Dear Laura, whats going on?

[Deleted member 11729]

I would suggest that when your life is an example to others of how to be and do, you can give valid criticism and advice. The mods and ambassadors spend a LOT of time in service to others and when a possible mistake is made, they deserve allowance.

Attempt to align your self to service to others is not an easy task at all, as there is tons of little glitches that can come up on our way in our intent to be STO oriented, and it is in fundamental service to others to be able to "forgive" or not to judge, or actually to try be in other person "skin", before we make conclusion on their action, that have to bee non judgmental but critical if we think that this critics will improve our understanding of person action, and as well as to motivate person to look into possible corruption of their STO intent ...

If we consider that we are all actually 3D STS basic conglomerate, with intent to become STO oriented, than it is not about how much someone on surface spend time to share ideas thoughts and information for free to others ( any way sharing means free ;), and monetization of knowledge is always dangerous and corruptive part of spiritual path any way ), but it is more bout WHY one do that ... as much as how I understand STO orientation, it is always important to be aware is our intent is truly to serve others in this journey of Knowledge on the earth, or is it guided by covet desire to make it easy for ourself through sharing ... well line is thin, and from my experience life through Work is actually a game play between those two intents, and it is the point when you see that all you do as STO intent, at some pints have deep covert STS intent to serve to your needs, while thinking that is all you do for others ...

so ... in general what I think is that in a group of people who decided to work hard to be STO oriented, if the person is giving the max to understanding of that concept, than making mistakes is just a part of that process that is based on STO orientation basic intent ... and it is a life time journey, in this stage ...

And as about new Cs session ... since I received my crystals I am more disciplined to do the Work, and I feel more connectedness on some "upper" level with my mind, what actually is also helping me to glide through materials already established by C and FOTCM on a way to be able to read through them on more timeless way ... difficult to explain, but on a way sessions are "all around us" already ... ;) ... and before I was in mood of expectations but now, I feel like I am on the surfing board and no time to pause for a session, but better to be in general tuned in with sharpe perception all the time ...

 

[Azur]

Well, as it happens, what Menna wrote ("New C's session? Laura must be busy.") was something along the lines of what went through my mind from time to time as well. Let's face it, there were so many both extraordinary and "chilling" events recently, that it is pretty natural to be curious about what the C's would have to say about it. Sure, it is important to learn how to figure out things without being "spoon-fed", but then there is nothing like receiving confirmation or answers to one's speculations.

That's why Laura's observation ("Perhaps OTHERS are feeling a little cranky because we haven't had a recent session.") is possibly so amazingly accurate. After all, here comes Menna and dares to say what many of us thought, and probably numerous times. How dares he to expose our own inpatient wants, even if only to ourselves. ;D

Of course, it is a matter of good manners and being grateful to Laura and others for everything that's already been given. Besides, it is true that we are at the point where we can figure out most of the things by ourselves. But here's also a small video to show why we do need more "knowledgable" answers from time to time. ;)

Thank you for that Keit. That warmed my heart, and I hope others see it too.

 

[DougEE]

The timing of Menna's quest for a new "session" seems to mirror the establishment's quest for a new "Sessions".
_https://www.sott.net/article/344238-Trump-expresses-total-confidence-in-Jeff-Sessions-amid-establishment-calls-for-his-resignation

Perhaps the Universe/Cosmic Mind is reflecting grander events through our network.

 

[tohuwabohu]

Perhaps OTHERS are feeling a little cranky because we haven't had a recent session.

What is WRONG with you supermoderators, ambassadors, moderators and whatever. Menna didn't do anything wrong just stated the obvious. Is it a crime? Perhaps you should get in check your selfimportance.
Sorry but feel a little bit cranky myself :P

Menna please do not go away because of this because we will miss you.

To be fair, it's not only the mods/ambassadors who responded the way they did, yet you chose to specifically call them out in your post. Why is that?

:) So what do have all those who attacked Menna in common?

 

[genero81]

Well, as it happens, what Menna wrote ("New C's session? Laura must be busy.") was something along the lines of what went through my mind from time to time as well. Let's face it, there were so many both extraordinary and "chilling" events recently, that it is pretty natural to be curious about what the C's would have to say about it. Sure, it is important to learn how to figure out things without being "spoon-fed", but then there is nothing like receiving confirmation or answers to one's speculations.

That's why Laura's observation ("Perhaps OTHERS are feeling a little cranky because we haven't had a recent session.") is possibly so amazingly accurate. After all, here comes Menna and dares to say what many of us thought, and probably numerous times. How dares he to expose our own inpatient wants, even if only to ourselves. ;D

Of course, it is a matter of good manners and being grateful to Laura and others for everything that's already been given. Besides, it is true that we are at the point where we can figure out most of the things by ourselves. But here's also a small video to show why we do need more "knowledgable" answers from time to time. ;)

Thank you for that Keit. That warmed my heart, and I hope others see it too.

