Coronavirus Pandemic: Apocalypse Now! Or exaggerated scare story?

[Ruth]

I just find it interesting that this should come up right now. I am not buying the offer.

Some people are 'full of it' and they are the first to take advantage of fear and confusion, as well as a situation where lack of information adds to that confusion. What people need now is good solid information and clear vision - or at least as much as they can get in these uncertain times!

Not hocus pocus and snake oil. Although for some people, and in some instances, hocus pocus and snake oil can be very reassuring. Personally I just want more accurate information, not to lose myself in "New Age" mystic mumbo jumbo "spirituality", or to externalize my sense of hope outwards, in a desperate belief that someone 'out there' will save me. It's more likely that something within, or someone close to me will 'save the day'.

 

[Ruth]

I wonder if many/most of the more mainstream 'TV journalists' are not organic portals. They certainly don't seem very smart, especially if they try to demonstrate something that is only slightly technical or attempt basic high school math.

"Agents of the Matrix"? No really, it's not that far fetched! Just after WW2, the CIA started recruiting those in the information promulgation sphere.

They are great at parroting the official line though, it could also be that some journalists at the top are full-blown psychopaths.

Maybe some are, but my bet is that ALL their BOSSES are!

 

[Gaby]

They might be filming private hospitals as well. If I understand the situation correctly the emphasis was put on the public health sector almost in exclusivity.

I suppose it depends on the country's health care system. Most footage/photos available are from public hospitals and/or main health care systems, regardless of the country. There's action, for sure, but it is concentrated on those hospitals which have ICU units. And some regions are having it worse, others are seeing practically no action. On the other hand, they're hospitalizing a lot of mild cases as well.

 

[Revolucionar]

Yep. Economic pressure is whats driving the insecurity among many people, no need to be afraid of flu or corona virus. Social networks (FB and twatter) are how goverment IS spreading propaganda and I wouldnt look at them as a reality fact check at all. 10000 bots can make it look like theres people saying this and that but its fake.

I have a completely different impression btw. IvanPernarTv on youtube is a good example. On his last dozen videos there are 50 or more comments with 30 likes atleast and all are saying how this is a government spiel and fake af! He has atleats 50000 followers that are able to think for themselves! The truth is the strongest virus!
And as I said I even had a half a dozen surprising talks with complete strangers that see through all this. And the weather is sunny and clear, more cars on the streets, more people walking around too.
The PTBs are dumb and they overcalculated and people are not playing their fear-instilling game as they should.

You have a very optimistic perspective. 30 people on YT is nothing. There are certainly people who see through this charade, but the vast majority doesn't. They're still engaged in party politics discussion while the world is falling to pieces around them. I don't think that most of those FB folks are fakes, maybe a few. Btw, Ivan Pernar is first of all a limited hangout or even controlled opposition together with Zivi Zid. Also, he's not right in the head. I know this from first hand experience. Typical move by the PTB, have the guy who's telling the truth look like a schizo and you destroy any credibily the message might have had. He's in it for the money and will do anything to keep his position.

 

[Michael B-C]

Yes, it makes sense to me. Thanks for your effort in fleshing out this pattern.

In university I read a section of 'The Birth of Biopolitics' by Foucault. In it, he states the power of kings was to 'let live, and make die'. It was a long time ago, but from what I recall, the population was allowed to live as serfs, and only if they broke the law would the state intervene. However, biopolitics is a new regime with a different logic. Foucualt suggests that our current regime is to 'make live and let die'. In my view, what he meant by this is that the state realized it needed a certain degree of health of its captive population, just as a farmer needs a healthy herd for slaughter day. It's a balance - healthy enough to be eaten, but addicted to various poisons and numb in the mind so as to prevent the herd from sensing the farmer's true intentions.

What's more, Foucault also wrote that the bubonic plague changed the way states functioned. So many people died, it became fearful of its ability to extract from (or feed on) its herd. During the plague times, the population was 'forced to appear' at their windows to be counted. I could be misremembering here, but this could have been the birth of the first official census data. All because the farmer needed to know his losses, and needed to know the health of his herd.

There is a correlation between then and now - people are being 'forced to appear' in lots of ways, mostly through surveillance technologies. And the ID2020 information may be the next step in that. Mandatory health. Like gym class in high school - but for the rest of your life?

Great post iamthatis. One of the eventual bi-products of the devastation of the working population brought about by the plague was that labour became so scarce that the pendulum began to swing the other way with suddenly the old recipe of effective serfdom no longer applicable economically simply because demand and supply of labour was so out of kilter that the PTB had to start treating workers with some mild increase in respect-value because there weren't enough able bodied left to meet their economic needs. This situation became ingrained all the way up to our docile but superficially 'equal' access to resources age. But this period of applied game theory is now over. The rise of eugenics (useless eaters) has been burning away quietly for about 100 years now and we're back again to a cull solution coming our way whereby they need to drastically reduce the population the 'shared prosperity' has generated. To the psychopath this amount of largess was a periodically necessary adjustment but just has to stop and we're now well and truly in that phase (as the tech they needed - the Technocracy they dreamed of - has become enough of a reality to implement the 'plan'). Sustainable development always was short hand for massive reduction in human population. Long laid trails and plans designed to undermine the health and well being of the global population are having pressure points applied that will lead inexorably to the great cull, both by them and by nature combined.

