Do some French people see what's going on? Yellow Vest Protests

loreta

The Living Force
FOTCM Member
Historically, the Marseillaise is a war anthem designed to motivate the French troops going to war, after the leaders of the Revolution declared war on Austria in 1792. It was adopted as France's national anthem in 1795.
Here justly a scene of The Marseillaise by Renoir about the soldiers before going to fight and die. But they sing before!


 
Last edited by a moderator:

NormaRegula

SuperModerator
Moderator
FOTCM Member
Looks like some French police are sympathetic to the protestors. While citizens sang the French national anthem, a few police officers took off their helmets in support.
I fear Macron and the PTB will be cruel in their response. Can't have the sheep awake and pushing back.

Aside from a few alt-news sites, the MSM here in the USA is pretty quiet as to what is happening. They say the French are upset due to high fuel prices. The carbon tax thing. Perhaps it is more. Yeah, I may be too optimistic here. But Macron's arrogant support of Globalism is right in their faces.

I pray the French people stay strong and see through the agents provocateurs.
 

luc

Ambassador
Ambassador
FOTCM Member
I pray the French people stay strong and see through the agents provocateurs.
Worth checking out the twitter thread you linked - the Q stuff is all over the place, and "American patriots" chiming in in support of the French revolution... Don't know, all of this gives me a bad vibe. Anything seems possible I guess. And perhaps Q is right on this one - the inevitable will happen, i.e. "history books". But this also means it won't be pretty. I guess we need all the knowledge and self-awareness we can muster to keep calm and not "fall left and right".
 

NormaRegula

SuperModerator
Moderator
FOTCM Member
Worth checking out the twitter thread you linked - the Q stuff is all over the place, and "American patriots" chiming in in support of the French revolution... Don't know, all of this gives me a bad vibe. Anything seems possible I guess. And perhaps Q is right on this one - the inevitable will happen, i.e. "history books". But this also means it won't be pretty. I guess we need all the knowledge and self-awareness we can muster to keep calm and not "fall left and right".
Yes, the Q stuff is all over the place at least from my perspective. Along with a bad vibe because it still seems too good to be true. I have conservative neighbors who keep me abreast of the movement. I practice external consideration, yet I've been honest with them about my take on Q. Surprisingly they weren't insulted or defensive. The husband said to wait and see. This twitter was sent to me by another Q follower....a former co-worker.
 

c.a.

The Living Force
FOTCM Member
President Emmanuel Macron said scenes of “chaos” aren’t representative of the “legitimate anger” roiling France, but refused to answer questions over his response to protests that have left swaths of Paris with burned cars, exploded shop windows and graffiti tags on the Arc de Triomphe.

“What has happened in Paris today is not the pacific expression of a legitimate anger,” Macron said in opening remarks at a press conference at the Group of 20 summit in Buenos Aires. “The culprits of those violent acts don’t want change, don’t seek improvement, they want chaos.” He refused to answer questions on the matter.

Protests by the “Yellow Vests” or “gilets jaunes” movement led to widespread clashes throughout the capital city again on Saturday. Police fired tear gas and using water cannons against demonstrators who set up barricades and tried to approach government buildings.

Prime Minister Edouard Philippe has canceled his trip to a climate conference Poland on Monday. Macron is convening a meeting with Philippe, his interior minister and security forces Sunday morning when he returns from Argentina.

The prime minister said earlier on Saturday that the level of violence was “rarely seen before.” Over 270 people have been arrested and nearly 100 injured, according to the police.

Taxes and More

France’s Interior Ministry said mid-afternoon that 75,000 people were taking part in a third weekend of nationwide protests. The demonstrations began against higher gasoline taxes and have now spread to other demands including cuts to politicians’ salaries.

From Argentina, where local media have widely reported troubles in France, Macron has admitted that the protests at home were a “test (to) the strength of a country, a people, and its government in its ability to keep on its path, without ceding to demagoguery.” Still, the French leader said he wouldn’t respond to questions about the violence during his press conference.

There were reports of violent clashes in Toulouse, Nantes, and Nice, but the worst of the violence was in Paris, where there have been more than 270 arrests Saturday and at least 100 people injured, the Interior Ministry said.
Police and people in yellow vests clashed around the landmark Arc de Triomphe, and on streets leading onto the Champs-Elysees avenue. Police fired tear gas and some protesters set fire to cars and trees, threw cobble stones, and looted some stores and restaurants.

