I would not be surprised at all if seeing such a statement, only for real, in a near future. And sheep would applaud...

Gavin Newsom Says California Will Stay On Lockdown Until Scientists Discover Cure For Death


That is the top of the insanity. Unbelievable and so "hyped" at the same time. They do no longer have any filters. This is as if it was the race for the greatest foolishness, and to whom will be awarded the prize for worst eugenicism-psychopathy behavior, and the number of nominees is only increasing...
 
That is the top of the insanity. Unbelievable and so "hyped" at the same time. They do no longer have any filters. This is as if it was the race for the greatest foolishness, and to whom will be awarded the prize for worst eugenicism-psychopathy behavior, and the number of nominees is only increasing...

Just to make it clear, the article is from the Babylon Bee, which is satire.
 
Just to make it clear, the article is from the Babylon Bee, which is satire.
I checked Sott to see if it was from the Don't Panic Lighten Up section - not yet. Then I spied Babylon Bee and the jig was up! Like Scarlett, sometimes things are posted that fool me at first and I think this is too preposterous to be real - and it's not. Sadly, so much of what is actually going on now is all too real despite being ridiculously preposterous. :-(
 
Palm Beach County Mayor, Vice Mayor, County Commissioners have all been served. | TRAITORS BEING HELD ACCOUNTABLE. ITS TIME TO RALLY! S%$# IS GETTING REAL

Date: September 2, 2020



She just keeps GOING AND GOING, listing all the statutes these oath-breakers were in violation of. This woman’s courageous actions need to be emulated across the country. I’m looking to all of you out there who are lawyers or have any kind of legal accumen and/or hold positions of power and influence in your respective communities. We need you guys and girls to STEP UP and turn the tables on these state leaders. Its about time we apply our boots to their necks this time around and make them pay for their betrayal of the very people they were elected to protect and look out for.
 

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After two nights of work in the factory since the beginning of the compulsory wearing of the mask in all French companies, I can assure you that I have worn mine ... in my pocket.

I thought I would see everyone masked when I first arrived, but in fact very few actually wear them. Some slip it under the nose, others under the chin, or not at all.
In fact, they only wear the mask properly when the bosses are present.
I am pleasantly surprised.

Whether or not they believe in the pandemic, after all of the government's inconsistencies about the mask, it should come as no surprise that people only wear them if they really have to. Especially when it is too restrictive, like in the factory.

I thought I had to wear it when changing teams, but it's not necessary.
At night there are only four of us working, and no one has put it on once.

I just hope we can continue like this. Hoping to escape any unexpected checks.

Courage to all those who have to wear it all day long!
 
A group of eight Ohioans opposed to Gov. Mike DeWine’s emergency orders dealing with the COVID-19 outbreak has filed a federal lawsuit seeking to end the regulations, including those that have shut down businesses and forced Ohioans to wear face masks.

“We believe that the response to COVID-19 has been the greatest fraud ever perpetrated on the American Public,” said Thomas Renz, a Fremont, OH, attorney representing the coalition, Ohio Stands Up, in the suit filed in U.S. District Court in Toledo.
That only eight people were behind this lawsuit was disheartening to me, but the organization itself does have many more members - from its website:
MISSION: Our mission at Ohio Stands Up! is to file the first federal lawsuit in the country challenging a governor’s entire State of Emergency so we can reclaim Ohio. Our lawsuit will set national precedent, and as the saying goes, “Where Ohio goes so goes the nation.” Equally important are our efforts to educate Ohioans and all Americans on the reality of COVID-19 while ensuring our Constitutional rights are honored in the process.

WHO WE ARE: We are a group of 5,000 (and growing) concerned freedom-loving Ohioans, who recognize the tremendous sacrifices made by countless generations of Americans throughout our nation's history to secure, preserve, and protect our God-given rights. We believe it is our duty and privilege to protect our fundamental liberties while demanding our elected leaders be held accountable and be shown they cannot act with impunity for their tyrannical and corrupt behavior. We are united in our common goal to stand against continued violations of our Constitutional freedoms, while working to restore those freedoms from which we have been deprived. Leading Ohio Stands Up! is our all-volunteer Board comprised of 10 courageous Ohioans from all walks of life and careers. The Board is responsible for making all legal and financial decisions and leading this new movement.

