Creating a New World

Mac said:
But what if psychopathy were well known and persons with those tendencies were easily identified.
I think it is better to be more careful and suppose they are not easy to identify. They can adapt and appear as the most benevolent creatures in the universe. The devil wraps in light cloths ;)

Myrddin Awyr said:
and it'd be nice to do that without having to worry about money or being stuck with debts you can't get out of.
When you think of the actual monetary system as resulting from a system of debt, discarding money start by discarding debt?
 
A question I think we could ask is why do spiritual people pull away from politics? Perhaps along the lines of what anart mentioned, can we educate "objectively" (gurdjieff not rand) in a way to develop a truly enlightened populace and leadership? Writers in the 'perennial philosophy' school suggest a time when this occurred...and a gradual process where-in spirituality was removed from politics in such a way that the psychopaths took over, filled the void.

I have been having conversations with friends about events and have heard so many times "this is just how it is, politicians are all bad and crooks"...etc...etc...

A Great, Big question indeed.
 
Vulcain said:
The first big thing that comes to mind to me is to make sure essential psychopaths are identified as early as possible and are prevented from seeking or gaining positions of power or influence.
By who, how? What if in few generations the succesful psychopahts with a little help from their friends (4D sts for example) take little by little the decisional power to designate who's the psychopath and who's not?
 
Laura said:
I would like to start a discussion that focuses on Creating a New World.
Here on the STS BBM or in some sort of STO realm equivalent? The answer is significant as the entire way of existence would differ a lot.

Laura said:
I would just like for all participants to think about what is wrong with our world and what they would like to see happen to make it right.
I don't think it's possible to make a 3D STS world "right". Doubly so if as now the majority of people are such that do not tend towards STO development. Sure, it could be "better" or "worse" - less or more ponerized - but it'll never be anything other than a food source for 4D STS filled with pain, suffering and predation. Perhaps it can be more cushioned and less senseless in terms of needless violence and infliction of suffering, but this world in its present "mode" will always fundamentally be what it is.

In short, if you are speaking of a more STO way of doing things within a STS world, then all that would differ - within a limited range - is the style of the "school". Seen this way (simply as a school), it is impossible to make it "better" or "worse" so long as it sustains life capable of choosing a path. But in terms of "more STO"... Well, trying to think of some sort of genuinely close-to-STO society within the framework of this world simply boggles my mind. Such a hopeless clash of concepts, and of ideas and the realities of 3D STS human existence... In addition, I'll admit I'm fairly apathetic to this idea and to all of the limited possibilities within a 3D STS existence apart from simply learning and progressing.

OSIT.


If on the other hand you are speaking of some sort of future within a STO realm:

Laura said:
There are a lot of things to which there are no simple answers. For example, I don't think that communisim, socialism, fascism or capitalism are the right way to go economically, but I'm not sure what IS the right way that would fulfill the needs of the majority of humans. How to separate what is essential to all, etc. Are there elements of each of those systems that are truly STO and if so, what? How to pull out what is useful and put it together?

I think it will be a very useful exercise to define things, to imagine things, to describe how things would be done in an STO world. Things like who decides things? How? Who owns things? How? Is there voting? How is it done? Who can vote?
Education... what is available to who and how? Who pays for it?

Social services: counseling, child-care, medicine, etc.

Literally every area of our society has been corrupted in one way or another, so how to re-imagine something that would really work? Re-think it, re-define and describe it?

Start anywhere. Maybe we should start talking about what is wrong with various systems and what could be done to fix them, if anything. If they are wrong at the foundation, what to replace them with?
If the idea is a genuine STO realm and existence, then thinking at all in terms of social institutions and ideologies will probably be fundamentally off the mark, the way of doing things - and the way of living - being completely different by nature.

In a truly STO world, people would naturally listen to each other in order to network all their knowledge and understanding; as such, government would be superfluous, people doing things according to a common understanding according to impeccable external considering. There would be a fluid, spontaneous organization of whatever was needed at the moment it was needed, whenever a need or challenge arose - and so no social institutions as such would be needed.

OSIT.
 
What do you think about Social threefolding point of views inspired by Rudolf Steiner?

[quote author=from the wikipedia page above]
Three realms of society

Steiner distinguished three realms of society:
the economy;
politics and human rights; and
cultural institutions.
He suggested that the three would only function together harmoniously when each was granted sufficient independence. This has become known as "social threefolding".