Monument Tagged

A group sprayed graffiti on the iconic monument at the western end of the Champs-Élysées, which houses the tomb of the unknown soldier, where 60 leaders on Nov. 11 commemorated the end of World War I. Later in the day, clashes spread throughout the west of the capital, with burning trash and tear gas near the Opera, in the Tuileries Garden, and on the Rue de Rivoli, favorite areas for tourists and visitors to the city. Some department stores were evacuated.

QuickTake: Why People in Yellow Vests Are Blocking French Roads

Paris Mayor Anne Hidalgo said in a post on Twitter she was “indignant” about the violence, and said “our country is faced with a profound crisis which can only be resolved by dialogue.”

Commentators on television said it’s the most extensive violence in Paris since the May 1968 student uprisings.
Security perimeters were placed around Macron’s Elysee presidential palace and the Matignon residence of the prime minister. Many protesters chanted that Macron should resign.

While police battled protesters at the Arc de Triomphe, the rest of the avenue was largely empty with boarded up shops on what should have been a busy Christmas shopping weekend. Even luxury shops on nearby rue Faubourg St. Honore, where no protests were expected, were closed Saturday and their windows boarded up.

“We had expected trouble and our security services were ready,” government spokesman Benjamin Griveaux said Saturday morning on LCI television. “The troublemakers are a small minority. The government is open to dialogue with those ready for dialogue.”

At a planned meeting on Friday between the movement and the prime minister, only two representatives showed up and one quickly left, saying his request that the meeting be televised live had been rejected.

Many demonstrators in Paris said they felt the police provoked much of the fighting. “I came peacefully, but even I’m ready to fight given how I’ve seen the riot police behave,” said Claude Metayer, a 67-year-old retired army commander, who came to Paris from Pau in the country’s southwest with his 62-year-old wife Eve, a retired teacher. They said they’d seen police allow protesters into confined areas and then not let them out after firing tear gas, and threatening to fire rubber bullets on peaceful protesters.

The grassroots movement has led to sporadic blockades of roads, fuel depots and warehouses. It’s organized through social media and has no leadership, but has the support of three-quarters of the French public, polls show.

The movement’s demands have also expanded to higher pensions, an increase in the minimum wage, a repeal of certain other taxes, the restoration of a wealth tax, a law fixing a maximum salary, and replacing Macron and the National Assembly with a “People’s Assembly.” While political parties have tried to show their support for the movement, the Yellow Vests have rejected any political link.

Jennifer Nogent, a 33-year-old nurse from central France came to Paris for the protests with a fireman and a train driver, all of whom said they’d never been involved in politics before. “The gas taxes were just the final straw,” she said. “The prices of everything are going up: electricity, gas, my insurance.”
 

caballero reyes

The Living Force
THE WORLD AS A SHIP WITHOUT DEFINED COURSE.

IT IS DEPRESSING THAT A COUNTRY LIKE FRANCE IS GOING THROUGH THIS.
SEEMS THAT IT NEEDS A SACRIFICE OF 125,000 DEAD MORE THE SUMS OF THE DISAPPEARED, AS MEXICO HAS SUFFERED TO ACHIEVE A LITTLE STABILITY.

THE TRUTH IS THAT NEVER HAS HAD "FIRST WORLD COUNTRIES". ALL APPEAR FROM THE FOURTH WORLD.
 

Hi_Henry

Jedi Master
I found this comment on the Paris situation on mark,

At the same time as the fuel tax protests are being used as an excuse for a little general rioting in the streets of Paris, the EU continues their full court press on Luxembourg to RAISE their fuel taxes, because hundreds of thousands of foreign nationals from all sides — France, Belgium & Germany — engage in weekly “tanken tourismus”. That is, driving a few extra kilometers to fill up at anywhere from 20-60 cents per liter less. Luxembourg has recently agreed to do so — just “not yet”. (chuckle) As one of the many who wander over the border on a regular basis, you just gotta love the attitude. To my mind, Luxembourg is simply out-competing the rest. An easy way to spot the simple truth that the PTB here on the Continent aren’t actually capitalists is their complete inability to understand such a basic economic principle…
The Luxemberg example shows that it is all about controlling "Sheep" so that only the right "Shepard" makes money on them.
 

Starshine

Jedi Master
An impressive movement which is growing. It feels like the point of no return has been passed.
Asselineau made an announcement, he wants to use the law to destitute Macron:
File to be distributed en masse - DESTITUTION OF MACRON, INSTRUCTIONS (make known to MPs and Senators all the arguments of our irrefutable file!)
"As in most democracies, our Constitution has provided for the need and possibility of dismissing the Chief Executive. The article that addresses this issue is article 68. It states that "the President of the Republic may be dismissed only in the event of failure to fulfill his duties, which is manifestly incompatible with the exercise of his mandate".