Yes, very well put Keit! I'm not cranky about it but I have been checking weekly hoping, hoping... I just like sessions. Since the 96 annotated transcripts came out, I realized I hadn't read 94 and 95 so I got all three and read them all recently. Just like with the Wave, I'm a little disappointed when I come to the end because they stimulate so much insight. As I've grown however, I've learned patience. All things in due time. No since in trying to rush things. I lived like that for too long and it wasn't productive.

 

[tohuwabohu]

I would suggest that when your life is an example to others of how to be and do, you can give valid criticism and advice. The mods and ambassadors spend a LOT of time in service to others and when a possible mistake is made, they deserve allowance.

If we consider that we are all actually 3D STS basic conglomerate, with intent to become STO oriented, than it is not about how much someone on surface spend time to share ideas thoughts and information for free to others ( any way sharing means free ;), and monetization of knowledge is always dangerous and corruptive part of spiritual path any way ), but it is more bout WHY one do that ... as much as how I understand STO orientation, it is always important to be aware is our intent is truly to serve others in this journey of Knowledge on the earth, or is it guided by covet desire to make it easy for ourself through sharing ... well line is thin, and from my experience life through Work is actually a game play between those two intents, and it is the point when you see that all you do as STO intent, at some pints have deep covert STS intent to serve to your needs, while thinking that is all you do for others ...

Very nicely and clearly expressed solarmind. That is precisely correct.

 

[Laura]

I would suggest that when your life is an example to others of how to be and do, you can give valid criticism and advice. The mods and ambassadors spend a LOT of time in service to others and when a possible mistake is made, they deserve allowance.

If we consider that we are all actually 3D STS basic conglomerate, with intent to become STO oriented, than it is not about how much someone on surface spend time to share ideas thoughts and information for free to others ( any way sharing means free ;), and monetization of knowledge is always dangerous and corruptive part of spiritual path any way ), but it is more bout WHY one do that ... as much as how I understand STO orientation, it is always important to be aware is our intent is truly to serve others in this journey of Knowledge on the earth, or is it guided by covet desire to make it easy for ourself through sharing ... well line is thin, and from my experience life through Work is actually a game play between those two intents, and it is the point when you see that all you do as STO intent, at some pints have deep covert STS intent to serve to your needs, while thinking that is all you do for others ...

Very nicely and clearly expressed solarmind. That is precisely correct.

I think the two of you should join a different forum then.

 

[pete02]

I would suggest that when your life is an example to others of how to be and do, you can give valid criticism and advice. The mods and ambassadors spend a LOT of time in service to others and when a possible mistake is made, they deserve allowance.

If we consider that we are all actually 3D STS basic conglomerate, with intent to become STO oriented, than it is not about how much someone on surface spend time to share ideas thoughts and information for free to others ( any way sharing means free ;), and monetization of knowledge is always dangerous and corruptive part of spiritual path any way ), but it is more bout WHY one do that ... as much as how I understand STO orientation, it is always important to be aware is our intent is truly to serve others in this journey of Knowledge on the earth, or is it guided by covet desire to make it easy for ourself through sharing ... well line is thin, and from my experience life through Work is actually a game play between those two intents, and it is the point when you see that all you do as STO intent, at some pints have deep covert STS intent to serve to your needs, while thinking that is all you do for others ...

Very nicely and clearly expressed solarmind. That is precisely correct.

I think the two of you should join a different forum then.

tohuwabohu and solarmind I think what your missing here is a little understanding for what the Mods and Ambassadors are going through. Just as Laura said there are times where they deserve some allowance and this is one of those instances where I completely agree. Once you see first hand how much they have on their plates as well as taking care of every day life you can easily understand that they have a pretty big work load going on and then have to find time to help others on the forum here which I think they do a great job at. I couldn't do it and unless you think you can I wouldn't be so quick to criticize them for jumping the gun in this instance. If the teacher makes a mistake in the classroom it doesn't give the students the right to attack him/her imo.

The real issue here is the fact that so much discussion is happening about all this and yet the person who started it still has not come back to explain why. I'm pretty sure Menna was just curious about when the next session will be coming but we all know that Laura is one of the busiest people on the planet so him starting this thread was really not necessary and with all that's come out of this he should explain his actions or at least apologize for causing it.

 

[zak]

Perhaps OTHERS are feeling a little cranky because we haven't had a recent session.

What is WRONG with you supermoderators, ambassadors, moderators and whatever. Menna didn't do anything wrong just stated the obvious. Is it a crime? Perhaps you should get in check your selfimportance.
Sorry but feel a little bit cranky myself :P

Menna please do not go away because of this because we will miss you.

