Descriptions of the "afterlife"/5th Density

[Gruchaa]

Hello!
One question came into my head recently and felt that I need to post here.
If I remember correctly C’s said that time is an illusion and we feel it, cause it is just focusing our consciousness in particular “spacetime” in our journey. If this is the case, what happens after our death? Are we still focusing our consciousness in that particular lifetime but in “afterdeath” state or we just staring focusing ourselves somewhere else and forgetting/restaring our memories? Will it be the case that from our today 3d perspective we will forget “ourselves”? Or from different angle: if we are focusing our consciousness of our today life - does it mean that this life is one of the important ones? Or if time does not exists and everything happens right now - why are we conscious only of this one life? Let me know if I sound understandable:)

 

[Claus]

I would suggest to watch videos or read books from people who have had an NDE (Near Death Experience).
You will see things more clear. But you have to hear more then just two storys, so you can see a more complete immage of that.
I watch this channel: https://www.youtube.com/@TheOtherSideNDEYT.

 

[PERLOU]

D'après ce que j'ai appris dans les livres depuis très jeune (j'aurai 68 ans cette année), j'ai toujours voulu savoir le "pourquoi sommes nous ici ?"
Certains racontent que vous êtes accompagnés par un être de lumière ou des parents aimés qui vous aident pendant la transition,
vous revoyez d'abord votre dernières vie avec les leçons que vous aviez décidées d'apprendre, celles que vous avez apprises et celle que vous avez manquées... Vous pouvez avoir accès à vos vies précédentes...
Personne d'autre que vous-même ne vous juge et vous êtes votre propre juge sans aucune indulgence...
Vous comprenez beaucoup car vous avez accès à la connaissance...
Pour d'autres, ils restent là à errer sur la terre sans pouvoir ni être vus, ni entendus par ceux qu'ils ont laissés derrière eux...
Ils se lamentent... Jusqu'à ce qu'ils demandent de l'aide que les êtres de lumières attendent patiemment...
Je pense qu'il y a autant de façon de vivre sa mort que de façon de naître sur cette planète qui n'est qu'une autre façon de mourir à l'au-delà... La Mort n'existe pas...

From what I have learned from books since I was very young (I will be 68 this year), I have always wanted to know the "why are we here?"
Some say that you are accompanied by a light being or loved ones who help you during the transition,
you first review your last life with the lessons you decided to learn, those you learned and those you missed... You can access your previous lives...
No one but yourself judges you and you are your own judge without any indulgence...
You understand a lot because you have access to knowledge...
For others, they are left wandering the earth unable to be seen or heard by those they have left behind...
They lament... Until they ask for help which the light beings are patiently waiting for...

 

[Curious Beagle]

Hello!
One question came into my head recently and felt that I need to post here.
If I remember correctly C’s said that time is an illusion and we feel it, cause it is just focusing our consciousness in particular “spacetime” in our journey. If this is the case, what happens after our death? Are we still focusing our consciousness in that particular lifetime but in “afterdeath” state or we just staring focusing ourselves somewhere else and forgetting/restaring our memories? Will it be the case that from our today 3d perspective we will forget “ourselves”? Or from different angle: if we are focusing our consciousness of our today life - does it mean that this life is one of the important ones? Or if time does not exists and everything happens right now - why are we conscious only of this one life? Let me know if I sound understandable:)

when you die you go to 5D a realm border between physical and spiritual. Your soul return to 5D just like every night when you sleep/dream. Spiritual realm is a thoughtform. Your memory of all your past or future life/alternate life will all be available for review as ideas/ energy can't be destroy. The veil of forgetfulness are mostly in the denser realm the higher your frequency the more you remember. This help you to choose freely for preferred polarity/direction at each moment of decision making without previous attachment (full memory will only affect your choices). Your soul is basically accumulation of ideas/attitude from all lesson learned so far. Dead period is to review, rest, and plan for your next reincarnation lesson contract. I guess each life reincarnation is equally important for a particular soul as an opportunity to grow from lesson plan/ on the way up. Some soul learn faster than other so pace yourself at speed convenient to you. The harder the lesson the more severe the suffering, but being overly ambitious you might not understand the lesson instead blaming it on others thus missing the point. If you manage to live in advance 4D society with time machine tech you can actually come into contact with numerous other selves version of you. I hope this help answer your questions.