"Faced with this increasingly elusive situation, and faced with the risk of multiple abuses, the Union Populaire républicaine (UPR) proposes that the French react in a non-violent manner and always strictly in accordance with the law, by asking the deputies and senators who represent them to launch the first stage of Article 68 of the Constitution, by tabling this motion for a resolution to create a High Court.
This deposit will be valid if 58 deputies or 35 senators sign this resolution.

The Republican People's Union (UPR) is, therefore, publishing a list of ten "reasons likely to constitute a breach of his duties that are manifestly incompatible with the exercise of his mandate" committed by Mr. Macron - to use the terms of article 68 of the Constitution and the organic law adopted for its implementation."

Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator

In this video, he also says that Le Pen and Mélenchon actually protect Macron by proposing such measures as the destitution of the national assembly for Lepen ( the majority is from his party, it won't happen) or a motion of censure for Mélenchon (since he was elected it happened twice, twice rejected since the majority is from his party).
 

loreta

The Living Force
FOTCM Member
It is so similar, in my mind, to what happened some centuries ago, around the little ice age that was coming, and the Black Death also, at the end of the 13 Century. All the fury of the poor, all the bandits on the roads, groups of people very angry and violent, robbing, destroying. It is not the same situation although we are very near a little Ice Age and also maybe a new pestilence if a comet will pass on our skies. This fury is like a spiral of fury. How can you stop this ? And by the way, the French Revolution was not beautiful at all, after it came the Years of Terror. So the price to pay will be hard for everybody.
 

c.a.

The Living Force
FOTCM Member
When the infrastructure rebels!



Translated from French by Microsoft
Yellow waistcoats: "Between 3 and 4" million euros of damage in Paris Saturday Gilets jaunes : «  entre 3 et 4 » millions d'euros de dégâts à Paris samedi


France’s ‘Yellow Vest’ Protests Escalate to Teargas & Rubber Bullets
Published on Dec 3, 2018 / 15:22
Charlotte Dubenskij reports from Paris after hundreds of people were arrested and injured during Saturdays’ Yellow Vest protests. The French government is now mulling all options as a response, including a state of emergency. Later, Natasha Sweatte leads a panel with former UK Member of Parliament, George Galloway, and Conservative Political Commentator, Steve Malzberg, to discuss the demonstrations. Finally, Natasha is joined by RT Correspondent, Peter Oliver, who reported from the weekend’s protests in Paris where he was teargassed and hit with rubber bullets.
 
Last edited:

Adaryn

SuperModerator
Moderator
FOTCM Member
Riot police clash with ambulance drivers in France in latest anti-government protest

Paramedics today clashed with riot police in France as dozens of ambulances joined ongoing anti-government protests.

The vehicles blocked a bridge leading to the National Assembly in Paris on Monday.

Lines of riot police officers stood in the rain to prevent the ambulance workers from getting too close to the building.

Ambulance drivers were also pictured facing off with officers during a demonstration at the Place de la Concorde.

It was the latest protest action that President Emmanuel Macron's government has faced in recent weeks.

The "yellow vest" movement is bringing together people from across the political spectrum complaining about France's economic inequalities and waning spending power.

Mr Macron, just back from the Group of 20 summit in Argentina, held an emergency meeting Sunday on security and the government has not ruled out the possibility of imposing a state of emergency.

On Saturday, more than 130 people were injured and 412 arrested Saturday in the French capital amid one of the nation's worst unrest in recent times.


Ambulances blocked a bridge near to the National Assembly (AP)

Police responded with tear gas and water cannons, closing down dozens of streets and subway stations to contain the riot.

The rioting was the third straight weekend of clashes in Paris led by protesters wearing distinctive yellow traffic vests.


It is the latest anti-government action in France (AP)

The protests began last month with motorists upset over a fuel tax hike and have grown to encompass a range of complaints that Mr Macron's government doesn't care about the problems of ordinary people. Other protests in France remained peaceful.

By Sunday, some of the most popular tourist streets in Paris were littered with torched cars and broken glass from looted shops and the Arc de Triomphe monument was tagged with graffiti.

During the paramedic protest on Monday, some demonstrators set fire to a small pile of debris and blocked traffic. One activist held up a sign reading "The State killed me" and others chanted "Macron resign!"

According to French media reports, students also joined the protest movement by blocking dozens of high schools across France, while clashes between protesters and police officers reignited on Monday on the Indian Ocean island of Reunion, where demonstrations have been particularly violent in recent weeks.

Prime Minister Edouard Philippe and Mr Macron have been lambasted for their handling of the crisis.

