In German mostly
Corona-ausshuss.de is like a clearing house have some reports and documents on one of their pages: Dokumente – Stiftung Corona Ausschuss Apparently there are four lawyers behind it or supporting it: ueber-den-ausschuss – Stiftung Corona Ausschuss
This list on de.rt also has a few articles: Corona-Ausschuss However they have not added anything to the list since September.

In a anon fire-speech in German published by Matrixhacker.de
ANSPRACHE-XVII-4693 - DEUTSCHER MICHEL - DEUTSCHER NORMOPATH from September 30, 2021 there is a reference to Albert Biderman and his chart on the steps gaining of control over people. The Wiki has:
Biderman's Chart of Coercion, also called Biderman's Principles, is a table developed by sociologist Albert Biderman in 1957 to illustrate the methods of Chinese and Korean torture on American prisoners of war from the Korean War. The chart lists eight chronological general methods of torture that will psychologically break an individual.

Despite the chart's original Cold War application, Amnesty International has stated that the Chart of Coercion contains the "universal tools of torture and coercion". In the early 2000s, the chart was used by American interrogators at the Guantanamo Bay detention camp. It has also been applied to the psychological abuse used by perpetrators of domestic violence.
This is a short list of Biderman's categories with methods, effects and purposes, in addition to variants. It is an upgraded version of Pavlov's Dog.
A longer introduction from Cult Recovery 101, it begins:
Biderman’s Chart of Coercion
Most people who brainwash…use methods similar to those of prison guards who recognize that physical control is never easily accomplished without the cooperation of the prisoner. The most effective way to gain that cooperation is through subversive manipulation of the mind and feelings of the victim, who then becomes a psychological, as well as a physical, prisoner. (from an Amnesty International publication, “Report on Torture“, which depicts the brainwashing of prisoners of war.)
A German article that referred to the Biderman Chart was published as a comment to the lockdown around Christmas 2020.

Among the methods are isolation, monopolization of perception, exhaustion, threats, occasional indulgences, demonstrating omnipotence, and forcing trivial demands. From this perspective masks may not work as far as a virus is concerned, but may serve as a different kind of tool to force compliance, the same with isolation measures and the very restricted information flow.
 
Many of the past comments from Australian posters have referenced the phrase, " we are just the test case, the US is the prize". That phrase haunts me so and it has me believing that the pause on Biden's mandates by the courts might only be buying us a bit more time. If there's justification for a hand off to the SCOTUS I'm almost certain the pausing of the mandates will be overturned.

If what's happening in Australia has some karmic shading imagine what's in store for the United States?

Melbourne Woman Sets Herself On Fire Inside Car With Sign: “NO ONE CARES, MANDATES ARE KILLING US”


MAX IGAN

THE STARK REALITY IN AUSTRALIA

 
In March of 2020, a post by @luc referred to an article by Paul Schreyer
Another thing about the numbers a German independent journalist pointed out: you see health authorities coming up with these case numbers, fueling the panic with rising numbers. But if those authorities were scientifically sound, they would always indicate the number of tests they had done when comparing one day to the last, or one week to the other etc.
The same author has written a recent article in Magazin Multipolar, which was reposted on the site apolut.de where I first found it. It is disturbing to find that already in 2009 the legislation was modified silently to accommodate and justify the new types of "vaccines". The changes in the Merriam-Webster dictionary meanings are also revealing.

Below, the article is translated to English with DeepL, while the original in German is attached as a pdf. I have inserted the links as best I could, but often they will lead to articles in German. However for the EU documents it is possible that translations are found in other languages.