 

[Wandering Star]

when you die you go to 5D a realm border between physical and spiritual. Your

Although the C's say that from 1 to 4 is physical (4 with physical variability) and from 5 to 6 is spirituality or non-physical.

Just a note.

 

[Olivierlejardinier]

when you die you go to 5D a realm border between physical and spiritual.

Although the C's say that from 1 to 4 is physical (4 with physical variability) and from 5 to 6 is spirituality or non-physical.

In 5D, physical realm is still present as a possibility of choice by a soul. Free will allowing to (re-)incarnate.

To step to 6D could be that a soul definitelly renounces this possibility, and choose to join a "soul group" who have made the exact same choice, thus being able to gain access to another realm of knowledge/being.

As a note to the note...

 

[Wandering Star]

In 5D, physical realm is still present as a possibility of choice by a soul. Free will allowing to (re-)incarnate.

To step to 6D could be that a soul definitelly renounces this possibility, and choose to join a "soul group" who have made the exact same choice, thus being able to gain access to another realm of knowledge/being.

As a note to the note...

I suppose that when someone gets to have "physicality variability" they will be able to affirm with some certainty everything relative to these matters.

I cannot be as certain as you about the validity of all this.

 

[aragorn]

I thought it could be helpful to make a list of all the interesting books mentioned in this thread. So I decided to make one.

I've omitted some books that are not directly related, and I may have missed some entries.

I can't vouch for the quality of all the books in this list since I haven't read all of them, and there's anyway no clear consensus on them here on the forum. I did, however, omit the books by Michael Newton since it has been stated by Laura that he uses way too leading questioning in his hypnosis sessions to be taken seriously (I, too, couldn't finish reading 'Journey of Souls' because of this reason).

From what I could gather, the authors that are most appreciated and trusted here regarding afterlife experiences are: Stafford Betty, Raymond Moody, and Kenneth Ring. I'm currently reading 'Heading Towards Omega' by Ring, and I think it's pretty good.

Anyways, you can find the list below, and I've also attached the list as a PDF file. Feel free to add and/or correct the list!

Afterlife books list

1. When Did You Ever Become Less By Dying?
   by Stafford Betty
   Amazon.com: When Did You Ever Become Less By Dying? AFTERLIFE: The Evidence: 9781786770042: Betty, Stafford: Books
   
2. The Afterlife Unveiled: What the Dead are Telling Us About Their World
   by Stafford Betty
   Amazon.com: The Afterlife Unveiled: What the Dead are Telling Us About Their World: 8601404712234: Betty, Stafford: Books
   
3. Heaven and Hell Unveiled: Updates from the World of Spirit
   by Stafford Betty
   Amazon.com: Heaven and Hell Unveiled: Updates from the World of Spirit: 9781910121306: Betty, Stafford: Books
   
4. Life After Life: The Bestselling Original Investigation That Revealed "Near-Death Experiences" by Raymond Moody
   Life After Life: The Bestselling Original Investigation That Revealed "Near-Death Experiences" - Kindle edition by Moody, Raymond. Religion & Spirituality Kindle eBooks @ Amazon.com.
   
5. Reflections on Life After Life
   by Dr. Raymond Moody
   https://a.co/d/fwzTwb4
   
6. The Light Beyond
   by Dr. Raymond Moody, Paul Perry
   https://a.co/d/7eS0tv4
   
7. Glimpses of Eternity: Sharing a Loved One's Passage From This Lifetime to the Next
   by Raymond Moody, Paul Perry
   https://a.co/d/9QCEYoT
   
8. Paranormal: My Life in Pursuit of the Afterlife
   by Raymond Moody, Paul Perry
   https://a.co/d/5vBu0mD
   
9. Embraced by the Light: The Most Profound and Complete Near-Death Experience Ever
   Betty J. Eadie (Author)
   https://a.co/d/3exkPiy
   
10. The Life Beyond the Veil: A Compilation of Four Classic Books (Life on Other Worlds)
    by Rev. G. Vale Owen (Author)
    https://a.co/d/cj2calY
    