 

[Ruth]

Laurs said:
In line with this: in Sweden a protest of migrants was allowed despite a ban on gatherings above 50 persons.

'The Swedish government on Tuesday afternoon allowed a large group of pro-Palestinian activists to protest outside of the migration office without a permit despite there being a ban on gatherings of 50 people or more.

Well, the Idiot Bureaucrats probably thought the migrants were putting their lives in danger! Rather than gaining solidarity by gathering in groups.

 

[Laurs]

Really finding the last few days hard going. Being only able to go out once a day is getting me down, and on a few occasions I've just thought "damn it, I'm going out for a walk anyway". Spoke to my younger brother on the phone today, he's the same, really finding this too much to handle. He lives alone so he's got it even worse than me.

We had a pleasant surprise this morning though; my Auntie popped round briefly with some food supplies, she's a good soul and a Christian woman. I've got to do the whole supermarket thing again tomorrow, and with my current downer mood I'm not looking forward to it. I'm also having trouble getting to sleep, despite my meds and melatonin. I get to sleep eventually but then I sleep late which in my household is a tad problematic.

Jeez, it's only been a few weeks, I just don't know how I'm going to adjust to this lasting for months!

Hi Slipnet, yes, this is a particular tough cookie, this situation we find ourselves in, one of the hardest ones yet i would say. Quite the test to see how we have developed desired abilities so far.

I noticed in myself that it would be easy to let feelings of hopelessness and despair just engulf me to bring only chaos and entropy inside the self. And i find it seems it is about making choices all the time between life-enhancing and entropy. Observing that the only thing we CAN control here is our attitude and thoughts and making use of tools like books and internet (i think it has to stay on as they want people to buy stuff on and do their online banking etc) to further gather knowledge and networking here in the Lighthouse where you have your brothers and sisters round the clock with warm hearts filled with love, wisdom and compassion and ears to listen. And of course a rock-steady trust and faith in the goodness of the universe.

So not try but DO sit back and enjoy the show and see how well all those people are playing the roles that they choose to play. After all, this is a 3D STS world and the people are in a default STS state. And it's really hard work to get out of here alive with our soul intact!
Hang in there Slipnet, you can do this.

 

[Ruth]

Now, I can't explain this, but I suddenly "saw" how there's most certainly a large group of 'operatives', thousands or maybe more, who's sole job is to follow all the discussions and post these things in order to influence the discussions. They get their orders and they execute them like robots, sitting in some weird bunker underground, or something.

I think we're witnessing a larger and more elaborate PSYOP than you could ever imagine, with thousands of 'operatives' manipulating us.

Yes, it's amazing what a little money will do. Like turn a whole bunch of nobodies into faceless, nameless, keyboarding prostitutes. The sad fact is, this is probably the only work they can get. Equally absurd is they probably think they are good at it.

 

[Jasophoria]

I can not keep up with this tread anymore.

As i already said, in the beginning of the global lock down, that i felt the collective panic.
I had that for 3 days, then i felt fine, until yesterday, it started again.
I just got the realisation, that the people that are awakening to the truth now have to swallow a realy BIG red pill, and its stuck in their throat.
Now most people are not afraid of the virus anymore, but of the truth.

 

[Laurs]

And here we have big business let's see how far we can go, agghhh too bad

'"We would like to wholeheartedly apologise. We have paid our landlords the rent for April."
Adidas, which made a net profit of nearly €2 billion in 2019, has been hard hit by a slump in Chinese sales and store closures around the world.

But it faced massive criticism when it emerged last week that the group was planning to suspend rent payments as it grapples with the fallout from the coronavirus crisis.

Similar announcements have also come from Swedish retailer H&M, Adidas rival Puma, shoe chain Deichmann and electronics retailers Saturn and Media Markt.

'Indecent'

The move comes after the German government unveiled a major rescue package to protect companies and jobs from the brutal economic impact of the pandemic.

It includes a provision that temporarily shields tenants from being kicked out of their homes or business premises if they experience financial hardship over the coronavirus measures.

But Germany's leading politicians urged financially sound companies not to take advantage of the situation, saying it showed a lack of solidarity at a time of crisis.

Finance Minister Olaf Scholz called the planned rent freezes by large retailers "irritating" while Justice Minister Christine Lambrecht said it was "indecent and unacceptable".'

https://www.thelocal.de/20200401/adidas-sorry-after-outrage-over-virus-rent-freeze

 

[Ina]

And here we have big business let's see how far we can go, agghhh too bad

'"We would like to wholeheartedly apologise. We have paid our landlords the rent for April."
Adidas, which made a net profit of nearly €2 billion in 2019, has been hard hit by a slump in Chinese sales and store closures around the world.

