Day to day, 3D me is still curious about the certainty one side or the other. Plausible arguments all around.

Taking the longer view, not exactly as a 'me' because what form of 'me' makes sense when awareness is extended backwards and forwards in time, this chaotic stage is a bonanza for self-actualization. Twilight Time for this phase of humanity. After? Dawning of the Day. Nothing to fear, and nothing like a little Moody Blues to mull it over.


 
3. That this is being taken as the grounds to push for mandated universal vaccines as per China and that the first on the block will be an untested, unsafe Coronavirus vaccine that miraculously turns up in a month’s time - to the mass 'ching, ching' of $ signs. Bonanza!

Well, this morning this article came up on my newsfeed. The article is 5 months old and relates to childhood vaccinations in the UK, but is interesting none-the-less.

Hancock: compulsory vaccinations being seriously considered

The government is “looking very seriously” at making vaccinations compulsory for state school pupils and has taken advice on how such a law could work, the health secretary has said.

Matt Hancock, a vehement critic of anti-vaccination campaigners, has previously suggested such a plan. Speaking at a fringe event at the Conservative party conference, he said he was “very worried” by falling vaccination rates, indicating the government could act soon.

“I’ve said before that we should be open-minded, and frankly, what I’d say is that when the state provides services to people then it’s a two-way street – you’ve got to take your responsibilities, too,” Hancock told the Q&A session hosted by the Huffington Post.

“So I think there’s a very strong argument for having compulsory vaccinations for children when they go to school, because otherwise they’re putting other children at risk.

“Then I’d want to make it very easy if the children do arrive at school not vaccinated, simply to get vaccinated, and make it the norm. But I think there’s a very strong argument for movement to compulsory vaccination, and I think the public would back us.”

Several US states, including California, have introduced such laws for state school pupils but also faced lengthy legal challenges.

Asked about such potential opposition in the UK, Hancock said: “Actually, I’ve received advice inside government this week on how we might go about it, and I’m looking very seriously at it.”

The UK has lost its official measles-free country status from the World Health Organization after a gradual fall in rates of MMR (measles, mumps and rubella) immunisation.

Figures released earlier this week showed that for vaccinations administered at the ages of 12 months, 24 months and five years, there has been a marked decline for 13 different diseases, including whooping cough, diphtheria and meningitis.

Hancock said this was “a serious problem” and added: “It’s unbelievable, I think, that Britain has lost its measles-free status, and it should be a real wake-up call. I think that the social media companies have got a lot to answer for, because they allow the spread of anti-vaccine messages.

“I will do whatever I can – the science is absolutely clear and settled on the importance of vaccination
. And the worst thing is that if you don’t vaccinate your child, and you can, then the person you’re putting at risk is not only your child but it’s also the child who can’t be vaccinated for medical reasons.”

Hancock said that vaccination rates below 95% lost the so-called herd immunity effect, and thus put at risk children unable to be vaccinated, for example those undergoing treatment for cancer.

He added: “You’ve got to make sure the system would work, because some children can’t be vaccinated and some may hold very strong religious convictions that you’d want to take into account, but frankly, the proportion of people in either of these categories is tiny, compared to the 7% or 8% now who don’t get vaccinated.”

Hancock first raised the idea of compulsory vaccinations in May, saying he did not wish to do it but might be forced to act if no other solutions to improve take-up rates could be found.

He said: “Those who have promoted the anti-vaccination myth are morally reprehensible, deeply irresponsible and have blood on their hands.”


Confidence in the MMR vaccination seems to have dropped at least partly in response to social media misinformation and scare stories. The discredited claims of Andrew Wakefield, who in 1998 theorised that the jab was linked to autism, are widely circulated.

Wakefield was struck off the medical register in 2010 after suggesting a link between the MMR vaccine and autism
 
hmm well effective since 6pm cet, Norway is also applying restrictions...
from source: Coronavirus in Norway: The Latest News on the COVID-19 Outbreak
the full story (source: Norway Is Closed: PM Takes Drastic Measures to Stop Coronavirus), but in short: Norway will be closed for the next 14 days. Until Thursday 26 March, all schools and universities are to close, bars and restaurants will not be permitted to open, many businesses will be forced to close their doors, and anyone who has travelled outside the Nordic countries faces a compulsory 14-day home quarantine.

Although no-one has yet died of the virus in Norway, we have seen the first serious cases requiring patients to be hospitalised. The regions around Bergen and Oslo (including Viken county) are hardest hit so far, although Trøndelag (central Norway) has also recorded a high number of cases.

The vast majority of people who have tested positive were either infected abroad or are close contacts of someone who was. However, yesterday five cases in three counties were reported that could not be traced to a known source of infection abroad.