Fact check: Are mRNA injections vaccinations or gene therapy?
According to the German government's plans, mandatory vaccination will soon be introduced. But what kind of substances are we talking about exactly? Politicians and the media say that the novel mRNA preparations - such as "Comirnaty" from Biontech - are vaccines, which would therefore be subject to similar rules and legal regulations as other well-known and long-established vaccinations. Critics, on the other hand, say they are "gene therapies" that are called vaccines only to avoid stricter legal regulation and high licensing hurdles. Which is true?
PAUL SCHREYER, Dec. 3, 2021, 21 comments, PDF

Vaccination is something positive, it keeps you healthy, and it is necessary - many people are sure of that, especially during the Corona crisis. While the mRNA technology now being used is a new procedure, he said, its evaluation can draw on the extensive experience gained with other vaccinations over the past years and decades. The risk is manageable. In addition, an obligation to use mRNA preparations ("compulsory vaccination") is legally within the bounds of what is permissible - after all, there is already compulsory vaccination against measles.

However, assessments by several experts are now casting doubt on this view. For example, Stefan Oelrich, a member of the Bayer Board of Management, recently commented on mRNA preparations in a way that raises fundamental questions. Oelrich is head of the Bayer Group's drug division, which last year achieved global sales of 17 billion euros under his responsibility. He spoke at the opening of the annual World Health Summit in Berlin on October 24, alongside the German health minister, the WHO director, the EU Commission president and the UN secretary-general. In his welcoming speech, Oelrich acknowledged:

"The mRNA vaccines are an example of cell and gene therapy. If we had done a public survey two years ago and asked who would be willing to take gene or cell therapy and have it injected into their bodies, probably 95 percent of people would have said no. This pandemic has opened a lot of people's eyes to innovation in a way that wasn't possible before."

As a result, the mRNA injections are not a vaccination in the sense the term has been used. According to Oelrich, they are gene therapy, which until recently was highly controversial.

Other experts also see it that way. On November 2, a week after Oelrich's statement in Berlin, a panel of experts met in Washington at the invitation of Senator Ron Johnson to assess the campaign to administer the mRNA preparations. Among the invited experts was Peter Doshi, professor of pharmaceutical health services research at the University of Maryland and an editor at The BMJ magazine, also known as the British Medical Journal, one of the world's most prestigious medical journals. Doshi stated at the meeting:

"I'm one of those academics who takes the view that these mRNA products that everyone calls 'vaccines' are qualitatively different from standard vaccines. I found it amazing to learn that the Merriam-Webster dictionary changed the definition of 'vaccine' earlier this year. mRNA products did not meet the definitional criteria for a vaccine that Merriam-Webster had for 15 years. However, the definition was expanded so that mRNA products are now considered vaccines."

Merriam-Webster's dictionaries are the equivalent of the Duden dictionary in English. In fact, the definition there was changed accordingly in January 2021, at the start of the global vaccination campaign (here are the entries before, and after the change). Doshi tied the following question to this:

"How would you feel about a Covid vaccine requirement if we didn't call these preparations 'vaccines'? What if these injections were called drugs instead? The scenario then is, 'We have this drug and we have evidence that it doesn't prevent infection or stop virus transmission.' But the drug is supposed to reduce the risk of becoming severely ill and dying from covid. Would you take a dose of this drug every six months, possibly for the rest of your life, if that's what it took to keep the drug effective? And would you not only take the drug yourself, but also support a legal requirement that everyone else take the drug as well?

Or would you say, wait a minute - if that's all the medicine can do, why don't we use regular medicine instead, like we normally do when we're sick and want to get better? And why make taking it mandatory? The point is: Just because we call it a vaccine, we shouldn't assume that these new products are the same as all other childhood vaccines that are mandatory. Every product is something different. If people are OK with making something mandatory just because it's a vaccine and we're making other vaccines mandatory, I think it's time to bring some critical thinking to this discussion."


Change in the law made gene therapy a "vaccination
What is the legal situation in Germany? Where is it defined what can and cannot be considered a vaccination? The Scientific Services of the German Bundestag presented a technical classification on this in January 2021, which states with reference to EU Directive 2001/83/EC that "medicinal products containing mRNA are to be classified as gene therapy medicinal products." However, there is an exception to this, namely "medicinal products containing mRNA that are vaccines against infectious diseases".

