Over the last couple of days, I've been trying to reconcile two different things in my mind, namely the overwhelm of local hospitals and emergency systems (of NY/NJ area) versus the stories of underwhelm and even empty hospitals throughout elsewhere. If this was already addressed in this thread, forgive me but I haven't been able to keep up, but I wanted to add the observations that I've gathered from speaking to several nurses, emts, and paramedics that I know from the area.

One of my colleague took his kid to one central jersey hospital, he mentioned that MOST of the hospital is empty. It does looks like there are many variables.
 
*** Questions for a poll ***

OK, that didn't even take too long. Here are some suggestions:


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- How bad do you think COVID-19 really is?
A. It's very bad. Worse than most viruses we've experienced in the last 10 years.
B. It's worse than the flu, but there are many worse things out there.
C. It's about the same as the flu.
D. It's probably not even as bad as the flu.

- How many people do you personally know (not a friend of a friend's wife etc.) who have tested positive for COVID-19?

- How many people do you personally know
(not a friend of a friend's wife etc.) who have died from COVID-19?

- What do you think about the lockdown measures?

A. They should be stricter.
B. They are justified. I agree with them.
C. I agree with them to some extent, but they're also causing damage, so they shouldn't be in place for too long.
D. They're doing more harm than good and should be lifted as soon as possible.

- What do you think about the media's reporting on this crisis?
A. They aren't informing us enough about the dangers.
B. They are doing a good job reporting on the crisis.
C. They're doing mostly OK, but sometimes they are scaring people a bit too much.
D. They are over-hyping the threat and spreading panic.

- What do you think about the restrictions imposed on the people, limiting their freedoms, making them stay at home and keep a distance from other people?
A. The restrictions are necessary and should be in place for months to come.
B. They are needed to get through the worst but should be lifted as soon as possible.
C. They should have been recommended on a voluntary basis rather than made law. Making such restrictions mandatory is unacceptable.

- Do you think the lockdown, social distancing, wearing masks, and so on, have been successful in preventing many deaths?
A. Yes. We would see a lot more people die without these measures.
B. It has made a difference, but the difference isn't too large.
C. It hasn't been very successful and has caused harm in other ways.

- How significant do you think the negative fallout of the measures taken by governments will be?
A. Not very. Things will go back to normal soon.
B. Quite significant, but we will recover in a year or two.
C. Very significant. There will be a lot of damage, and things will not go back to normal anytime soon, if ever.
D. The damage will be massive, worse than the damage caused by the virus itself, things will not go back to normal, and people will suffer because of this for a long time.

- Are you afraid of getting the virus?
A. Yes.
B. No.
(No need to read the options, I think. Note down whatever they answer?)

- What do you think is the best way of protecting yourself from the virus?
(I wouldn't make options for this one. Let's just hear their opinions.)
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So these are some suggestions. Feel free to add whatever you think should be included or remove whatever doesn't feel right.

For the fallout question, if D is too much, you can maybe combine it with C into one answer and word it whatever way sounds best.

If you read the questions over the phone, the options may be a bit long, so you can let people answer on their own, and then read the answer(s) that seem the closest to what they said and ask if they more or less agree.
 
I'm being ridiculous with my little "important" question ! :-RÉ:-RÉ:-RÉ while it's important to know the proportion of people who accept containment my proposal was no help. Sorry
 
A friend of mine just shared this with me, I found it rather interesting, although it can’t help but see a form of scapegoating shaping up on the horizon, it was all China and Gates and they’re who to blame.

as far as the precedents established for the world, they don’t need the virus anymore, they can re open the economies as they’ve already learned how people will respond to an imaginary threat and how easy liberties are removed from the population.

Hello, received the same kind of news from a friend, here it is :


I'll review it more deeply later, but found useful to already post it.
 
Formulating the questions - I think I can do that much. Not organising anything or talking to people, though. I think I can get back with some questions later today.


I think it's up to everyone how they want to do it. I myself, being very asocial, would definitely not call random people, but then, I think that's actually how polls are done, so I don't see a problem there in general. People who are inclined to do so can do so, others can ask people they're more comfortable talking to, but another point is that if you ask just friends who have similar opinions to yours, the poll won't be very useful.


Uhhh......... I think we might need an editor! But I'll try to not ask questions like "Are you one of those idiots who think this lockdown bullshit was a brilliant idea?"


Lol asocial ok I said friends of friends but see your point at least this poll might be a real and not a Gallup pole where there really isn't much randomness and anyway people seem to be very free to give there opinion in supermarket cues perhaps there's a starter for a random poll.😀
 
Yes! This confinement is a sort of gulag. Nothing to compare with the Soviet Gulag, I don't mean that. But a sort of. Specially for latinos, that live on the streets, like to communicate with others, touch others, talk to others, you know what I mean. And the worst thing, that all clinics are closed, almost. You can not see your doctor. Not just clinics but everything Social, like everything concerning social aid, social problems, jobs, etc. So yes, we are in a sort of limbo, time does not exist anymore, like someone take out of us the future. We can just communicate by Internet, in front of a machine, we can not touch, kiss, smile to others. I mean grosso modo. I continue to smile to others but very seldom because there is so few people on the streets....

Very important to write a diary! for future generations. If future generations will know how to read, that's another story naturally.
Probably not a gulag, as that was brutal, however, I would like to point out that even in the darkest times of Communism, at least in Romania, going to Church on Easter was not banned. It was frowned upon, people might have reported you for going, but you could still have gone. Now you can't.
Even in Canada, you can still go to the liquor and even cannabis store, as this is considered essential, but not to Church.
One has to wonder what this means on a spiritual plane...
 
Removed from YouTube 😷
It was nice @Bernardo had included the Youtube information, though I had difficulties finding the title of the video which along with the date of publishing, and even the name of the channel sometimes can help one locate alternative sources.


