Donald Trump wins 2016 US presidential election

[rylek]

If you guys want to follow how the electors are voting (have voted) you can follow the developments here:

_http://www.270towin.com/live-2016-presidential-election-vote-of-electors/

Thanks Aragorn, I been looking for this.

Thanks for the link, Aragorn. As of 8.45pm UTC Trump has almost reached the needed 270 votes, projected to receive 306 in total. There is still a 0 in the 'other' count.

 

[msante]

Just an update

268
Trump (R)

160
Clinton (D)

4
Other (O)

106
Pending

There's no way Hillary wins anymore (I think)

 

[Windmill knight]

It's done now! Trump has 304, Clinton 163, Other 4, Pending 65. No coup d'etat from the Clintons - yet.

 

[Pierre]

Remember the widely mediatized story of the 30 or so liberal electors who announced a wave of 'faithless electors' and the subsequent loss of Trump?

It appears that indeed there's been some faithless electors, but it did not happen on the expected side (again the MSM are caught blatantly lying):

More Electors Mutiny Against Hillary: Three Cast Votes For Colin Powell, One For "Faith Spotted Eagle"

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-19/more-electors-mutiny-against-hillary-three-cast-votes-colin-powell-one-faith-spotted

Adding insult to injury, not to mention humiliating loss, following the first "faithless elector" to emerge earlier in the day in Minnesota, and who voted for Bernie Sanders instead of Hillary Clinton, a drama broke out in Washington State, where Stop Trump protesters gathered at the Statehouse in Olympia before the noon vote.

That wasn't the drama: what was, however, is that according to AP, after the vote, "Democrat Hillary Clinton received eight votes, former Secretary of State Colin Powell got three, and Faith Spotted Eagle, an elder in the Yankton Dakota tribe, got one. Clinton won the state's popular vote."

More details from AP:

Four members of the Electoral College in Washington state cast their votes for a candidate other than Democrat Hillary Clinton, who won the state's popular vote.


It's the first time in four decades the state's electors have broken from the popular vote for president. Washington's 12 electors met Monday afternoon in the state Capitol to complete the constitutional formality. Clinton got eight votes while other candidates got the remaining four.

Elector Bret Chiafalo, who earlier in the day said he planned to vote for Republican Ohio Gov. John Kasich, said that he ultimately changed his vote to former Secretary of State Colin Powell after conversations with other Washington electors. The exact breakdown of the other four votes wasn't immediately known, although at least one vote was cast for "Faith Spotted Eagle."

In last month's election, Republican Donald Trump won 306 electoral votes to Clinton's 232, though Clinton's tally will now be lower.

The four were only the most recent "faithless electors" to emerge by voting against Hillary: earlier in the day, the same thing happened with one elector in Maine, one in Minnesota and one in Colorado. Those votes were changed and registered for Clinton.

It seems that Clinton's decades of crookery, lies and perfidy made her many enemies including several electors.

 

[lilies]

Trump wins Electoral College vote amid protests (VIDEO)
https://www.rt.com/usa/370867-trump-electoral-college-protests/
Phew, that was close! Good to read news like this. Despite the CIA madness around the world, sanity is still prevailing. I'm fully looking ahead to read the transcript from the peace talks in Astana, circumventing the murderous West.

 

[Ellipse]

Remember the widely mediatized story of the 30 or so liberal electors who announced a wave of 'faithless electors' and the subsequent loss of Trump?

It appears that indeed there's been some faithless electors, but it did not happen on the expected side (again the MSM are caught blatantly lying):

More Electors Mutiny Against Hillary: Three Cast Votes For Colin Powell, One For "Faith Spotted Eagle"

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-19/more-electors-mutiny-against-hillary-three-cast-votes-colin-powell-one-faith-spotted

Adding insult to injury, not to mention humiliating loss, following the first "faithless elector" to emerge earlier in the day in Minnesota, and who voted for Bernie Sanders instead of Hillary Clinton, a drama broke out in Washington State, where Stop Trump protesters gathered at the Statehouse in Olympia before the noon vote.

That wasn't the drama: what was, however, is that according to AP, after the vote, "Democrat Hillary Clinton received eight votes, former Secretary of State Colin Powell got three, and Faith Spotted Eagle, an elder in the Yankton Dakota tribe, got one. Clinton won the state's popular vote."

More details from AP:

Four members of the Electoral College in Washington state cast their votes for a candidate other than Democrat Hillary Clinton, who won the state's popular vote.


It's the first time in four decades the state's electors have broken from the popular vote for president. Washington's 12 electors met Monday afternoon in the state Capitol to complete the constitutional formality. Clinton got eight votes while other candidates got the remaining four.

Elector Bret Chiafalo, who earlier in the day said he planned to vote for Republican Ohio Gov. John Kasich, said that he ultimately changed his vote to former Secretary of State Colin Powell after conversations with other Washington electors. The exact breakdown of the other four votes wasn't immediately known, although at least one vote was cast for "Faith Spotted Eagle."

In last month's election, Republican Donald Trump won 306 electoral votes to Clinton's 232, though Clinton's tally will now be lower.

The four were only the most recent "faithless electors" to emerge by voting against Hillary: earlier in the day, the same thing happened with one elector in Maine, one in Minnesota and one in Colorado. Those votes were changed and registered for Clinton.