What explains this exception? A search shows that it can be traced back to a change in the law in 2009. Prior to that change, Section 4 of the German Medicines Act stated:

"Vaccines are medicinal products (...) that contain antigens and are intended to be used in humans or animals to produce specific defensive and protective substances."

In 2009, that changed. In March of that year, shortly before the outbreak of swine flu, the German government presented a bill "to amend regulations under pharmaceutical law" that was necessary, among other things, to bring the Medicines Act into line with a European regulation that governed the handling of novel gene therapeutics. The health minister responsible at the time was Ulla Schmidt (SPD). Hidden in the 72-page bill on page 10 was the following inconspicuous proposed amendment, which is difficult to understand without further context:

"In paragraph 4, after the word 'antigens' the words 'or recombinant nucleic acids' and before the period at the end the words 'and, insofar as they contain recombinant nucleic acids, are intended exclusively for the prevention or treatment of infectious diseases' are inserted."

By way of explanation, the term "recombinant nucleic acids" also includes artificially produced mRNA. In June 2009, the Bundestag's Health Committee recommended that members of parliament adopt the government's 72-page draft amendment. The CDU's representative on the committee at the time was Jens Spahn. The draft was passed by the Bundestag shortly thereafter, in July 2009, and thus declared applicable law. Since then, Paragraph 4 of the Medicines Act has read as follows (the new additions are highlighted in bold):

"Vaccines are medicinal products (...) that contain antigens or recombinant nucleic acids and are intended to be used in humans or animals to produce specific defensive and protective substances and, insofar as they contain recombinant nucleic acids, are intended exclusively for the prevention or treatment of infectious diseases."

Without this politically determined change in definition, the mRNA preparations whose mandatory use is currently planned would legally be considered gene therapeutics rather than vaccinations. The physician Wolfgang Wodarg, at that time member of the health committee of the Bundestag, explained on inquiry to Multipolar that this detail of the law change was not well-known also to him at that time. According to Wodarg, the decision was made "in the last session before the election campaign summer break without any debate".

In addition, the EU Commission amended a directive "with regard to advanced therapy medicinal products" in September 2009. Since then, the following definition can be found in this directive:

"A gene therapy medicinal product means a biological medicinal product which has the following characteristics: it contains an active substance which contains a recombinant nucleic acid (...) Vaccines against infectious diseases are not gene therapy medicinal products."

Growth market mRNA drugs
Novel gene therapies with mRNA drugs have also been massively promoted by manufacturers in recent years in order to compensate for sharp drops in sales in the market segment of patent-protected drugs. The Ärztezeitung wrote about this in February 2021:

"By 2023, the pharmaceutical industry's revenue losses due to patent expirations are estimated at more than $121 billion worldwide, of which $95 billion in the U.S. alone. (...) A countermeasure by the pharmaceutical industry with innovations is particularly promising. The emerging novel therapeutic options (e.g. mRNA, bi-specific antibodies, gene therapy) not only give hope to patients but, if successfully approved, will also push manufacturers' sales and profit curves to new heights. After all, with improved efficacy and fewer side effects, the price of the drug plays a rather subordinate role, at least when there is little or no competition. Investors who bet on the right sector fund early on can also benefit from rising (share price) curves."

Biontech: "Novel and unprecedented category of therapeutics"
The company Biontech had virtually no experience with vaccines before the Corona crisis. They were primarily researching individualized mRNA immunotherapies for cancer patients until 2019. Although a collaboration with Pfizer had begun in 2018 to develop an mRNA "vaccine" against influenza, the project was in its infancy until the Corona Crisis - and remains so today. According to company statements from late 2019, they were more than a year away from starting the first clinical trials at that point. In fact, the first clinical trials of an mRNA drug designed to protect against influenza ("BNT 161") did not begin until September 2021, three years after the announcement.

