Coronavirus Pandemic: Apocalypse Now! Or exaggerated scare story?

[iamthatis]

More on the same article:

How the Pandemic Will End

The U.S. may end up with the worst COVID-19 outbreak in the industrialized world. This is how it’s going to play out.

www.theatlantic.com

I separated it since this is where it becomes really interesting (kind of lifting of the veil a bit):





So I think we are going to move away from the war on terror, which was costly, hence the start to bring troops home, and then the start of the war on viruses, still a faceless enemy, but with a lot more ways to control the population.

Does this make sense to anyone?

Yes, it makes sense to me. Thanks for your effort in fleshing out this pattern.

In university I read a section of 'The Birth of Biopolitics' by Foucault. In it, he states the power of kings was to 'let live, and make die'. It was a long time ago, but from what I recall, the population was allowed to live as serfs, and only if they broke the law would the state intervene. However, biopolitics is a new regime with a different logic. Foucualt suggests that our current regime is to 'make live and let die'. In my view, what he meant by this is that the state realized it needed a certain degree of health of its captive population, just as a farmer needs a healthy herd for slaughter day. It's a balance - healthy enough to be eaten, but addicted to various poisons and numb in the mind so as to prevent the herd from sensing the farmer's true intentions.

What's more, Foucault also wrote that the bubonic plague changed the way states functioned. So many people died, it became fearful of its ability to extract from (or feed on) its herd. During the plague times, the population was 'forced to appear' at their windows to be counted. I could be misremembering here, but this could have been the birth of the first official census data. All because the farmer needed to know his losses, and needed to know the health of his herd.

There is a correlation between then and now - people are being 'forced to appear' in lots of ways, mostly through surveillance technologies. And the ID2020 information may be the next step in that. Mandatory health. Like gym class in high school - but for the rest of your life?

 

[luc]

I've seen that. Nobody has masks so people are improvising and making their own. Lots of folks on local Facebook groups showing "how-to's" although I wonder about their effectiveness. Women are even making them out of bras!

This mask fetish reminds me of how in the early times of Nazism, some people went out of their way showing their worship for the fascists even before there was any pressure. The masks are some sort of swastika you can pin on you, showing your love for the overlords. And of course, everyone in the "out group" becomes the enemy and must be forced to go along. How long till the first SA troops go roaming the streets? Oh wait, that's already happening, kinda. Irony of irony: the antifa is totally on board. They loved masks even before all this. The insanity!

I am wondering What ever we are seeing is from a technology much different than what they did before. Before, shock and awe against the enemy is somewhat distant and it reached their bodies with corona scare. I am also wondering about this organic portal component.
C's said OP are pool group and did 4D STS triggered some thing in them to activate them much more obediently large scale? . I find that people are even scared to see in the eyes 8 ft apart at the shop. I find it strange and bizarre.

Yes, I have been wondering about OPs too. We must be very careful not to label people and it's complicated, but I suspect that some, or many, OPs were just programmed with a new program. The sudden changes in behavior, the "snapping", the complete lack of instinct that all of this is over the top even if you believe the media, are so extreme. But there are other reasons and it's not black and white, we should always keep that in mind IMO.

 

[rrraven]

@iamthatis the Romans had census ,like in the story of the tradie and his pregnant teenage wife having to go to his home town for roman census ,in the bible you know

 

[Revolucionar]

Just checked out some of the Croatian national news sites mostly to see the comments and get a pulse on the people. Oh, man! I'm starting to wish I was on social media, just to set some things straight.
Almost everyone is oblivious and just taking this lockdown for granted. Then you get a few people in there who know what's going on but they temd to sound like those American street preachers. It's hopeless.
Officials are saying we're getting linear virus spread and that this is due to the measures, which is contradicted by models that said you need at least 3 weeks to see any effects of lockdown, and we'd had linear growth from the outset pretty much. In fact they've been increasing the number of people tested so we're probably getting less and less actual new cases. They're saying once the number of new poitives starts to go down for a few days in a row, they will start slowly relaxing the measures, but they're obviously increasing testing to keep it going longer. People are getting fired en masse and we're heading for an economic catastrophe worse than what happened during and after the war here, but people still seem to expect things going back to normal more or less. Hopeless, I tell ya, hopeless. Where's that comet?

