I'm being ridiculous with my little "important" question ! :-RÉ:-RÉ:-RÉ while it's important to know the proportion of people who accept containment my proposal was no help. Sorry
Hi mamibio!
yes, your question is among the ones in the poll. See here:
- What do you think about the lockdown measures?
A. They should be stricter.
B. They are justified. I agree with them.
C. I agree with them to some extent, but they're also causing damage, so they shouldn't be in place for too long.
D. They're doing more harm than good and should be lifted as soon as possible.
 
So this sillyness is likely to continue for a while and I think that the 1.5m rule will probably continue after May 19th.

One thing that occurred to me about this lockdown and measures - some critical experts have pointed out that never have *healthy* people been put into quarantine. Yet other critical voices have said that "if it really was that bad, maybe the lockdown would have been justified". But this doesn't make sense at all.

Think about it: if there really was a killer pandemic, people would totally put themselves into self-quarantine without needing any laws or state intervention. They would probably be so paranoid that the state would tell them not to freak out too much! If anything, the state would impose a quarantine on the sick. This is what has been done historically.

So the reason why we have this lockdown is that people are not afraid, because there isn't anything to be afraid of, and so the state needs to apply force and propaganda. And the only reason why the state would do such a thing I can think of is a) to further the authoritarian agenda and/or b) to stop the virus for other reasons than the danger to the population.
 
*** Questions for a poll ***

OK, that didn't even take too long. Here are some suggestions:


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- How bad do you think COVID-19 really is?
A. It's very bad. Worse than most viruses we've experienced in the last 10 years.
B. It's worse than the flu, but there are many worse things out there.
C. It's about the same as the flu.
D. It's probably not even as bad as the flu.

- How many people do you personally know (not a friend of a friend's wife etc.) who have tested positive for COVID-19?

- How many people do you personally know
(not a friend of a friend's wife etc.) who have died from COVID-19?

- What do you think about the lockdown measures?

A. They should be stricter.
B. They are justified. I agree with them.
C. I agree with them to some extent, but they're also causing damage, so they shouldn't be in place for too long.
D. They're doing more harm than good and should be lifted as soon as possible.

- What do you think about the media's reporting on this crisis?
A. They aren't informing us enough about the dangers.
B. They are doing a good job reporting on the crisis.
C. They're doing mostly OK, but sometimes they are scaring people a bit too much.
D. They are over-hyping the threat and spreading panic.

- What do you think about the restrictions imposed on the people, limiting their freedoms, making them stay at home and keep a distance from other people?
A. The restrictions are necessary and should be in place for months to come.
B. They are needed to get through the worst but should be lifted as soon as possible.
C. They should have been recommended on a voluntary basis rather than made law. Making such restrictions mandatory is unacceptable.

- Do you think the lockdown, social distancing, wearing masks, and so on, have been successful in preventing many deaths?
A. Yes. We would see a lot more people die without these measures.
B. It has made a difference, but the difference isn't too large.
C. It hasn't been very successful and has caused harm in other ways.

- How significant do you think the negative fallout of the measures taken by governments will be?
A. Not very. Things will go back to normal soon.
B. Quite significant, but we will recover in a year or two.
C. Very significant. There will be a lot of damage, and things will not go back to normal anytime soon, if ever.
D. The damage will be massive, worse than the damage caused by the virus itself, things will not go back to normal, and people will suffer because of this for a long time.

- Are you afraid of getting the virus?
A. Yes.
B. No.
(No need to read the options, I think. Note down whatever they answer?)

- What do you think is the best way of protecting yourself from the virus?
(I wouldn't make options for this one. Let's just hear their opinions.)
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So these are some suggestions. Feel free to add whatever you think should be included or remove whatever doesn't feel right.

For the fallout question, if D is too much, you can maybe combine it with C into one answer and word it whatever way sounds best.

If you read the questions over the phone, the options may be a bit long, so you can let people answer on their own, and then read the answer(s) that seem the closest to what they said and ask if they more or less agree.

