Civil War in Ukraine: Western Empire vs Russia

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[quote author=thornbiorn]In the beginning a woman explains in Ukrainian why the Ukrainians themselves are so poorly informed about what goes on in their own country.[/quote]

Looks like she is Yulia Tymoshenko.
That doesn't mean she is not telling the truth, (this time) but she is a psychopath.
She said once, that everybody should be nuked in Eastern Ukraine. :evil:
I checked Google images and videos, like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ll-6Cj3oAI

She appears at 1:50.
Also this:
http://www.sott.net/article/276184-Time-to-grab-guns-and-kill-damn-Russians-Tymoshenko-in-leaked-tape
http://www.sott.net/article/274549-Dont-be-fooled-by-her-angelic-looks-shes-as-ruthless-as-shes-corrupt-A-withering-portrait-of-Ukraines-saviour-Yulia-Tymoshenko-by-a-Russia-expert-who-knows-her-well

Btw, thanks for the vids, shared it. :rockon:
 
Ukrainian parliament has announced the Russian Federation as aggressor

Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine on Tuesday approved a declaration recognizing Russia as an aggressor country and urged parliaments of foreign states and international organizations to follow suit and increase pressure on the Russian Federation. Ukrainian Parliament also called for recognition of the DPR and LPR as terrorist organizations.
For decision at an extraordinary meeting on Tuesday voted 271 of 289 registered deputies.

"The Verkhovna Rada recognizes Russia by aggressor and encourages international partners of Ukraine to prevent impunity for crimes against humanity committed since beginning of Russian aggression against Ukraine", - read out a statement of the Parliament Chairman Committee on Foreign Affairs Anna Gopko (fraction" Self-help").

In a statement claimed that Russia supports terrorism and blocks the activity of UN Security Council than endangers international peace and security.

Verkhovna Rada asks international partners to increase the pressure on Russia, "including through the introduction of new sectoral restrictions, sanctions, to stop Russian aggression and to force Russian government to implement in full all the items of Minsk agreements, to stop the illegal occupation of the Crimea, to release all the hostages and illegally detained on the territory of the Russian Federation citizens of Ukraine, including members of delegation to PACE, MP Nadezhda Savchenko. "Ukrainian Parliament also requests PACE to limit the powers of Russian delegation.

Verkhovna Rada urged international partners to provide the necessary military assistance to Ukraine, aimed at strengthening its defense capabilities, humanitarian assistance for affected civilian population and internally displaced persons, as well as help with the restoration of infrastructure in Donbass.

After the vote, Speaker of UA parliament {Jew} Vladimir Groysman said that in the near future sign document "with some stylistic corrections."

_http://www.interfax.ru/world/420391
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what the shit?!! Nadezhda Savchenko, one who pointed coordinates for Ukrainian army to shelling Donetsk, who secretly crossed the border of Russia under the guise of refugees and who which caught by employees of Russian security services, being in prison she becomes a people's deputy!??
 
Ukraine is ready to impose martial law, but the time for that has not yet come.

This was stated by Chairman of Verkhovna Rada Committee on National Security and Defense Sergey Pashinsky evening of January 20.
According to him, the documents about the military situation has "signed and sealed in envelopes."

"What will give the military situation? In terms of mobilization - nothing. If we will declare martial law, we will have more tanks?" - Said Pashinsky.

He also noted that the declaration of martial law in the country is not desirable, because UkraiInternational Monetary Fund. We are now in need of financial assistance", - said Pashinsky.

_http://korrespondent.net/ukraine/politics/3468988-pashynskyi-dokumenty-o-vvedenyy-voennoho-polozhenyia-uzhe-podpysany
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junta has butthurt to really in all ways to provoke a world war because of its boundless arrogance and stupidity...
 
Emma said:
[quote author=thornbiorn]In the beginning a woman explains in Ukrainian why the Ukrainians themselves are so poorly informed about what goes on in their own country.