Separation between the state and cultural life
Examples: A government should not be able to control culture; i.e., how people think, learn, or worship. A particular religion or ideology should not control the levers of the State. Steiner held that pluralism and freedom were the ideal for education and cultural life.

Separation between the economy and cultural life
Examples: The fact that churches, temples and mosques do not make the ability to enter and participate depend on the ability to pay, and that libraries and some museums are open to all free of charge, is in tune with Steiner’s notion of a separation between cultural and economic life. In a similar spirit, Steiner held that all families, not just rich ones, should have freedom of choice in education and access to independent, non-government schools for their children. Other examples: A corporation should not be able to control the cultural sphere by using economic power to bribe schools into accepting ‘educational’ programs larded with advertising, or by secretly paying scientists to produce research results favorable to the business’s economic interests.

Separation between the state and the economy (stakeholder economics)
Examples: A rich man should be prevented from buying politicians and laws. A politician shouldn’t be able to parlay his political position into riches earned by doing favors for businessmen. Slavery is unjust, because it takes something political, a person’s inalienable rights, and absorbs them into the economic process of buying and selling. Steiner said, "In the old days, there were slaves. The entire man was sold as commodity... Today, capitalism is the power through which still a remnant of the human being—his labor power—is stamped with the character of a commodity." Steiner also advocated more cooperatively organized forms of capitalism (what might today be called stakeholder capitalism) precisely because conventional shareholder capitalism tends to absorb the State and human rights into the economic process and transform them into mere commodities.
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When I was 24 years old, I stayed in Freies Jugendseminar Engen in Germany for 3 months. Because I wanted to study Rudolf Steiner's ideas more through my whole being. It is a totally different system what Rudolf Steiner brought on Earth compared to the Forth Way system but I keep going back there to 'connect' dots time to time... And I see actual fruits of Rudolf Steiner's Work are resulting in, slow and little by little but very 'down to earth' way. In fact, I was surprised to know a daughter of my manager is attending a Waldorf School . :)
 
mkrnhr wrote:
if you have a system with a leader, leading local leaders etc, you create a pyramidal structure of power, and even if it starts with sane and benevolent people, it will attract psychopaths into it.

Agreed. I was trying to say that:
I like the idea of a single leader, but then such a system could become 'dynasty' like and become corrupted.
So I don't see you as being devilish.

I like the idea of participatory government, where there are no secrets and things are out in the open. Now I'm stuck wondering if getting people together, the meditations, dances etc.. would be the communal thing that brings groups together to share experiences, information, concepts, growth what's going on in the world. I think it would bring community.

What are some of the simple basics and laws that Govern STO vs. STS?

I keep thinking of the Matrix. The Oracle never made anyone do anything (STS). Everything was a freewill choice (STO).
Sorry if it appears I'm framing the discussion around Governing. There are so many variables to consider outside just that. Agriculture, Education, Children, Pathology, Humanitarian Acts, Diplomacy, Environment, Technology, Art, Transportation.. and how to keep it balanced and fair in an/the STO way.
 
Laura said:
what is wrong with our world and what they would like to see happen to make it right.

How to re-create our new world outside of the devil: in a nice order ;D
- Cut off 4D STS power supply,
- block their mind control techniques,
- fizzle their frequency fences.

Allowed to think freely humanity could use its immense creative energy unconstricted:
- at least 50% of things could turn out good
- Imagine countless inventions, doctors, scientists finally speaking up
- brilliant ideas unsupressed,
- very good educational-, healing- and pollution cleanup methods becoming widespread by word of mouth, thru media and the internet.

Creative revolution of the human Mind.

Eiriu Eolas already makes us smarter, people could better grok healthy ideas - become relatively free of pathology - once taught, informed.
- minimalize pathologic gene propagation

Nations would adjust themselves, people becoming brothers and sisters in increasing numbers once understanding that basically two human types exist. Then we would only have to fight our minds, ourselves, not super-powerful 4D STS as well. Even just cutting off 4D STS-backing from the pathocrats we would stand a much better chance informing pathologized society.

I know that it sounds wishful thinking and fluffy fantasy. I just think society has the self-healing Creative Catalyser in itself once pathocratic influence removed.
 