If there are no major additions or revisions by tomorrow morning, I'll set it up as a form in pdf format and upload it so everyone who wants to help can download and print copies for however many interviews you are willing to do.

Just remember, we WANT this information because we are NOT getting accurate information via the media. This is one way to really find out what people are thinking. We can't rely on social media to tell us that because it is loaded with trolls and sockpuppets. So if we can get out there and extract some real data, it will help a lot. At least we will know where we really stand.

And heck, it is certainly something positive to be doing for those who are stuck at home without a lot going on.
 
Think about it: if there really was a killer pandemic, people would totally put themselves into self-quarantine without needing any laws or state intervention. They would probably be so paranoid that the state would tell them not to freak out too much! If anything, the state would impose a quarantine on the sick. This is what has been done historically.

Yes, good points, luc. What you wrote makes me wonder: What happens when a real killer pandemic hits somewhere in the next two - or so - years? Would people put themselves into self-quarantine and the PTB will start freaking out, because it wouldn't be according to their plan (or another economic downfall wouldn't be according to their plan)? And would they, in that situation, use MSM and social media to tell people they can just continue on with their daily lives - but if they do, would that not raise many eyebrows as people think back to the covid-19 situation? Of course, it's possible that they welcome any pandemic with open arms as they get to impose all kinds of regulations. Well, just some thoughts. 🤔
 
One thing that occurred to me about this lockdown and measures - some critical experts have pointed out that never have *healthy* people been put into quarantine. Yet other critical voices have said that "if it really was that bad, maybe the lockdown would have been justified". But this doesn't make sense at all.

Think about it: if there really was a killer pandemic, people would totally put themselves into self-quarantine without needing any laws or state intervention. They would probably be so paranoid that the state would tell them not to freak out too much! If anything, the state would impose a quarantine on the sick. This is what has been done historically.

So the reason why we have this lockdown is that people are not afraid, because there isn't anything to be afraid of, and so the state needs to apply force and propaganda. And the only reason why the state would do such a thing I can think of is a) to further the authoritarian agenda and/or b) to stop the virus for other reasons than the danger to the population.

Yeah. Compare the current situation with the 1968 Hong Kong flu (1 million deaths). Not only the media treated it lightly, but so did the people:

(MSM article) When Europe didn't care about epidemics...

The 1968 flu killed a million people, with general indifference. How and why, fifty years apart, is society reacting in diametrically opposed ways to the danger of an epidemic?

1969. Europe has its eyes riveted on the Vietnam War, the Biafra disaster, the upheavals of May 68, man's first steps on the Moon. In the frenzy of the "Trente Glorieuses", the Old Continent could not let a virus come and spoil the atmosphere. It therefore turned its eyes away from the hospitals and their share of misery. And yet, these hospitals are counting the dead.

The fault lies with the Hong Kong flu, also known as the '68 flu, the year it appeared in Asia. At the end of 1968, the virus arrived in the United States, killing more than 50,000 people in three months. At the beginning of 1969, it invaded Europe and took a summer break before causing a massacre at the turn of 1969-1970: 35,000 deaths in France in two months. It did not spare Great Britain and even crossed the Iron Curtain.

Quoted by the daily newspaper Libération in an article written in 2005, a doctor from Nice remembers: "People arrived on stretchers, in a catastrophic state. They were dying of pulmonary haemorrhage, their lips cyanotic, all grey. There was no time to get the dead out. They were crammed into a room at the back of the ICU. And then we'd take them out when we could, during the day, at night."

The '68 flu kills about a million people, according to WHO estimates, and thus takes its place on the macabre podium of the 20th century's most deadly flues, after the "Spanish flu" (20 to 40 million deaths in 1918-1920) and the "Asian flu" (2 million deaths in 1957).

"The last Christmas present"

Yet neither the authorities, the public nor the media cared. On the contrary, the tone is light, even jolly: "A TV news presenter talks about the '68 flu as the last Christmas present that made millions sick and some dead," says medical historian Bernardino Fantini. The press is no exception.

