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And not just the patients, but the doctors who are seeing that their regular patients are being shunted aside by the rules, while the numbers of seriously ill people with Corona Virus are simply not materializing. So doctors know what's going on too, if they are paying attention and are not overwhelmed by the propaganda to think that any person with corona virus is a threat to humanity.

I've just had my casual shift cancelled at the hospital. They are closing beds.... Must be all those invisible sick people 'pandemicing'.

I'm starting to think there is deliberate lying going on, even though there may a lag time of up to 3 weeks before people get really sick. And I can't even go to the gym! The media looks like they are even 'begging' the government to shut hairdressers as well, whilst simultaneously focusing on any young person who gets sick. The world is literally going mad over a 'souped up' cold.

At the end of all this, many ordinary people will know that it was mishandled, and many doctors will know (if not most or even ALL of them). So, what's going to happen? Are they going to force doctors to sign non-disclosure agreements so they won't tell???

This sort of situation exists already, in science, in health and probably in teaching too. You speak out - you get your registration removed, possibly prosecuted, and you can no longer work. My management would undertake 'disciplinary procedures' against me. And, no, you're not allowed to use social media to bring this to people's attention. It's 'the government', you see, and their word is LAW. Speaking of LAW, they've just snuck passed a law making it mandatory for all health care workers in this State to be vaccinated. This is despite all evidence that it is a waste of time and may even have negative efficacy.

 
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Here's something for the timeline of events. In March 2013, SOTT run an article about coronavirus.


There was a discussion about it here on the forum. "Coronavirus is this the next pandemic?"

 
A small update of this madness from Macedonia.
The restrictive measures became even more restrictive.

As I noticed in their previous press conferences, their main problem was that some people during the weekends will go out on fresh air, or they were going to rural areas, like villages where a lot of people have a house and hang out there with their friends.
So now they changed the curfew hours during the weekend. Now the curfew at weekends is from 16:00 until 5:00 the next day.

Until now they tried to announce that there were 3 deaths from the CV but people, at least some of them didn't buy that.
The first case was an older woman. She died from a heart attack and she has some kind of chronic pulmonary problem for many years.
She was negative on a first CV test, negative on a second few days later and when she died, as they said on the third test on her dead body it was positive.

nobody believed this story.
Similar case with the " second victim". And then some family members talked on TV I think and said that the woman was very ill for a few years and it has nothing with CV.

I don't know about the third case, but it was very suspicious.

While all this lockdown is happening, the biggest telecommunication company performed a first 5G demo in Macedonia
Also at the same time, people were posting pictures of a lot of dead birds that just fall down from the sky. What a coincidence

Businesses are closing and if the lockdown continues a month or more, and it probably will, it will be an economic disaster.
 
I'm not sure what the situation is in other countries, but here in the UK, I think there is an underlying sense of snobbery that is starting to creep into the health system.

I'm now seeing enough accounts to start thinking this. To explain.

  • For one, it's not clear who can get tested. It's sounding like you literally need to be dying to get tested... Displaying a fever, coughing, being short of breath is not enough - you have to be dying!
  • Second, it sounds like if paramedics get called out to a place, they make a 'judgement' call as to whether the patient can be taken to hospital. So it's almost like the patient has to convince the paramedics they are in a bad enough state, and even that is supposedly not enough in all instances as they can just say no.
  • Third, it sounds like if you have a non-covid related illness, you have a battle on your hands to be tended to, at least to receive the level of care you'd receive pre covid.
  • Fourth, it sounds like the majority who call that number and report bad enough symptoms are told there's nothing the NHS can do for them, that they should hanker down and hope it passes (I call this the NHS talking itself out of the job - if a health organisation can't help people who are sick, then by definition it's USELESS)
  • Fifth, it sounds like rich and powerful people are having access to healthcare and testing that normal folks don't. Celebrities are coming out claiming they are positive, yet displaying no or mild symptoms... So how did they get tested? Hmmm... Think about it. Private clinics are opening up offering testing for like £400 which is nothing to a rich person but quite a lot to normal or poor people.

It's sounding to me like the medical system is becoming inaccessible, elitist and the people in there are being given powers to make judgement calls, which if they are wrong will result in death or other harm BUT IT ALSO SOUNDS LIKE THEY HAVE IMMUNITY NOW AND LACK OF ACCOUNTABILITY.

It's starting to feel rather sickening to me.

Basically, you are on your own.
 
