Do-it-yourself liposomal nutrients
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Re: Re: Ascorbic acid (vitamin C)
Hi,
I have mixed ascorbic acid with emser salz or ems salt and the result was bubbling mixture like the one you buy in a shop in tablntets also similar in taste. It was no longer sour.
Do You know what is the result of this reaction? What is the product of it?
Any hints?
Hi,
I have mixed ascorbic acid with emser salz or ems salt and the result was bubbling mixture like the one you buy in a shop in tablntets also similar in taste. It was no longer sour.
Do You know what is the result of this reaction? What is the product of it?
Any hints?
Re: Re: Ascorbic acid (vitamin C)
Oops. Big mistake on my part. I had several tabs open and pasted in the info from the WRONG one. You cannot make liposomal vitamin C or anything else without the ultrasound part of the process which "nano-izes" it somehow.
I've edited my original post with the instructions to include that most important part and corrected the link.
As it happens, we have an ultrasonic cleaner because Ark uses it for his hobby which is searching for buried stuff with a metal detector. He's found quite a few very old coins and that is about the only way to clean them without damaging them.
Psyche said:
Gandalf said:Psyche said:
I have done that recipe yesterday night and here a pic of the result this morning:
Well it is not homogeneous at all.
Oops. Big mistake on my part. I had several tabs open and pasted in the info from the WRONG one. You cannot make liposomal vitamin C or anything else without the ultrasound part of the process which "nano-izes" it somehow.
I've edited my original post with the instructions to include that most important part and corrected the link.
As it happens, we have an ultrasonic cleaner because Ark uses it for his hobby which is searching for buried stuff with a metal detector. He's found quite a few very old coins and that is about the only way to clean them without damaging them.
Re: Re: Ascorbic acid (vitamin C)
Thank you Laura. It was fun experimenting. ;)
I will buy an ultrasonic cleaner to be able to do it the right way.
Laura said:Gandalf said:Psyche said:
I have done that recipe yesterday night and here a pic of the result this morning:
Well it is not homogeneous at all.
Oops. Big mistake on my part. I had several tabs open and pasted in the info from the WRONG one. You cannot make liposomal vitamin C or anything else without the ultrasound part of the process which "nano-izes" it somehow.
I've edited my original post with the instructions to include that most important part and corrected the link.
As it happens, we have an ultrasonic cleaner because Ark uses it for his hobby which is searching for buried stuff with a metal detector. He's found quite a few very old coins and that is about the only way to clean them without damaging them.
Thank you Laura. It was fun experimenting. ;)
I will buy an ultrasonic cleaner to be able to do it the right way.
Re: Re: Ascorbic acid (vitamin C)
On Wikipedia:
Genetic Modification
As described above, lecithin is highly processed. Therefore, GM protein or DNA from the original GM crop from which it is derived is often undetectable - in other words, it is not substantially different from lecithin derived from non-GM crops.[17] Nonetheless, consumer concerns about genetically modified food have extended to highly purified derivatives from GM food, like lecithin.[18] This concern led to policy and regulatory changes in Europe in 2000, when Regulation (EC) 50/2000 was passed[19] which required labelling of food containing additives derived from GMOs, including lecithin. Because it is nearly impossible to detect the origin of derivatives like lecithin, the European regulations require those who wish to sell lecithin in Europe to use a meticulous system of Identity preservation (IP). [17][20]
^ a b Gertruida M Marx, Dissertation submitted in fulfilment of requirements for the degree Doctor of Philosophy in the Faculty of Health Sciences, University of the Free State, South Africa. December 2010. MONITORING OF GENETICALLY MODIFIED FOOD PRODUCTS IN SOUTH AFRICA
http://etd.uovs.ac.za/ETD-db/theses/available/etd-10042011-094627/unrestricted/MarxGM.pdf
^ Staff, FoodNavigator.com, July 1 2005. Danisco emulsifier to subsitute non-GM soy lecithin as demand outstrips supply
http://www.foodnavigator.com/Science-Nutrition/Danisco-emulsifier-to-subsitute-non-GM-soy-lecithin-as-demand-outstrips-supply
^ Regulation (EC) 50/2000
http://eur-lex.europa.eu/smartapi/cgi/sga_doc?smartapi!celexapi!prod!CELEXnumdoc&lg=EN&numdoc=32000R0050&model=guichett
