrity of Ukraine — for publishing articles in newspapers, posts on social networks, speeches at legal and coordinated rallies, etc. Maybe the “new approaches” should consist of some kind of opposite activity. Maybe the opening of criminal cases against SBU employees who were engaged in kidnapping and torture? Or maybe something is being actively done concerning the arson on the May 2nd in Odessa? There is a lot to do in a country where an armed coup took place 6 years ago, and where no one has been punished for it.

But let’s not try to guess, because everything can be found in the latest public report of the SBU for 2019, exactly the year of Bakanov’s “new approaches”. We look at the section “Military counterintelligence” that interests us: “according to the materials of military counterintelligence, more than a hundred persons were reported as suspicious. 37 persons were convicted of terrorist and sabotage activities, and 31 persons were convicted of treason and espionage. In total, 195 court sentences came into force last year in the opened criminal proceedings based on the materials of the national security protection and counter-terrorism units.” If we do not take into account one Chinese and one ISIS member with an exotic surname, then all spies and terrorists are citizens of Ukraine, allegedly acting in the interests of Russia and/or the LDPR.
But maybe it was under Poroshenko that those who publicly called Poroshenko a terrorist were declared terrorists, while now the real saboteurs, spies, and agents of influence have appeared in large numbers? Let’s look at the latest March detentions.

March madness
On March 4, “agitators who called for the seizure of state power and violation of the territorial integrity of our country” were detained in Odessa and Zaporozhye. However, it is not specified to whom this call was addressed. The press service of the SBU assures us that these people posted on their pages on the “forbidden Russian social networks” (meaning “VKontakte”, but it has not been banned, just simply blocked by a number of Internet providers, which everybody perfectly circumvent with the help of a VPN) “destructive materials that promote ideas of forced federalisation and the secession of the southern regions from Ukraine”. The content, of course, was obtained from the “propagandist Internet publications of the aggressor country”. In short, the posts were disseminated/shared.

Does anyone understand what the “idea of forced federalisation” is? Is it when you come to the regional council with a machine gun and declare the Odessa or Zaporozhye region a federal district of Ukraine? And if the government in Kiev does not agree, then what? Well, you can still imagine the forced secession of territories, the creation of a separate state, but the forced federalisation of a region is a kind of surrealism. And yet, what exactly did the citizens call for – federalisation or withdrawal of the southern regions from Ukraine? Actually, these are different things. A woman from Odessa was accused on the basis of part 2 of the article 109 (seizure of power) for this, a man from Zaporozhye — of part 1 of the article 110 (encroachment on the territorial integrity).

On March 18, again in Odessa, a “separatist who has increased his activities” in connection with the coronavirus quarantine was captured — he publishes untruthful information about the coronavirus (I wonder if there is an examination by expert virologist concerning his case?), raises panic and sows protest moods among citizens, discredits the government, and calls for forced federalisation (they liked this stupid phrase simply because it is not prohibited by law to call for non-violent federalisation). As a result, he was accused of the same article 110 (encroachment on territorial integrity).

On March 20, “propagandists who were spreading separatist appeals and ideas of the so-called ‘Russian world'” via the Internet wee detained in Kiev.

This time, the investigation believes that the citizen was supervised by some mysterious Russian public organisation that the Russian government uses for information warfare against Ukraine, and the “agitator” even received money on a Russian bank card. Here’s a great phrase: “Law enforcement officers have identified materials that confirm the connection of the Internet propagandist with a pro-Russian public association, bank institutions of the Russian Federation, as well as a journalistic certificate of one of the Russian publications.”

Everything is wonderful here. At the beginning of the statement there was a “Russian” organisation, and at the end — a “pro-Russian” one. A connection with a Russian bank was identified — this is powerful. What kind of connection? Is he a bank customer, employee, or maybe a cash collector? What article of the Criminal Code of Ukraine prohibits having a “connection” with Russian banks? What article of the Criminal Code of Ukraine prohibits working as a journalist for Russian publications? Experience shows that such “miracles” do not come to court, but are used by the Press Service of the SBU for public justification of their actions. While the court, as usual, will notice the shares on social networks, something like: “Stop discriminating against the Russian language in Ukraine” or “Stop bombing Donbass”. Nevertheless, this person is accused under part 2 of the article 109 (seizure of power).