 

[Nachtweide]

Sorry, I’m still trying to catch up - but I wanted to give another aspect to the above.

Most professional anaesthesia/ ICU bodies have recommended that any patient with respiratory difficulties be intubated straight away. This is not the normal procedure, but a major deviation from common practice. A lot of patients with pneumonia will never progress to intubation, but will have what is called NIV (non-invasive ventilation), basically an airtight mask strapped on their head that will support their breathing.

The idea is that intubation is safer for staff (not the patient), because once the patient is intubated, he is on a closed circuit and
thus his environment is protected from secretions/ aerosols.

That means that a number of patients that woudl normally stay in HDU rather than ICU are now shifted to ICU (because only ICU ventilates patients), which in my view will artificially inflate the numbers of patients in ICU - even if only by a small percentage, which might be enough to overcrowd an already stretched ICU.

On top of that, intubation has its own issues - ventilator-associated pneumonia, reflecting the fact that if a patient is on a ventilator, he has a higher risk of developing pneumonia, due to reduced clearance of bronchial secretions. Of course the Covid-19 patients already have a pneumonia, but lack of clearance of secretions make healing harder.

A legitimate question would be: How many people are intubated and ventilated? How many people are ventilated externally with oxygen through a mask? COPD patients very often say: I am attached to the ventilator. In their view, yes - 24 hours on an oxygen device with a mask is a ventilation aid. From a medical point of view, no, since ventilation with intubation takes place here.
I remembered a conversation in summer 2019 with a girlfriend who is the nursing manager in an for 24 hoursoutpatient nursing service for respiratory patients . She called me and asked if I currently have patients who are being ventilated. I was quite astonished because ventilation patients are very rare, COPD patients with oxygen devices are not rare. She said that she had free capacity and that she had already asked for it in all clinics - especially in neurology, since it mostly affects apoplexes. It would be an acute shortage of ventilated patients. The trend is towards residential communities requiring ventilation. This is where most of the money is paid for patients from system and nurses switch massively there from normal nursing services. In jest I said: Then we have to do some if there are none.
We then talked about the difficulties of ventilation, because after a certain time patients can no longer be weaned from the machine. This is a difficult situation since normal nursing homes do not accept ventilation patients.

 

[loreta]

This mask fetish reminds me of how in the early times of Nazism, some people went out of their way showing their worship for the fascists even before there was any pressure. The masks are some sort of swastika you can pin on you, showing your love for the overlords. And of course, everyone in the "out group" becomes the enemy and must be forced to go along. How long till the first SA troops go roaming the streets? Oh wait, that's already happening, kinda. Irony of irony: the antifa is totally on board. They loved masks even before all this. The insanity!



Yes, I have been wondering about OPs too. We must be very careful not to label people and it's complicated, but I suspect that some, or many, OPs were just programmed with a new program. The sudden changes in behavior, the "snapping", the complete lack of instinct that all of this is over the top even if you believe the media, are so extreme. But there are other reasons and it's not black and white, we should always keep that in mind IMO.

Interesting what you said about Foucault.

Now in Spain the government will check everyone, EVERYONE, by mobile. Now we know why you need a mobile for everything, even old seniors for their bank accounts. This Plan is made since many years ago.

They said it is for control and stop Coronavirus. Yeah.

More than 40 million mobiles will be tracked in Spain to stop covid


More than 40 million mobile phones from all over Spain will be tracked in an anonymous mobility study, which will allow knowing the population movements between territories and will contribute to decision-making to deal with the coronavirus.

This is a study, called DataCOVID, promoted by the Ministry of Economic Affairs and Digital Transformation in collaboration with the National Statistics Institute (INE), which will allow analysis of population movements during the health emergency due to covid-19 Government sources have reported this Wednesday.

The study, which was already advanced a few days ago by the third vice president and minister of Economic Affairs and Digital Transformation Nadia Calviño, will not track individual movements, but will use positioning data from mobile, anonymous and aggregated devices.