Reactions in the extreme opposite of those of today, where news is dissected, relayed, sometimes crushed in the machine to the lies of social networks. These are all anxiety-provoking factors that did not exist in 1969. Georges, a 78-year-old Valaisan, recalls: "We had no specific recommendations and no statistics on the number of deaths from the authorities. It was the good old days when even the imminent dangers went unnoticed by the common man."

"Even the deaths of the elderly became a scandal."

How can such a social transformation be explained in the space of fifty years, when we move from carelessness to collective terror? Certainly, it was a virulent flu, not an unknown virus, and its speed of spread was slower. But these two episodes nevertheless reveal profound changes in our relationship with death, control and individualism. "This change in social attitudes is primarily linked to life expectancy," explains Bernardino Fantini. At the time, people over 65 were considered survivors of natural mortality. Today, even the death of the elderly has become a scandal."

The right to health, affirmed in 1948 by the WHO, gained this status in the 1980s," he says. It is felt to be a personal right and must therefore be guaranteed by the state. Whereas in previous centuries, death was accepted: people died in war, they died for God, no one had a problem with it."

At most, human beings were looking for the causes of disease... Bernardino Fantini has listed the various causes put forward by our medieval ancestors to explain the Black Death: divine punishment, of course, but also the stars - a bad conjunction of Mars and Venus -, putrid zones, the vengeance of enemies, contact with animals, which would lead to the persecution of cats. But despite the search for culprits, fatalism remains a refuge.

The Enlightenment extinguishes fatalism


The dispute between Rousseau and Voltaire over the Lisbon earthquake is revealing," recalls Dominique Bourg, philosopher and honorary professor at the University of Lausanne. By refusing fatalism, Rousseau prefigures modernity. Modernity is becoming a permanent feature of post-war Western society."

The movement is also supported by the advent of antibiotics after the Second World War. "Before that, tuberculosis and other diseases were considered fatal because they were incurable," explains Bernardino Fantini. Smallpox during epidemics killed two out of five children. Death came at any age."

In a few years, the perspective changes completely. You go from resignation to overconfidence. The turning point was 1979, when the WHO declared smallpox eradicated. From then on, humans felt that they were capable of defeating disease. A profession of faith that HIV will undermine, then Ebola. The coronavirus is the last nail in the coffin of this illusion.

Yet society refuses to rethink its relationship to death. "After the war, with the disappearance of infant mortality and the increase in comfort, the West is gradually developing the idea of a guaranteed existence capital," explains Dominique Bourg. We think that only the carelessness of others can lead you to ruin this capital."

Hence the very strong governmental reactions that impose lockdown. Is it the consequence of an unprecedented imperative in the history of mankind: to save everyone? Criticizing liberalism, the philosopher doubts it and warns: "In the 1990s, a cynicism also appeared, claiming that a part of humanity could disappear without damage. Neo-liberalism is total Darwinism. If the neoliberal and populist wave spreads, this vision could prevail within a few years."

We're not there yet. But already, voices are being raised to ensure that the consequences of economic collapse will be more deadly than the virus.

"Our age no longer tolerates failure, offense, or obstacles."

Enzo Santacroce, a liberal philosophy teacher in a Waldensian gymnasium, sees lockdown as an almost Promethean ambition: "These prudent measures are the result of pride in remaining in control, in wanting to eradicate death and suffering from the human condition, realities that are intolerable today, but which were still tolerable in 1968. Even if this means putting the economy on the back burner, as if in penance.

This is all the more difficult in this century of "perpetual euphoria", a thesis by Pascal Bruckner, as the professor reminds us: "Our era can no longer tolerate failure, offence or obstacles. From the Enlightenment, which thought that happiness on earth was possible, we have moved on to the imperative of being happy. The coronavirus is a blow of fate experienced as an offence."