Apparently here in North Yorkshire the police are now stopping people to verify the purpose of the journey etc etc etc. Still here it does seem calm at present.There were people out on their Door steps clapping the NHS at 8 pm last night.
The news channels here are pushing home the message that young people are also at risk from the virus.
House sales have all now been put on hold aswell. It does feel claustrophobic though I can go out with the dogs but looks like the lock down will be tightened up. The majority of people I see and talk to are very scared. The fear of the virus has taken over their minds.
 
You know, the part of me that is conspiratorial is starting to think:

The globalists might want to scale down on human activity and restart it in a more controlled way. They may also want to scale back on the human population and have released a virus that in the first instance will knock off elderly and people with underlying health problems as these are useless as slaves to their future paradigm. Perhaps the aim of the virus is to weaken people far enough that other underlying pathogens that they have do the job of killing off the person. Perhaps this is why most people dying are dying WITH Corona virus as opposed to as a result of Corona virus.

It's looking like as a result of this pandemic, technology will be even more intrusive (openly so). The antibody test will be used to track those who have the antibodies (how will they know, they will log you into a system). These people can then go out and live normally whilst the rest continue being restricted in the name of not overburdening the system. At some point, the second wave will be released and that will knock off majority of the fit and healthy apart from those who have certain genetic markers who will then be those to be ruled over in the new world where technology will be leveraged to levels not seen in order to maintain control, order and civilisation.

It all stinks to high heaven.
 
Added UK, Saudi Arabia, Jordan Feb/Mar 2013 I'm not entirely sure that this was the absolute latest version of the timeline

Corona Virus timeline


CHINA November, 2002: After its experience with the SARS outbreak in Guangdong Province in 2002, China implemented a rapid response protocol for infectious diseases. The protocol empowered the Health Ministry to assemble professional and managerial help from across the country, established an emergency response coordinating team, prepared funding and authorization for supplies, equipment and emergency health care facilities, anticipating that existing hospitals would be overwhelmed.

USA September 2008: Though the first cases of H1N1 swine flu were reported in California and Texas in late March, 2009, subsequent genetic analysis suggests that it began six months before it was first detected, in September, 2008, at the start of the ‘flu season. The CDC admits, below, that earlier Covid-19 cases went undetected, too

FIVE YEAR GAP

UK, Saudi Arabia, Jordan Feb/Mar 2013
New Mystery Virus kills 9th Victim, This virus is in the family of coronaviruses, a new virus, previously unknown to mankind, Symptoms of the disease consist of respiratory distress, fever, coughing and difficulty in breathing.


USA JULY, 2015: Patent application lodged for attenuated coronavirus by The Pirbright Institute (UK), application granted November 2018.

USA June, 2017: World Bank issues Pandemic Bonds for emergency pandemic financing and pandemic insurance.

USA May, 2018: The President Fires the entire US Pandemic Response Team and does not replace it.

USA November 2018: Patent application for attenuated coronavirus (see July 2015) granted.

USA April, 2019: An outbreak of severe vaping-associated lung illness is exclusively confined to the United States, despite the fact that the majority of vapers live outside the US.

USA July 3, 2019: The CDC halts research at Fort Detrick, citing “national security reasons” for not releasing information about its decision.

USA Jul 14, 2019: Chinese researcher escorted from infectious disease lab amid RCMP investigation. Public Health Agency of Canada describes it as a possible ‘policy breach,’ no risk to Canadian public. The first Chinese to discover or warn about the Covid-19 outbreak?

AUSTRALIA August, 2019: Australia Health Management Plan for Pandemic Influenza released.

USA August, 2019: First Vaping Death Reported by Health Officials “Amid the lack of information, investigators scrambled to find shared links to the respiratory problems. Officials said earlier this week that many patients, most of whom were adolescents or young adults, had described difficulty breathing, chest pain, vomiting and fatigue,” the precise symptoms of Covid-19 infection.

USA October 18, 2019: The Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security in partnership with the World Economic Forum and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation hosted Event 201, a high-level pandemic exercise on October 18, 2019, in New York, NY. Event 201 simulated an "outbreak of a novel zoonotic coronavirus transmitted from bats to pigs to people that eventually becomes efficiently transmissible from person to person, leading to a severe pandemic that leaves 65 million dead.

USA/CHINA October 27, 2019 At a peak of international tension and the ‘flu season in the northern hemisphere, on the eve of China’s biggest travel season, 300 American military servicemen visit Wuhan for the International Military Games.