July 21, 2020 Board Established, Mission Statement Developed, Facebook Group and GoFundMe Re-branded "Ohio Stands Up!”
The Board is comprised of 10 courageous and concerned freedom-loving Ohioans who insist our elected leaders be held accountable and be shown they cannot act with impunity for their tyrannical behavior. The Board is responsible for making all legal and financial decisions and leading this new movement. Our mission is to file the FIRST federal lawsuit in the country challenging a governor’s ENTIRE State of Emergency so we can reclaim Ohio, educate Ohioans and all Americans about the reality of COVID-19 while ensuring our Constitutional rights are honored in the process. Our original Facebook group “Ohioans Against Mandatory Masks" and our original GoFundMe of “Demask Now” were both changed to "Ohio Stands Up!" to reflect our expanded mission.

Sept 1, 2020
GoFundMe Donations Reaches $40,000+!
Ohio Stands Up! filed the lawsuit in federal court on Aug 31, 2020 and within 12 hours, our donations have skyrocketed! Thank you to all patriots who have continued donating to help us reach this milestone! This is truly a team effort!!! We rely on your continued support as we continue this battle. It has only just begun and we are in it to win it! Anything contributes to the cause! Everything makes a difference! You can donate anonymously if you so choose! If you can’t donate, please at least share our website and GoFundMe. Thank you for your donations and for sharing!
This response and organization is encouraging especially as people are getting onboard with donations to support this citizen effort. Here's the link to the lawsuit pdf:


Also from their website:
“It does not take a majority to prevail ... but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of people.” ― Samuel Adams

The worm is beginning to turn.
 
The main problem with the vaccine, if the villain in the movie intended on bringing down the population to 500m is that distributing the vaccine to all 8 billion people will take at least 2 years and even then, you can't guarantee it'll reach everyone. That window is too big as when people start dropping, you want them to be doing it at the same time roughly otherwise your plan will fail. Trying to think as a mastermind villain.
I don't know. If the plan was to kill as many people as possible, it's not necessary to kill everyone at the same time, or even that people are aware of what's killing them. In fact, for the plan to be the most effective, it's best to keep as many people in the dark as possible, whilst simultaneously making out that anyone who questions, or notices anything, is crazy. My money's on vaccines.

The Coronavirus vaccine would be particularly effective because people think that vaccines are benign and completely safe. What could be simpler?

These fundamental questions have never been asked: Do vaccines make us healthier? (probably not, but there's no proof, as the science has not been allowed to study this issue) Can they kill us? (of course). Will anyone notice? (Not unless exposure and death occur very close together and since the assumption is that vaccines are completely benign, no-one will notice unless that happens on a massive scale, and it won't).
 
Ravens crows) disappeared on this thread - they were until recently abundant, and a everyday sight. But I've only had two sightings all summer. One may have been a raven, but it was hard to tell with the sunlight in my eye. The other I heard with the unmistakable sound they make outside my house.

They must have moved to Vancouver Island. We noticed an abundance of the critters around here lately.
 
Neema, you sound as if you have an urgent appointment - in 5 D... :rolleyes:
With all the BS that keeps poping, I had been having those kind of thoughts as well.

The latest, was due a protest/march at Mexico City and other states in which people expressed their rejection to the President, they were summoned and so bedient wearing masks and keeping their distance:headbash:
And, I just saw sheep in mexican flags.
 

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A thought just came to mind!

If this whole covid thing was in a movie, say a thriller and the whole story revolves around how the villain plans to reduce the population, do you think the vaccine would be the answer?

I think if it was a movie, the vaccine would be the misdirection and the answer, which would be a twist to the plot would be... Guess what? MASKS.

These masks have literally reached everywhere and are easy to produce. What the villain would need to do is control the factories making the masks and lace the fabric with the vector that will eventually kill people. Who would ever suspect masks when compared to vaccines?

Then you run the plot... Create the impression of a mass respiratory pandemic, get governments to buy into it by way of having gained control of the world health organisation.

Start pushing vaccines but deep down you know these are quite complicated to get everywhere and in a short space of time!

However, on the side, what do you do. Employ a classic psychological tactic - the anchoring effect.


Hit people with the vaccine offer which sets the anchor and then come in with what you really want, which is to get everyone to wear a mask which of course you'll be producing. People will accept the mask as they will see it as a compromise and therefore easy to digest.