Looks like she is Yulia Tymoshenko.
That doesn't mean she is not telling the truth, (this time) but she is a psychopath.
She said once, that everybody should be nuked in Eastern Ukraine. :evil:
I checked Google images and videos, like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ll-6Cj3oAI

She appears at 1:50.
Also this:
http://www.sott.net/article/276184-Time-to-grab-guns-and-kill-damn-Russians-Tymoshenko-in-leaked-tape
http://www.sott.net/article/274549-Dont-be-fooled-by-her-angelic-looks-shes-as-ruthless-as-shes-corrupt-A-withering-portrait-of-Ukraines-saviour-Yulia-Tymoshenko-by-a-Russia-expert-who-knows-her-well

Btw, thanks for the vids, shared it. :rockon:
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Thanks Emma for elaborating and giving the link to the Russian film about Yulia Timoshenko.
 
If anyone is interested in the history of the rise of the right-wing nationalist groups in Ukraine, then there is a free ebook in pdf (224 pages) that has been translated from Russian where it is available as a printet book. The introduction reads:
_http://www.cis-emo.net/sites/default/files/imagesimce/neonazis_euromaidan_-_2nd_edition.pdf said:
Stanislav Byshok, Alexey Kochetkov
NEONAZIS & EUROMAIDAN. From democracy to dictatorship. [Second edition].

“Whoever is not jumping is a Moskal” is a chant that women and men of different ages who took to Kiev Independence Square in winter 2013-2014 repeated trying to get warm. They kept jumping and laughing, for nobody in the ‘brave new world’ of the Ukrainian revolution under Stepan Bandera’s banner fancied gaining the character of a staunch enemy of Ukrainian statehood.

Mass demonstrations of “angry citizens” in Ukraine had objective reasons. This was a protest against ineffective and corrupt government, against police and bureaucratic abuse of power, against unclear and dead-end policies of the President and the Government.

All national liberation movements use the popular ideas and political sentiments that dominate the society as their positive manifesto. Thus, exclusively left-wing ideologies were mainstream in the Russian Empire in 1917, radical Islamism was most popular in Arab countries during the Arab spring of 2012, whereas nationalism, also radical, turned mainstream in the Ukraine of 2013-2014.

The book describes the development of Ukraine’s nationalist groups since 1991 until present day. It focuses on the history of the parliamentary right-wing radical Svoboda party and the non-parliamentary Right Sector movement. The authors study the ideology, psychology and methods of political struggle of these structures.

The experts seek to answer the question: how did the radical neo-Nazi groups manage to become the key driving force behind the Ukrainian revolution?

wwww.kmbook.ru
ISBN
© Stanislav Byshok, Alexey Kochetkov, 2014
© Alexei Semenov, 2014
Translation
Anna E. Nikiforova, PhD in poltiical science

I submit just one section (from pages 37-38) to give the reader an idea of the content:
Concluding his idea, Dontsov declares the fight with Russia to be the collective ideal of the national idea of the Ukrainian people. This ideal, in his opinion, “is conditioned by our historic traditions, our geographic position and a special historical role we are destined to play”. Ukraine’s geographic position “made it a theatre of ceaseless fight, both political and cultural, of the two worlds: Byzantine-Tatar-Mongol and Roman-European. It broke away from the latter politically but never culturally”.

“Our centuries-old fight with chaos in the East, the defense of our own statehood and culture – all culture of the West is what lays the foundation of Ukrainian national idea that should become the base for our entire political platform”, – the Russian mastermind of the Ukrainian integral nationalism wrote. In the conclusion of his “Osnovy nashey politiki” (“Fundamentals of our policy”) Dontsov once again reiterated that “our national ideal could only come true through uncompromising fight with Russia”.

Starting in 1923, Dontsov developed his own doctrine of “proactive nationalism” that was most fully described in the book “Nationalism” (1926). He described relations between nations according to social Darwinism. The social world of people like nature is dominated by the law of the struggle for existence exemplified by the law of competition between nations.

According to Dontsov, only strong nations with healthy instincts and developed will to power have the right to exist, while weak ones have to surrender and disappear. The key task of “proactive nationalism” is to make Ukrainians a strong nation and to win a decent place under the sun for it. One cannot ignore parallels with Nietzsche’s superman theory and will to power concept who many consider to be an ideological forerunner of German national-socialism.