^ John Davison, Yves Bertheau (2007) EU regulations on the traceability and detection of GMOs: difficulties in interpretation, implementation and compliance CAB Reviews: Perspectives in Agriculture, Veterinary Science, Nutrition and Natural Resources 2(77)
http://www.researchgate.net/publication/228628711_EU_regulations_on_the_traceability_and_detection_of_GMOs_difficulties_in_interpretation_implementation_and_compliance
On Wikipedia:
Genetic Modification
As described above, lecithin is highly processed. Therefore, GM protein or DNA from the original GM crop from which it is derived is often undetectable - in other words, it is not substantially different from lecithin derived from non-GM crops.[17] Nonetheless, consumer concerns about genetically modified food have extended to highly purified derivatives from GM food, like lecithin.[18] This concern led to policy and regulatory changes in Europe in 2000, when Regulation (EC) 50/2000 was passed[19] which required labelling of food containing additives derived from GMOs, including lecithin. Because it is nearly impossible to detect the origin of derivatives like lecithin, the European regulations require those who wish to sell lecithin in Europe to use a meticulous system of Identity preservation (IP). [17][20]
^ a b Gertruida M Marx, Dissertation submitted in fulfilment of requirements for the degree Doctor of Philosophy in the Faculty of Health Sciences, University of the Free State, South Africa. December 2010. MONITORING OF GENETICALLY MODIFIED FOOD PRODUCTS IN SOUTH AFRICA
http://etd.uovs.ac.za/ETD-db/theses/available/etd-10042011-094627/unrestricted/MarxGM.pdf
^ Staff, FoodNavigator.com, July 1 2005. Danisco emulsifier to subsitute non-GM soy lecithin as demand outstrips supply
http://www.foodnavigator.com/Science-Nutrition/Danisco-emulsifier-to-subsitute-non-GM-soy-lecithin-as-demand-outstrips-supply
^ Regulation (EC) 50/2000
http://eur-lex.europa.eu/smartapi/cgi/sga_doc?smartapi!celexapi!prod!CELEXnumdoc&lg=EN&numdoc=32000R0050&model=guichett
^ John Davison, Yves Bertheau (2007) EU regulations on the traceability and detection of GMOs: difficulties in interpretation, implementation and compliance CAB Reviews: Perspectives in Agriculture, Veterinary Science, Nutrition and Natural Resources 2(77)
http://www.researchgate.net/publication/228628711_EU_regulations_on_the_traceability_and_detection_of_GMOs_difficulties_in_interpretation_implementation_and_compliance
Gimpy
The Living Force
Re: Re: Ascorbic acid (vitamin C)
I think I'm going to just go with what I can find on amazon and see how it shakes out.
This is the one I'm looking at: http://www.amazon.com/Absorbot-Liposomal-Vitamin-C/dp/B007DZLZVS/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_nC?ie=UTF8&colid=3CXFVCVNK07SQ&coliid=I2NAROTOPUEGGK
Laura, was this close to what you found?
Got news about ten minutes ago that my Mom's colitis has gotten bad again. She ate a pot pie at Bob Evans and relapsed.
She knows she can't eat wheat and expect to get better, but she's stubborn that way. :( (She's eating cream of wheat every day, and insists it makes her feel better. Not much I can do for her.)
Gives me the shivers....that is a lot of pain. Part of me wants to send her a bottle of this, but as inflamed as she is, it wouldn't do anything.
I think I'm going to just go with what I can find on amazon and see how it shakes out.
This is the one I'm looking at: http://www.amazon.com/Absorbot-Liposomal-Vitamin-C/dp/B007DZLZVS/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_nC?ie=UTF8&colid=3CXFVCVNK07SQ&coliid=I2NAROTOPUEGGK
Laura, was this close to what you found?
Got news about ten minutes ago that my Mom's colitis has gotten bad again. She ate a pot pie at Bob Evans and relapsed.
She knows she can't eat wheat and expect to get better, but she's stubborn that way. :( (She's eating cream of wheat every day, and insists it makes her feel better. Not much I can do for her.)
Gives me the shivers....that is a lot of pain. Part of me wants to send her a bottle of this, but as inflamed as she is, it wouldn't do anything.
Re: Re: Ascorbic acid (vitamin C)
Yes. This was one I was looking at also. http://www.amazon.com/Lypo-Spheric-Vitamin-Box-30-packets/dp/B000CD9XGC/ref=pd_bxgy_hpc_text_z Got one of each to try.
I think that people who keep doing things like that to themselves just don't have very good memories, OR, they love their suffering, in which case, I abstain from supporting them.
Gimpy said:
Yes. This was one I was looking at also. http://www.amazon.com/Lypo-Spheric-Vitamin-Box-30-packets/dp/B000CD9XGC/ref=pd_bxgy_hpc_text_z Got one of each to try.
Gimpy said:
I think that people who keep doing things like that to themselves just don't have very good memories, OR, they love their suffering, in which case, I abstain from supporting them.