After everyone has been sufficiently laced with whatever is in the mask fabric, then unleash the thing to activate the vector - whatever that is.

Too outlandish? Anyone know where all these masks are coming from?
I am convinced that they are killing us with the mask. this morning when I wake up I made the relation mask/gas chamber. They killed around 14 millions of people during their "final option" in those days. Today they are killing us with the masks. Their obsession with them is a sign of madness.
 
I don't believe i've seen this shared yet.

Footage of an English man refusing to wear a mask on a train in the UK being attacked by a police officer (OR he may be the transport police? I don't think there's any difference). The passenger claims he he has a medical exemption, and that he therefore isn't required to wear one, by law, and that the officer clearly doesn't know the law. The passenger filming, who seems to be his friend, and is presumably wearing a mask since he isn't accosted, repeats his claims and calls the officer a bully. The officer repeatedly threatens to pepper spray him, calls for back up, and manages to put 1 handcuff on as the victim firmly resists.

It's pretty chilling to see these videos but one hopes it'll open some people's eyes:

 
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I don't know. If the plan was to kill as many people as possible, it's not necessary to kill everyone at the same time, or even that people are aware of what's killing them. In fact, for the plan to be the most effective, it's best to keep as many people in the dark as possible, whilst simultaneously making out that anyone who questions, or notices anything, is crazy. My money's on vaccines.

The Coronavirus vaccine would be particularly effective because people think that vaccines are benign and completely safe. What could be simpler?

These fundamental questions have never been asked: Do vaccines make us healthier? (probably not, but there's no proof, as the science has not been allowed to study this issue) Can they kill us? (of course). Will anyone notice? (Not unless exposure and death occur very close together and since the assumption is that vaccines are completely benign, no-one will notice unless that happens on a massive scale, and it won't).

I don't know if English Sott did share this article by J.B. Handley with another title, I've searched but found anything. I'm currently translating it in French and I think it does answer some of questions above; or at least it gives some real clues and facts for answering them:

Did vaccines really save the world?

Since 1900, there’s been a dramatic 74% decline in mortality rates in developed countries, largely due to a marked decrease in deaths from infectious diseases. How much of this decline was due to vaccines? The history and data provide clear answers that matter greatly in today’s debate about vaccines as the race to find a vaccine for COVID-19 pushes us towards a vaccine that might be mandated for everyone.

Since 1900, the mortality rate in America and other first-world countries has declined by roughly 74%, creating a dramatic improvement in quality of life and life expectancy for Americans.

The simple question: “How did this happen?”

Why did the mortality rate decline so precipitously? If you listen to vaccine promoters, the answer is simple: vaccines saved us. What’s crazy about this narrative is how easy it is to disprove, the data is hiding in plain sight. The fact that this easily-proven-false narrative persists, however, tells us a lot about the world we live in, and I hope will encourage parents to reconsider the veracity of many of the narratives they’ve been fed about vaccines, and do their own primary research.

Handley then talks about Dr. Edward H. Kass's works and how he showed to his peers at the time and with simple graphics why vaccines did not saved/save the world.

Just some extracts:

Standing before his colleagues on October 19, 1970, Harvard’s Dr. Edward H. Kass gave a speech to the annual meeting of the Infectious Diseases Society of America that would likely get him run out of this same profession today. At the time, Dr. Kass was actually the President of the organization, which made the things he had to say about vaccines and their impact on the reduction in American mortality rates even more shocking, at least by today’s standards. Forty-eight years after Dr. Kass’ speech, vaccines have taken on a mythological status in many corners of our world, hyped up by the people who benefit the most from their use. Of course vaccines saved the world. Of course every child should get every vaccine. If you don’t vaccinate, you will enable the return of deadly childhood diseases. If you don’t vaccinate, your child will die. If you question vaccines, even a little, you’re an “anti-vaxxer” who should be shunned and dismissed!

But what if most of the history about the role vaccines played in declining mortality isn’t even true?