To be fair, it's not only the mods/ambassadors who responded the way they did, yet you chose to specifically call them out in your post. Why is that?

:) So what do have all those who attacked Menna in common?

They have already taken note in apologizing to Menna.
And "all those people have in common", something that you already know Marius:

I would like to thank all of you and I mean ALL who are participating in the forum because you were here for me. You created something of unspeakable value. Where else in this world people help each other like you do here? Where else I could ask for help and actually be given what I ask for? Well maybe in some Inuit village ok. But you created whole new world, real world, where people help each other and thus are doing real work. Because you are doing something that matters. That actually makes difference. You are changing lives of other people by helping them, and trust me even if you help only one person, you have just changed universe, because each of you is the whole universe. Even though I was not active on the forum for the last two years I was always with you and I will always be.

_Dixit tohuwabohu.

 

[Deleted member 11729]

Dear Pete, I didn't criticize any one, indeed, I was just referring to the point of my understanding what STO orientation means, and in that sense, from my experience, I am not really able to be judgmental to anyone in their steps of development, if intent to me is clear to be STO orientation, so with admins and moderators it is obvious what orientation is for them important, special because as 3D STS individuals we are always on a slippery ground, and no point to be hard on each other if intent to be STO oriented is obvious through life work and examples of person ... but, please if you can show me where my writings made you think that I am criticizing, or negatively, and with luck of understanding, approaching towards them ?

Dera Laura, yes sure ... there is also other places of interest for development of STO orientation ... it is not exclusive matter of FOTCM ... I know that ... but what made you think that we are at wrong forum? Does that mean also that we are not STO oriented in our way of expressing our understanding of the concept? Can this forum help me to improve my intentions to follow STO path? So far I think it can ... and I am tankful for that ...

 

[Joe]

While some members overreacted to Menna's comment "Laura must be busy", and while Laura said she didn't find it "offensive", his post did come across as somewhat insincere and even a little manipulative.

Menna could have been honest and clear (which we advocate here in order to prevent misunderstandings) by asking a question, something along the lines of: "I wonder if Laura is busy and that is why there has not been a session in a few months?" Instead he stated "Laura must be busy" which is an assumption, and more to the point, an unnecessary assumption because he could have simply asked a direct question.

When someone chooses to make an assumption about someone rather than asking to find out what is REALLY going on, it is reasonable to assume that the person may have a 'bee in their bonnet' to some extent. or are being guarded or simply lazy. As already noted however, rather than asking Menna directly if this is the case, some members came on a little too strong, but their 'instinctive' negative reaction to Menna's assumption is understandable in my opinion. It was just that the delivery of that instinct was off.

As to other members going off into discussions of "STO orientation" on the basis of the initial post by Menna, that to me seems like little more than wiseacreing.

 

[Joe]

Dear Pete, I didn't criticize any one, indeed, I was just referring to the point of my understanding what STO orientation means, and in that sense, from my experience, I am not really able to be judgmental to anyone in their steps of development, if intent to me is clear to be STO orientation, so with admins and moderators it is obvious what orientation is for them important, special because as 3D STS individuals we are always on a slippery ground, and no point to be hard on each other if intent to be STO oriented is obvious through life work and examples of person ... but, please if you can show me where my writings made you think that I am criticizing, or negatively, and with luck of understanding, approaching towards them ?

The problem is that this discussion, this topic, has nothing to do with "STO orientation", so you bringing it up based on your reading of what was said recently in this topic suggests that you are missing the point and diverting the topic. If you'd like to discuss "STO orientation" there are several other threads where such a discussion would fit.

 

[Joe]

:) So what do have all those who attacked Menna in common?

They all, (unlike you perhaps), are able to spot manipulation (conscious or not) when they see it.

 

[bjorb]

[quote author= Solarmind]if intent to me is clear to be STO orientation, so with admins and moderators it is obvious what orientation is for them important, special because as 3D STS individuals we are always on a slippery ground, and no point to be hard on each other if intent to be STO oriented is obvious through life work and examples of person ... but, please if you can show me where my writings made you think that I am criticizing, or negatively, and with luck of understanding, approaching towards them ?[/quote]

I think that the intent behind the people reacting was good. But even than it's possible to take the wrong approach at times. That's all and it can happen to the best of us.

 

[Inquorate]

Wow, dropped in for my weekly checkup to this forum, only to find everyone with their knickers in a knot.

Ego, or εγώ in greek (I am) = discord.

Maybe we all need to accept that everyone here in this time and place is having a rough time of it. Just look at all the baked noodles out there. They aren't faring well because of cosmic influences, and we're no different.

When anger rises, the brain actually shuts down. It is the flight fight reflex. How can knowledge protect if we turn off the knowledge machine?

Keep calm, forgive one another.

My 2 cents.