11. Life Between Life
    by Joel Whitten, Joe Fisher
    https://a.co/d/3YVUYNz
    
12. Memoirs of a Suicide
    by Yvonne A. Pereira, Camilo Candido Botelho
    https://a.co/d/0MV8dQu
    
13. The Spirits' Book (New English Edition) (Translation Classical Spiritist Works)
    by Allan Kardec, E. G. Dutra (Translator)
    https://a.co/d/hc7RdLc
    
14. First Sight: ESP and Parapsychology in Everyday Life
    by James C. Carpenter
    https://a.co/d/9NAnxMV
    
15. The Road to Immortality
    by Geraldine Cummins (Author)
    https://a.co/d/hMF9q0u
    
16. My Travels in the Spirit World
    by Caroline D. Larsen, Sir Arthur Conan Doyle (Preface)
    https://a.co/d/4odBg3i
    
17. Nosso Lar: Life in the Spirit World
    by Francisco Candido Xavier, Francisco Candido Xaver
    https://a.co/d/8Ed0uz2
    
18. Life at Death
    by Kenneth Ring
    https://amzn.eu/d/8sMIoEJ
    
19. Heading Toward Omega
    by Kenneth Ring
    https://amzn.eu/d/7eZwc6O
    
20. Lessons from the Light: What We Can Learn from the Near-Death Experience
    by Kenneth Ring, Evelyn Elsaesser Valarino, Caroline Myss (Foreword)
    https://a.co/d/gqYJxgF
    
21. Saved by the Light: The True Story of a Man Who Died Twice and the Profound Revelations He Received
    by Dannion Brinkley (Author), Paul Perry (Author)
    https://a.co/d/4oBw1yK
    
22. I Saw A Light And Came Here: Children's Experiences of Reincarnation
    by Ph.D Erlendur Haraldsson, Ph.D James G. Matlock
    https://a.co/d/8rPIktQ
    
23. At the Hour of Death: A New Look at Evidence for Life After Death
    by Erlendur Haraldsson Ph.D, Karlis Osis Ph.D
    https://a.co/d/ciVMVBf
    
24. The Departed Among the Living: An Investigative Study of Afterlife Encounters
    by Erlendur Haraldsson Ph.D.
    https://a.co/d/cRJhOj8
    
25. Testimony of Light: An Extraordinary Message of Life After Death
    by Helen Greaves
    https://a.co/d/gGHRMTd
    
26. Answers about the Afterlife: A Private Investigator's 15-Year Research Unlocks the Mysteries of Life after Death
    by Bob Olson
    https://a.co/d/his1yp6
    
27. Your Soul's Plan: Discovering the Real Meaning of the Life You Planned Before You Were Born
    by Robert Schwartz
    https://a.co/d/2Jlb3TL
    
28. Your Soul's Gift: The Healing Power of the Life You Planned Before You Were Born
    by Robert Schwartz
    https://a.co/d/8WuS3fO
    
29. The Convoluted Universe: Book One
    by Dolores Cannon
    https://a.co/d/0nGqk6v
    
30. Dying to Be Me: My Journey from Cancer, to Near Death, to True Healing
    by Anita Moorjani, Wayne W. Dyer (Foreword)
    https://a.co/d/2ZUOqwa
    
31. Secrets of the Light: Lessons from Heaven
    by Dannion Brinkley, Kathryn Brinkley
    https://a.co/d/9HJ23uK
    
32. Thirty Years Among the Dead
    by Carl Wickland
    https://a.co/d/ivnBJ5c
    
33. Induced After Death Communication: A Miraculous Therapy for Grief and Loss
    by Allan L. Botkin PsyD, Dr. Raymond Moody MD PhD (Foreword)
    https://a.co/d/hBNT1vN
    
34. The Tibetan Book of Living and Dying: The Spiritual Classic & International Bestseller: 25th Anniversary Edition Paperback
    by Sogyal Rinpoche, Patrick Gaffney (Editor), Andrew Harvey (Editor)
    https://a.co/d/8ibIHIg
    
35. We Live Forever: The Real Truth about Death
    by PMH Atwater
    https://a.co/d/7vsdxgJ
    Related post by thorbiorn (wit e.g. link to her website): https://cassiopaea.org/forum/threads/descriptions-of-the-afterlife.46907/post-1036893
    