According to Dontsov, nations never equal each other. What is more, an individual nation cannot and should not be a community of equal citizens with equal rights. Relations within nations are defined by the fact that nations are divided into castes. An initiative minority that he called “aristocracy” is at top of the hierarchical structure of the nation, while the rest of the people are “masses”, “crowds”, “plebs” and even “cattle” “that goes wherever it is led and does whatever it is said to do”.

Is this ideology fascist? As far back is 1923 Dontsov in his article “Are we fascists?” replied: “Political and moral and psychological spirit that Ukrainian nationalists believe in is no doubt fascism”. John Armstrong, a student of Ukrainian nationalism, in his turn, also points out that Dontsov’s theories and concepts “were
very close to fascism and in some regards, especially in repeatedly articulating racial purity, went even further than the original fascist ideas”.

The report about the Odessa massacre on page 127 ff is chilling. It appears to me that the book not only gives a picture of Ukraine nationalism but also indirectly, but without mentioning it in words, presents to the European reader a picture of how the EU/US through its support of the Kiev nationalism and silence on key issues has itself changed or at least moved to show its true color. Because it can hardly be that the power circles in the EU/US/NATO/Israel with access to all the secret service intelligence don't know what is really going on in Ukraine?
 
In this video from November 20, 2013, Deputy Oleg Tsarov explains in parliament what plans for civil unrest and civil war had been planned by the US before the Maidan even began:
The video has English subs but the transcript follows for the record:

–––––TRANSCRIPT–––––
Deputy Oleg Tsarov has the word

Honourable Colleagues
Honourable Vladimir Vasiljevitch

In my role as a representative of the Ukrainian people…
…activists of the public organisation "Volya" turned to me…
…providing clear evidence…
…that within our territory…
…with support and direct participation
…of the US Embassy in Kiev…
…the "TechCamp" project is realised…
…under which preparations are being made for a civil war in Ukraine.

The "TechCamp" project prepares specialists for information warfare…
…and the discrediting of state institutions using modern media…
…potential revolutionaries…
…for organising protests…
… and the toppling of the State Order.

The project is currently overseen and under the responsibility…
…of the US ambassador to Ukraine…
…Geoffrey R. Pyatt.

After the conversation with the organisation "Volya“…
… I have learned…
…that they succeeded to access Facilities in the project "TechCamp“…
…disguising as a team of IT specialists.

To their surprise, briefings on peculiarities of modern media were held.

American instructors explained how social networks and Internet technologies…
…can be used for targeted manipulation of public opinion…
…as well as to activate protest potential…
…to provoke violent unrest on the territory of Ukraine…
…Radicalisation of the population and triggering of infighting.

American instructors show examples of successful use of social networks…
…used to organise protests
…in Egypt, Tunisia and Libya.

"TechCamp" representatives currently hold conferences throughout Ukraine.

A total of five events have been held so far.

About 300 people were trained as operatives, which are now active throughout Ukraine.

The last conference "TechCamp" took place on 14 and 15 November 2013…
…in the Heart of Kiev on the territory of the US Embassy!

You tell me which country in the world would allow…
…a NGO to operate out of the ​ US Embassy?

This is disrespectful to the Ukrainian government, and against the Ukrainian People!

I appeal to the Constitutional Authorities of Ukraine with the following question:

Is it conceivable that representatives of the US Embassy…
…which organise the "TechCamp" Conferences…
…misuse their diplomatic mission?

–– Let him speak ––

Carry On

UN Resolution of 21 December 1965 regulates…
…inadmissibility of interference in the internal affairs of a state…
…to protect its independence and its sovereignty…
…in accordance with paragraphs one, two and five.

I ask you to consider this as an official beseech…
…to pursue an investigation of this case
Thank You!

During the speech a section of the parliament or some other visitors make so much noise that Oleg Tsarov can hardly get a voice, he is about to give up and that is when the leader of the house says "Let him speak" The noise continues but Tsarov comples his speech.
 
