District 9

T.C. said:
I don't know if you've always been able to get it from your evening news and personal life, or if you always looked at every aspect of your reality, but many people don't. How do you reconcile what you wrote above with what you know about mass brainwashing, propaganda, media control?

Thinking about it, what i wrote came from anger. After reading about the plans of the "crashing of humanity's soul" i got really angry at the entropic overlords, the PTB that assist them, AND all of us, humanity, for not taking the responsibility to wake up!

But you are right. My anger was misplaced in this instance. How is anyone going to wake up if they don't know they are asleep and all evil forces conspire to keep them thus? How will they act and do if they don't know the sinister plans in store for their future? How will they ever claim responsibility if they don't know what it is they are responsible for?

But is this movie helping them to wake up? Perhaps: to the alien reality, to the inhumanity of some humans, to apartheid, suppression, oppression. I do wonder what do those who don't know what we here know got out of watching this movie.

Here are some movie reviewer's view of it

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/district_9/
 
I just saw this movie yesterday and I avoided this thread to be sure not to read any spoilers.

I think that this movie works on many levels at once, the special effects were quite incredible, the aliens looked quite real, to film it like a documentary gave it a dynamic momentum.
I like how it portrayed the big corporations using damage control and outright lies to twist a story, how they would use the technology for their own profit and so on...

At the beginning Wikus is actually enjoying the destruction of the aliens which is quite on the spot to describe how a twisted pathological view can reduce anything outside "our" circle as less than humans, ok here they are aliens but it works nonetheless.

Sure it was quite violent in some parts but it fitted in the plotline, although there might be too much fight scene in the end it still worked well.
Great movie.
 
Saw this movie two nights ago, and have to say that I loved it, although there was angst involved (which goes to show how well the movie presented current stupidity)

It captures so many things, on so many levels, and expresses it very well.

It was well done, and the message was pretty clear, attachments notwithstanding.
 
It captures so many things, on so many levels, and expresses it very well.

To me it's very interesting how there is karma involved in it. At first main actor as reporter was doing everything by book, thought that his government was doing good, he had judgments for aliens, etc.. but then is a moment when the truth came out, and he was only a pawn in this STS system and he needed time to realize that even when he began to change. It's very touching in the end, when he became one of them he learned his lesson and in that moment he became objective!
 
Just read an interview with Neil Blomkamp, director of District 9, on the heels of its release onto DVD and Blu-Ray. A few interesting points made by him, in relation to the movie specifically, and to movie-making as a whole. This is just Part 1 of the interview.

'District 9' director Neill Blomkamp says no to Hollywood: 'I don't want to do high-budget films'

The surprise film of 2009 was "District 9," the $30 million sci-fi tale that was directed by newcomer Neill Blomkamp, the Johannesburg native who celebrated his 30th birthday the month after the movie opened wide. "District 9" met with strong success both critically and commercially and it's still being discovered after arriving this month on DVD and Blu-ray. I sat down with Blomkamp at Pete's Cafe in downtown Los Angeles during the filmmaker's recent visit to Southern California and we talked about the movie and his surprising plans for the future, which, he says, won't include any big-budget sci-fi epics. This is Part 1 of the interview:

GB: “District 9” arrived at theaters as a rarity among science-fiction and horror films these days for the simple fact that it wasn’t a sequel, a remake of an already-popular film or an adaption of a comic book, novel or television series. That gave it the air of the unexpected.

NB: That’s true, that does make it a bit left of the norm. I think about this a lot – a hell of a lot actually – and how it plays out within the genre of sci-fi and horror. This concept of “Where does that fiction [in its source material form] come from?” If you look at the most meaningful science fiction, it didn’t come from watching other films. We seem to be in a place now where filmmakers make films based on other films because that’s where the stimuli and influence comes from. But go back and look at something like [Joe Haldeman’s 1974 novel] “The Forever War” – that is very much rooted in his experience in Vietnam, that’s where the stimulation comes from. And that’s my goal, really, is not to draw from other films in terms of the overall inspiration and stimuli. You can in terms of design and tone and stuff, certainly, but not in terms of the idea and the genesis of that idea.

GB: It’s an admirable goal but other filmmakers have found that, if they want to make well-budgeted special-effects movies, they have to bend to studio pressure to make films that are remakes, adaptations, sequels, etc. Studios feel far more comfortable with “known quantity” properties when the budgets go north of $100 million.

NB: That’s exactly right and that’s precisely the reason I don’t want to do high-budget films. I've said no already to doing the Hollywood movie thing with big budgets. And that is the exact reason.

GB: “District 9” had an interesting journey both before and after it reached the screen in wide release in August. Tell me about some of the memorable points along that journey.

NB: I'd say Comic-Con [International in San Diego 2009] was the big turning point. The whole time I was making the film, the only guiding thing I had was how I felt about it. “Is this a movie I would like to go and see? Is this a movie that resonates with me?” Directors make movies they want to watch, really. So I made it and it felt correct to me. But what was undecided was how people would receive it and whether they would like it. I mean, I knew I loved it. Comic-Con was awesome because there was a whole bunch of guys that love those kinds of movies that I like and they responded to it strongly.