Philippe will try to defuse tensions this week before more possible protests this weekend, speaking with yellow vest representatives on Tuesday.

Members of the National Assembly will also hold talks on France's social crisis later this week. Meanwhile, trade union CGT has called for a day of protest across France on December 14.
 

Adaryn

SuperModerator
Moderator
FOTCM Member
'Yellow vest' protests knock wind out of French economy


© Charles Pliatau, Reuters | People take pictures of a damaged shop on avenue Kleber after clashes with protesters wearing yellow vests, a symbol of a French drivers' protest against higher diesel taxes, in Paris, France, December 1, 2018.

Text by NEWS WIRES
Latest update : 2018-12-03

Three weeks of "yellow vest" protests have hit the French economy hard with trade in retailers, hotel chains, high-street stores and restaurants falling significantly, Finance Minister Bruno Le Maire said on Monday.

Speaking after a meeting with industry groups and business federations affected by the protest movement, Le Maire said sector revenues had been hit by between 15 and 50 percent.

While not providing a precise breakdown, Le Maire said small retailers had seen a fall in revenue of between 20 and 40 percent, the hotel industry was seeing reservations down 15 to 25 percent.

Restaurants, depending on their location, had seen takings collapse by between 20 and 50 percent.

"The impact is severe and ongoing," Le Maire said, emphasising that it was nationwide, although Paris, after riots and looting in some of its most upmarket districts on Saturday afternoon and evening, was particularly affected.

The movement began on Nov. 17 as a social-media-planned protest against fuel-tax rises but has since morphed into an anti-Macron uprising.

The ministry was not able to say what sort of impact the unrest would have on gross domestic product, but having hoped for a pick-up in the fourth quarter on the back of rising consumer spending, that now appears less likely.


Holiday season shopping has started poorly, according to industry group Federation du Commerce et de la Distribution, which expects a slump in hirings and a transfer of shopping to e-commerce, mainly on Amazon, a spokeswoman said.

Amazon was not immediately available to comment but CDiscount, the e-commerce arm of retailer Casino, attributed the record number of visits to its websites partly to "demonstrations or blockades organized outside some shops".

During Saturday's disturbances in Paris, tourists were left shocked, with some saying they would cut short their visit.

Many sectors affected

When they started, the "yellow vests" protests were focused on denouncing a squeeze on household spending brought about by President Emmanuel Macron's taxes on diesel, which he says are necessary to combat climate change and protect the environment.
But for the past two weekends there have also been violent demonstrations and clashes with security forces in Paris and other major cities, with protesters calling for Macron to resign. Some call it a revolution against a president who they see as out of touch with the concerns of ordinary people.

Saturday's protests in Paris turned particularly violent, with protesters from the far-right and far-left mixing with the "yellow vests" and intent on causing as much damage as possible.

The Arc de Triomphe was defaced and avenues off Paris's Champs Elysees were the scene of mass-vandalism.

Shops on the Champs Elysees and in the heart of Paris, including the Apple store and Dior and Chanel boutiques, had their windows smashed. Some others were looted. Prestigious Parisian department stores Printemps and Galeries Lafayette protectively shut their doors on Saturday afternoon.

Luxury groups such as SMCP, Hermes and LVMH, which are heavily dependent on foreign tourists visiting Paris during the Christmas season are likely to suffer, said Berenberg analysts in a report.

The effect may extend through the holiday season.

Hotel industry group UMIH said some Paris hotels were seeing cancelation rates of 20 percent to 50 percent and reservations down 10 percent to 15 percent.

"We have received calls from many worried customers and we have reassured them," Carlos Conesa, head concierge at the five-star Napoleon Hotel. "During the protests, the hotel didn't suffer any damage and most of our guests decidd to stay inside and had dinner in our restaurants."

While the violence in downtown Paris stunned the country, waves of protests have also targeted road infrastructure, with a another potential impact on the economy.

Vinci Autoroute, France's largest toll-road operator, has seen dozens of road blockades and forced openings of barriers since the protests erupted two weeks ago. Protesters have also damaged infrastructure, a spokesman said.

French oil major Total has said 75 of its 2,200 petrol stations have run dry as "yellow vests" blockade fuel depots.

Car manufacturer Peugeot SA said production at a plant in eastern France was disrupted for half a day. It takes almost two weeks to recover disrupted output, it said.

Le Maire said both Peugeot and rival Renault had lost vehicle orders.
 

Ursus Minor

Jedi Master
Is Macron really so detached from reality that he doesn't understand he's taking his country to the brink?
Or is he tasked by the Deep State to create a situation for imposing martial law?

Even the fiery Nicholas Sarkozy used to back down when the French got really angry.