Someone posted a video with an American General explains the cooperation that Nato is having with Ukraine, it is a video from September. I am wondering what conclusions to draw from what the Americans are saying, but in any case, I leave the link if anyone wishes to have a look _https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLALTyMbqCk Then there was this article translated by Kristina Rus


And here is one more example of the perfect wisdom of the US/EU/NATO
_Alexander Nosovich for Rubaltic.ru said:
The Anti-Russian Policies of the EU Succeed at Killing the Baltic Shipping Industry
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Before Russian companies could carry its products through domestic ports, and through the Baltic. And now came the crisis, and in the environment of a radical reduction of shipping volumes, Russia will have to save its own shipping companies from bankruptcy.

Therefore, stimulation by the government of complete reorientation of Russian shipping to the Russian infrastructure - is logical and inevitable. Could Russia take into account the interests of the Baltic countries and not deprive them entirely of one of the most important sources of income that could support the economy of Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia in the critical moment of another default? It could, if the Baltic States, their leadership itself took into account their national interests. These interests include if not allied relations with Russia, but at least a good-neighbor policy. If Russia had good neighbors in the Baltic, it could invest in maintaining good-neighborly relations with them, not refusing entirely the shipping of its goods through Tallinn, Ventspils or Klaipeda.

But what definitely does not exist between Russia and the Baltic States - is good neighborly relations. "Black lists" exist, deportation of the Russian special service experts and even European Pro-Russian experts does exist, demands of new sanctions against Russia, accusations by Russia of violating human rights by the Baltic States, glorification of Nazi criminals by the anti-Russian provocateurs on the international arena.

All of it exists. But not the good neighborly relations. Therefore now, after mutual sanctions, falling oil prices and dramatic growth of the euro against the ruble, the Russian exports and imports will fall dramatically, there will be no Russian shipping through the Baltic States, and no work for tens of thousands of Baltic railroad workers, truck drivers, and port employees.

The top officials of Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia should be proud. Isn't this what they expected, when they broke all ties with their Eastern neighbor and demanded to establish sectoral sanctions, to make Russia more accommodating in the international arena by undermining its economy?

Politics is killing the EU economy. Perfect. To live well one has to hurt the neighbor to the maximum, especially a big and strong neighbor. And then everything will be alright, for sure!
 
Well, this is a little heartening:

http://fortruss.blogspot.com/2015/01/a-whole-village-in-odessa-region-kicks.html

A whole village in Odessa region kicks out the military recruiters in protest of mobilization

January 26, 2015
Alexander Ignatiev - Politnavigator
Translated by Kristina Rus

In the village of Kulich, Odessa region, locals rebelled against mobilization and expelled military officials from the village.

According to local residents, they learned in advance, that 240 army summons are coming to the village, and in a few minutes about 500 people gathered in the center. Six representatives from the military showed up to give out the mobilization papers, but were not met with understanding from the local population, writes the newspaper "Timer".

In response to the statement that refusal from mobilization shall be punished by law, the people began to shout "No to war!" and "We are for peace!", recalling that the country has not yet declared a martial law, and that the Minsk agreements have not been canceled. In this regard, the people refused to accept the summons, called the new wave of mobilization illegal and forcible, and kicked out of the military reps from their village.

People wrote an official address to the local authorities, calling mobilization illegal. They declared that they refuse to join the army, and any attempt to pick up their loved ones by force will be sabotaged by the entire village.

Update: According to social media this a Bulgarian village, please watch the video of the protest: "Let Yatsenyuk and Poroshenko fight in the first rows"

There's a video on facebook here: https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1566448566936996&set=vb.100007156031900&type=2&theater

Google translate of the post:

Bandera was not enough for the genocide of our people for 25 years. Was not enough to repression and political assassinations Bugeac Bulgarians. Including never forget Mileva and Nikolova burned in Odessa. Today they came to mobilize the Bulgarians to war. In the video, the Bulgarian village Kulevchi in the Odessa region in which the officer arrived APU mobilization. People came to the meeting and not allow him to even read the order.