In October 2019, Biontech went public in the U.S. to raise additional investor capital. To mark the occasion, the company openly explained the "risks associated with our business" in a lengthy annual report:

"To our knowledge, there is currently no precedent for an mRNA-based immunotherapy, such as the one we are developing, being approved for sale by the [U.S. Food and Drug Administration] FDA, the European Commission or any other regulatory agency elsewhere in the world. (...) The product candidates we develop may not be effective or may be only moderately effective or may have undesirable or unintended side effects, toxicities or other characteristics that could prevent marketing approval or limit commercial use. (...)

The development of mRNA drugs carries significant clinical development and regulatory risks because they represent a novel and unprecedented category of therapeutics. As a potential new category of therapeutics, to our knowledge, no mRNA immunotherapies have yet been approved by the FDA, EMA, or any other regulatory agency. (...) To date, there has not been a Phase 3 trial of an mRNA-based product or a commercial mRNA-based product. (...) Currently, mRNA is considered a gene therapy product by the FDA."


So much for Biontech's October 2019 self-report.

Conclusion
The assumption that mRNA preparations, such as Biontech's, are vaccines is based on a political definition change that was decided without parliamentary debate and hidden in a 72-page amendment 12 years ago. The two resolutions passed by the EU Commission and the German parliament in 2009 allow manufacturers of mRNA preparations to circumvent the stricter legal regulation for gene therapeutics as long as they can declare that the drugs are directed against infectious diseases. In fact, however, it is gene therapy or a genetically engineered drug.
The name of the German article is:
Faktencheck: Sind die mRNA-Injektionen Impfungen oder Gentherapie?
Other articles with the same theme are listed, and when the titles are translated one has:
Immunological reversal of thrust (Bert Ehgartner, 11/10/2021)
New safety report: 54 times more deaths reported for corona vaccines than for all other vaccinations combined (Susan Bonath, November 4, 2021)
The disease machine (Sven Böttcher, October 21, 2021)
'You can never trust clinical studies in the pharmaceutical industry' (Karsten Montag, June 30th, 2021)
'Sad reality': Inadequate monitoring of the side effects of the vaccination (Tilo Gräser, 23.6.2021)
On the effectiveness of influenza and corona vaccinations (Karsten Monday, June 12th, 2021)
The vaccination campaign: benefit for a few, harm for many (Wolfgang Wodarg, November 6, 2020)
In the article it was mentioned that the dictionary was edited, amd to repeat it was:
Merriam-Webster's dictionaries are the equivalent of the Duden dictionary in English. In fact, the definition there was changed accordingly in January 2021, at the start of the global vaccination campaign (here are the entries before, and after the change).
Definition of vaccine before
: a preparation of killed microorganisms, living attenuated organisms, or living fully virulent organisms that is administered to produce or artificially increase immunity to a particular disease