The French really have a rebellious gene. God bless them.

The chance of this rebellion spilling over into other countries (apart from Belgium) is practically close to zero.

Mind you the Germans are keeping yellow vests in their cars too, but the majority of them don't have it in them to voice any dissent openly, let alone violently.

I'm fully expecting Mr. Macron to exclaim "Let them eat cake!" within the next few months... :shock:
 

Adaryn

SuperModerator
Moderator
FOTCM Member
(DeepL translation)

The collective 'Gilets jaunes libres' (the Free Yellow vests) won't see the First minister on Tuesday.

Monday, 3rd Dec.

The representatives of the "free yellow vests" collective, who called Sunday for a "way out of the crisis", will not go to Matignon (Prime minister's office) on Tuesday.

The executive announced this weekend a round of consultations Monday and Tuesday in Matignon with representatives of political parties and "yellow vests" to try to resolve the crisis arising from the latter's challenge to the increase in fuel taxes.

"No member of the free yellow vests will go to Matignon tomorrow," said Benjamin Cauchy, an Occitan member of the ten yellow vests of this moderate collective that had published a column in the Journal du dimanche (JDD).

"We get calls in the middle of the night"

One of the column's signatories, Jacline Mouraud, also indicated that she would not go to Matignon because she received "too many threats" after the publication of this column. "We're being targeted by some kind of anarchist kids who are being manipulated. We receive calls in the middle of the night, threats like "We have your address, you won't have much longer," said the 51-year-old Breton woman, who made a viral video that helped launch the protest.

Asked on France info, Chantal Perrotin, a "yellow vest" in Auvergne-Rhône-Alpes and co-signatory of the column, explains in turn: "Matignon has cancelled for the moment, I have received implicit threats on Facebook, not death threats, but still". "All the signatories of the JDD platform have received threats and intimidation that do not guarantee their safety. Some yellow vests have indicated that they will prevent them from going to Matignon," confirmed Benjamin Cauchy. The collective will not discuss with the government for another reason, related to the executive's position, he added.

"The evil is deep and you yourself can't see it!"

"Since yesterday, many LREM (Macron's party) MPs have been going around the media saying that the government will not change course. And we don't want to be puppets of political communication," he explained. "We are in a political impasse, wondering if the government has not chosen the tactic of degradation. However, if it is not open to dialogue and negotiation, things will continue to crystallize. Especially since the yellow vests' "historical canal" no longer communicates except by appeal to insurrection and anger".

Among the most famous historical members of the "yellow vests", Eric Drouet called for an intensification of the protest movement during new demonstrations next Saturday, rather than "negotiating with a government that is losing on all sides".

"High school students, ambulance drivers, unemployed people, minimum wage earners, "working class", middle class and so on, the evil (or unease) is deep and you yourself don't see it! Refinery at a standstill!!! Port blocked!!! Free road toll!!! Where is the state still in control? Nowhere!!!!! Saturday will finally be the moment when the French people will be stronger than the government! On social networks, the new call to demonstrate for Saturday is entitled "Act IV, Dissolution of the National Assembly".

The political crisis is evident after this third Saturday of mobilization, which has led to numerous violent outbursts and degradations, particularly in the heart of Paris, and left 263 people injured, including 81 members of the security forces.
 
Last edited:

Ursus Minor

Jedi Master
Is "Gilets Jaunes" A Color Revolution Organized By British Intelligence?

The Yellow Vest protests in France can be considered to be part of a "yellow" color revolution that has been professionally organized with the goal of exploiting European dissatisfaction with their current leadership.
Although the protests have been painted as being the work of right-wing nationalist populists, reports from French media reveal a number of extremist left and anarchist organizations have embedded with the protests, as evidenced by the presence of anti-capitalist and anti-police slogans used in the protests and left behind as graffiti.

Given that the British have infiltrated such groups in the past, the chances for aggravation of violence are great, particularly since far-right groups have also become involved.
The likelihood of conflict between such factions is serious, writes William Craddick of disobedientmedia.com.

Europe’s powder keg is growing dangerously close to an explosion as unrest spreads from France to surrounding mainland nations. These protests are unified by many different factors such as dissatisfaction with mass migration and anger at economic failures blamed on President Emmanuel Macron. But most significantly, they are united by the use of yellow by those who have taken to the streets.

The “Yellow Vest” protests are in fact, a color revolution.

While color revolutions can morph into popular resistance movements, they are at their core professionally organized and instigated, sometimes at the state level. In the case of Europe’s Yellow Revolution, the big winner, and also one of the only states to avoid unrest, is Great Britain.

 
Top Bottom