On March 23, an Internet agitator was neutralized in Dnepropetrovsk, who, “on the instructions of the Russian side, published on social networks untruthful information about the spread of COVID-19 in Ukraine, calling to violate the constitutional order and territorial integrity. To create panic, he had to photograph empty shelves in stores, queues at pharmacies, and record the work of special equipment and law enforcement officers. This was planned to be used for preparing fake news.”

It is unclear why the news will be fake if you actually get photos of empty shelves and queues at pharmacies. Although it is obvious from the wording that the detainee did not even take pictures of anything (is this forbidden?), but simply “had to”. Suspicion under article 110 (violation of territorial integrity).

On March 24th, a female resident of the Kherson region who “maintains contacts with the LDPR militants and coordinates her activities with the administrators of separatist groups in social networks“ was caught. Her activities against the state security of Ukraine consisted in the fact that on the social network she called coronavirus a “biological weapons of the United States” which got out of control. It is interesting: did the criticism of the United States start to undermine the national security of Ukraine before or after the meeting of the head of the SBU Bakanov with representatives of the State Department?

On March 27th there was a terrible “betrayal”. A female resident of Lvov who not only whipped up panic “fakes” about coronavirus to destabilise the situation in the region (is it Galician separatism, or what?), but also “promoted the idea of creating of the so-called Novorossiya”, was caught. I.e., Lvov is now pro-Novorossiya? The connection of the Lvov woman “with the special services of the Russian Federation and terrorist organisations of the LDPR” is being verified. Apparently, they themselves can’t believe it. Suspicion was raised under part 2 of article 109 and part 2 of article 110. This is already very serious, up to 10 years in prison.

What to do if they come to arrest you
I must say that Bakanov is right, the “new approach” is indeed very visible. If earlier you could be caught for the phrase “Poroshenko is a killer”, now it can happen for the phrase “the government is not fighting the epidemic”. When we say that almost all political prisoners were either released from prison in various ways or exchanged, we are talking about political prisoners from the time of Poroshenko. The names of the new ones — and we see that they do exist – are still unknown to the wide public.

And since many are dissatisfied with the epidemiological situation and the way the state is coping with it, many express their dissatisfaction publicly, including on social networks. So, what is the guarantee that “persons concerned with national security” will not come to them?

Well-known Kiev lawyer Valentin Rybin gave advice on what to do in the event “persons concerned” come to home: “If someone comes to your house, then before you open the door, ask for a court order authorising the search, and get a copy of it. Call a lawyer and don’t let the guests in until the lawyer arrives. If they come directly ‘through the door’ and put your face on the floor, then you should relax and wait for the moment when you will be able to call a lawyer (as a rule, this is the moment when ‘guests’ start talking to you). In any case, do not say a word until you are given the opportunity to call a lawyer, any one who is not gratuitous. If you are detained on the street or at work, at home or elsewhere, do not resist, go with your ‘friends’ to their place and call a lawyer from there. Remember: do not sign anything and do not give any evidence until your lawyer appears.”

Zaporozhye-based lawyer Olga Zelinskaya, through whose hands many “terrorists” passed, gives 6 points that a “terrorist” should follow during the search in order to stand more of a chance of avoiding prison: “1. call a lawyer; 2. carefully read the search warrant and maximally buy time until a lawyer arrives; 3. demand the involvement of an independent witness, and if there is a refusal, then record the reason for this on video or, at least, in the search report; 4. check the documents of all participants of the search and note their ID, because very often, the search is carried out not by the people in whose name the warrant was issued; 5. carefully make sure that the search is carried out simultaneously in one room, so that nothing is planted, and that it is done by the investigator, and not by the operative workers or any other people; 6. write down what is specifically seized during the search.”