We feel that, in addition to health concerns, there is a deeper anxiety, perhaps stemming from this threat to a happiness that we thought we had taken for granted. "It is then necessary to remember, with Blaise Pascal, that there is greatness in recognising that one is small, and that the threat can also lead to finding resources," Enzo Santacroce concludes. From a contemporary illusion that is coming to an end could resurface a philosophical response that is too quickly forgotten.
 
It was nice @Bernardo had included the Youtube information, though I had difficulties finding the title of the video which along with the date of publishing, and even the name of the channel sometimes can help one locate alternative sources.
Below are recent videos which include Judy Mikovits
Coronavirus What You Should Know with Judy Mikovitis PhD from Healthmade 55:06, Feb 24, 2020
FTW Live w/ Researcher Judy Mikovits (LIVE) from framingtheworld 2:29:08, (no date)
Dr. Judy Mikovits (American Researcher) on Coronavirus from framingtheworld 1:58:04 April 5, 2020
Plague of Corruption (Dr. Judy Mikovits) from framingtheworld 55:58, April 15, 2020
Coronavirus Roundtable With Dr. Buttar & Dr. Mikovits - How Your System Is Being Used Against You from The Last American Vagabond 1:36:48 19 Apr, 2020
Fortunately more and more video channels are posting on alternative services.

Issues when posting embedded material - sometimes it is lost
The problem with embedded material is that if it is taken down, it is gone with title and images, thus leaving the post both with much less meaning, but also aesthetically reduced by the grey tube image, something I recently became aware of when looking up an old tread I had made. Perhaps one could make it a habit when posting a video with serious information to include enough details for those who read later to search clues, pretty much like one would if referring to a book. A remedy might be to do a screen dump of a video image, post it as a picture and then put a hyperlink below the picture. Above, I only put the links below the title of the video.
Using other search engines to help find (lost) material
In case one can not find what one is looking for using one search engine, which may downlist material according to its policies one could try a other search engines.
The video called "FTW Live w/ Researcher Judy Mikovits (LIVE)" (above) looks like it includes the same interview material as the one that @Bernardo had posted and @liam1310 noted was removed.

The title of the removed video was called "Dr. Judy Mikovits, PhD about COVID-19 masks, pandemia, vaccines and transmitting disease" and I noticed it was gone today when I went to listen. I happened to have downloaded it last night, but I suppose that I don't I need to upload it anywhere for now since there is that similar one still available at the moment.
 
LOL!

I do think that RANDOM cold calls give the best poll results.
[snip]
It's probably best NOT to use people you know. Not scientific.
It occurred to me that some people might not trust who's on the other end of the phone - in this time of paranoia. They may want proof of ID from the caller? Also, do you need a permit to conduct a poll?

In addition, when it comes to polls (pointed out recently by YouTubers in particular as it relates to political polls), they rely on polling a certain demographic. I.E only those people who have home phone lines. Thus they tend to miss out on input from on-line or cell phones users. Will that skew the results?

As this thing is global, it could generate huge amounts of information that then has to be centrally processed and collated.

Sounds like a big job. Um, probably a complete understatement. :shock: I guess it depends on how much information you want and how quickly.
 
This is an interesting take on the China/Us slanging match from Pepe Escobar saying that it is a diversion by the US. and that they (the US) knew earlier than they are letting on about a virus. Not sure what to make of it but he calls it a smoking gun,. I have got to admit I'm beginning to get dates a bit mixed up now with all the conflicting information. Hope it's not noise.

by Pepe Escobar for the Saker Blog (cross posted with the Strategic Culture Foundation)