It seems that Clinton's decades of crookery, lies and perfidy made her many enemies including several electors.

It mean that, in the US system, when the greats electors vote, they have always the choice between all the candidates, not only between the last two?

 

[Pierre]

It mean that, in the US system, when the greats electors vote, they have always the choice between all the candidates, not only between the last two?

In some US states, electors can vote for any candidate and they also can abstain. In other states, they are bound to vote for the candidate who won the popular vote. At least that's what I understand from this source.

 

[Laura]

The bottom line appears to be that the hatred and revulsion of the MAJORITY of Americans really is directed at Hillary Clinton DESPITE the frantic efforts of the MSM to try to convince everyone otherwise! The efforts to present the appearance of widespread support of Clinton is a complete farce, a media circus where a few discontents and their Soros-paid lackeys have been making a whole lot of noise when they are the vanishingly small minority!!! Even the electors weren't taken in by the sideshow.

So, just what kind of person is this sideshow aimed at? What kind of person has been taken in by it?

 

[Laura]

I just read something on Twitter that I actually hadn't thought about, but once I read it, I realized it was true:

Funny how all #Recount news went dark after Dem voter fraud was uncovered in Detroit. Probably coincidental.

And the voter fraud uncovered was in favor of Hillary.

So, Jill Stein really turned out to be a fifth column Trojan Horse.

 

[Cyre2067]

So, just what kind of person is this sideshow aimed at? What kind of person has been taken in by it?

On my Facebook feed it seems mostly the wealthier, more educated liberal folks. They were the only ones posting Washington Post propaganda. They're also the target with transgender mania, along with the young people.

The comments on this Eva Bartlett/Dilly Hussain debate were great and show that people aren't buying the Syrian propaganda either. It's another illusion of consent being manufactured by the damn news networks.

link: _https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JFEmCKHVME

 

[Mike]

So, just what kind of person is this sideshow aimed at? What kind of person has been taken in by it?

On my Facebook feed it seems mostly the wealthier, more educated liberal folks. They were the only ones posting Washington Post propaganda. They're also the target with transgender mania, along with the young people.

The comments on this Eva Bartlett/Dilly Hussain debate were great and show that people aren't buying the Syrian propaganda either. It's another illusion of consent being manufactured by the damn news networks.

link: _https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JFEmCKHVME

My observation has been similar to Puck's from those I know on FB and see regularly in real life. Most of those being in their 30's and 40's. Seems the more well off liberals, those with decent paying stable work, are the ones buying into the propaganda. I don't know or have much contact with many millennials though.

 

[pete02]

So, just what kind of person is this sideshow aimed at? What kind of person has been taken in by it?

On my Facebook feed it seems mostly the wealthier, more educated liberal folks. They were the only ones posting Washington Post propaganda. They're also the target with transgender mania, along with the young people.

The comments on this Eva Bartlett/Dilly Hussain debate were great and show that people aren't buying the Syrian propaganda either. It's another illusion of consent being manufactured by the damn news networks.

link: _https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JFEmCKHVME

My observation has been similar to Puck's from those I know on FB and see regularly in real life. Most of those being in their 30's and 40's. Seems the more well off liberals, those with decent paying stable work, are the ones buying into the propaganda. I don't know or have much contact with many millennials though.

Let's not forget those who still believe that Dems are for the people and Reps are for the rich. My older bro being one of them seemed completely distraught that Trump got elected. Needless to say I was completely blown away by his reaction but I'm guessing there are more like him out there.

 

[tree]

I have been immersed in a community that buys this sideshow for a high price. Yes, 30's-50y.o, educated...not always well off however. But the overall ideology that I see is that of being guided purely by emotions and trusting the "good" that can be found in all people, including the political system. When I observe the news and see what is going on in the world, and try to see it for what it is, they consider it "focusing on the negative". I am not happy to have Trump as president since he will likely give a green-light to environmental destruction and protect toxic chemical-producing industries. However, I consider it better that Killary. Perhaps Trump will bring all the ugly home instead of spreading it all over the planet...and we'll have to face the havock we have traditionally forced on other peoples. I am waiting to see. At this point I can't imagine a true remedy for what my country has created except endgame and restart. Regarding everyone around me trying to convince me to sign petitions to support killary...I just keep silent and observe. No one wants to hear a differing opinion.

Tree

 

[Cosmos]

Trump isn't backing down on his stance on foreign policy. After he announced a couple of weeks ago, that the policy of regime change will end, he put more wood on the fire, in the “Thank You” tour stop in Orlando, on Friday 16.12.2016, by saying:

"Our foreign policy needs a new direction," Trump said at a Friday thank you rally in Orlando, Florida, stressing that "instead of rebuilding foreign nations it’s time to rebuild our own nation."

“For too long we’ve been moving from one reckless intervention to another in countries that most of you have never even heard of before.

“It’s crazy, and it’s going to stop.”

Sources here:

_http://floridapolitics.com/archives/229104-donald-trump-decries-reckless-interventions-vows-crush-isis
_https://sputniknews.com/us/201612171048680243-trump-foreign-policy-direction/

 

[Cosmos]

I look daily into what Trump is tweeting here: https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump

It is a quick and good way to stay on top on a number of issues regarding Trump and what is happening. It is also quite entertaining to see what Trump tweets at times.