Let's see how it will evolve around here ... however I went around few shop and 2 or 3 of them (Rema, Coop) were half empty ...
No talk about mandatory vaccination so far... but never know.

Wait & see, iodine, sodium bicarbonate and C-Vitamin in stock :p

#C

NB. on a positive note, Norway cancels NATO's arctic cold response exercice (source RT: Norway cancels NATO’s Arctic Cold Response exercises over coronavirus threat)
 
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Day to day, 3D me is still curious about the certainty one side or the other. Plausible arguments all around.

I suspect that the massive suppression of human beings will create a contact potential difference that will attract some pretty bodacious cosmic reactions. I doubt that this is what the elite had in mind.
 
Today's numbers are out

  • Stock markets continue their meltdown
  • Italy's numbers are hitting new heights.
  • Spain is in big trouble
  • France / Germany are playing games.. they'll be found out soon.
  • UK isn't testing enough but there are now loads of things that indicate their is an uncontrolled undetected outbreak in the country.
I think but I might be wrong.... The virus is literally everywhere it's going to be apparent soon enough that countries can't defeat it by themselves. Countries will need to work in a coordinated fashion. Step in the one world government.
 
Trump is not concerned - 'He wants to kiss Trudeau maybe?'

12 Mar, 2020

At last! That's it! The missing reason the whole Coronavirus has been set in motion simply so that Trump can be exited stage left due to expiration via a runny nose! He's 70+ after all. Who would question it?! Its election time, its election time,...

Excuse me folks. I've clearly lost it. Going shopping to join the hoards... l
 
Indeed. And how long before other countries pass such laws?

It really does look like the "big crackdown" the Cs predicted so long ago. Though, they did say it was not imminent then. But now, they say turmoil coming! Bumpy ride ahead.
Once maybe 10 years back, I read an article that Denmark, being small in area and populations, but still representative of a European customer base, was a popular place for big companies to test the customer response to new products. Perhaps something similar is working in the sphere of politics.

If one takes the view of the PM then she is a Social Democrat, which was founded in 1872 as a socialist party. Today it is a center left party which for some years was strongly influenced by anglo-american social liberalism and promoted the interests of private business and deregulation of the state. The party promotes itself as having focus on social welfare.

What has locally fueled the attention on the Corona virus is that while previous cold and flu seasons were treated as part of life without attracting major headlines, everything associated with the Corona virus is treated as if it was a car accident, and just like one can prevent some car accidents with speed limits, safety belts, properly constructed cars, so they think they can avoid any fatality from a virus, if they just use the latest technology. Newspapers and health experts have been very supportive of this angle, and as the politicians have to quite an extend to ride along with the "public opinion" they follow, especially because there are people who panic and blame them for not doing enough. First it was about the CO2 and now the Corona.

Here are some headlines from today, this should give an idea of what is going on and how it could play out in some other places
While Denmark closed down Europe stayed open
The police had to act against hoarding: We couldn't speak with capital letters large enough (Euphemism for swearing).
Danish shares experienced largest drop ever, lost more than 26 billion Euros in one day I checked the list and the biggest companies have lost from more than 5 % to almost 16 % in a few hours with an average around 10 %) If Denmark will be unable to supply Greenland and the Faroe Island with social benefits, there are probably others who will be open for a deal. So from this perspective a case of vulture capitalism, as explained by John Perkins, can not be ruled out, only the politicians have been convinced to go along more or less on their own initiative, although we may never know the exact details.)
Poison line receives alarm calls - children by mistake drink sanitary alcohol
Special requirement for Danes - you have to report someone to the police if the person is infected with the Corona virus
Specialist in administrative law: It is similar to legislation in a case of war
The Social Democrats about the far reaching proposals: we need to be able to play on all keys
Denmark distinguishes itself form the rest of the world with far reaching legislation
We use less, we fly less - but was that not what we wanted A comment from a philosopher (so he calls himself) about the present situation and the reduced emission of CO2. Which is why I think there will be a group of people pushing to make the emergencies permanent to save the climate and reduce CO2. (By the way for a small letter game there is this: CO2+RNA= CoRoNA).
Day one in a closed country: I'm afraid there is no more food
Top economist: chocking decision puts Denmark into "a very serious situation"
Breaking the Burka prohibition, two women went out to hoard. "Tonight I am home safe if they come" (These women apparently stay home 24/7/52 and the men do the shopping except for today!)
Corona chaos in Danish supermarkets: Jannie was spit on, threatened with thugs and called "-jezebel-"
Brawls and customers who refused to go. The police had to move out to supermarkets
Restaurant chain is Corona closed: "This hits us like a hammer in the head"
Restaurants, fitness centers and cinemas close down. These are your rights
You have to pay for child care even if the institution closes
Schools and highschools will make the education digital (The actual heading is different, but the idea is that the institutions will close while the teaching will continue digitally. This will make sure all will sit glued to the screen most of the day.)