Legal adviser from the law firm “Sich” (Kiev) Denis Korkunov explains that every citizen, even one to whom the SBU employees came, has constitutional rights: “A person who was visited by state security officials has rights enshrined in the Constitution and in criminal procedure legislation. First and foremost, you need to demand an explanation as to whether you are arrested or not, if yes – on what grounds you are suspected, to outline your right to have a lawyer, the right to receive medical care, the right to testify on the subject of matter of suspicion or to completely refuse ‘sentimental’ conversations with employees of the Security Service or the police, if such were sent to carry out the dark deeds of cloak and dagger knights. In accordance with article 213 of the Criminal Procedure Code, a detainee has the right to inform relatives, family members or other persons of their detention. In no case should you refuse the services of a professional defence lawyer, and before their arrival you should communicate as little as possible with law enforcement officers and do not sign any papers.

The most important thing is to remember that, according to article 63 of the Constitution of Ukraine, a person is not responsible for refusing to give evidence or explanations about themselves or their close relatives. And the main thing is that a person is considered innocent of committing a crime until the appropriate court verdict is passed.”

According to the law, a person is considered innocent. But the law is not taken into account either by the Press Service of the SBU or by journalists of the vast majority of Ukrainian publications that follow the SBU, declaring a person as criminal in advance, before the court has made a decision.

Unfortunately, the jokes that appeared after 2014 about “thieves’ cant” and tattoos like “convicted for a ‘like’, “this author of successful comments was jailed”, “reposted in Odnoklassniki”, or “inveterate extremist of VK” did not remain a sad reminder of the past era, but quietly migrate to the present day, just hiding behind the fig leaf of the “new approach”.

Pavel Volkov

Reading the above, it occured to me that Ukraine maybe experiences a level of control that increasingly will become more common in other areas of Europe too.

The above article may relate to the latest session from March 21 and below are two excerpts, of which the first explains "that any place is safe to the knowledgeable person." and the second that "one can continue to share truth in a careful way."

Session 21 March 2020

Session Date: March 21st 2020 Laura, Andromeda, and Artemis at the board Pierre, Joe, Chu, Ark, PoB, Scottie, Gaby, Niall, The Lunar Module, Noko the Wonderdog, Princess Leia, Pikabu zee Cat Q: (L) Today is March the 21st, 2020. (Andromeda) 3-2-1! (L) [Review of those present] Alright, so I...

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Q: (L) Okay. Another person asks:

Where is the safest place for us to be during the existing and upcoming turmoil?

A: Any place is safe to the knowledgeable person. Do you have the energy and resources to change?

Q: (L) And I guess it also comes down to if you have knowledge and you're in a high-stress environment, you can be safe but it takes a lot of energy for that, too. If you would like to reduce your stress and energy expenditure or if you NEED to reduce them, then you should make changes?

A: Yes

Q: (L) Okay, so...

(Joe) The most obvious effect of these measures that they're putting in place is a kind of pseudo-totalitarian lock down essentially. Can we assume that that was one of the agendas: to impose those lock downs on people?

A: Yes, total control. But it was not necessarily envisioned as lock down in this way.

Q: (Joe) It kinda got beyond their...

(L) What changed their...

(Andromeda) Approach?

(Joe) "But it was not necessarily envisioned as lock down in this way."

(Pierre) How was it envisioned initially?

A: Control. But a special factor entered. We are aware of your earlier discussions and questions, so perhaps we can explain.

Q: (L) I think this is gonna be a long one... Okay, let me light a cigarette before this starts.

[...]

A: The virus did not appear first in China. There were experiments at Fort Detrick regarding the creation of a vaccine that would make humans more controllable. This vaccine had unexpected effects and in some cases did the opposite of what was intended. The strain escaped into a population and further mutated. Indeed it was carried to China by US soldiers. China soon knew the type and origin and launched a massive campaign to control the situation. This was seen by Western powers as a good model to follow with additional add-on factors. In the meantime further mutations have occurred, some engineered via STO forces by virtue of the virus taking hold in certain persons whose spiritual force was able to direct the progression. At this point, there are two major strains. The elite need to stop the spread of that which they "created".

[The above answer took 12 minutes and 38 seconds with 2 short arm-resting breaks!]

Q: (L) So they need to stop that which they have created because in some cases, it does the opposite of what they wanted it to do?