Like Anart, one of the first things that came to my mind was education.

One of the pillars of an STO world would be, I think, the principle that:
Laura said:
All persons should be equal in rights, but all are not identiical in ability and motivation and it is fruitless and wasteful to assume otherwise.

So one of the first things would be education and objective assessment of each person's potential. Each of us would be where he fits the best in terms of skills, natural abilities, dispositions, preferences, etc. so that they can grow harmoniously, thrive in what they do and thus contribute fruitfully to the community.

Laura wrote a great post about education, which I reproduce it here, as it can give us clues about what an ideal STO education system might look like:

How does natural learning take place? By imitating, by doing. The important point then becomes who is being imitated and what are they doing? Sad to say, the doers, the imitatees, the models of behavior for the vast majority of our children are media idols, the television and each other.

How does one learn to be a good father, a loving husband, an industrious breadwinner? By being in close and steady contact with someone who is all these things during their formative years. How does one learn to be a good mother, a loving wife, an industrious financial partner in a marriage? By being in close and steady contact with someone who is all these things during their formative years. How does one learn to be polite, socially gracious, honest, kind, just, and tolerant. By being in close and steady contact with someone who is all these things during their formative years.

With whom are our children in close and steady contact? Rock stars, sports heroes, actors in multiple, contradictory roles, and -- each other.

Where do human beings nowadays spend the majority of their formative years?

Nearly every single one, at this point in our history, started compulsory education at age five or six.

That thought alone should give us pause.

The Tender young child is torn form his family and sent to an institution with hundreds of other distraught young children to begin the process of education. All the natural impulses of the child are then formally categorized, limited, suppressed, mandated, organized and even drugged into oblivion. On top of this, the child is expected to learn to be an adult with primarily immature and ignorant peers (including psychopaths) for role models.

You cannot take a child, from an early age, for the major portion of his waking hours each day, for the major portion of a year, for the most of his formative years, tell him to stand up, sit down, get in line, be quiet, read this, read that, do this and do that, and then expect him to function on his own and make decisions on his own as an adult.

Thus, we institutionalize our children, expecting them to grow up and behave like adults, when in fact, they grow up to be exactly what we have made them -- institutional children in adult bodies. Some of them adjust to this, after a fashion, and live mediocre, frustrated lives. Many do not. Many, unable to act like adults, abuse their wives, husbands, children, lie, cheat, steal, kill, maim etc.-- all effects of an immature emotional nature. We have imparted the essence of education -- facts and figures -- and have neglected to fulfill the function of education: to enable the individual to live productively, happily and peaceably in his chosen field of endeavor.

Unfortunately, at this point in time, the preponderance of time spent in this "social institution of learning" cannot be balanced by parental example since most parents are products of exactly the same system.

We need to examine our priorities and establish some new guidelines and end the waste of both minds and funds.

We need to face some cold hard facts here. We are not all created equal in talent and ability. We are, supposedly, equal in the sight of the law in terms of "Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness" but in a system set up to perpetuate the rule of the wealthy, even that isn't realistically possible for most Americans though it is enshrined in the Declaration of Independence. What's more, we are not allowed fulfillment of this legal freedom if we spend twelve years in a learning environment which does not provide us with the skills to live a free and happy life.

Some children have the natural capabilities and interest to become scientists, or social workers, or landscapers or architects. Others have the talents to cook, paint, write poetry or care for the sick. Still others find joy in cleaning and organizing the environment or working with machinery and tools. It is patently obvious that twelve years spent in a compulsory standardized educational system - standardized to the lowest common denominator - is a great waste of time, money and talents.

First, everyone educable should be able to read and write. How else can they know what is going on in the world, which often is essential to their well being, or whether or not some subject interests them sufficiently to desire to pursue it as a career or hobby for their personal fulfillment and happiness?

Second, everyone should be able to add and subtract, multiply and divide. These skills are obviously necessary to function in society, to manage finances, to know if you are getting a good deal or are being cheated, etc.

It is absurd to think that it takes twelve years to accomplish this.


And since many respected studies indicate that abstract thinking develops in a child at about the age of nine, why spend six to eight hours a day for four years prior to that time using the rote method of learning?