There was a Bulgarian translation too.
 
herondancer said:
Well, this is a little heartening:

http://fortruss.blogspot.com/2015/01/a-whole-village-in-odessa-region-kicks.html

A whole village in Odessa region kicks out the military recruiters in protest of mobilization

[...]

Update: According to social media this a Bulgarian village, please watch the video of the protest: "Let Yatsenyuk and Poroshenko fight in the first rows"

There's a video on facebook here: https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1566448566936996&set=vb.100007156031900&type=2&theater

Google translate of the post:

Bandera was not enough for the genocide of our people for 25 years. Was not enough to repression and political assassinations Bugeac Bulgarians. Including never forget Mileva and Nikolova burned in Odessa. Today they came to mobilize the Bulgarians to war. In the video, the Bulgarian village Kulevchi in the Odessa region in which the officer arrived APU mobilization. People came to the meeting and not allow him to even read the order.

There was a Bulgarian translation too.

Very much heartening, good on these people, and hopefully there will be a wave of this.

Thanks for the video link, too, as it helped seeing something of what is possible when people stand together and say no to the Jackboots.
 
thorbiorn said:
In this video from November 20, 2013, Deputy Oleg Tsarov explains in parliament what plans for civil unrest and civil war had been planned by the US before the Maidan even began:

Thanks Thorbiorn for this video.

This morning I was reminded of the book called "The Secret Team" by L. Fletcher Prouty and where he gives examples of how the Secret Team would turn a population by staging events of bandits robbing the country side and killing people. In the end the population would get so fearful and tired of these intrusions that they would call for action after which the CIA's preferred man would come in and in "John Wayne Western style" get rid of the bandits (with fake deaths and bullets) and the right wing man had secured his place as leader of the country.

We are seeing the same in Ukraine, just as in Syria, provocation after provokation with the West immediately blaming Russia before the fires have been put out and without any serious considerations of the facts.
So far we have (In no way exhaustive):

Maidan sniper inicdent - blamed on Yanukovych
Odessa Trade Union fire massacre - blamed on the victims themselves
MH17 - blamed on Novorussian forces
Volnovakha bus shelling - blamed on Novorussian forces
Mariupol shelling - blamed on Novorussian forces

There are undoubtedly many more planned which will be activated as things are going increasingly bad for the Junta and thus as a consequence the West. One is apparently planned for tomorrow the 29/1 in Kherson during a parade of Ukrainian nationalists, with the aim to change the governor of Kherson and to declare martial law there. (This is from Strelkovs vk account)

Summaries of the militia of New Russia
27.01.15. Report of a possible provocation. "It was reported that in the next Kherson January 29 during a parade nationalists planned provocation with bloody victims. The group or several groups of Odessa ultras with St. George ribbons will need to attack the peaceful protesters and members of the MUP. There are armed with bats, knives, traumatic weapons and grenades (!). Activists Kherson cell "Right Sector" and "Self Defense Maidan" will represent the active opposition, but was seriously injured. The purpose of the attack - kill or maim several pro-Ukrainian citizens (most likely women / children) and especially MUP. Detained no one will accuse around local pro-Russian separatists. The purpose of provocation: Poroshenko to obtain from the introduction in the Kherson region of Martial Law and the associated displacement of the current governor of the region Putilova, allegedly for failing to organize the security of the citizens. "

These scenarios are as I see it done primarily to vector the opinions in the West, so as to rally behind sanctions, to rally behind the fascist Ukrainian government, to demonize the people of Donbass, to justify calling Donetsk and Lugansk Peoples Republics terrorist organisations etc. The real prize is of course the rise in Russophobia in the West, the justification for NATO and armaments, distraction from internal problems in the US and the EU not to mention Ukraine. It goes hand in hand with a totalitarian, rightwing, militaristic, nationalistic and anti-muslim agenda of the West. Haven't we seen this before, as the recent series of articles on Sott from Corey and Harrison have shown.

Regarding the provocations and false flag it might be good to keep a tab of them all. This ought to be done for Syria too, where it all started slowly with bandits roaming around killing people, which were attributed by the West of being the Syrian state starting to shoot its own people for wanting freedom etc.