Horseofadifferentcolor
Jedi Council Member
Re: Re: Ascorbic acid (vitamin C)
I just wanted to ask if I am wrong about what I have read from this thread. It is/was my understanding that the uric acids from meat do the same functions as vit. C. We still do supplement with vit C. only becuase I have not fully understood if KD/uric acid is all that is needed. We take vit. pills but I ordered some ascorbic acid 1lb from amazon to try and experiment with high vit C mayo. Might work/might not.
It sounds to me that using any kind of fat from animal or egg yolk would work also for making the liposomal form, instead of using soy, sunflower, or other veggies. The lecithins are not in pure form only but still would be absorbed through the procces?
I just wanted to ask if I am wrong about what I have read from this thread. It is/was my understanding that the uric acids from meat do the same functions as vit. C. We still do supplement with vit C. only becuase I have not fully understood if KD/uric acid is all that is needed. We take vit. pills but I ordered some ascorbic acid 1lb from amazon to try and experiment with high vit C mayo. Might work/might not.
It sounds to me that using any kind of fat from animal or egg yolk would work also for making the liposomal form, instead of using soy, sunflower, or other veggies. The lecithins are not in pure form only but still would be absorbed through the procces?
Gimpy
The Living Force
Re: Re: Ascorbic acid (vitamin C)
Our power poofed...gotta love country living! (and I do)
I'll go ahead and get these then. Hubby noted that the diet is working great, but it may not be enough on its own, when I started having recurring liver trouble.
Re: My Mom....yeah. :(
Our power poofed...gotta love country living! (and I do)
I'll go ahead and get these then. Hubby noted that the diet is working great, but it may not be enough on its own, when I started having recurring liver trouble.
Re: My Mom....yeah. :(
Laura said:
Re: Re: Ascorbic acid (vitamin C)
The peeps that need to supplement are those with "conditions". If you aren't suffering, don't worry about it, but save the info for in case you are sick or someone in your family is.
Horseofadifferentcolor said:
The peeps that need to supplement are those with "conditions". If you aren't suffering, don't worry about it, but save the info for in case you are sick or someone in your family is.
Re: Re: Ascorbic acid (vitamin C)
I agree. Reading through the list of things that the high dose Vitamin C can correct is promising. But the idea of doing it intravenous was daunting. Then, you can't get enough in your system to do the trick orally without hitting the threshold and your bowels going all crazy. So this seems pretty useful to know about and to try for some folks that have conditions.
I'm happy that Hubby is noting improvement. It takes time and it does need to be adhered to pretty strictly for quite awhile, maybe forever. But I can sure tell you that I am one happy person to be out of the endless, dragging, draining, debilitating pain that crippled me for years. I'm almost 61 now, and when I go down the stairs, I feel like I'm in my 30s these days. It's amazing. Not having my legs feel like they are filled with lead is a revelation. It's worth it.
Gimpy said:
I agree. Reading through the list of things that the high dose Vitamin C can correct is promising. But the idea of doing it intravenous was daunting. Then, you can't get enough in your system to do the trick orally without hitting the threshold and your bowels going all crazy. So this seems pretty useful to know about and to try for some folks that have conditions.
I'm happy that Hubby is noting improvement. It takes time and it does need to be adhered to pretty strictly for quite awhile, maybe forever. But I can sure tell you that I am one happy person to be out of the endless, dragging, draining, debilitating pain that crippled me for years. I'm almost 61 now, and when I go down the stairs, I feel like I'm in my 30s these days. It's amazing. Not having my legs feel like they are filled with lead is a revelation. It's worth it.
Horseofadifferentcolor
Jedi Council Member
Re: Re: Ascorbic acid (vitamin C)
Ok, thanks. I thought this was the case but wanted to make sure. When I saw I could get a whole pound of this stuff for 20 bucks, I thought it be a good idea to have it around.
Every health issue I had has gone away or greatly improved with KD. Thanks soooo much for everyone who puts time into all this info. Priceless!
Everytime someone new hears about this diet from me, the two first things they ask about is scurvy and gout, so I guess thats why I have still been taking the vit. c tabs. aargh darn programing in me. It never seems to fail how much I read and think I know, how someone can come along and put doubt into my mind.
Laura said:
Ok, thanks. I thought this was the case but wanted to make sure. When I saw I could get a whole pound of this stuff for 20 bucks, I thought it be a good idea to have it around.
Every health issue I had has gone away or greatly improved with KD. Thanks soooo much for everyone who puts time into all this info. Priceless!
Everytime someone new hears about this diet from me, the two first things they ask about is scurvy and gout, so I guess thats why I have still been taking the vit. c tabs. aargh darn programing in me. It never seems to fail how much I read and think I know, how someone can come along and put doubt into my mind.