For children ages four to eight it would be better to spend two to three hours per day simply becoming familiar with the fundamentals of reading and numbers as play and then allowing their own natural curiosity to direct their imitative activities in an environment where there is someone and something worthy of imitation. For a child, play is learning and the importance of presenting education in this context is tragically underestimated. When a child is tired of a certain game, they should be permitted to initiate a different one. They know when their brain has maximized the experience at hand. It is crucial to their curiosity, the fundamental element of genius, that their attention be allowed to flow naturally from one subject to the next which draws their interest.

The next level of education, from nine to twelve or thirteen should involve use of a more formalized setting. This is where our current system more naturally fits, though it would require some significant modification. Every branch of learning should be available in short course segments of about a month in length. The introductory courses should be about a half hour to forty-five minutes in duration and should consist of the basics in terms of that subject as well as exposure to what can be done with full knowledge of the subject particularly in relation to life and career matters.

At the end of each learning segment each child should be evaluated as to whether he has either the capacity or the desire or both, to pursue that particular discipline further. If he has neither, he should not be required to wilt in a learning environment that is neither of his choosing nor within his ability.

At the age of thirteen the child should be ready for apprenticeship in that field for which he has shown both ability and inclination or, if the child wishes to pursue an academic career and has the ability, he's old enough for university style education to begin.


Children whose parents understand the narrow parameters of personal growth and achievement inherent in the public school system, and who opt for alternative methods of education until such time as the system, itself, can be drastically altered -- be it private school or home school -- should be encouraged and supported. There are plenty of reliable statistics showing that children educated by their parents are, in most cases, superior to those in public schools. Parents who are motivated, responsible and loving enough to want the best for their children, and have thereby rejected public schools are the kind of role models needed to produce those superior individuals humanity needs to reverse the trend toward total mediocrity if not, in fact, ultimate dissolution. (On the other hand, religious home-schoolers are fanatics and generally produce very disturbed children.)

Case after case can be cited of persons with unusual and innovative educations who have gone on to become the pathfinders, the geniuses of our race. I believe that our lack in this regard is due to the fact that we have come to think that freedom and democracy equal legislative mandating of equal education.

All persons should be equal in rights, but all are not identiical in ability and motivation and it is fruitless and wasteful to assume otherwise.


How much time and money is wasted on pouring equal amounts of identical information into millions of minds, most of which neither care nor, worst of all, will ever use it again once the final exam is over. How much better to invest the time and money in those who are sufficiently motivated to seek out information and work to acquire it? Once the child can read and write and do basic math, if they are neither ready nor desirous of further factual information, let their education consist of an apprenticeship in something that suits their abilities and personality with perhaps additional instruction in social matters such as courting, marriage, parenting.

Left to their own devices, with intensive role modeling, (this is the sort of activity they naturally engage in anyway), the natural curiosity and motivation to seek fuller educational experience will blossom in those in whom it is inherent. And when it does, encourage and reward it with satisfaction of the thirst for knowledge. If an individual sits at a table and is not hungry or does not like the fare, must we cram it down his throat? Provide them with a steady flow of appropriate role models in the form of films depicting life's ideals. Provide them with books of the same ideal ilk. Involve the parents. Teach the parents. Forget the cramming for exams. Educate children to be adult and responsible humans.

Educating is a lot like gardening. No amount of pruning, fertilizer or water will turn a lily into a rose or a rose into an oak. Some plants thrive in full sun, some partial, some like the shade. The unfruitfulness of our education system is indicative of a lack of knowledge and skill on the part of the gardeners. We need to talk serious reform and give each and every individual child the education which will enable him to be productive, happy and peaceable within himself and our society. "Equal opportunity" is contradicted and made equal mediocrity by the American Public school system as it exists today.

How many Lockes, Rousseaus, Jeffersons, Shelleys and Lincolns have we molded into John Q. Public or twisted into psychopathic misfits?
 
Thinking about how we could get from where we are now to a more STO world, the first thing I would do would be to award every person living on the planet a Citizen’s Income, which would guarantee a basic standard of living, as a human right.

You get it because you are alive on planet Earth, no other qualification necessary. How would this be paid for? Just look at the total global arms spending last year. As a beginning, we wouldn’t need to change anything apart from diverting the money spent on war to a more creative purpose.