GB: What was your first reaction to that affirmation?

NB: “Thank God.” But that was still only the hard-core, genre group, so we still didn’t know how a wider audience would approach the movie. But it was made for a relatively little money. If a movie was a $170-million film it would still have been stressful after Comic-Con but if it’s a low-enough amount of money you walk out feeling that you’re probably going to be OK just counting on the hard-core group.

GB: What happened after Comic-Con?

NB: Well it’s such a blur now. What happened now, really, is I toured around and showed the film in a bunch of cities all over America, Mexico, Canada and eventually Europe and each time we screened it the reaction seemed very positive and I started feeling like we were definitely going to make the cash back. That was really the only goal. As long as whoever put up the money for it got their money back and a little bit of profit that was good enough. It wasn’t like some completely capitalistic machine – it was “Get a return on your investment and let me be creative.” That was the goal. I never want to be ruled by the size of the profit, that’s not how I approach it.

GB: So for you it’s more like playing on “Jeopardy.” If you win, you get to play again. In your case, if you break even or better, you get to make another movie.

NB: Yes, that’s it exactly! That’s precisely how I approached it. If I don’t win, it’s going to be difficult to get another one.

GB: The film drew on your experiences, observations and insights from growing up in South Africa. After watching the way the film was received and reviewed, do you feel your messages were understood in the way you hoped?

NB: Yeah, I think so. For the most part, “District 9” is absolute popcorn. It's absolute fluff compared to how serious those real-life topics are. The topics in the film are on my mind all the time and they’re very interesting to me. The bottom line is “District 9” touches on 1% of those topics in terms of how severe they could be portrayed, and I knew that when I made it. But people got the messages. Xenophobia, racism allegories – they got all of it. I don’t think the film was misunderstood. Not everybody loved it. Nigerians weren’t happy. They were pissed. And I suppose that’s fair enough because I directly named them and they don’t come off well in the film. But that was part of the whole satirical nature of the film. And that conflict, well, that’s a South African thing. [Emphasis mine]

-- Geoff Boucher
 
Hi guys, thanks for the after-movie discourse and analysis :D :P
I especially resonated with the thoughts of Heimdallr.


I just finished the movie. -watched it to entertain myself and take a break from work -heard about it from my friends a bit. wow! I became very invested in these characters. at the end that is for me what made all the violence tolerable.

I thought I would search here the terms "district movie" and whadda you know! a thread with 52 replies :)

I enjoyed the movie... but that isn't really the right word. I enjoyed the movie in a thought-provoking, sad, 'shocking' sense. And I wouldn't say thought-provoking actually because I DONT really want to think about it right now, I want to let it settle in a bit.

Sure there were plot inconsistencies, unnecessary violence, inconsistencies from the actual apartheid etcetera, but still I thought it was an interesting movie, and think it is worth seeing.

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I know this movie is long past by now... (should of watched it earlier) but I want to point out there were quite a few shots of alien-rights protestors, not to mention it was on the "news" in the film at least once. Probably hard to catch with all the editing but it was there.

scout said:
]I'm not sure I agree with you on this. Of course the mercenaries and their employer, MNU, were bad guys. But where were the groups of ordinary citizens demanding "alien rights," or protesting the deplorable conditions of District 9? It seemed to me the rest of the world was only too happy to ignore the alien situation entirely (where have I heard that before?). And by ignoring and allowing the situation, aren't ALL humans painted as bad guys? In the same way that we are all "guilty" of apartheid, wherever it occurs, when we do nothing to oppose it?

heimdallr said:
20 years go by. You don't know if the situation has been ignored the whole time. The history is not explained, it is not an origin story. The portrayal of a displaced culture not integrating into "society" is very realistic. In our country, native Americans still grapple with depression, alcoholism and high suicide rates.
 
Someone must have seen a trailer like this? There is a more interesting movie, very important that speaks directly to the arrival of reptiles in human bodies, they come with human forms and they say "do not come to conquer" but there comes a hero and will damage the plan.

Practically it is the film about control of the reptiles as the Cass said. That movie was going out with the 2012 which we already know but I can not find the trailer. :headbash:
 
My biggest criticism was the portrayal of the lead character. In the beginning he is this completely dumb, corrupted spineless but above all empathy-less guy with no conscience. Basically a psychopath. Than later at the very end he "grows" a conscience. ... I don't think so.
Overall it was a totally unbelievable story. A real bad script.
 
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I sat through this movie once, and enjoyed it somewhat. I noticed the way the public reacted to the aliens at the beginning, the things they said on the news, drew from the stereotypes labeled on certain ethnic groups today. Also, the main character remained totally selfish STS-type right up until the end where he was literally forced into changing his thinking pattern.
 
The feeling i got from watching this movie was that there was some reverse physcology going off.
The aliens living in dirty squats and eating cat food is probably how higher beings view us, and its likely that more and more humans will live in those exact conditions as the economic conditions worsen.

I felt like it was brainwashing humans (yet again) to feel like they were the all powerful beings who could control aliens and treat then like dirt - when in reality the total opposite is happening.
They feed the human ego everytime and it works.
 

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