Hybrid War 2.0 on China, a bipartisan U.S. operation, is already reaching fever pitch. Its 24/7 full spectrum infowar arm blames China for everything coronavirus-related – doubling as a diversionist tactic against any informed criticism of woeful American unpreparedness.
Hysteria predictably reigns. And this is just the beginning.
A deluge of lawsuits is imminent – such as the one in the Southern District of Florida entered by Berman Law Group (linked to the Democrats) and Lucas-Compton (linked to the Republicans). In a nutshell: China has to shell out tons of cash. To the tune of at least $1.2 trillion, which happens to be – by surrealist irony – the amount of U.S. Treasury bills held by Beijing, all the way to $20 trillion, claimed by a lawsuit in Texas.
The prosecution’s case, as Scott Ritter memorably reminded us, is straight out of Monty Python. It works exactly like this:
“If she weighs the same as a duck…
…she’s made of wood!”
“And therefore…”
“A witch!!!!!”
In Hybrid War 2.0 terms, the current CIA-style narrative translates as evil China never telling us, the civilized West, there was a terrible new virus around. If they did, we would have had time to prepare.
And yet they lied and cheated – by the way, trademark CIA traits, according to Mike “We Lie, We Cheat, We Steal” Pompeo himself. And they hid everything. And they censored the truth. So they wanted to infect us all. Now they have to pay for all the economic and financial damage we are suffering, and for all our dead people. It’s China’s fault.
All this sound and fury forces us to refocus back to late 2019 to check out what U.S. intel really knew then about what would later be identified as Sars-Cov-2.
“No such product exists”
The gold standard remains the ABC News report according to which intel collected in November 2019 by the National Center for Medical Intelligence (NCMI), a subsidiary of the Pentagon’s Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA), was already warning about a new virulent contagion getting out of hand in Wuhan, based on “detailed analysis of intercepted communications and satellite imagery”.
An unnamed source told ABC, “analysts concluded it could be a cataclysmic event”, adding the intel was “briefed multiple times” to the DIA, the Pentagon’s Joint Chiefs of Staff, and even the White House.
No wonder the Pentagon was forced to issue the proverbial denial – in Pentagonese, via one Col. R. Shane Day, the director of the DIA’s NCMI: “In the interest of transparency during this current public health crisis, we can confirm that media reporting about the existence/release of a National Center for Medical Intelligence Coronavirus-related product/assessment in November of 2019 is not correct. No such NCMI product exists.”
Well, if such “product” existed, Pentagon head and former Raytheon lobbyist Mark Esper would be very much in the loop. He was duly questioned about it by ABC’s George Stephanopoulos.
Question: “Did the Pentagon receive an intelligence assessment on COVID in China last November from the National Center for Medical Intelligence of DIA?”
Esper: “Oh, I can’t recall, George,” (…) “But, we have many people who watch this closely.”
Question: “This assessment was done in November, and it was briefed to the NSC in early December to assess the impact on military readiness, which, of course, would make it important to you, and the possible spread in the United States. So, you would have known if there was a brief to the National Security Council in December, wouldn’t you?”
Esper: “Yes (…) “I’m not aware of that.”
So “no such product exists” then? Is it a fake? Is it a Deep State/CIA concoction to trap Trump? Or are the usual suspects lying, trademark CIA style?
Let’s review some essential background. On November 12, a married couple from Inner Mongolia was admitted to a Beijing hospital, seeking treatment for pneumonic plague.
The Chinese CDC, on Weibo – the Chinese Twitter – told public opinion that the chances of this being a new plague were “extremely low.” The couple was quarantined.
Four days later, a third case of pneumonic plague was identified: a man also from Inner Mongolia, not related to the couple. Twenty-eight people who were in close contact with the man were quarantined. None had plague symptoms. Pneumonic plague has symptoms of respiratory failure similar to pneumonia.
Even though the CDC repeated, “there is no need to worry about the risk of infection”, of course there was plenty of skepticism. The CDC may have publicly confirmed on November 12 these cases of pneumonic plague. But then Li Jifeng, a doctor at Chaoyang Hospital where the trio from Inner Mongolia was receiving treatment, published, privately, on WeChat, that they were first transported to Beijing actually on November 3.