Reuters said:
STOCKHOLM, June 8 [2009] (Reuters) - Global military spending reached a record $1,464 billion last year with the United States taking up by far the biggest share of the total, Stockholm International Peace Research Institute (SIPRI) said on Monday.

That is US$244 for every man, woman and child on this planet.

The Citizen’s Income would not be taxable or means tested. Taxes would be paid by anyone who chose to work.

Going further, for this example, the basic cost of a decent standard of living per person could therefore be fixed at US$244 (I’m using US dollars in this example because the Reuters article I quoted uses them) and from that figure all other costs can be calculated.
 
Thanks for making this thread!

I'm not really one of the smart ones, but what I like to add is that a good start would be to stop spraying foods. There shouldn't be separate shops that sell organic foods, everything should be organic. I wonder, how would such a world be?
If everyone had knowledge about the way they should eat.

If people would learn @ school which foods they should eat or avoid, that would make the world so much better. Or so I think. Just some thoughts...

(wouldn't it be ''funny'' if more and more sott forum members/QFG members graduate from school and try to get ''in the system'' and start making some big and different decisions than others would make? Maybe act your way up and act as if you are like all the others (or most), with all their selfish ideas and then when you're up there; sneaky do it differently. If a lot of people would do that, could that change anything? Dunno. Just a thought.)
 
This may sound a little weird, but I would like to add my two cents.

The thing I hate about being STS(though I know it is necessary to learn the lessons) is manipulating the nature for our own advantages. I would like to see a scientific approach which involves spiritual and material aspects of the subject, like Cassiopaea Experiment. This approach should be used in any scientific endeavor. I am speculating here, but I think in a STO world, our knowledge would be much higher, and personally, I would like to know the molecular aspects of Nature, how living things born, die,live, what substances/energies affect them and they cause what in that organism. To sum up, I would like to know what are the possibilities of an organism.

Tied to that concept, I would imagine, with the knowledge we have, we can look at the genetics of individuals and determine what are their strengths, what are their weaknesses etc. Then, we can determine who carry psychopathic traits, who have genetic predisposition towards lets say a schizoid and we can investigate how to counteract schizoidal influences. We can form small groups within communities whose jobs are raising and educating those children in an ideal learning environment according to their strengths and weaknesses. Also those groups can instruct the families how to raise their children. A child could attend various groups in different times of his/her life, so nothing is written on stone. The choice of the child is also important, he/she can state what he/she wants to do and his/her input will be added to the final decision.

I don't know if this sounds like genetic determinism or my pathological thinking about how to control people, but that's what I think when you mentioned an ideal society.
 
IMHO, any STO society should acknowledge the very existence of the STS reality and its right to exist. The main challenge is not to feed this STS reality. By their own nature the STO beings could live happy together and create overwhelming good. But in the same realm there is that STS reality for balance, and they have to find a way not to be endangered by the STS, not feeding it, and at the same time not denying its existence. In a word, we should find something to occupy the STS forces, to divert them ;)
 
Ok, here's my humble brainstorming. :)

I agree with the idea of a council replacing leadership (like a Jedi council, hehe). Ideally, the council should be composed of the 'elders' or wisest, but how to determine who are those might be a problem in countries or societies at large, not so much in smaller communities. Maybe there should be a law that prohibits the council ever being less than a certain number of people. And the model of councils could be reproduced to every single organization: workplaces, schools, agencies, whatever.

Economically, I think there should be a balance between socialism and capitalism. Socialism should be used to guarantee that everyone gets their essential needs covered in order to stay alive, healthy, educated and above the poverty line: health, food, housing, and education. The capitalist model should be used to creatively expand into every other area of human life. I think that to some extent this is the idea in some western countries that are or were following the 'third way' model (capitalism with socialist traits). In principle it is not a bad idea, and if it doesn't make a lot of positive difference it might be due to ponerization. But still, it is much better than privatizing the most basic stuff, like health care! That's criminal, imo.

Another alternative is to encourage ways to make people as self-sufficient as possible on their own or at the level of local communities, through cooperatives, for example. I believe this is sort of what they have done in Cuba to survive the blockade, with the result that although no one is rich, nobody starves because the cooperative owns greenhouses where fruits and veggies are sold super cheap to the local community. That way, whatever happens with the economy at large, people could always fall back to the basics and be fine.