USA December, 2019. A Chinese medical researcher is arrested in Boston trying to take biological samples back to China. Zheng Zaosong, of Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center, confessed to taking material from a lab in Boston. FBI Special Agent Kara Spice found 21 wrapped vials containing a “brown liquid” that appeared to be “biological material” (samples of post-mortem lung tissue look like ‘brown liquid’). Zheng’s roommate, also a researcher, told FBI agents that two labmates of Zheng had succeeded in getting specimens to China. China, presumably, now went on high alert.

USA/CHINA December 2019: Chinese researchers in the USA informed China’s Health Ministry of a novel Coronavirus outbreak there, triggering a readiness alert nationwide. The WHO describes what happened next, “In the face of a previously unknown virus, China has rolled out perhaps the most ambitious, agile, and aggressive disease containment effort in history…China’s bold approach to contain the rapid spread of this new respiratory pathogen has changed the course of a rapidly escalating and deadly epidemic.”

CHINA Dec 26, 2019: Jixian Zhang detects four anomalous pneumonia infections in Wuhan and reports them to the provincial CDC the next day. The provincial authorities immediately inform the national CDC which prepares to implement the pandemic response protocols.

GERMANY December 25-December 31, 2019: Charité (clinic in Berlin) starts developing test for the new Corona virus after first informal information reaches them. Later sends prototype to China, "unnamed colleagues" in China confirm that it works. WHO then publishes the test on its website as the first test. China develops own test, but demand is high elsewhere - even in Southeast Asia.

CHINA December 30, 2019: China’s national CDC notifies the WHO

CHINA December 31, 2019: WHO reports Zhang’s discovery to the world.


MALAYSIA January 5, 2020: Malaysia’s Assistant to the Prime Minister, Matthias Chang, speculates that the US is waging biological warfare on China.

USA Jan 6, 2020 Infectious disease expert Amesh A. Adalja, M.D., senior scholar at the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security, agrees, “We are on track to have a season like the 2017-2018 season,” when 80,000 Americans died of flu complications.

CHINA January 7, 2020: China identifies the virus as 2019-nCov and confirms it five days later. President Xi tells officials that the country is on a ‘war footing’

CHINA January 13, 2020: China makes the first 2019-nCov test kits available.

USA January 19, 2020:
A 35-year-old man presented to an urgent care clinic in Snohomish County, Washington, with a 4-day history of cough and subjective fever. He disclosed that he had returned to Washington State on January 15 after traveling to visit family in Wuhan, China.
Apart from a history of hypertriglyceridemia, the patient was an otherwise healthy nonsmoker. On January 20, 2020, the CDC confirmed that the patient’s nasopharyngeal and oropharyngeal swabs tested positive for 2019-nCoV. By Jan. 30, the patient’s symptoms had resolved, according to a New England Journal of Medicine paper. Snohomish County officials allowed him to leave home isolation three weeks later.

CHINA January 25, 2020: Construction begins on a 1,000 bed intensive care hospital in Wuhan.

CHINA January 26, 2020: China extends Spring Festival holiday to contain the outbreak.

USA January 28, 2020: Harvard Chemistry Professor Arrested, Handcuffed, And Accused Of Lying About Ties To China. Charles Lieber, Chair of Harvard’s Department of Chemical Biology, led a Chinese research group focusing on the use of nanotechnology to identify viruses.

CHINA February 5, 2020: First patients moved into new 1,000 bed intensive care hospital.

CHINA February 23, 2020. Chinese scientists found genomic evidence that the seafood market in Wuhan was not the source of the novel coronavirus. Their genetic data suggests the virus was introduced from elsewhere and had already circulated widely among humans in Wuhan before December 2019, probably beginning in mid- to late November.

CHINA February 27, 2020: On Taiwan TV a prominent virologist explained flow charts suggesting that the coronavirus originated in the US.

USA March 3, 2020: The Director General of the WHO announced: "While many people globally have built up immunity to seasonal flu strains, COVID-19 is a new virus to which no one has immunity. That means more people are susceptible to infection, and some will suffer severe disease. Globally, about 3.4% of reported COVID-19 cases have died. By comparison, seasonal flu generally kills far fewer than 1% of those infected." This was patently false. The coronavirus mortality rate reported by the media as stated by Dr. Ghebreyesus is completely inaccurate as all subsequent numbers show.

CHINA March 4, 2020
: February rail freight loadings rise 4.5% YOY.

CHINA March 5, 2020: Shipments to foreign JIT customers upgraded: government subsidizes upgrades from sea to rail delivery and from rail to air delivery.