Definition of vaccine after
: a preparation that is administered (as by injection) to stimulate the body's immune response against a specific infectious disease:
a: an antigenic preparation of a typically inactivated or attenuated (see ATTENUATED sense 2) pathogenic agent (such as a bacterium or virus) or one of its components or products (such as a protein or toxin)
b: a preparation of genetic material (such as a strand of synthesized messenger RNA) that is used by the cells of the body to produce an antigenic substance (such as a fragment of virus spike protein)
That was the result from following the links in the article, and if one goes to the website of the Merriam-Webster online dictionary, the current definition is only longer:
Definition of vaccine currently
1: a preparation that is administered (as by injection) to stimulate the body's immune response against a specific infectious agent or disease: such as
a: an antigenic preparation of a typically inactivated or attenuated (see ATTENUATED sense 2) pathogenic agent (such as a bacterium or virus) or one of its components or products (such as a protein or toxin)a trivalent influenza vaccineoral polio vaccineMany vaccines are made from the virus itself, either weakened or killed, which will induce antibodies to bind and kill a live virus. Measles vaccines are just that, weakened (or attenuated) measles viruses.— Ann Finkbeiner et al.
… a tetanus toxoid-containing vaccine might be recommended for wound management in a pregnant woman if [greater than or equal to] 5 years have elapsed … .— Mark Sawyer et al.
In addition the subunit used in a vaccine must be carefully chosen, because not all components of a pathogen represent beneficial immunological targets.— Thomas J. Matthews and Dani P. Bolognesi
b: a preparation of genetic material (such as a strand of synthesized messenger RNA) that is used by the cells of the body to produce an antigenic substance (such as a fragment of virus spike protein)… Moderna's coronavirus vaccine … works by injecting a small piece of mRNA from the coronavirus that codes for the virus' spike protein. … mRNA vaccine spurs the body to produce the spike protein internally. That, in turn, triggers an immune response.— Susie Neilson et al.
The revolutionary messenger RNA vaccines that are now available have been over a decade in development. … Messenger RNA enters the cell cytoplasm and produces protein from the spike of the Covid-19 virus.— Thomas F. Cozza
Viral vector vaccines, another recent type of vaccine, are similar to DNA and RNA vaccines, but the virus's genetic information is housed in an attenuated virus (unrelated to the disease-causing virus) that helps to promote host cell fusion and entry.— Priya Kaur
NOTE: Vaccines may contain adjuvants (such as aluminum hydroxide) designed to enhance the strength and duration of the body's immune response.
2: a preparation or immunotherapy that is used to stimulate the body's immune response against noninfectious substances, agents, or diseases The U.S. Army is also testing a ricin vaccine and has reported success in mice.— Sue Goetinck Ambrose
… many of the most promising new cancer vaccines use dendritic cells to train the immune system to recognize tumor cells.— Patrick Barry
 

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The above stated (of course as expected) completely contrasts with what Prof Dr Sucharit Bhakdi stated in his latest telegram enrty: a Telegram video snippet (5 min in german), says that the BMJ, British Medical Journal published article from 2 Nov 2021**, showing that all data in the Pfizer III trials were falsified - and that “everybody now knows” that the data of the jabs show that they are completly useless, protecting absolutely nobody. Zero. Nada. “That there is no evidence anywhere that the jabs work, because they don’t and they can’t” - he says.

** I assume (but do not for sure), that Dr Sucharit Bhakdi is referring to this article at the BMJ ? Possible even other data, but it isn’t mentioned where. At least not in the video snippet.

One of the drawbacks with Telegram is, that people often handle references and links poorly, e.g. you often don’t know where what is originated from, or what people are referring to.
 
Many of the past comments from Australian posters have referenced the phrase, " we are just the test case, the US is the prize". That phrase haunts me so and it has me believing that the pause on Biden's mandates by the courts might only be buying us a bit more time. If there's justification for a hand off to the SCOTUS I'm almost certain the pausing of the mandates will be overturned.

If what's happening in Australia has some karmic shading imagine what's in store for the United States?

Melbourne Woman Sets Herself On Fire Inside Car With Sign: “NO ONE CARES, MANDATES ARE KILLING US”


MAX IGAN

THE STARK REALITY IN AUSTRALIA

I personally like Max Igan , even if I do not always necessarily agree 100% with all that he said..
However , I feel a bit sad for this last post , I was also thinking to put it up on the forum , but then I thought better..

This is a call to violence , I can understand his frustration and the frustration of many that commented on his forum ..... but it seems to me that if we call for violence we will fall in the psychopaths hands , once we get violent they can answer with much more violence and that will be it, exactly what they want , an excuse to ramp up the searches , the intimidation the arrests etc....

Frankly I believe that violence should be used only if there are not any other avenues i.e if you are pushed against the corner and your life is really in peril , then you can and should use force to defend yourself, as far as I can see from history, usually violence has the opposite effect of what was intended , you start a revolution with good intentions ,kill thousand and then you find that the new government is the same if not worse that the one before .

However to be perfectly honest ,I have to admit that I do not have an answer , situation in Australia and judging from the recent news, in many other places ,is quickly deteriorating , I do not believe (or let's say I do not want to believe ,not yet at least ) that we will reach the point where 4 cops and a nurse will show up in your home and forcing you down the floor will inject you , however if this has to happen I guess that can be qualified as been pushed against the corner and your life is in peril........what a horrible situation to be in....
 