Below are recent videos which include Judy Mikovits
Coronavirus What You Should Know with Judy Mikovitis PhD from Healthmade 55:06, Feb 24, 2020

FTW Live w/ Researcher Judy Mikovits (LIVE) from framingtheworld 2:29:08, (no date)

Dr. Judy Mikovits (American Researcher) on Coronavirus from framingtheworld 1:58:04 April 5, 2020

Plague of Corruption (Dr. Judy Mikovits) from framingtheworld 55:58, April 15, 2020

Coronavirus Roundtable With Dr. Buttar & Dr. Mikovits - How Your System Is Being Used Against You from The Last American Vagabond 1:36:48 19 Apr, 2020

Fortunately more and more video channels are posting on alternative services.

Issues when posting embedded material - sometimes it is lost
The problem with embedded material is that if it is taken down, it is gone with title and images, thus leaving the post both with much less meaning, but also aesthetically reduced by the grey tube image, something I recently became aware of when looking up an old tread I had made. Perhaps one could make it a habit when posting a video with serious information to include enough details for those who read later to search clues, pretty much like one would if referring to a book. A remedy might be to do a screen dump of a video image, post it as a picture and then put a hyperlink below the picture. Above, I only put the links below the title of the video.


Using other search engines to help find (lost) material
In case one can not find what one is looking for using one search engine, which may downlist material according to its policies one could try a other search engines.
 
Until they rebel, I guess there's no choice. I wonder if it will be the more senior and more at risk members of our community who rebel first?
Many of us have been rebelling for years. We need to pass the baton. A general uprising against wrong thinking and status quo is a good place to start. Until it personally effects a person, they think it's all good.
 
I speak as much French as the average squirrel. In what context did they mentioned Sott.net? In a negative sense or did they refer to us in a positive daylight? I’m curious. Thanks for sharing the video! 🙂

Bonjour Bjorn! They talked about Sott in a positive light. Said people had to go there if they wanted informations about mandatory vaccines, the COVID 1984, quantum tatoo and so on.
 
I saw it on Joes FB page and is imo some shocking news and something many of us feared: That the consequences of the global shutdown socially and economically will take it's toll. Well, it doesn't look good. The ones that should be protected will be suffering even more.

U.N. warns economic downturn could kill hundreds of thousands of children in 2020

And all this is happening because of lies.

Adding to that the US unemployment stats exploded in just one month:


This is indeed depressing.

Well, it can get even worse than that. David Beasley from the UN said that 256 million people can starve because of corona.

Governments must act now to stop 265 million starving, warns World Food Programme boss.

The world is facing widespread famine “of biblical proportions” because of the coronavirus pandemic, the chief of the UN’s food relief agency has warned, with a short time to act before hundreds of millions starve.

More than 30 countries in the developing world could experience widespread famine, and in 10 of those countries there are already more than 1 million people on the brink of starvation, said David Beasley, executive director of the World Food Programme.

“We are not talking about people going to bed hungry,” he told the Guardian in an interview. “We are talking about extreme conditions, emergency status – people literally marching to the brink of starvation. If we don’t get food to people, people will die.”


 
I don't know for sure, but I'd say that death tolls every year from the flu are higher in certain areas for various reasons. The overall numbers of deaths from covid this year are about 25% of estimated yearly flu deaths, but of course we haven't finished this year yet.

Plus, that's comparing the total number of all deaths everywhere, whereas so far, only certain select cities and regions are particularly affected. It makes more sense to compare a single region to itself. Hypothetically, if a virus only strikes a single city, it doesn't make sense to compare those numbers to a virus that pops up in all cities. In the U.S., for example, rural areas have very few Covid-19 cases, but some big cities have a lot. So the best source of comparative data would be those very cities and/or regions. That's what I've tried to do so far in my posts on the numbers. It seems that in big cities/regions that are hard hit (e.g., Bergamo, London, NYC), whatever is going on is at least 2x, and up to 8x worse than any flu season in recent memory. For small towns and rural areas, it is much less than an average flu season.

For example, as I showed in a recent post, in the past 25 years, the worst month of mortality in NYC was in January 1999, which was the peak of the flu season for that year. An average of 218 people died in the city daily of all causes. Over the past three weeks in New York, at least 367 people have died every day, and that's just those attributed to Covid-19, so total mortality is probably something higher than that. (That's assuming that they haven't been ascribing EVERY death to Covid-19, which is unlikely. But even if they have, the current overall mortality rate is about twice what NYC experiences at the peak of an average flu season.)

Here's a graph from the NYT that shows total mortality for NYC over the past 20 years. I can't verify the 9780 figure, because I can't find current total mortality figures for the past month - just mortality allegedly related to Covid-19. But it's similar to the graphs posted earlier in this thread for Bergamo:


Since symptoms of covid-19 are similar to those of other 'seasonal viruses', It will be interesting to see if the number of flu deaths this year is down significantly. Then again, that is problematic in that flu deaths every year are "estimated", because almost no one who dies from "complications from the flu" is tested for a virus, mainly because the vast majority that die have one or more pre-existing chronic illnesses that are used as the cause of death.

For Italy, this last flu season, which usually peaks in February, was relatively mild - below average, which was reflected in overall mortality. Overall mortality seems to be a good indicator of how bad any given flu season is, as far as I can tell. In NYC, this last flu season was on par with the one a couple years ago. Flu season usually peaks in January in NYC. For example, here's the ILI tracker for NYC, showing the peaks of past flu seasons, with the Covid spike directly after the January peak:
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Here's respiratory illness:
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If you go to the link you can change the metric to 'average ratio' which shows the ratio of the above cases that required emergency room services. Here are the graphs for ILI followed by respiratory:
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