USA March 6, 2020: Question: How did the virus come to the United States? Answer:The first known patients in the U.S. contracted the virus while traveling in other countries or after exposure to someone who had been to China or one of the other affected areas. But now, a few cases here cannot be traced to these risk factors. This is concerning because it suggests the illness may be spreading across communities for which the source of infection is unknown, which we call community spread/transmission. Dr. Emily Landon, spokesperson, U Chicago School of Medicine.

USA March 9, 2020: HHS staffers often weren’t informed about coronavirus developments because they didn’t have adequate clearance. He said he was told that the matters were classified “because it had to do with China.”

USA March 11, 2020: White House classifies coronavirus deliberations. The meetings at HHS were held in a secure area called a “Sensitive Compartmentalized Information Facility,” or SCIF, usually reserved for intelligence and military operations. HHS has SCIFs because theoretically it would play a major role in biowarfare or chemical attacks.

CHINA March 10, 2020: Government organizes and subsidizes bus, rail and air transport for two hundred million migrant workers to return to urban jobs.

USA March 12, 2020: CDC director Robert Redfield admits to a House Oversight Committee that some Americans who were diagnosed as dying from influenza tested positive for Covid-19 posthumously.

USA Mar 13, 2020: Chinese FM’s Lijian Zhao demands US authorities reveal what they’re hiding about the origins of Covid-19. “When did patient zero begin in the US? How many people are infected? What are the names of the hospitals? It might be the US army who brought the epidemic to Wuhan. Be transparent! Make your data public! The US owes us an explanation!”

CHINA March 16, 2020: Ninety percent of businesses expected to resume full operations. All Apple stores open.

CHINA March 19, 2020: No new corona virus cases.

***


Postscript: Researchers have greatly advanced their understanding of viral evolution since H1N1 a decade ago and finding patient zero is now more science than art. Recently, a team of Chinese researchers claimed to demonstrate that Covid-19 was born in September, 2019. The British researchers who had discovered the earlier H1N1 date are not convinced.
 
I'm not sure what the situation is in other countries, but here in the UK, I think there is an underlying sense of snobbery that is starting to creep into the health system.

I'm now seeing enough accounts to start thinking this. To explain.

  • For one, it's not clear who can get tested. It's sounding like you literally need to be dying to get tested... Displaying a fever, coughing, being short of breath is not enough - you have to be dying!
  • Second, it sounds like if paramedics get called out to a place, they make a 'judgement' call as to whether the patient can be taken to hospital. So it's almost like the patient has to convince the paramedics they are in a bad enough state, and even that is supposedly not enough in all instances as they can just say no.
  • Third, it sounds like if you have a non-covid related illness, you have a battle on your hands to be tended to, at least to receive the level of care you'd receive pre covid.
  • Fourth, it sounds like the majority who call that number and report bad enough symptoms are told there's nothing the NHS can do for them, that they should hanker down and hope it passes (I call this the NHS talking itself out of the job - if a health organisation can't help people who are sick, then by definition it's USELESS)
  • Fifth, it sounds like rich and powerful people are having access to healthcare and testing that normal folks don't. Celebrities are coming out claiming they are positive, yet displaying no or mild symptoms... So how did they get tested? Hmmm... Think about it. Private clinics are opening up offering testing for like £400 which is nothing to a rich person but quite a lot to normal or poor people.

It's sounding to me like the medical system is becoming inaccessible, elitist and the people in there are being given powers to make judgement calls, which if they are wrong will result in death or other harm BUT IT ALSO SOUNDS LIKE THEY HAVE IMMUNITY NOW AND LACK OF ACCOUNTABILITY.

It's starting to feel rather sickening to me.

Basically, you are on your own.

You know, the part of me that is conspiratorial is starting to think:

The globalists might want to scale down on human activity and restart it in a more controlled way. They may also want to scale back on the human population and have released a virus that in the first instance will knock off elderly and people with underlying health problems as these are useless as slaves to their future paradigm. Perhaps the aim of the virus is to weaken people far enough that other underlying pathogens that they have do the job of killing off the person. Perhaps this is why most people dying are dying WITH Corona virus as opposed to as a result of Corona virus.

It's looking like as a result of this pandemic, technology will be even more intrusive (openly so). The antibody test will be used to track those who have the antibodies (how will they know, they will log you into a system). These people can then go out and live normally whilst the rest continue being restricted in the name of not overburdening the system. At some point, the second wave will be released and that will knock off majority of the fit and healthy apart from those who have certain genetic markers who will then be those to be ruled over in the new world where technology will be leveraged to levels not seen in order to maintain control, order and civilisation.