The key point of Li Jinfeng’s post – later removed by censors – was when she wrote, “I am very familiar with diagnosing and treating the majority of respiratory diseases (…) But this time, I kept on looking but could not figure out what pathogen caused the pneumonia. I only thought it was a rare condition and did not get much information other than the patients’ history.”
Even if that was the case, the key point is that the three Inner Mongolian cases seem to have been caused by a detectable bacteria. Covid-19 is caused by the Sars-Cov-2 virus, not a bacteria. The first Sars-Covid-2 case was only detected in Wuhan in mid to late December. And it was only last month that Chinese scientists were able to positively trace back the first real case of Sars-Cov-2 to November 17 – a few days after the Inner Mongolian trio.
Knowing exactly where to look
It’s out of the question that U.S. intel, in this case the NCMI, was unaware of these developments in China, considering CIA spying and the fact these discussions were in the open on Weibo and WeChat. So if the NCMI “product” is not a fake and really exists, it only found evidence, still in November, of some vague instances of pneumonic plague.
Thus the warning – to the DIA, the Pentagon, the National Security Council, and even the White House – was about that. It could not possibly have been about coronavirus.
The burning question is inevitable: how could the NCMI possibly know all about a viral pandemic, still in November, when Chinese doctors positively identified the first cases of a new type of pneumonia only on December 26?
Add to it the intriguing question of why the NCMI was so interested in this particular flu season in China in the first place – from plague cases treated in Beijing to the first signs of a “mysterious pneumonia outbreak” in Wuhan.
There may have been subtle hints of slightly increased activity at clinics in Wuhan in late November and early December. But at the time nobody – Chinese doctors, the government, not to mention U.S. intel – could have possibly known what was really happening.
China could not be “covering up” what was only identified as a new disease on December 30, duly communicated to the WHO. Then, on January 3, the head of the American CDC, Robert Redfield, called the top Chinese CDC official. Chinese doctors sequenced the virus. And only on January 8 it was determined this was Sars-Cov-2 – which provokes Covid-19.
This chain of events reopens, once again, a mighty Pandora’s box. We have the quite timely Event 201; the cozy relationship between the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation and the WHO, as well as the Word Economic Forum and the Johns Hopkins galaxy in Baltimore, including the Bloomberg School of Public Health; the ID2020 digital ID/vaccine combo; Dark Winter – which simulated a smallpox bio-attack on the U.S., before the 2001 anthrax attack being blamed on Iraq; U.S. Senators dumping stocks after a CDC briefing; more than 1,300 CEOs abandoning their cushy perches in 2019, “forecasting” total market collapse; the Fed pouring helicopter money already in September 2019 – as part of QE4.
And then, validating the ABC News report, Israel steps in. Israeli intel confirms U.S. intel did in fact warn them in November about a potentially catastrophic pandemic in Wuhan (once again: how could they possibly know that on the second week of November, so early in the game?) And NATO allies were warned – in November – as well.
The bottom line is explosive: the Trump administration as well as the CDC had an advance warning of no less than four months – from November to March – to be properly prepared for Covid-19 hitting the U.S. And they did nothing. The whole “China is a witch!” case is debunked.
Moreover, the Israeli disclosure supports what’s nothing less than extraordinary: U.S. intel already knew about Sars-Cov-2 roughly one month before the first confirmed cases detected by doctors in a Wuhan hospital. Talk about divine intervention.
That could only have happened if U.S. intel knew, for sure, about a previous chain of events that would necessarily lead to the “mysterious outbreak” in Wuhan. And not only that: they knew exactly where to look. Not in Inner Mongolia, not in Beijing, not in Guangdong province.
It’s never enough to repeat the question in full: how could U.S. intel have known about a contagion one month before Chinese doctors detected an unknown virus?
Mike “We Lie, We Cheat, We Steal” Pompeo may have given away the game when he said, on the record, that Covid-19 was a “live exercise”. Adding to the ABC News and Israeli reports, the only possible, logical conclusion is that the Pentagon – and the CIA – knew ahead of time a pandemic would be inevitable.
That’s the smokin’ gun. And now the full weight of the United States government is covering all bases by proactively, and retroactively, blaming China.