In his famous speech, Dr. Kass took his infectious disease colleagues to task, warning them that drawing false conclusions about WHY mortality rates had declined so much could cause them to focus on the wrong things. As he explained:
“…we had accepted some half truths and had stopped searching for the whole truths. The principal half truths were that medical research had stamped out the great killers of the past —tuberculosis, diphtheria, pneumonia, puerperal sepsis, etc. —and that medical research and our superior system of medical care were major factors extending life expectancy, thus providing the American people with the highest level of health available in the world. That these are half truths is known but is perhaps not as well known as it should be.”
Dr. Kass then shared some eye-opening charts with his colleagues. I’m trying to imagine a President of the Infectious Diseases Society of America sharing one of these charts today at a meeting of public health officials. I picture someone turning the power off for the room where he’s presenting and then he gets tackled and carried off the stage…here’s the first example of a chart Dr. Kass shared in 1970:

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But wait a minute, Dr. Kass’ chart doesn’t even include the measles vaccine…what gives? Well, in 1970, the measles vaccine was just beginning to be rolled out, and as you can clearly see, measles had long since experienced a dramatic decline in mortality. With Pertussis (Whooping Cough), he produced a similar chart:

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In this case, you can actually see when the Pertussis vaccine was introduced. He also showed a chart for scarlet fever, which furthers the confusion about the role of vaccines, because there’s never been a scarlet fever vaccine, and yet the chart of a huge decline in mortality from scarlet fever looks very similar to measles and pertussis:

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What’s the point?

Dr. Kass was trying to make a simple point to his colleagues, but one with profound implications for public health. His point was so important, I’m going to quote him in really big font to try and drive it home:
“This decline in rates of certain disorders, correlated roughly with socioeconomic circumstances, is merely the most important happening in the history of the health of man, yet we have only the vaguest and most general notions about how it happened and by what mechanisms socioeconomic improvement and decreased rates of certain diseases run in parallel.”
Dr. Kass pled with his colleagues to be open to understanding WHY infectious diseases had declined so dramatically in the U.S. (as well as other first world countries). Was it nutrition? Sanitary methods? A reduction in home crowding? (We’ve since learned the answer to all three questions is, “Yes.”) He encouraged his colleagues to be careful not to jump to conclusions prematurely and to maintain objectivity and “devote ourselves to new possibilities.”
Luckily for us, Dr. Kass’ speech that day has been saved for posterity, as it was printed in its entirety in a medical journal. In fact, it’s a journal that Dr. Kass himself founded, The Journal of Infectious Diseases, and his speech is called, “Infectious Disease and Social Change.” There are a number of things about Dr. Kass’ speech that I found breathtaking, especially given that he was the President of the Infectious Diseases Society of America. Namely:
  1. He never referred to vaccines as “mankind’s greatest invention” or one of the other many hyperbolic ways vaccines are described all the time by vaccine promoters in the press today. Vaccines weren’t responsible for saving “millions of lives” in the United States, as Dr. Kass well knew.
  2. In fact, he never gave vaccines much credit AT ALL for the developed world’s dramatic mortality decline. Which makes sense, because none of the data he had would have supported that view. Which made me wonder, “has anyone tried to put the contribution of vaccines to the decline in human mortality in the 20th century in context?” Said differently, is there any data that measures exactly how much impact vaccines had in saving humanity? Yes, indeed there is. Read on.

Then, he follows with McKinlay & McKinlay works and studies:


McKinlay & McKinlay: The most famous study you’ve never heard of

https://www.milbank.org/wp-content/...he-United-States-in-the-Twentieth-Century.pdf
It won’t be the world’s easiest read, but I hope you take the time to read every word. In 1977, Boston University epidemiologists (and husband and wife) John and Sonja McKinlay published the seminal work on the role vaccines (and other medical interventions) played in the massive decline in mortality seen in the twentieth century, that 74% number I talked about in my opening paragraph. Not only that, but their study warned against the very behavior we are now seeing in the world of vaccines. Namely, they warned that a group of profiteers might take more credit for the results of an intervention (vaccines) than the intervention deserves, and then use those fake results to create a world where their product must be used by everyone. Seriously, they predicted that this would happen. (It’s worth noting that the McKinlay Study used to be required reading at every medical school.)
…they warned that a group of profiteers might take more credit for the results of an intervention (vaccines) than the intervention deserves, and then use those fake results to create a world where their product must be used by everyone.
Published in 1977 in The Millbank Memorial Fund Quarterly, the McKinlay’s study was titled, “The Questionable Contribution of Medical Measures to the Decline of Mortality in the United States in the Twentieth Century.” The study clearly proved, with data, something that the McKinlay’s acknowledged might be viewed by some as medical “heresy.” Namely:
“that the introduction of specific medical measures and/or the expansion of medical services are generally not responsible for most of the modern decline in mortality.”
By “medical measures,” the McKinlay’s really meant ANYTHING modern medicine had come up with, whether that was antibiotics, vaccines, new prescription drugs, whatever. The McKinlay’s 23-page study really should be read cover to cover, but in a nutshell the McKinlay’s sought to analyze how much of an impact medical interventions (antibiotics, surgery, vaccines) had on this massive decline in mortality rates between 1900 and 1970:
[...]
Here are some of the major points their paper made:
  • 92.3% of the mortality rate decline happened between 1900 and 1950 [before most vaccines existed]
  • Medical measures “appear to have contributed little to the overall decline in mortality in the United States since about 1900–having in many instances been introduced several decades after a marked decline had already set in and having no detectable influence in most instances.”
And, here’s the two doozies…