Financial speculation should be somehow abolished!

The salaries should be equal for everyone within the same organization, or almost equal. In our world, CEOs earn obscenely more money than the cleaning guy. But the organization as a whole needs of everyone's contribution to reach its goals. A company can make profit, but that should be distributed equally among all of its members. Also, companies following capitalist models should be required to pay back to the community by investing in social programs. Many companies do this, but most of them do it to a very little extent and only for purposes of public relations. What if they were required to do so in a serious way?

In regards to punishment for criminals, I think that the rationale behind it should always be: to give the offender a chance to learn from his mistakes, if possible, and reintegrate into society normally; or to protect society from the offender if he is not willing or cannot stop offending (as in a psychopath). Therefore incarceration or exile would be options, but not the death penalty, as there is no point in it - and obviously no torture!

Firearms and anything deadlier should probably be prohibited for everyone, including the government. Therefore, no armies in a perfect world.
 
Windmill knight said:
Ok, here's my humble brainstorming. :)

I agree with the idea of a council replacing leadership (like a Jedi council, hehe). Ideally, the council should be composed of the 'elders' or wisest, but how to determine who are those might be a problem in countries or societies at large, not so much in smaller communities. Maybe there should be a law that prohibits the council ever being less than a certain number of people. And the model of councils could be reproduced to every single organization: workplaces, schools, agencies, whatever.

The last chapter of Political Ponerology, "A vision of the future", provides a good model that comes close to an STO society, IMO. He also speaks of a "council of Wise men":

Lobaczewki said:
A careful reading of this book may cause us to discern the outlines of a creative vision of such a future societal system so sorely needed by nations suffering under pathocratic rule; if so, this represents a reward for the author’s effort rather than re- sults of pure chance. Just such a vision accompanied me throughout the period of my work on this book (although the latter nowhere indicates a name nor any more precise details for it), rendering assistance and proving a useful support in the future. In some way, it is thus present on the pages and be- tween the lines of this work.

Such a social system of the future would have to guarantee its citizens wide scope personal freedom and an open door to utilizing their creative possibilities in both individual and col- lective efforts. At the same time, however, it must not indicate the well known weaknesses manifested by a democracy in its domestic and foreign policy. Not only should individuals’ per- sonal interest and the common good be appropriately balanced in such a system; they should be woven right into the overall picture of social life at the level where an understanding of its laws causes any discrepancy between them to disappear. The opinion of the wide mass of the citizenry, dictated primarily by the voices of basic intelligence and dependent upon the natural world view, should be balanced by the skills of people who utilize an objective cognition of reality and possess the appro- priate training in their special areas. Appropriate and well thought out system solutions should be used for this purpose.

The foundations for practical solutions within such an im- proved system would contain criteria such as creating the right conditions for enriched development of human personalities including the psychological world view, whose societal role has already been adduced. Individual socio-professional adap- tation, the creation of an interpersonal network, and a healthy active socio-psychological structure should be facilitated to the maximum possible extent.

Structural, legal, and economic solutions should be consid- ered in such a way that fulfilling these criteria would also open the door for an individual’s optimal self-realization within so- cial life, which would simultaneously be for the good of the community. Other traditional criteria such as the dynamics of economic development will thereupon prove secondary to these more general values. The result of this would be the nation’s economic development, political skill, and creative role in the international sphere.

The priorities in terms of value criteria would thus shift consistently in the direction of psychological, social, and moral data. This is in keeping with the spirit of the times, but actual execution thereof demands imaginative effort and constructive thought in order to achieve the above-mentioned practical goals. After all, everything begins and ends within the human psyche.

Such a system would have to be evolutionary by nature, as it would be based upon an acceptance of evolution as a law of nature. Natural evolutionary factors would play an important role therein, such as the course of cognition continually proc- essing from more primitive and easily accessible data to more actual, intrinsic, and subtle matters. The principle of evolution would have to be imprinted firmly enough upon the basic phi- losophical foundations of such a system so as to protect it con- sistently from future revolution.

Such a social system would by nature be more resistant to the danger of having macrosocial pathological phenomena develop within. Its foundations would be an improved devel- opment of the psychological world view and society’s links structure coupled with a scientific and social consciousness of the essence of such phenomena. This should furnish the foun- dation for mature methods of education. Such a system should also have built-in permanent institutions which were heretofore unknown and whose task will be preventing the development of ponerogenic processes within society, particularly among governing authorities.