(yeah! We believe that oh yes.)


Data that will be provided directly by the operators and will eliminate any personal information, without identifying or tracking individual phone numbers or holders.

(We believe this enormous lie yes Sir!!)



Although government sources do not need it, Telefónica, Orange and Vodafone will participate in this study, sources from these operators confirmed to EFE moments after the minister's announcement.


For this, Spain will be divided into some 3,200 mobility areas, which will identify populations of between 5,000 and 50,000 inhabitants

Specifically, the position data of more than 40 million mobiles will be analyzed.

The objective is to analyze the effect of the measures on the mobility of the population, so as to identify if movements between territories increase or decrease or if there are areas where there is a greater concentration of population.

This study will use the possibilities offered by big data to analyze a large amount of information and draw conclusions in order to make decisions based on evidence, in a more coordinated way and adapted to each territory.

The analysis has a first pilot in the Valencian Community.


By not using personal data, this study does not conflict with the General Data Protection Regulation (RGPD), according to sources, and also follows the guidelines set by the Spanish Agency for Data Protection, according to sources.

(ja ja ja, they really believe that we are all morons to believe this)


The current health regulations protect the authorities to use data for research purposes in exceptional situations and serious for public health such as the current one.

The data controller will be the National Statistics Institute.

Source

Since the beginning of the State of fear I stop to bring my mobile with me. But everyone on the streets have theirs. So it will be interesting to see if there is a change in this situation.

 

[Faina]

I heard that in Greece you now have to ask for permission to go out by sending an SMS. I heard that the same thing will happen here.

В Татарстане создали смс-систему пропусков в режиме самоизоляции

In Tatarstan have created an SMS system passes in a mode of self-isolation.

In order to leave the house, a citizen needs to send a free SMS message to the number 2590 with the following text: REGISTRATION#Last name First Name # passport series and number#address of the actual place of residence.

In response, they receive a text message with a unique registration code. Then the person must send a second SMS message to the number with the text "GOAL" and specify the purpose of movement. Only after waiting for a response message with a unique code that specifies the period of validity of the permit, you can leave the house.

You can get this right to visit a court, take a child to an educational organization, visit doctors, participate in funerals, or get or restore a passport. You can also get permission to travel to your dacha, visit the post office and credit organizations. In addition, a permit can be issued for the delivery of medicines, food and basic necessities to sick relatives.

Persons going to work only need a certificate form, which the employer can issue to employees.

Such permissions are not necessary if you are applying for emergency medical care and in cases of direct threat to life and health, as well as when buying food at a nearby store, walking Pets, or taking out garbage.

 

[Agron]

Perhaps a good way to detox also? My body was cool and in seconds I was literally gushing sweat. Is this normal?

Also, I had a kind of conversation with a lady blackbird. I put a bowl out every day full of raisins, this morning I put it on the other side, as I wanted to enjoy the sun, and not scare the birds.
She hopped on the ledge, puzzled. Now, this bowl was blocked from her view by a shrub. I telepathically sent her the message that the bowl was on the other side and nodded in the direction of the bowl. She immediately flew towards the bowl and began to eat. I think animals are telepathic, but I sense she understood the nod also.

Animals are always sending us "thoughts", especially the FEED ME ones hahahahah.. I totally know when my cats are hungry without seeing them. And most of what us humans know we learned by observing animals and nature...

Thats also one of the things human beings can now do to re-connect and ground themselves. Start spending more time in nature and look at animals!

 

[Konstantin]

Yesterday on FB i noticed how one Macedonian web portal and Tv station posted the news about a 13-year-old kid that died in London, apparently from Covid-19.

I made a comment on that not to make hysteria out of it and to bring the full story about that poor kid, not just part of it, so we could see the real complete image.
And I didn't expect that so many people will jump in. The majority of them know that this is a scam, but are afraid about the unknown, what game is played in the background.

One person wrote that her mother has high blood pressure. They called the ambulance, and they tried to give something to her so she could feel better but nothing worked at the moment. Then the family asked them to hospitalized her because her condition was very serious.
Their answer was that they can hospitalize her only if a family member signs a document where they admit that the woman was infected with Covid-19. .