The paper makes two points that I really want to highlight, because they are so important. The first one concerns vaccines. They write:
“Even if it were assumed that this change was entirely due to the vaccines, then only about one percent of the decline following interventions for the diseases considered here could be attributed to medical measures. Rather more conservatively, if we attribute some of the subsequent fall in the death rates for pneumonia, influenza, whooping cough, and diphtheria to medical measures, then perhaps 3.5 percent of the fall in the overall death rate can be explained through medical intervention in the major infectious diseases considered here. Indeed, given that it is precisely for these diseases that medicine claims most success in lowering mortality, 3.5 percent probably represents a reasonable upper-limit estimate of the total contribution of medical measures to the decline in mortality in the United States since 1900.”
In plain English: of the total decline in mortality since 1900, that 74% number I keep mentioning, vaccines (and other medical interventions like antibiotics) were responsible for somewhere between 1% and 3.5% of that decline. Said differently, at least 96.5% of the decline (and likely more than that since their numbers included ALL medical interventions, not ONLY vaccines) had nothing to do with vaccines.

You don’t get to say you saved humanity if, at most, you were responsible for 3.5% of the decline in mortality rates since 1900 (and probably closer to 1%).

And then the McKinlay’s wrote something that made me laugh out loud, because it’s the thing we are seeing every day in today’s vaccine-hyped world:
“It is not uncommon today for biotechnological knowledge and specific medical interventions to be invoked as the major reason for most of the modern (twentieth century) decline in mortality. Responsibility for this decline is often claimed by, or ascribed to, the present-day major beneficiaries of this prevailing explanation.”
Sound familiar?

2000: the CDC puts the final nail in the coffin

In 1970, Dr. Kass raised the idea that public health officials need to be careful to not give the wrong things credit for the twentieth century’s massive mortality rate decline in the developed world. In 1977, Drs. McKinlay & McKinlay put data around Dr. Kass’ ideas, and showed that vaccines (and other medical interventions) were responsible for between 1-3.5% of the total decline in mortality since 1900. In 2000, CDC scientists reconfirmed all this data, but also provided more insight into the things that actually have led to declines in mortality.

Published in September 2000 in the journal Pediatrics and titled, “Annual Summary of Vital Statistics: Trends in the Health of Americans During the 20th Century
,” epidemiologists from both Johns Hopkins and the Centers for Disease Control reaffirmed what we had already learned from McKinlay and McKinlay:
“Thus vaccination does not account for the impressive declines in mortality seen in the first half of the century…nearly 90% of the decline in infectious disease mortality among US children occurred before 1940, when few antibiotics or vaccine were available.”
The study went on to explain the things that actually were responsible for a massive decline in mortality:
“water treatment, food safety, organized solid waste disposal, and public education about hygienic practices.” Also, “improvements in crowding in US cities” played a major role. Clean water. Safe food. Nutrition. Plumbing. Hygiene. These were the primary reasons mortality declined so precipitously. At least according to the data and published science.
[...]

There is more in the article than what I put above, hereafter the headlines: more on CDC; Africa, and other third world countries; The “Aaby Study”; The Every Second Child book by Dr. Archie Kalokerinos; other graphics; And the conclusion:

Vaccines didn’t save humanity. Their impact was somewhere between 1-3.5% of the total decline in mortality rates. Improvement in sanitation and standards of living really did (nutrition, living conditions, etc.). Did vaccines contribute to a small decrease of certain acute illnesses? Yes, but their relative benefit is often exaggerated to an extreme, and then used to browbeat, guilt, and scare parents.
 