A: Yes and this is the interesting factor: The virus can change DNA making individuals more susceptible to cosmic information of the STO variety. It can also enhance and activate long suppressed codons of a beneficial nature. So you can see why they are so desperate to halt the spread.

Q: (L) So, the virus may enhance connections to Cosmic Information, but it depends on who you are, how that works out. That reminds me of the answer, given a long time ago: "It's not where you are, but who you are and what you see." I guess this thing is going to enhance "seeing" for some people? Next question from our list:

At this final stage that we are now, should we stand up to things that we don't agree with, jeopardizing ourselves and our love ones well-being, or should just give up fighting for this world and concentrate on this "internal light" only? In other words: does it make sense to risk ...(put here whatever horrible you can think about) just for the sake of rebellion in a world that is over anyway? Or should we rather tune into and maintain frequency of a pendulum that lights our light, making choices that are less painful in this last drama of our realm?

A: The second option is the better one. But one can continue to share truth in a careful way.

Were the ones that were mentioned in the article from Stalkerzone not careful enough? Did they lack knowledge? Knowledge which could include a situational awareness of where they were and what they were doing.

For a different example consider also the following post by @Keit with a recommendation to be careful, although related to Russia and concerning Vladimir Kvachkov associated with Постоянно Действующиее Совещание Национально-Патриотических Сил России (ПДСНПСР)

Coronavirus Pandemic: Apocalypse Now! Or exaggerated scare story?

I remember opening of 2012 London olympic games and thinking WTH ? It stirred s lot of controversy at the time. Now is this too much of coincidence or not ? Allegedly this is exactly what Satanists like to do - flaunt it. The clip provided has been blocked. Here's the vid of the entire ceremony...

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[youlik]

@thorbiorn, like that?

How weapons steals in the Ukrainian army

Huge stash of weapons found in the Donbass (PHOTO)
24.04.2020 - 12:02

Employees of the criminal investigation Department of the Ukrainian police in the Kiev-occupied territory of the DPR found a huge cache of weapons in a former children's camp.

This is a former children's institution located in the village of Olginka (Volnovakha district). On its territory, Ukrainian police found a cache containing a flamethrower "bumblebee", 34 artillery mines and fuses for them, 33 grenade launchers, 45 grenades for grenade launchers, 73 charges for grenade launchers, 8 anti-personnel mines, 6 anti-tank mines, 1682 large-caliber projectiles of 14.5 and 30 mm, 367 grenades and 47 fuses for them, 14173 cartridges of various calibers, a sniper rifle and two Kalashnikov rifles.

The process of removing weapons and ammunition lasted about 10 hours.

The police establish the origin of the weapon, and a criminal case has been opened under part 1 of article 263 of the Criminal code ("Illegal handling of weapons").

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Translation

[Original post]
Как воруют оружие в украинской армии

Огромный тайник с оружием найден на Донбассе (ФОТО)
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[angelburst29]

@youlik, as you often use both Russian and English, when you write posts, and considering the forum is in English, here is something to consider:

Thorbiorn, Personally, I think you are nit-picking and your "self-importance" and "Authoritarian" attitude is surfacing?

Youlik, first Posted in his own native language ... and then provided an English translation. What's the problem?

It affords the reader - two options. If they are Russian, they can read it in their native language and then check if the translation to English corresponds. It also gives those, who are not Russian or speak the language fluently, an opportunity to get acquainted with the language.
Same applies to other non-English languages.

For example:

Данный пост посвящен теме дипломатического самовыражения и примерам последствий отказа от этого в современной Украине.

5 Советы по вежливому и дипломатическому языку

В этом блоге мы научим вас 5 способам быть вежливыми и дипломатичными в своем выступлении.

Если вы слишком прямолинейны, когда говорите, вы можете натолкнуться на агрессию, и это может отпугнуть людей.

Translation

This post deals with the the topic of expressing oneself diplomatically and examples of the consequences of not doing so in the present day Ukraine.

5 Tips for Polite and Diplomatic Language

In this blog we are going to teach you 5 ways to be polite and diplomatic in your speaking.

If you're too direct when you speak you can come across as aggressive and this might put people off.