Norway follows the Danish example: closes down schools, universities and kindergartens
ECB ready with help to the small cafe owner and the big company

Finally the storm they announced for today, was not much. It has been a windy but a reasonably warm and beautiful Spring day with only some scattered clouds. A few gusts above 30 m/s in some places, but the average wind speed was less. Like so many other advertised storms this season, it may not even qualify for the list, but that is to be seen.
 
Our city's famous high school is just opposite to the supermarket, where I was standing in line couple hours ago. Two student girls were standing behind me. One started to cough.
I got nervous and an imaginary scene was already playing in my mind me asking her quite assertively:
- Would you please not cough onto me? Here! You can get before me! Just go.
None of that materialized as the girl didn't continue coughing.

-- · --

In the bread & cake shop - where I mostly purchase bread for the extended family, a man came in, when I was going out and seeing me he immediately covered his mouth protectively with his elbow..

Bread purchases: my family thinks I'm crazy and they hold the magazine article before my eyes where it says "A family members thinking was completely changed by eating animal fat" - hinting that I have gone bonkers by refusing to eat pasta, bread, their precious freshly baked "magical-looking" cookies and instead I wolf down multiple pounds of rendered fat each month. :)
 

That's a link from the comments section of the Sott article: 'Ability to help may reach limit': Italian doctor tells RT medics 'exhausted' helping isolated patients - and other coronavirus news -- Sott.net

There's some serious cognitive dissonance going on here. Everyone on the Sott editorial team who comments here is in the "it's just the flu" camp. Yet, they link to articles that clearly show it's not. The idea that there's lots of flu and always deaths, so no big deal, is completely at odds with the information coming out of Italy. I think Dr. Gaby is in Spain, and has previously and recently reported "no big deal" or something to that effect. That's what they were saying in Italy a couple of weeks ago, and it appears that Spain is about to have it's version of the same overwhelming of medical system. It will be interesting if we get a front-line report from there via Dr. Gaby in the coming days.

Here's a little anecdote to compare to a favorite foil of sottites, the deplorable Killary (Kali in the flesh, except Kali at least has a divine purpose!). People are in cognitive dissonance about the so-called death-list. "So, how many people do you know who have been murdered?" is what I ask them. I follow up with asking how many people they know who are witnesses against them in criminal investigation. It's the same answer, "none," because it's so incredibly rare .

The same goes for flu deaths. How many people do you know who have died of the flu? I personally don't know anybody. How about people who have been hospitalized. Again, nobody. Have you even ever heard of such a story from a friend or acquaintance of someone they knew of died or was at least hospitalized by the flu? Nope, because it's also incredibly rare. If the numbers of annual flu deaths was even remotely close to the published statistics (pick a number, but maybe 50k/year is ballpark for the official statistics), we would all know someone, sometime in our lives, who died of flu, and even more so we would know someone who was at least hospitalized. In my 51 years of life, that 50k/year number in the US alone would be 2.5M incidents of flu-death. Someone better informed of death-birth model statistics would be able to tell me if this next point is accurate: that means one percent of the average US population over that time period has died of flue. That's not to say that its one percent of every body, given the previously mentioned birth-death statistical models, but it's still a significant number and really calls into question the whole idea that run-of-the-mill flu is dangerous at all. If it were that dangerous, wouldn't we all know it by personal experience by now?

I'm falling off the fence now, and absent some large butterfly fanning me over the other way (it would have to be a Moth-man sized butterfly!), I'm about to land in Italy.
 
Indeed it's kicking of here today, I was told Tesco around the corner from me shut, due to health and safety to many people, long cues in othere supermarkets, it's like Christmas shopping but 10 times worse People are clearing the shelves of everything, cars loaded with stuff. It's nuts out there.

Just heard, Riot police were called to the supermarket, reopened now, the good thing is now its one buy policy on certain items like toilet paper, sanitizer, nappies, etc
 
Well then, let's get all get ready for... Friday the 13th. 😬

Well, we all knew we were gonna have to deal with unpleasant stuff sooner or later. We've worked on maintaining a low profile, learning how to deal effectively with the world and others via external considering, and so on; so I guess this just ramps that up a bit. Plus, the Cs did tell us to relax and "enjoy the show", so it looks like that time is here.

It was bad enough when only the Lefties were gone hysterical; now it's almost everybody.
 
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