Things are heating up in my country.
@Corvus, if you do not mind could you tell me in what country you are living? I am in Reedsville, PA in the USA as my profile shows. I decided to share as much information that might be relevant to anyone on the forum but that is just my decision. I think since so many of us are from all over the world it helps to get some easy background to see where we are.

I am sorry to see the restrictions are tightening where you are and I think as you seemed to think we may benefit from trying to "network" with everyday people in the long run even if we know many groups will be subject to "infiltrators". Hopefully a group of 'normies' can deal with them as needed.
 
Official SOS from Australia

Australia is asking for help! They continue to fight, but they no longer have the ability to make a difference. They need the support of the World to be heard and helped. The army and police there have completely suppressed the unsatisfied New World Order already established in Australia.
The video first shows Australia as she was: free and beautiful. The second half of the video is about what has become of her. The woman in the video is begging for help, as it's obvious they can't do it by themselves.

@Sergey,

It is amazing in a way that you are from Ukraine (thanks to your profile information) and that you care about Australia. We all might benefit from caring for others and their countries in distress I think.

I also have friends with family in Australia and I see their situation growing more dire day by day.

Thanks to other posts I ran across a man from Australia who had to leave to avoid arrest or going to prison. His name is Max Egan. The following video is graphic (contains the "F" word here and there) but I think it is sincere and depicts what some of us may have to face.

I would describe Max Egan as a "tough Gandhi" he has struggled to be non-violent for many years but now realizes it is the violence of the psychopaths that we may have to "resist" to even survive. If we survive we may be able to help others and if we do not we may have to make a stop-over in 5D to return but such is life and death perhaps.

Here is a recent video that describes Australia's condition:

THE STARK REALITY

I have been thinking about "resistance" and what it may mean for many of us depending on our karma and life choices. This is not a blanket assessment for everyone but perhaps some of us.

The Cs mentioned this in the following session:

Q: Well, I have observed that whatever we resist seems to cause us to suffer.

A: This is true, but suffering comes in differing degrees.

Q: And, it all seems to relate to our resistance to who and what we REALLY are and to doing things from a higher level of direction rather than the emotional programming.

A: That is true. All is lesson, and each lesson is one more step on the road to union with the One.

Q: I feel that my learning is at a standstill.

A: Standstills are not really of great concern as long as they are merely rest stops on the pathway to greater knowledge or growth. We have told you before, and others, to watch the signposts along the way, to read the signs and understand their meanings. If you do that, you will be far ahead of the battle. And, "battle" is the appropriate term, because battle is what results from attack, attack that is resisted in a progressive and positive manner. Therefore, one wants to be ahead of the battle if at all possible, and the tools for that are the signposts, and the signposts are EVERYWHERE! Intuition is one, synchronicity is another. You have enough power, knowledge and awareness already to recognize the signposts. It is only the emotions that can cause them to be clouded over. And this is only if the emotions which are a natural state of being for 3rd density existence, serve as a hindrance instead of an assistant. And that is the primary lesson for now: to take those emotions, which are perfectly natural, and employ them as assistance. Once emotions have been used positively, progress to 4th density STO is possible. The existence of emotions will moderate as progression through 4th density STO occurs. While that may not seem possible to you, or something that you can grasp at this time, you will understand it eventually.
 
I personally like Max Igan , even if I do not always necessarily agree 100% with all that he said..
However , I feel a bit sad for this last post , I was also thinking to put it up on the forum , but then I thought better..

This is a call to violence , I can understand his frustration and the frustration of many that commented on his forum ..... but it seems to me that if we call for violence we will fall in the psychopaths hands , once we get violent they can answer with much more violence and that will be it, exactly what they want , an excuse to ramp up the searches , the intimidation the arrests etc....