The pattern is similar through all US changes/wars after WW2.
 
Just after I posted above, I read this from the Saker:
http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.ch/2015/01/ukraine-sitrep-january-27th-zionists.html said:
Well, just as predicted the Rada in Kiev has declared Russia an "aggressor state". Now all that is needed to "prove" their point is a major false flag to show that hordes of Spetsnaz GRU throat-cutters are slaughtering babies in their cribs (Kuwait), blowing up peaceful shoppers (Markale market), committing genocide (Srebrenica), massacring villages (Racak) or using Viagra as a weapon of war (Libya). Then Putin needs to be upgraded form "new Stalin" to "new Hitler" (or both) and, voilà, the US and NATO will have to "shoulder their historical burden" of having to defend "civilization, human right, freedom and progress" against the revanchist Russian aggressor.

I am sorry to have to say that, but I consider a large scale false flag a virtual inevitability by now. God willing, the Junta is in too much disarray and chaos to make it happen, but I think that everybody in the Novorussian resistance needs to go to "red alert" for some crazy move by the Junta.

Yes, a major False Flag is likely as the other provocations so far didn't quite do the job for the Western controlled puppets in Ukraine.
 
Yeah, the chances of an even bigger false flag are getting higher and higher, as things are really going bad for the Kiev freaks and their masters....
 
There have been voices before about the abuse of women by some of the forces in the Ukrainian Army, and now again: _http://antifashist.com/item/bespredel-v-mariupole-seksualnyh-rabyn-azova-rasstrelivayut-za-nepovinovenie.html#ixzz3QBxX9yS9 A rough translation posted on FB read:
_https://www.facebook.com/groups/IOUCO/permalink/703641596415564/ said:
"AWLESSNESS IN MARIUPOL: SEXUAL SLAVES "AZOV" WERE SHOT FOR DISOBEDIENCE
In Mariupol militants battalion "Azov" organized raped female prisoners of the colony, agreeing with her leadership. Information about this previously published repeatedly in the press, but now it has added new evidence of sexual slavery and execution for disobedience.
Several of the women prisoners had already been shot for refractoriness and resistance, the colony was blamed their deaths on "try to escape". This is reported in the social network Vkontakte with reference to information from local journalists.
"In Mariupol battalion "Azov" took into sexual slavery women prisoners. Not once It has been reported about the ongoing rape of local women by soldiers of naziguard. But punitive battalion "Azov" had decided to use them in an organized manner. The command "Azov" agreed with the authorities of the 107th women's penal colony of Mariupol on the nightly "lease number" of prisoners. Every night the battalion members taken from the colony a couple of dozen young women and girls and bring on base where all the regiment bullied all night. In the morning, barely alive women return to prison. Several women had already tortured to death or killed for resisting. Prison officials blamed the deaths on "escape attempt". This information is confirmed by several sources, including nazvanijami, bragging about it to their friends, and employees of the colony, who sympathize with the unfortunate prisoners, but can't help", - stated in the message."
Considering how the UA army has been shelling civiian targets for months, it is perhaps no surprise that civilians who have had some of their civil rights removed as these female prisoners are treated as described.
 
Today there were news about a new law taking effect in the Ukrainian army:

http://en.hunternews.ru/?p=172 said:
Ukrainian commanders can shoot down their subordinates from now

Posted By admin on 29.01.2015

In the Verkhovna Rada deputies of Ukraine registered the draft law, which allows commanders to shoot down their own soldiers. “With the purpose of detention of military personnel who have committed crimes related to disobedience, holdout or threat of violence, who voluntarily left the positions and locations of military units in the areas of combat mission, the right to use physical force, special means, and in a combat situation and weapons or to give subordinates an order on the use of such means, if it is impossible to stop criminal acts, is given to the commanders “.

Pay attention to the fact that there is the positive conclusion of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine Committee on issues of national Security and Defence (Chairman S. Pashinskiy) applied to the bill. In the explanatory note to the bill is said that the necessity of its adoption is determined by the “extreme necessity of maintaining military discipline and order in the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the conditions of the special period”.
 
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