36. How to Die: An Ancient Guide to the End of Life (Ancient Wisdom for Modern Readers)
    by Seneca, James S. Romm (Editor, Introduction)
    https://a.co/d/5PqirVZ
    
37. Spirit Releasement Therapy: A Technique Manual
    by Baldwin William J., Edith Fiore (Foreword)
    https://a.co/d/fECIjUt
    
38. A number of books/sources used in Betty’s ‘The Afterlife Unveiled’ compiled by thorbiorn
    https://cassiopaea.org/forum/threads/descriptions-of-the-afterlife.46907/post-876709

 

[Tuatha de Danaan]

thought it could be helpful to make a list of all the interesting books mentioned in this thread. So I decided to make one.

Thank you so much for this super list aragorn. I have read a few but didn't realise there were so many.

Like you I am currently reading "Heading towards Omega" and am finding it very rewarding.

My list grows ever bigger.........

 

[hlat]

5D a realm border between physical and spiritual.

Not correct.

C's say that from 1 to 4 is physical (4 with physical variability) and from 5 to 6 is spirituality or non-physical.

Correct.

In 5D, physical realm is still present as a possibility of choice by a soul. Free will allowing to (re-)incarnate.

Clean up your thinking. 5D is not physical.

 

[Olivierlejardinier]

In 5D, physical realm is still present as a possibility of choice by a soul. Free will allowing to (re-)incarnate.

Clean up your thinking. 5D is not physical.

Hi hlat, for clarity, I was not implying that these possible incarnations cycles occur in 5D wich is NOT physical, I totally agree, but at "lower levels" from 1 to 4D, according to awarness. Thanks for pointing that.

 

[NewEngland Seeker]

Thanks, aragorn, for doing the work of collecting these books. It will come in handy when the subject comes up.

 

[Maya]

This guy was on the other side but came back with 10 principles for life.
And the story is apsolutely amazing and heartworming.


1. Learn how to be truely authentic - to everyone
2. The reason we're here is to embody love, to learn and to create
3. Love everyone
4. Listen to your inner voice
5. Use technology responsibly
6. Release prejudice
7. Exercise the power of creation
8. Avoid negative influences
9. Understanding there is a purpose to evil
10. Know we are all one

I just thought we all need to hear this one more time
have a great day everyone !

 

[hlat]

3. Love everyone
4. Listen to your inner voice

8. Avoid negative influences
9. Understanding there is a purpose to evil
10. Know we are all one

On judgment and perspicacity.

In other words, the light of perspicacity is the ability to see objectively. And we obtain this “perspicacity”, apparently, from knowledge.

[...]

But let me note right here that to have an opinion, to discern, to choose who you will or won’t associate with, who you like or don’t like, and all the various sorts of pseudo-judgmental choices we make from day to day, thinking guiltily that we are being judgmental because we are making a choice, are not, in fact of such a nature; such opinions/choices are necessary perspicacity.

What is it to judge? To determine the needs of another — and then, to act based on that determination. That leads to “sending” some kind of energy — whether it is “love and light”, or “turning the other cheek”, or preaching to “save” someone — all of those amount to determining the needs of another, and doing something without having truly, at a soul level, been asked.

The Wave Chapter 8: Everywhere You Look, There Is the Face of God

I want to bring some important points from the previous chapters into closer focus. It seems, according to the Cassiopaeans, that the coming of the Wave is parallel to the increase of awareness of …

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In like manner, God undoubtedly dwells in the hearts of all — holy and unholy — good and evil — righteous and unrighteous; but a man should not have dealings with the unholy, the wicked, and the impure. He must not be intimate with them. With some of them he may exchange words, but with others he shouldn’t go even that far. He should keep aloof from such people.

 

[Maya]

Yes, I agree, thank you.
The most important is to not define needs of others.
Knowledge gives us objective stand to see the big picture of how everyone's free will would
lead them to fullfiling their lessons and destiny.
So the best option for them and for us is to stay away and do not intevene if we are not asked to.
Respect diversity of orientations. STS and STO are both necessary for possibilities of lessons and cosmic balance as well

I liked how this guy articulated whole experience so nicely, tho