The Essential Saker II
 
The dreams were not scary, but it always ended up as I am fighting with something or someone. Sometimes It was my mother, some other people. Basically a usual dream but with a very nervous and aggressive reaction by me at the end of the dream. And then I would start to yell, scream kick with my arms and legs until I wake up, tired and upset. Even my son joked with me every evening by asking me with who am i going to fight tonight. And those nightmares were so exhausting that I feel so tired in the morning.

For years I have had people ask me what I am fighting during my sleep. Funny though, I can't remember what I was fighting.

Since being a part of this group, my options for reason to fight during sleep seem to be many.
 
News from Uruguay about Coronavirus, some data collected from Portal TNU:

Larrañaga called for responsible mobility: "The country is still in a health emergency"
The Minister of the Interior expressed the government's concern about what he considers to be "a slackening" of the population in the face of the health measures to combat COVID-19.

Larrañaga called for responsible mobility: "The country is still in a health emergency"
The Minister of the Interior expressed the government's concern about what he considers to be "a slackening" of the population in the face of the health measures to combat COVID-19.
Date: 21/04/2020

Here in Uruguay, quarantine is not mandatory, but through the media it is recommended to the extent of "Stay at home".
But people can go to the rambla, to the parks, even at Easter many people went on holiday:-D and this is why Minister Larrañaga in a press conference referred to that we must be "responsible".:halo:

Further steps to deepen the care followed:

The use of masks in supermarkets will be mandatory from this Wednesday
The government announced the mandatory use of mouthpieces for customers and employees of supermarkets. In addition to the measure taken in public transport, the use of masks in public spaces is now widespread as a measure to prevent the spread of COVID-19.

Students follow their courses through the Internet, primary, secondary and tertiary, called Virtual Classroom. But here is this news:

More than 500 rural schools resumed classes
The Counselor of Initial and Primary Education, Hector Florit, detailed the way of working that will be implemented from this Wednesday.

Date: 22/04/2020

The schools, distributed in 18 departments of the country, receive less than 30 students supported by a health protocol agreed between education and health authorities and teachers.

This is official data:

Health emergency
Status report on the coronavirus COVID-19 in Uruguay from 4/21/20
April 21, 2020

Last update: 21/4/20 - 20 h
According to the last survey, there are 543 confirmed positive cases of COVID-19 Coronavirus in the whole country. Of this total, 324 have already recovered and 207 are in the process of being treated.

Since the publication of the last situation report yesterday, April 20, at 8:00 pm, two deaths were recorded. An Argentine citizen, resident of Maldonado, who died last night, and a 69-year-old patient from Montevideo, who died this morning. Both were in intensive care. So far there are 12 deaths from COVID-19 Coronavirus in Uruguay.

Currently, out of the 207 people who are suffering from the disease, 10 are in intensive care and none in intermediate care.

From the total of confirmed positive cases, 90 correspond to health personnel. Fifty-three of them have already recovered and 37 are undergoing treatment.

The departments with confirmed cases to date are Canelones, Colonia, Durazno, Lavalleja, Maldonado, Montevideo, Río Negro, Salto and San José.

Regarding the number of tests, 527 were processed today, with 516 negative and 11 positive results.

Since March 13, the day the health emergency was declared, 13,923 tests have been processed, with 13,310 negative and 613 positive results.

This news left us a little impressed:

A Fray Bentos UTEC team developed an environment sterilizer to eliminate the coronavirus
The device, which uses ultraviolet radiation, costs $1,200, but the aim is to lower its cost so that hospitals can have this technology. We spoke with Lucas Baldezzari, professor at UTEC in Fray Bentos and head of the project.

Date: 21/04/2020

Here is the transcript for those who do not understand Spanish:

"The Anglo, the great kitchen of the world, during the first and second world wars, a world heritage site since 2015, was transformed from a food factory, into a knowledge factory, this is approved from the development by engineers of the University of Technology, Fray Bentos subsidiary, of a device that allows to eliminate the presence of the Covid-19 virus and that they are willing to build on a scale so that the hospitals of Uruguay can count on this technology".