But it faced massive criticism when it emerged last week that the group was planning to suspend rent payments as it grapples with the fallout from the coronavirus crisis.

Similar announcements have also come from Swedish retailer H&M, Adidas rival Puma, shoe chain Deichmann and electronics retailers Saturn and Media Markt.

'Indecent'

The move comes after the German government unveiled a major rescue package to protect companies and jobs from the brutal economic impact of the pandemic.

It includes a provision that temporarily shields tenants from being kicked out of their homes or business premises if they experience financial hardship over the coronavirus measures.

But Germany's leading politicians urged financially sound companies not to take advantage of the situation, saying it showed a lack of solidarity at a time of crisis.

Finance Minister Olaf Scholz called the planned rent freezes by large retailers "irritating" while Justice Minister Christine Lambrecht said it was "indecent and unacceptable".'

https://www.thelocal.de/20200401/adidas-sorry-after-outrage-over-virus-rent-freeze

“In its letter, Adidas said it had taken several steps to stop the bleeding, including scrapping a share buy-back programme and slashing executive pay.“

When dirt cheap production is not forthcoming, keeping the status quo expenditure could be considered as ‘bleeding’.

 

[Laurs]

Yes, it seems that the coronacircus is used by the PTB to further the privileges of some minorities and the oppression of the majority.

It goes on and on:

'The Prison and Probation Service recently announced that it will release inmates who have a short period of time remaining on their sentences to limit the risk of infection in Norwegian prisons. Migrant inmates who are in the same situation will also be released onto the streets, daily Norwegian newspaper ITromø reports.
....
At the same time, ordinary people in Norway are prohibited from visiting their cottages until at least Easter, a measurement the government took to curb the virus’s spread.

Norway: Convicted criminal foreigners to be released on the streets while Norwegians banned from visiting cottages

The coronavirus has created anarcho-tyranny in some parts of Europe. In France, the police cannot enforce quarantine measures in its "no go zones" which are inhabited mostly by migrants. At the same time, French citizens who live in other areas are fined hundreds of euros for breaking quarantine.

voiceofeurope.com

 

[Aeneas]

Now in Spain the government will check everyone, EVERYONE, by mobile. Now we know why you need a mobile for everything, even old seniors for their bank accounts. This Plan is made since many years ago.

Same thing is happening in Switzerland. In the free papers I read the other day that the Swiss telegiant, Swisscom is working together with the government to track people via smartphones to see if people generally stick to the restrictions. It was written as the most natural thing to do in a democracy. So yes, the plan has been there globally since years as you say.

 

[N1mTzo]

Regarding the Russian military IL-76 (15 pieces) arrived in Italy. This is the thought I visited today: perhaps these planes transported gold (it is very heavy!) From the Russian reserve (2,290 tons as of March 2020, according to Wikipedia - Золотой резерв — Википедия).
Therefore, military aircraft were needed, because gold must be protected! And this Russian gold was exchanged for Italian money (euros, possibly a part in dollars and yuan). Russia needs the currency to maintain a stable ruble exchange rate. I saw the data (I can not vouch for their reliability) that Russia spends 13 billion rubles every day (if we take 80 rubles per dollar at the current rate, then 13 billion ~ 162.5 million US dollars). Even if these numbers are too high, in any case, Russia spends tens of millions in dollars and euros to maintain the ruble. These reserves are not infinite, they need to be replenished. Now is not the time when you can go and sell gold (hundreds of tons) in the market and buy currency to the rescue (this will collapse both the gold and the exchange rates). But no one has canceled barter transactions bypassing the market: I give you a gold plane, and you give me a euro plane.
This is my version of what is happening, I can not vouch for its authenticity.

I return to the coronovirus. Roadblocks have appeared on the roads in neighboring cities of my region, traffic is limited (trucks with food, medicine and other necessary things are allowed). In my city, roadblocks were also set up on the roads, but so far there are no people (police, military) on them - officially we do not have a single patient with coronovirus, therefore, we have not yet restricted traffic. In the city itself, the movement of people and wave is not limited. A lot of people sit at home, there are a lot of people in stores (and mostly these are old people!). Red stripes appeared 1.5 meters in front of the cash register to keep their distance. Masks go to 10% of the people that I saw. I was in the hospital (taking a prescription for a drug), it works. Nearby sat coughing and sneezing people, I'm fine.

 

[SevenFeathers]

Now we know why you need a mobile for everything, even old seniors for their bank accounts. This Plan is made since many years ago.

It's good you stopped taking your mobile out with you. I don't have a smart phone, just an old phone that makes calls only.

What will they do with people who don't have the smart phones? I read somewhere that they will be giving them to people during a tracking period, then take them back (supposedly) after all is well.