So, with my words , if you agree to be the part of this big drama, we will help you mother, but if she dies, she will be part of our CV statistics, if you don't agree to be part of this drama, we won't help her at all, she will probably die, and at the end, he will be calculated as a CV death anyway.

This is so inhuman.



Also I read that some of the symptoms of this CV are loss of smell and taste.
I always get such bad flu at least every 2-3 years. I cant feel the taste or smell of anything. Then after a week or so it all comes back. So it is nothing new. Such infections were always among us humans.

 

[Ina]

Exactly. People are reporting and filming empty hospitals because they've been primed to expect a 'surge' of patients there, but the authoritarians are only going to use that as evidence that 'social isolation is working' and demand that it be kept up.

They might be filming private hospitals as well. If I understand the situation correctly the emphasis was put on the public health sector almost in exclusivity. Is this a public health and public governance live stress exercise? Besides, I haven’t seen yet any declaration from the private health insurance companies, apart from the South African Discovery mentioning (on their website) among the known list of precautionary measures that the first Covid-19 was test free of charge. Maybe I did not look well enough?

 

[Agron]

You cannot make up this shite

Coronavirus testing kits heading to the UK found to be contaminated with Covid-19

I remember the scandal with HIV infected syringes!! And few with vaccination as do many of you.
I suspeceted that monsters from big pharma community are not below intentionally infecting thousands of people to up their profits even a decade ago...
Just a few links I found in a short time:

Clinic's reused needles may have exposed 40,000 to hepatitis, HIV

The discovery led to the biggest public health notification operation in U.S. history,...

www.sfgate.com

Pakistani 'rogue doctor' infects 900 children after reusing syringes

Dr Muzaffar Ghanghro has been charged with negligence and manslaughter after allegedly reusing infected syringes on children in Ratadero, even reportedly retrieving them from bins.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Indian fake doctor injects 21 with HIV through tainted syringes

Police are looking for Rajendra Yadav.

eu.usatoday.com

Nurse Reuses Syringe Putting 70 Patients at Risk for HIV

Nearly 70 employees of Princeton, NJ outlet, Otsuka Pharmaceutical are being screened for HIV and hepatitis after a nurse was found reusing a syringe to administer flu shots.

nurseslabs.com

Rogue Dentist May Have Exposed 7,000 Patients to HIV, Hepatitis

The Tulsa Health Department is warning 7,000 patients of a local dentist office that they could have contracted HIV, hepatitis B or hepatitis C from poor sterilization practices.

abcnews.go.com

And I just saw this, havent even heard of SMART SYRINGES before?!? dammit, why I had to search for hiv scandals lolz

What is a “smart” syringe? By 2020, you’ll be getting all your shots with one

What is a “smart” syringe? By 2020, you’ll be getting all your shots with one | TED Blog

Marc Koska has spent 30 years advocating for safe syringes. Today, the World Health Organization picks up the baton.

blog.ted.com

 

[SOTTREADER]

I've seen that. Nobody has masks so people are improvising and making their own. Lots of folks on local Facebook groups showing "how-to's" although I wonder about their effectiveness. Women are even making them out of bras!

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So this mask thing is interesting.... I've heard it said masks are a nice easy way to flatten that curve and eliminate social distancing.

The only reason they have social distancing is because they say the droplets travel far when you sneeze or talk. Masks stop that.

Another thing, they say asymptomatic carriers are the main reason for everyone being kept apart... Because if you can't tell apart everyone who is sick, you just have to assume everyone is sick. So masks again eliminate the dangers posed by asymptomatic carriers.

In all those Asian countries, they wear masks religiously... EVERYONE does and I heard there's no social distancing there because of this.

So some people out here in the west are now pushing for masks as a substitute to the silly levels of lockdown we're having.

They are questioning why government can't produce masks which are cheaper than the economic impact of everyone staying in.

In those Asian countries, they haven't locked down their countries to the same extent we have in the West.