Frankly I believe that violence should be used only if there are not any other avenues i.e if you are pushed against the corner and your life is really in peril , then you can and should use force to defend yourself, as far as I can see from history, usually violence has the opposite effect of what was intended , you start a revolution with good intentions ,kill thousand and then you find that the new government is the same if not worse that the one before .

However to be perfectly honest ,I have to admit that I do not have an answer , situation in Australia and judging from the recent news, in many other places ,is quickly deteriorating , I do not believe (or let's say I do not want to believe ,not yet at least ) that we will reach the point where 4 cops and a nurse will show up in your home and forcing you down the floor will inject you , however if this has to happen I guess that can be qualified as been pushed against the corner and your life is in peril........what a horrible situation to be in....

I understand how you feel @Skyfall and I think that Max Egan has felt that way for many years. I don't think any of us have to react with violence unless it fits our situation. I think it may be more important to see the violence beging committed against us and go from there. For instance if someone points a gun at a loved one is it violent or inappropriate to defend the ones you love or even your own life if it means you cannot be of service to others?

Recently, @Joe asked questions about that sort of situation:

Session 1 July 2014:
Q: (Perceval) So, given the times around then being very war-like, with a lot of fighting and death going on in general... and with some kind of a Great Soul at the time coming down and... it doesn't necessarily have to be a peacemaker kissing people's feet like Jesus... But is there some thing like what we would understand as a prohibition against killing other people as a requirement for being "spiritually evolved"

A: That idea is for the most part an exaggerated human philosophical construct.


Q: (L) So the idea that...

(Perceval) That to be good, thou shalt not kill...

(Atriedes) But which religion does that come from? The most killingest religion on the planet!

(Perceval) It does seem to... Killing another human being for a normal human being does seem to be quite a traumatic thing.

(Atriedes) It's socially inculcated.

(Perceval) I doubt it. I mean, for soldiers, they come back with Post Traumatic Stress Disorder, they're trained to kill, and they want to kill themselves afterwards, ya know? They can't handle the fact that they...

(Pierre) Maybe the difference is that Caesar was aware of the very fundamental reason why he was killing...

A: Caesar intended to eliminate or vastly reduce killing. He knew what he was up against.

Also in the context of what we are facing we now see that "science" has become almost a "killing" machine:

Session 23 March 2013:
Q: (L) Hmm. So you say, "Scientists have been blinded by being led by the blind." Do you mean that...

A: When science is used for killing they have lost their honor and their way. Remember the parable of the talents. The man who was afraid and hid and hoarded? Then when the master came he was cast into darkness with the weepers and wailers. Thus shall it be yet again.

These situations will vary for the individual but hopefully, we will all survive to help others. We do not wish to "kill" but to exist and survive to help others I would hope.
 
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Not to all of us, @Natus Videre but keep us posted. It helps for all of us to just "network". It is new news to me. Thanks.
Same here, I tried to find a reference, and couldn't find anything earlier than December 8, which was yesterday. Omicron was a candidate for a booster, so no surprise, but how Phizer-BioNTek would respond to the challenge was not yet clear. Now those who have shares with them may put their worries to rest, unless they rely on public health care. Imagine how a three booster theme will go along with the usual health care demands?
 
Not to all of us, @Natus Videre but keep us posted. It helps for all of us to just "network". It is new news to me. Thanks.
It was a joke. Sorry for the confusion. Omicron "3-dose" shot was fresh news to all of us.
But what's not a joke is that Israel is always a step ahead of the West in terms of shots. When the West is contemplating a third shot, Israel is already fairly advanced with its rollout. The following pattern seems to be consistent: <Shot 1 - Israel>, <Contemplation - West>, <Shot 2 - Israel>, <Shot 1 - West>, <Shot 2 - Israel>, etc. The West eagerly waits for "conclusive data" from Israel to present "hard evidence" to its population and begin "mandatory operations" to "save" humanity. The C's mentioned the destruction of Israel, which seems to be in progress, but with more "spiritual guns" than "physical guns".
 
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