I don't believe i've seen this shared yet.

Footage of an English man refusing to wear a mask on a train in the UK being attacked by a police officer (OR he may be the transport police? I don't think there's any difference). The passenger claims he he has a medical exemption, and that he therefore isn't required to wear one, by law, and that the officer clearly doesn't know the law. The passenger filming, who seems to be his friend, and is presumably wearing a mask since he isn't accosted, repeats his claims and calls the officer a bully. The officer repeatedly threatens to pepper spray him, calls for back up, and manages to put 1 handcuff on as the victim firmly resists.

It's pretty chilling to see these videos but one hopes it'll open some people's eyes:

We are in the "times" of "AND HOWEVER IT MOVES".

Some time ago an old man asked me about what he could do to avoid wearing a face mask, since to sleep he used an oxygen bottle and choked with the face mask. He also said that no doctor wanted to give him a report with which he could "circulate" without a face mask. But the worst was the "people" who insulted and harassed him if he took it off.

I told him that if he had a medical report at home that explained his illness, that would be useful for the Police, but ...

"It will always depend on the Police Officer you are in."

One will accept it with a smile and on the next street another will fine him or the video will happen.

In the end I told him, "Do what you can, we are all the same!"

"HOWEVER, IT MOVES"

And the "inquisitor court" will pass.
 
I don't know. If the plan was to kill as many people as possible, it's not necessary to kill everyone at the same time, or even that people are aware of what's killing them. In fact, for the plan to be the most effective, it's best to keep as many people in the dark as possible, whilst simultaneously making out that anyone who questions, or notices anything, is crazy. My money's on vaccines.

The Coronavirus vaccine would be particularly effective because people think that vaccines are benign and completely safe. What could be simpler?

These fundamental questions have never been asked: Do vaccines make us healthier? (probably not, but there's no proof, as the science has not been allowed to study this issue) Can they kill us? (of course). Will anyone notice? (Not unless exposure and death occur very close together and since the assumption is that vaccines are completely benign, no-one will notice unless that happens on a massive scale, and it won't).
The thing for us to grasp about the vaccine issue is that for a large percentage of people the subject of its efficacy is going to be simply non debatable. The programming leads inexorably to that decision. The lock-downs, the masks, the crash of the economy, the perpetual and deliberately bewildering contradictions, are principally designed to make life so intolerable that the rainbow at the end of the unbearable tunnel is a vaccine that promises to instantly sweep aside all these unpleasant life choices and clean the slate, making you warm, virtuous and safe. This is the idea that people will completely invest in. It has been planted day one center stage as the only exit point to salvation. Any suggestion or information that threatens this crock of gold (sic) will be seen as an existential threat by the terrified populous and those who argue the same, anti-human and indeed of deserving of silencing by whatever means possible. The flock is being so bewildered, so terrorized, so intimidated, that the back of the cattle truck marked 'To Slaughter House' is thus perceived as the only safe place on earth and in they will rush. The rest of us can go to hell rather than allow us to close the door before they can get safely inside.
 
I don't know. If the plan was to kill as many people as possible, it's not necessary to kill everyone at the same time, or even that people are aware of what's killing them. In fact, for the plan to be the most effective, it's best to keep as many people in the dark as possible, whilst simultaneously making out that anyone who questions, or notices anything, is crazy. My money's on vaccines.

And that is what is happening and was happening when it comes to vacinnes for long time and you would not hear about that from mainstream media, people dying here and there and some staying paralyzed for life or getting chronical ilness with source unknown but now it would be at global scale and many will not even know it happened. The vaccines also do not need to kill many, it is enough to get people even more obedient so they will do the killing through silence while the rest who will not listen and take vaccine will starve or die imprisoned, at least that is their plan. When you look Nazi Germany they did not even have technology, vaccines, poisons as we have today and how did it end up, bonus is that today you can still get information from alternative sources unlike then but people refuse it which shows you the state of majority. So the fire in the sky could seem like blessing in the end at least for the satisfaction to show them who has the final word.
 
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