It's a bit interesting how they want to adopt a lot of the measures from Asia, including cell phone tracking but masks are like a big fat no no.

To me this is just another thing that shows the official narrative is false. It's okay for people to wear gloves (which a lot are doing) and no one is complaining but masks are different. If masks were so useless, why are the medical professionals wearing them as standard procedure.

In any case, the western governments are choosing to pursue super expensive options when there are cheaper effective ones available which to me means public health is not their main concern.

 

[Agron]

I have problems too. It start today. Then I downloaded Google Chrome, still same. So, I keep pressing reload button, then ok, but in a few minutes later same thing happens.

The message come up like this,

“This site can’t provide a secure connection”
“Cassiopaea.org sent an invalid response “

@biuta and @stellar

I noticed some weird glitches yesterday evening too. Like phising or a program trying to take over my browser.
But I use mozilla firefox on a mac that has a very old OS. I hit delete ALL history and cookies and whatever it can delete and when I do that I have a nice functionig browser!! I do it every so often and I manage my cookies.
Btw.I had noticed 2-3 years ago that new OS for macs are far worse than older so I didnt upload to new ones. Boy am I happy I decided that!!
And I was also using Safari (native to mac) but I noticed its slow and much more open to attacks from bots or whatever is trying to spy our browsers.

Maybe try using firefox and install addons for blocking. Privacy badger and Adblockplus work like a charm for me!

 

[aragorn]

Just thinking aloud here...but after reading and following various discussions on SM the past days, it suddenly became clearer to me than ever before how most of what you read everywhere on the Internet is false and with a very high probability intentionally spread false information. Sure, I've "known" this for many years, but now I could more clearly see and feel it.

For example, this recent trending topic of #FilmYourHospital is getting some deserved attention, and e.g. on Twitter there's always a bunch of people who will 'debunk' these videos by writing something like: "My sister is a nurse at ... and she's telling that the panic is real." or "My cousin who was only 23 just died of COVID19. You're horrible people for saying this is a hoax."

Now, I can't explain this, but I suddenly "saw" how there's most certainly a large group of 'operatives', thousands or maybe more, who's sole job is to follow all the discussions and post these things in order to influence the discussions. They get their orders and they execute them like robots, sitting in some weird bunker underground, or something.

I think we're witnessing a larger and more elaborate PSYOP than you could ever imagine, with thousands of 'operatives' manipulating us.

 

[Agron]

Just checked out some of the Croatian national news sites mostly to see the comments and get a pulse on the people. Oh, man! I'm starting to wish I was on social media, just to set some things straight.
Almost everyone is oblivious and just taking this lockdown for granted. Then you get a few people in there who know what's going on but they temd to sound like those American street preachers. It's hopeless.
Officials are saying we're getting linear virus spread and that this is due to the measures, which is contradicted by models that said you need at least 3 weeks to see any effects of lockdown, and we'd had linear growth from the outset pretty much. In fact they've been increasing the number of people tested so we're probably getting less and less actual new cases. They're saying once the number of new poitives starts to go down for a few days in a row, they will start slowly relaxing the measures, but they're obviously increasing testing to keep it going longer. People are getting fired en masse and we're heading for an economic catastrophe worse than what happened during and after the war here, but people still seem to expect things going back to normal more or less. Hopeless, I tell ya, hopeless. Where's that comet?

Yep. Economic pressure is whats driving the insecurity among many people, no need to be afraid of flu or corona virus. Social networks (FB and twatter) are how goverment IS spreading propaganda and I wouldnt look at them as a reality fact check at all. 10000 bots can make it look like theres people saying this and that but its fake.

I have a completely different impression btw. IvanPernarTv on youtube is a good example. On his last dozen videos there are 50 or more comments with 30 likes atleast and all are saying how this is a government spiel and fake af! He has atleats 50000 followers that are able to think for themselves! The truth is the strongest virus!
And as I said I even had a half a dozen surprising talks with complete strangers that see through all this. And the weather is sunny and clear, more cars on the streets, more people walking around too.
The PTBs are dumb and they overcalculated and people are not playing their fear-instilling game as they should.