"We have developed a device which, by means of ultraviolet radiation, is capable of disinfecting those environments which have been exposed to different pathogens. As I was saying, SarCov-2 is one of them, the famous one which is wreaking havoc, the Covid-19.
The principle of operation, ultraviolet radiation, and where the light reaches, with a particular dose, that dose has to happen a certain amount of time. Once the indicated dose reaches the surface or in the air itself, it can inactivate at the RNA level, particularly this virus, and inactivate it completely.
The interesting thing is that in our region, there is no equipment with this versatility, with this handling, with this type of security that we have in place, and that is where the mark is.

"This device had a cost between one thousand and 1,200 dollars, but depending on the collaboration that the University of Fray Bentos can receive at a business level, the cost can go down and the production can be accelerated to a device in less than 48 hours"

"It took us 72 hours, because it was completely
craft, as I mentioned in another note.
How will it change if we receive support from any company?
In that this will be done much faster, in a much more professional way than it already is. Well, it's not the same as us cutting by hand, or having everything laser cut. For instance, drilling holes in the exact place where the metal-mechanical equipment can tell, then we come, we assemble the equipment, we assemble the electronics, we do the test and we can say, this equipment is functional, it complies with the standards under the protocols we set up and it can be used in health systems".

Info TNU- Río Negro.

Here's the video:


Well, it doesn't look good on the light handling thing. Perhaps the crown is an excuse to continue implementing measures that do more harm than good to the population. This is my little coronavirus signal from Uruguay.
 
I'm not dismissing your points, but I have to wonder if you have every talked to any nurses in your area during previous bad flu seasons when hospitals were inundated. I doubt you have, because pretty much no one has, because no one every cared, before now.
The problem is the WHO and the CDC have inflated the deaths by influenza by orders of magnitude, too. This seems like it was a vaccine marketing exercise. People may have the flu, but they usually die from complications associated with it, in conjunction with having a body that has a bucket load of other issues as well, including more advanced age.

More people die of lung disease, cancer, heart disease and complications associated with diabetes than have ever died from 'just the flu'.

The CDC even combines deaths from 'flu like illnesses' with people who have the much smaller verifiable influenza (but also have a bucket load of other problems at the same time). I have a feeling that our old friend Covid 1984 acts in much the same way, but perhaps puts a body under slightly more stress because it is 'novel'.
 
Well, it can get even worse than that. David Beasley from the UN said that 256 million people can starve because of corona.
What if they were going to starve anyway because of global cooling = famine? The Elites can only do something about one half of the "people need food to survive" equation, and it's not the food production side of it.....:-(
 
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For example, as I showed in a recent post, in the past 25 years, the worst month of mortality in NYC was in January 1999, which was the peak of the flu season for that year
These deaths are from "Influenza-like Illnesses". Only a very small proportion of them would actually have influenza is my guess. However, the stats are all put under the same umbrella. Just to make things a lot more complicated! Well, you gota scare people into having vaccines for 'preventable illnesses' even if stats are used to create a false impression.
 
I work from home, and have done so for several years, so this isolation is nothing new for me. I communicate with coworkers by instant messaging and emails.

I just let myself be triggered by a coworker. She is pretty savvy about some things, but has done no research about this "virus" and reports to me on our IM chats about what the media is saying. I tried a couple of weeks ago to tell her some stuff, and that there is plenty of info online. But she "can't" research because she takes online courses (for mediumship!) and doesn't "have time". So I told her I was not going to discuss it anymore with her. But stupid me, today when she felt the need to tell me about what the local mayor was saying, I let myself be drawn back in. GRRR. My fault. The triggering statement was when she told me she didn't go to the grocery store for a week when she found out that one of the employees had tested positive, and how this is much more infectious than regular flu.

I usually remain pretty calm during our online meetings, etc., but I think hearing people repeat the key phrases such as "essential", "much more infectious", etc. just got to me. Thanks for listening.
 
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