I understand how you feel
@Skyfall and I think that Max Egan has felt that way for many years. I don't think any of us have to react with violence unless it fits our situation. I think it may be more important to see the violence beging committed against us and go from there. For instance if someone points a gun at a loved one is it violent or inappropriate to defend the ones you love or even your own life if it means you cannot be of service to others?
Recently,
@Joe asked questions about that sort of situation:
Session 1 July 2014:
Also in the context of what we are facing we now see that "science" has become almost a "killing" machine:
Session 23 March 2013:
These situations will vary for the individual but hopefully, we will all survive to help others. We do not wish to "kill" but to exist and survive to help others I would hope.
I surely understand what you say goyacobol , and as I pointed out in my previous post ,if you are pushed against the corner and your life is really in peril , then you can and should use force to defend yourself, or as you said if somebody point a gun at a loved one ,certainly if really there is no other way out , I guess that the use of force couldn't be deemed as violence but as defense and is therefore appropriate.
However my comment on Max's post was more on the pragmatic/practical point of view , a 3D view if you like, rather than an esoteric view.
I still believe that this was a bad move from Max , calling for violence never end up well , do not get me wrong ,the vast majority of the politicians in Australia or any other country for the matter , should be jailed for treason never to be released again , and if the punishment for treason is capital punishment (as it is in certain countries) ) ...then so be it , I would also add the media prostitutes and all the un-elected " chief medical officers" as well in the mix ,(and there will be many more to add) but only after a proper trial in accordance to the law , no by mob's justice, they should be put on trial and if guilty then punished accordingly
Let's do a little mental exercise if you wish...
Let's say that some people will follow what Max suggested (and from the many comments on his forum seems like some could be ready to do it.....well at least on paper ) so armed "commandos" of 3 -4 people are formed and they start to attack and kill cops or politicians (the one without an armed escort of course ), or whomever they deem responsible for this terrible situation ,first in one suburb , then another then in another city , or even in many suburbs and cities all at once etc....
Many other sabotage operations will also take place , like destroying street cameras ,telephone tower etc in order to blind the enemy and so on...
How do you think that the cops or the government will react ? Certainly they will not say OMG they killing us , lets's roll back all these fascist /draconian laws and return to normal before we all end up at the morgue!!
Well , not doubt that when they realize what's happening ,for sure at least at the beginning some of them will be very scared, but never forget that we are dealing with full blown psychopaths here , they are not stupid , mentally deranged yes , but not stupid, they would have foreseen something like this (or maybe even triggered, who knows) they cannot wait for this to happen , they will unleash hell on all of us (and enjoying in the process) , endless arrests , endless raids of suspected militants, endless curfews and blood will really flow in the streets , they will not have problems to shot first and ask questions later ,the innocents will pay as much (if no more) as the guilty, it will be the famous "kill them all and let God sort out his own" kind of scenario and then what? Civil war ?
This remind me of the words of Solzhenitsyn , when he said that if people had taken clubs and knifes and instead of watching passively when family members , friends and neighbors were arrested and taken away by the police , started to kill them all ,the system would have crumbled rather quickly , when the policemen before their nights raids have to say goodbye to their family thinking that maybe they will not come back in the morning , they would have thought twice before doing this and all the system would have collapsed.
I have to say that for a period I thought that he could have been right , but was it really?
What if instead , the Soviet bosses (same sort of psychopaths do not forget) would have send the army to do the arrests instead of the regular police or even some worse organization made of fanatics authoritarian followers and they would have started shooting people if they even raised an eyebrow ? No doubt the situation at the time in Soviet Russia must have been horrible , but if people reacted as Solzhenitsyn suggested could have been even worse ? I guess that we will never know.
The best way to deal with this will be total non compliance , if ALL the people start to discard they masks , refuse the QR code , stop doing tests, refuse further vaccinations etc..all of this could end rather quickly , they cannot arrest or deport the entire population, but of course this is utopia ,it will never happen, and this is the reason as to why Max is so frustrated and angry, he have been advocating this non compliance for long time , how can be that he did not realized that was just utopia ,just a wishful thinking, did he really believed that this could really happen?
And now is advocating for open violence , bad move I would say , very bad one.
I personally believe that in the end evil always turn on itself , I do not think that open violence is necessary or warranted (unless in the situation as mentioned at the beginning) the psychopaths exactly because they are psychopaths don't care of the consequences of their own actions and in the end they will take too many risks and make too may mistakes thinking themselves omnipotent , as I mentioned in one of my previous post they try to crate a contradiction , but a contradiction cannot exist and cannot be sustained for long , nature will take her course and do a bit of cleaning in the process.