It all stinks to high heaven.

What you have written above, both posts, sounds pretty darn on the money to me, especially the observations of how they are manipulating the whole medical system with the obvious intention that a LOT of people may die from neglect of treatable conditions while the #NothingBurgerPandemic is being touted so as to lock down the whole system.

It's just astonishing what they are doing and getting away with right now.

Also, the above analysis would make a good short piece for SOTT!!!
 
It's hurting the economy, yes. But there may be multiple reasons why he is implementing these measures as I see it.

The reasons include the expectations and concerns of the Russian people, who are witnessing what is going on in other countries.

The reasons also include the recommendations of Russian and foreign specialists. Russian top healthcare specialists are concerned and recommend to err on the side of caution.

The reasons also include his own concerns. Can he be sure that in Russia the situation cannot turn worse than elsewhere? Who knows if the virus is more or less dangerous for Russia due to the climate, genetics, geography and a myriad other factors?

I think he is just genuinely concerned that he cannot be too sure about this virus, and it's better be safe than sorry. Or so it seems to me.

I was thinking that Putin is probably aware of the statistics and mortality rate but doesn't want to give the western nations anything to smear him with in the media. If his reaction to this 'pandemic' wasn't in proportion, then I could imagine Russia getting the blame for infecting the rest of the world - if this does mutate and we see the same thing again next flu season.
 
It's sounding to me like the medical system is becoming inaccessible, elitist and the people in there are being given powers to make judgement calls, which if they are wrong will result in death or other harm BUT IT ALSO SOUNDS LIKE THEY HAVE IMMUNITY NOW AND LACK OF ACCOUNTABILITY.

It's starting to feel rather sickening to me.

Basically, you are on your own.

I was listening to Daniel Defoe's account of The History of the Plague in London mentioned here by Itellsya, and Daniel Defoe describes a similar thing happening in the times of the plague in London (just to clarify I am not saying that THIS event is like the plague, just pointing out the similarities in medical care for the poor).

Poor people could not afford healthcare at the time and from what I have heard so far, were left to fend for themselves, with their houses shuttered up and guarded. The rich could move far away to the countryside and pay for expensive medical treatment but the poor people of London suffered the most. He also describes how the poorer people, in their desperation, consulted "charlatans" "quacks" and fortune-tellers selling "magical treatments" to cure and protect from the plague- which reminds me of this: 50 Dead As Prophet Makes Members Of His Church Drink ‘Dettol’ In The Name Of Miracle (PHOTOS).

Working in the complementary therapy sector, I come into contact with lots of people who use both private and public healthcare services. IMO the healthcare system is already pretty elitist, this event has only exaggerated what was already happening. Many people have to wait months for operations, GP appointments, and medical procedures, whereas if they went private they could be seen almost immediately for a hefty sum.
 
Considering the issue of so much people dying of corona i've stumbled on some email supposedly sent by a German doctor to someone:

"first, I wanna thank Dr. Wodarg for his tireless work in this matter; second: the actual figures in germany: infected march 27: 43.938 deads: 267 - a few days ago we had 123 dead, average age 80 years. last winter 25.000 died from influenza.

We have here in Germany more and more scientists who oppose this hype. But all in German. Dr. Köhnlein, for instance, says Italien doctors sort of 'terminate' their patients by bringing down their fewer - that's the last human defence mechanism against viruses that die at 41C, we a 42C. And Italien doctors give their corona patients AIDS Blockers - this is for patients who have no immune system left! He's referring to a treatment case study of the lancet medical journal - in german:
Dr. Schiffmann comes with hard figures too:
- in german, but you catch some anyway; like new study: 50 to 75% of all corona infected don't develop any symptoms; the usual use of hospitals in Italy is 85 to 90% - without corona. None of 'corona'deads are tested of corona. You die: you died of corona. A doctor from Spain says hospitals are flooded by patients breaking down from stress, cold, and maybe corona! etc.
"

FWIW
 
Thank you for session.
It seems that if somebody experienced serious illnes in November 2019 then he have been targeted by wirus. Probably many STO oriented person had difficult time but were able to stand. Somebody with right intention menaged to change virus. Flu was a great cover to kill STO. So they overestimated power of wirus but war has begun.
Older people are different types of people. They have great life experience of II WW, cold war, comunism and other. Rather difficcult units to manipulate.
 
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