A “Council of Wise Men” would be an institution com- posed of several people with extremely high general, medical, and psychological qualifications; it would have the right to examine the physical and psychological health of candidates before the latter are elected to the highest government posi- tions. A negative council opinion should be hard to challenge. That same council would serve the head of state, the legislative authorities, and the executives regarding counsel in matters entering its scope of scientific competence. It would also ad- dress the public in important matters of biological and psycho- logical life, indicating essential moral aspects. Such a council’s duties would also include maintaining contact and discussions with the religious authorities in such matters.
The security system for persons with various psychological deviations would be in charge of making their life easier while skillfully limiting their participation in the processes of the genesis of evil.
After all, such persons are not impervious to persuasion provided it is based upon proper knowledge of the matter. Such an approach would also help progressively dimin- ish societies’ gene pool burdens of hereditary aberrations. The Council of Wise Men would furnish the scientific supervision for such activities.

The legal system would be subjected to wide ranging trans- formations in virtually every area, progressing from formulae whose establishment was based on a society’s natural world view and ancient tradition to legal solutions based upon an objective apperception of reality, particularly the psychological one. As a result, law studies would have to undergo true mod- ernization, since the law would become a scientific discipline sharing the same epistemological principles as all the other sciences.

What is now called “penal” law would be superseded by another kind of law with a completely modernized foundation based on an understanding of the genesis of evil and of the personalities of people who commit evil. Such law would be significantly more humanitarian while furnishing individuals and societies more effective protection from undeserved abuse. Of course, the operational measures would be much more complex and more dependent upon a better understanding of causation than could ever possibly be the case in a punitive system. A trend toward transformations in this direction is evi- dent in the legislation of civilized nations. The social system proposed herein would have to break through traditions in this area in a more effective way.

No government whose system is based on an understanding of the laws of nature, whether concerning physical and biologi- cal phenomena or the nature of man, can lay a claim to sover- eignty in the meaning we have inherited from the nineteenth century and subsequent nationalistic or totalitarian systems. We share the same air and water throughout our planet. Common cultural values and basic moral criteria are becoming wide spread. The world is interlinked in transportation, communica- tion, and trade and has become Our Planet. Under such condi- tions, interdependence and cooperation with other nations and supranational institutions, as well as moral responsibility for overall fate, become a law of nature. The national organism becomes autonomous but not independent. This must be regu- lated by means of the appropriate treaties and incorporated into national constitutions.

A system thus envisaged would be superior to all its prede- cessors, being based upon an understanding of the laws of na- ture operating within individuals and societies, with objective knowledge progressively superceding opinions based upon natural responses to phenomena. We should call it a “LOGOCRACY”.

Due to their properties and conformity to the laws of nature and evolution, logocratic systems could guarantee social and international order on a long-term basis. In keeping with their nature, they would then become transformed into more perfect forms, a vague and faraway vision of which may beckon to us in the present.

The author has survived many dangerous situations and be- come disappointed with many people and institutions. How- ever, the Great Providence has never disappointed him under the most difficult circumstances. This condition suffices to permit him to promise that elaborating a more detailed draft for such a necessary better system will also be possible.
 
What a great topic!

Like Anart and Pai, my first thought was about education. First, education should be free so that everyone can be a part of it. Ponorology and psychopathy should be taught to kids at an early age. History should be a big part of our education system as well. The idea being to teach the future generation what not to do and to learn from our mistakes as a civilization.

I think at its core the idea of communism was a good idea… meaning equality for all. I know that communism became very corrupt, but I think that was very much due to the psychopathy within our world. Imagine if that was not a factor… Basically I believe everyone and everything should be equal. No bigotry, racism, sexism and all that junk. The idea of class should be gotten rid of as well, i.e. rich and poor.

Medicine and telecommunication/networking should be free!

Another big one that I really would like to mention is getting rid of the idea of monotheism. I think as a civilization we need to get over the idea of religion and worshiping a male God. We need to expand our minds to spirituality and getting in touch with our higher-self. Again, spirituality should be taught in school at a very early age. Just like religion is taught to us at an early age currently.

Those were some of my thoughts for now.
 

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